Eyewitness News Congressional District 1 Debate


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CENTER THE FIRST TELEVISED
DEBATE BETWEEN DAVID CICILLINE
AND HIS CHALLENGER BRANDAN.
AND FOR THESE TWO CANDIDATES
HOPING TO EARN THEIR VOTE.
GOOD EVENING I'M TIM WHITE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF IMPORTANT
ISSUES TO TACKLE AS WE LEARN
ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN
TWO MEN LOOKING FOR YOUR VOTE.
AND OVER THE NEXT 90 MINUTES
WE'LL BE DOING JUST THAT GOING
IN DEPTH.
TONIGHT'S DEBATE IS AIRING LIVE
RIGHT NOW ON WPRI 12 AND THE
TELEVISED PORTION AND WPRI.COM.
THE TELEVISED PORTION ENDS AT
8 O'CLOCK BUT THE DEBATE WILL
CONTINUE ON WPRI.COM UNTIL 8:30
WHEN WE'LL INCLUDE SOME
QUESTIONS SUBMITTED BY YOU
EYEWITNESS NEWS VIEWERS.
I'LL BE MODERATING THIS DEBATE
AND ASKING QUESTIONS ALONG WITH
OUR PANEL WPRI.COM REPORTER TED
NESI AND THE PROVIDENCE JOURNAL
EDWARD ACHORN.
WE'LL BEGIN WITH OPENING REMARKS
FROM EACH OF OUR CANDIDATES AND
I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO HOLD
THEIR APPLAUSE UNTIL THE END OF
THE DEBATE SO EVERYONE HERE AT
THE PROVIDENCE REPORTING ARTS
CENTER AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE AT
HOME CAN HEAR WHAT THE
CANDIDATES HAVE TO SAY.
THE ORDER OF OPENING STATEMENTS
WAS DETERMINED BY A DRAWING.
WE BEGIN WITH DEMOCRAT DAVID
CICILLINE.
SERVED AS MAYOR OF PROVIDENCE
FOR EIGHT YEARS AND FOURTH TERM
STATE REPRESENTATIVE.
YOUR OPENING REMARKS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK
YOU FOR WPRI FOR HOSTING THIS
DEBATE AND THANK YOU MR. DOHERTY
FOR PARTICIPATING.
STAKES ARE HIGH IN THIS ELECTION
AND THIS IS REALLY ABOUT
PRIORITIES.
TONIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR
ABOUT THE PRIORITIES I'VE BEEN
FIGHTING FOR, THE THINGS I'VE
HEARD FROM SENIORS AND FROM
SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND
FAMILIES TRYING TO MAKE ENDS
MEET.
INVESTMENTS FROM EDUCATION FROM
HEADSTART TO PEL GRANTS AND
INVIGORATING AND HELPING SMALL
BUSINESS AND FIGHTING TO PROTECT
AND STRENGTHEN SOCIAL SECURITY
AND MEDICARE.
WE HAVE TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT
ADDRESSING THE NATIONAL DEBT BUT
DO IT IN A WAY THAT HONORS OUR
VALUES TO OUR COUNTRY AND A
BALANCED WAY SO EVERYONE PLAYS
BY THE SAME SET OF RULES AND
DOES THEIR FAIR SHARE AND HAS A
FAIR SHOT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO TONIGHT'S
DISCUSSION OF THESE IMPORTANT
ISSUES
THANK YOU MR. CICILLINE.
NOW WE GO TO REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATE BRANDAN DOHERTY.
HE'S THE COLONEL OF RHODE ISLAND
STATE POLICE AND HEADS THE
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
THIS IS HIS FIRST RUN FOR PUBLIC
OFFICE.
MR. DOHERTY YOUR OPENING REMARKS
THANK YOU VERY MUCH LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN.
I WANT TO THANK THE FOLKS FROM
CHANNEL 12 AND THE PROVIDENCE
JOURNAL AND OFFERING THIS
BEAUTIFUL VENUE AND WELCOME
CONGRESSMAN CICILLINE.
I BELIEVE WASHINGTON NEEDS A
STRONGER VOICE AND RHODE ISLAND
NEEDS A STRONGER VOICE TO GO TO
WASHINGTON.
CONGRESS IS BROKE EP.
THIS IS A GREATEST COUNTRY IN
THE WORLD BUT WASHINGTON IS
BROKEN.
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICAN
COULDN'T AGREE IT'S DARK OUT
RIGHT NOW.
I'M GOING TO WASHINGTON TO FIGHT
FOR JOBS AND GROW JOBS AND ALSO
CONGRESSMAN TO FIGHT FOR SOCIAL
SECURITY AND MEDICARE EVERY DAY.
I THANK YOU FOR AGREEING TO THIS
DEBATE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO IT
I WANT TO TELL YOU BOTH IT IS
AN HONOR TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO MODERATE THIS DEBATE.
THIS IS CLEARLY A VERY IMPORTANT
RACE.
AND AS YOU BOTH KNOW, THERE IS
NO STRICT FORMAT TO THIS DEBATE.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN OPEN AND
HONEST DEBATE FOR THE ISSUES.
IF "FEEL YOU'RE GOING TOO LONG
OR NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS
I'LL JUMP IN.
LET'S BEGIN.
WE'LL START WITH I THINK AN
OBVIOUS TOPIC RHODE ISLAND HAS
THE SECOND HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT
RATE IN THE NATION.
SO IT SHOULD COME AS NO SURPRISE
TO EITHER OF YOU THAT OUR
POLLING SHOWS THE BIGGEST ISSUE
IS JOBS.
LET'S START THERE.
MR. DOHERTY, TO YOU FIRST.
THE MOST SPECIFIC PROPOSAL IS
YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE
INFRASTRUCTURE JOBS FOR ENERGY
INDEPENDENCE ACT.
MAKE YOUR PITCH TO 60000
UNEMPLOYED RHODE ISLANDERS HOW
EXACTLY WOULD THAT HELP THEM
BACK TO WORK AND HOW SOON?
FIRST OF ALL THE
INFRASTRUCTURE THAT I EMBRACE
CREATES 1.2 MILLION JOBS PER
YEAR AND ALL ABOUT --
1.2 MILLION IN THE NATION OR
IN RHODE ISLAND?
IN THE NATION AND ALL ABOUT
CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE
CAN TAP INTO OUR NATURAL
RESOURCES AND CREATE JOBS
THROUGH THE OPPORTUNITIES AND
ALASKA AND IN THE CONTINENTAL
SHELF AND THE GULF OF MEXICO AND
CREATE JOBS THROUGH OUR ENERGY
INDEPENDENCE.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT
SINCE 1973 SINCE THE ARAB OIL
EMBAR
EMBARGO.
THERE ARE PLENTY OF
OPPORTUNITIES FOR RELEASE OF
FEDERAL LANDS SO THAT WE CAN
GLEAN REVENUE FROM THAT AND PUT
IT TOWARDS RENEWABLE ENERGY.
WE HAVE CRUMBLING BRIDGES AND
ROADS AND PUT PEOPLE BACK TO
WORK AND THE ROAD BUILDERS BACK.
IT WILL GO TO CLEAN WATER AND
RENEWABLE ENERGY AND THERE'S A
PIECE OF THAT THAT I WANT TO PUT
TOWARD OUR JOB SKILLS GAP.
HOW IS ALL OF THIS -- I HEARD
YOU TALK ABOUT ENERGY AND MIGHT
HELP OUT ALASKA A LOT, BUT I'M
SORT OF MISSING WHERE DOES IT
PLAY FOR RHODE ISLAND?
LET ME SPEAK TO THAT.
THE REVENUES WOULD BE PUT TOWARD
RENEWABLE ENERGY AND
INFRASTRUCTURE AND CLEAN COAL
AND FILL FULL OUR GAP.
I'D LIKE TO PUT IT TOWARDS 2 OR
1 YEAR DEGREE.
ALL MANUFACTURERS SAID THEY
COULD HIRE FIVE PEOPLE TOMORROW
IF WE COULD FILL THAT GAP
INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE
JOBS PLAN NOW AND DECIDED LOOK
BACK AT YOUR 2010 JOBS PLAN AND
WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION TWO YEARS
AGO ON THIS VERY STAGE.
IT'S EVIDENT TWO YEARS HAVE GONE
BY VERY FAST.
YOUR BIG IDEA WAS MAKE IT
AMERICA BLOCK GRANT AND IT'S
STILL AN IDEA.
THIS IS A FAILURE ON YOUR PART
TO GET RHODE ISLANDERS BACK TO
WORK OR IS THE REAL TRUTH THAT
AS MUCH CANDIDATES LIKE TO TALK
ABOUT IT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
THERE IS REALLY VERY LITTLE A
SINGLE CONGRESSMAN CAN DO TO
CREATE JOBS
I THINK THERE IS A LOT THAT
WE CAN DO CREATE JOBS AND IT'S
PART OF A LARGER PACKAGE OF
LEGISLATION THAT WE PUT FORTH
THAT WILL HELP TO REINVIGORATE
MANUFACTURING ALL ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
IT IS THE DNA OF OUR STATE AND
WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF
MANUFACTURING.
SOME THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND
WAGES ARE STARTING TO RISE IN
ASIA AND COST OF TRANSPORTING
GOODS IS QUITE HIGH.
HE CAN ACTUALLY REALLY GROW
MANUFACTURING.
WE NEED TO END THE TAX BREAKS
THAT COMPANIES GET AND PASS THE
CURRENCY MANIPULATION BILL THAT
PREVENT THE CHINESE FROM
CHEATING AND ARTIFICIALLY
DEPRESSING VALUE OF CURRENCY AND
PRODUCED GOODS THAT PUTS RHODE
ISLAND AND AMERICAN MANUFACTURES
AT DISADVANTAGE AND A PIECE OF
MAKING AMERICA AND THE
COMPETITIVE ACT HAS BEEN PASSED
BUT THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THERE
SHOULD BE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT
BUT THERE ISN'T.
THIS IS ONLY PART OF WHAT WE
NEED TO DO TO GET THIS ECONOMY
DOING.
WE NEED TO PROMOTE AND REBUILD
AMERICAN MANUFACTURING.
I WAS AT A MANUFACTURING TODAY
IN CENTRAL FALLS WHERE THIS IS A
MANUFACTURING COMPANY THAT IS
GROWING JOBS BUT WE NEED TO
CREATE INCENTIVES
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CONVINCE
THEM THIS IS A GREAT IDEA?
WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER ON
MANUFACTURING PARTICULARLY
BECAUSE I THINK THAT EXISTS IN
LOTS OF DISTRICTS AND MAKE SURE
SMALL BUSINESS HAS ACCESS TO
CAPITAL AND MAKE SURE THERE'S A
TRAINED WORK SOURCE FOR JOBS
AVAILABLE IN THE 21ST CENTURY
AND FUND RESEARCH AND INVASION
SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE THE
PLACE IN THE WORLD THAT NEW
TECHNOLOGIES CAN DEVELOP.
BUT THE MAKE IT MAKE IS
RECOGNIZING IF WE'RE GOING TO
REMAIN AN ECONOMIC POWER WE HAVE
MAKE THINGS IN THIS COUNTRY AND
EXPORT AMERICAN MADE GOODS AND
JOBS
THERE ISN'T MUCH BIPARTISAN
SUPPORT.
I'M WONDERING IF YOU HEARD
ANYTHING IF YOU WERE TO MAKE IT
TO CONGRESS WOULD YOU SUPPORT
SOMETHING LIKE THIS
YOU MENTIONED THE
INFRASTRUCTURE JOBS, THAT'S A
BIPARTISAN ETHIC AND THAT BRINGS
MONEY TO AMERICA.
THAT TAKES MONEY FROM THE GROUND
AND HELPS STIMULATE OUR ECONOMY.
THE CONGRESSMAN, ALL DUE RESPECT
HE WANTS TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF
PEOPLE'S POCKETS AND
REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH.
I'D LIKE TO FIRST RESPOND TO
THE ENERGY PLAN THAT MR. DOHERTY
TALKED ABOUT, HR 8-61.
IT HAS 20 SPONSORS AND SIX
DEMOCRATS AND IT'S FOR MORE
DRILLING.
THIS IS APPROACH THEY USED TO
TRY TO FUND THE TRANSPORTATION
BILL AND THE BUDGET OFFICE CAN'T
ANNOUNCE IT AND WHAT IT FINDS
OUT IS THAT IT WILL PRODUCE
ABOUT 2.4 BILL DOLLARS -- I'M
SORRY $4.3 BILLION OVER TEN
YEARS WHICH IS LESS THAN ONE .%
OF THE REVENUE THAT WAS NEEDED.
SO THEY'RE USING THE SAME MODEL.
EVEN OUT MORE LEASES AND A GIVE
BIG AWAY TO BIG OIL AND A BIG
GIVE A WAY WILL USE IT TO INVEST
IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHEN WE ALREADY KNOW ACCORDING
TO THE BEST DATA THERE ARE MORE
OIL RIGS IN THE UNITED STATES
THAN THE REST OF THE WORLDCOM
PWAOEUPBED AND THERE ARE
TWENTY-TWO MILLION LEASED ON
SHORE SITES THAT ARE NOT BEING
DRILLED.
SO THIS NOTION OF GIVING -- LET
ME FINISH.
IT ALSO DOES NOT INCLUDE A
REPEAL OF THE SUBSIDIES TO BIG
OIL.
THAT'S PART OF THE ANSWER, ENDS
THE $4 BILLION IN SUBSIDISUBSID
THE CHEESE IS SLIDING OFF THE
CRACKER HERE.
I'M GOING TO LET YOU RESPOND TO
EVERYTHING HE JUST SAID THERE.
BRIEFLY, IT'S JUST AGAIN
PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS WITH
THE AMERICAN BLOCK PARTY.
THIS IS A BIPARTISAN BILL.
THIS IS WHAT'S WRONG WITH
CONGRESS AND AMERICA RIGHT NOW.
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS CAN'T
SIT TOGETHER TO PUSH A BILL
FORWARD.
THIS IS A BIPARTISAN BILL AND AS
A MATTER OF FACT ONE OF
CONGRESSMAN CICILLINE'S FRIENDS,
CONGRESSMAN COSTA IS ON THE
GROUP AND HE SUPPORTS THIS BILL.
THIS BRINGS CLEAN COAL
TECHNOLOGY AND CLEAN WATER AND
WASTE WATER FOR OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE AND FOR YOUR
ROADS AND BRIDGES.
WHY NOT TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF
THE GROUND RATHER THAN TAX
BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESSES.
NUMBERS JUST DON'T ADD UP.
THIS IS A GIVE A WAY.
I HAVE A BILL THAT REPEALS THE
SUBSIDIES.
WHILE MR. DOHERTY MAY NOT LIKE
IT, I'M HAPPENTY TO SAY WHEN
WE'RE PICKING WINNERS AND
LOSING, AMERICAN MANUFACTURING
IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE
INVESTING IN.
WE'LL GO WITH ED ACHORN WITH
THE PROVIDENCE JOURNAL.
MR. CICILLINE, IN A PIECE
THAT YOUR 2010 JOHN SAID, HE
SAID HE SPOKE THE TRUTH ABOUT
THE PROVIDENCE TERRIBLE
PROBLEMS, BUT YOU HAD THE
ARROGANCE BRANDING ME A LIAR.
HE SAID THAT WAS HARD BECAUSE HE
SERVED IN THE MILITARY AND
PRIVATE LIFE AS A MAN OF HONOR.
SINCE YOUR SUCCESSOR ADMITTED
THE CITY WAS IN SERIOUS
FINANCIAL TROUBLE, DO YOU OWE
MR. HIM AN AANTHROPOLOGY
APOLOGY?
I EXPLAINED THAT I HAVE
REGRETS ABOUT THE WAY I TALKED
TO HIM AND I TALKED A LOT ABOUT
THAT.
AND DURING THE COURSE OF THE
CAMPAIGN THERE WERE EFFORTS MADE
THAT THINGS WERE JUST DELIVERED
TO TALK SHOW RADIO HOSTS BEFORE
THEY WERE DELIVERED TO THE CITY
THAT I THINK ADDED TO THE PHR T
POLITICALNESS OF THE ISSUE.
IT TURNED OUT NOT TO BE ACCURATE
AND HE SAID ABOUT THE CITY
RUNNING OUT OF MONEY WHICH IS
NOT ACCURATE.
I HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED TO TIM AND
OTHERS AND I TALKED A LOT ABOUT
THIS REGRETTING THE WAY I TALKED
ABOUT IT.
BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT
OF CONVERSATION ABOUT PROVIDENCE
IN THIS CAMPAIGN AND THE TRUTH
IS WHEN I'M OUT TRAVELING
AROUND, WE HAVE 60000 RHODE
ISLANDERS OUT OF WORK AND ALMOST
50000 RHODE ISLAND FAMILIES
MORTGAGES UNDERWATER AND SENIORS
ARE WONDERING WHETHER MEDICARE
WILL SURVIVE.
I'VE ACKNOWLEDGEED AND EXPRESSED
REGRET ABOUT THE WAY I TALKED
ABOUT PROVIDENCE AND I TALKED
ABOUT IT.
DO YOU OWE HIM AN APOLOGY?
I DON'T THINK SO.
IN THAT CAMPAIGN THERE WERE LOTS
OF ARGUMENTS MADE.
MR. DOHERTY, YOU'VE BEEN
RUNNING IS A BLASTING MR.
CICILLINE THAT HE LEFT
PROVIDENCE IN EXCELLENT SHAPE.
VOTERS HAVE GIVEN MR. CICILLINE
THE LEAD.
IS IT TIME TO MOVE ON TO OTHER
BUSINESS
NO I DON'T THINK IT'S TIME.
I'D LIKE TO GO TO THE OTHER
QUESTION FOR 1 SECOND BECAUSE I
HAPPENED TO SPOT THAT
REPRESENTATIVE LIEUTENANT IS
HERE WITH US AND I APPRECIATE
THE GOOD WORK HE DID FOR OUR
COUNTRY.
THE TIME IS NOT GO PAST THIS.
IT'S NOT OVER FOR THE FIREMAN
AND THE POLICEMAN AND THE
TEACHERS OF THE CITY OF
PROVIDENCE.
THIS GOES BACK TO THE DECEPTION
OF CONGRESSMAN CICILLINE BACK IN
OCTOBER OF 2010.
IT REMINDS ME OF THE OLD SAYING,
WHAT A WICKED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN
WE SET OUT TO DECEIVE.
HE WAS THE CAPTAIN OF THAT SHIP
AND HE SALEED IT INTO A
CATEGORY 5 CURTAIN.
JUST AS IT GOT INTO THE
HURRICANE HE JUMPED OFF AND WENT
TO WASHINGTON.
HE DIDN'T PUT ANY CHAINS ON ANY
DOORS.
HE JUST PREVENTED THE AUDITORS
FROM DOING THEIR JOB.
SO IN AN INTERVIEW DURING THAT
CAMPAIGN WITH REPRESENTATIVE
LAUGHLIN, HE DESCRIBED THE CITY
AS BEING IN EXCELLENT CONDITION
AND LATER, HE SHOULDN'T HAVE
USED THE WORD THREATENED, SO
BEYOND HOW THOSE GO TOGETHER.
THIS IS LIKE A HUSBAND AND WIFE
THAT HAVE A JOINT ACCOUNT AND
THE WIFE ASKS WHY CAN'T I GET TO
THE CHECKBOOK AND HE SAYS WELL
DON'T WORRY ABOUT, EVERYTHING'S
IN EXCELLENT CONDITION AND THEN
A FEW MONTHS LATER, PEOPLE ARE
KNOCKING ON THE DOOR TO
REPOSSESS THE CAR AND THE HOUSE
IS GOING INTO FORE CLOSER AND HE
SAYS I'M A GLASS FULL TYPE OF
GUY
YOU HAD ABOUT THREE ANALOGIES
ABOUT THAT.
I'D LIKE TO REMIND THE CROWD TO
KEEP IT DOWN
IN YOUR RESPONSE TO YOUR
QUESTION, IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON.
MR. DOHERTY UNDERSTANDS IF HE
TALKS ABOUT WHAT HE WOULD DO IF
HE GOT TO WASHINGTON, RHODE
ISLAND VOTERS WON'T VOTE FOR
HIM.
HE SPENT MOST OF HIS CAMPAIGN
AND TONIGHT DO DOING EVERY HE
CAN TO DISTRACT VOTERS THE FACT
THAT HE OPPOSES THE BUFFETT RULE
AND HE SUPPORTS THE HOUSE
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AND
SUPPORTS THEM BEING IN THE
MAJORITY AND MITT ROMNEY AND
SUPPORTS REPEAL OF HEALTH CARE
AND WANTS TO START THAT PROCESS
ALL OVER AGAIN.
HE'S ANTI-CHOICE.
HE SUPPORTS EXTENDING THE BUSH
TAX CUTS.
AND SO, HIS ELECTION WOULD MEAN
WE PUT IN PLACE THE HOUSE
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP AND
EXTREME AGENDA WHICH IS BAD FOR
RHODE ISLAND AND OUR COUNTRY.
AND HE WILL SPEND MOST OF HIS
TIME TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING
BUT.
WE'LL BE TACKLING THAT
TONIGHT.
FINAL WORD ON THIS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, IF THE
CONGRESSMAN HAD A LONG RECORD IN
WASHINGTON I SUPPOSE WE COULD
TALK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES BUT HE'S
0-10 FOR THE BILLS AND STILL
HASN'T APOLOGIZED FOR BEING
INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST TO THE
CITY OF PROVIDENCE.
DIDN'T ADMIT HE LIED TO GET TO
WASHINGTON.
IF HE DOES THAT TONIGHT I'LL
MOVE ON AND NEVER TALK ABOUT IT
THE REST OF MY LIFE.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
QUESTION.
TED NESI FROM WPRI.COM.
MR. DOHERTY YOU OFTEN SAY AS
ALTHOUGH YOU'RE RUNNING AS A RAP
CAN AND YOU DON'T SHARE THE
VIEWS OF MITT ROMNEY AND VICE
PRESIDENT AL CANDIDATE PAUL RYAN
WHERE DO YOU AGREE WITH MITT
ROMNEY AND DISAGREE
HE TALKS ABOUT BRINGING THE
CORPORATE TAX RATE DOWN.
THAT'S A BIPARTISAN ISSUE
BECAUSE BILL CLINTON HAS TALKED
ABOUT AND NOW PRESIDENT OBAMA
HAS
I NEVER VOTE TO PRIVATIZE SOCIAL
SECURITY OR MEDICARE.
I HAVE SAID THAT OVER AND OVER
AGAIN.
I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT I
WOULD NEVER VOTE TO PRIVATIZE
SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICARE.
MR. CICILLINE, YOU SPENT MOST
OF THIS CAMPAIGN CRITICIZING
NATIONAL REPUBLICANS AND
DOHERTIES ONE OF THEM.
WE KNOW WHERE YOU DISAGREE WITH
MITT ROMNEY.
DID YOU NAME ANY ISSUE WHERE YOU
AGREE WITH MR. ROMNEY?
I THINK THAT PRESIDENT HAS
SAID THE SAME THING THAT MITT
ROMNEY HAS SAID, WE NEED TO MAKE
THE CORPORATE TAX MORE
COMPETITIVE.
I THINK IT HAS TO BE PART OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE TAX REFORM
THAT'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN
THE BOTH OF YOU
DO YOU WANT TO TELL YOU WHERE
I DISAGREE WITH MITT ROMNEY?
WE ONLY HAVE 90-MINUTES
NEXT QUESTION HERE.
OVER A MONTH AGO AMBASSADOR
CHRIS STEVENS AND THREE OTHERS
WERE KILLED ON AN ATTACK IN
LIBYA.
OBAMA ORIGINALLY SAID THIS WAS A
PROTEST GONE BAD BUT MORE
INFORMATION WAS ACTUALLY
ORGANIZED ASSAULT ON AN U.S.
INTEREST ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF
9/11.
YOU'RE A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE
FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, WHY
CAN'T HAVEN'T YOU CALLED A
HEARING ON THIS?
THERE IS A REVIEW ON THE WAY
BY THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE.
I THINK WE TO BEGIN BY
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE LOSS OF
FOUR AMERICANS IS SOMETHING WE
SHOULD ALL MOURN.
THESE ARE EXTRAORDINARY PUBLIC
SERVANTS AND THOSE THIS THE
FOREIGN SERVICE THAT REPRESENT
OUR COUNTRY AND VERY DANGEROUS
PLACES SO WE SHOULD NEVER LOSE
SIGHT OF THE SACRIFICES THAT
WERE MADE. THE DEPARTMENT OF
STATE HAS INDICATED THEY INTEND
AND REVIEW OF THIS IS UNDERWAY.
WE SHOULD AWAIT THE OUTCOME OF
THIS REVIEW AND THERE WILL BE
HEARINGS BOTH IN THE HOUSE AND
SENATE.
I'M QUITE CERTAIN OF THAT
DO YOU FEEL THE WHITE HOUSE
HAS BEEN LESS THAN TRANSPARENT
ON THIS ISSUE
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY
EVIDENCE THEY'VE BEEN LESS THAN
TRANSPARENTS.
WHAT HAS BEEN REVEALED SOME OF
THE EARLY INTELLIGENCE
INFORMATION WAS CHANGED AND
RECEIVED NEW INFORMATION THAT
CHANGED THE BELIEF OF THE
INTELLIGENCE AUTHORITIES.
I THINK THE REVIEW WILL
DETERMINE WHERE THE INTELLIGENCE
FAILING OCCURRED AND I THINK WE
SHOULD AWAIT -- THIS IS A VERY
SERIOUS MATTER.
WE SHOULD AWAIT THE FULL REVIEW
THAT'S UNDERWAY.
SHOULD WE WAIT OR HOLD PUBLIC
HEARINGS AS SOME ARE CALLING FOR
IN CONGRESS?
I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD PUBLIC
HEARINGS BUT OBVIOUSLY WE NEED
TO KEEP CLOSE TO THE VEST THAT
INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE OF
NATIONAL SECURITY.
SO, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION WASN'T MORE
TRANSPARENT, BUT IN THE
POLITICAL SAOEUR
POLITICAL CYCLE WE NEED TO BE
CAREFUL WHEN TALKING ABOUT
ISSUES LIKE THIS, INTERNATIONAL
ISSUES LIKE THIS, BECAUSE WE
HAVE THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE
WORLD AND WE NEED TO SECURE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND
SOMETIMES THE POLITICAL RHETORIC
GETS CARRIED AWAY
YOU SAID WE SHOULD HOLD
PUBLIC HEARINGS BUT THINGS CLOSE
TO OUR VEST.
YOU MEAN CLASSIFIED INFORMATION?
EXACTLY.
HOW EFFECTIVE WOULD A PUBLIC
HEARING BE IF YOU HAVE TO WITH
HOLD INFORMATION THAT COULD BE
VITAL?
I BELIEVE IN THE TRANSPARENCY
OF THOSE HEARINGS BUT THERE MAY
BE INFORMATION THAT MAY NOT BE
RELEASED BECAUSE IT MAY BE
IMPORTANT TO THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMUNITY AND THE SAFETY OF THE
AMERICANS ABROAD.
THAT WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK AND
WE NEED STRONG IN OUR CONVICTION
IN OUR WE HANDLE THAT.
BUT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH
A HEARING
MR. ACHORN.
CHANNEL 12 SURVEY LAST MONTH,
MR. DOHERTY, VOTERS BY A
THAT IS ONE REASON THAT POLL
TEURBS SAID THEY WILL NOT TRUST
THESE PROGRAMS.
DON'T SOCIAL SECURITY AND
MEDICARE HAVE TO BE REFORMED TO
BE SAVED?
ABSOLUTELY.
YOU KNOW, I'VE ESPOUZED
THE PLAN ABOUT A GRADUAL
INCREASE, NOT FOR THE SENIORS
COLLECTING NOW.
OUR SENIORS SHOULD BE SAFE BUT A
GRADUAL INCREASE DOWN THE ROAD
OF SOMEBODY DOWN THE ROAD OF
SOMEBODY WHO IS 50 YEARS OLD
TODAY HAVE TO WAIT A COUPLE OF
MONTHS BEFORE THEY RECEIVE THE
BENEFIT BECAUSE WE KNOW THE
SOCIAL TRUST FUND ANNUAL REPORT
HAS STATED IF WE DO NOTHING, IT
WILL BE ALL OVER IN 20033.
THERE WILL BE NO MONEY LEFT FOR
SOCIAL SECURITY.
WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN SOCIAL
SECURITY NOW AND THERE ARE WAYS
WE CAN DO IT.
AGAIN, I TALK A LOT ABOUT
SIMPSON BOWLS.
I SAT WITH ALLEN SIMPSON
YESTERDAY IN NEW YORK AND TALKED
ABOUT THIS AND HIS IDEAS AND I
WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO
TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES WITH HIM
ABOUT RAISING THE WAGE CAP AND I
BELIEVE THE CONGRESSMAN HAS
TALKED ABOUT THAT SAME IDEA.
BUT THAT ALONE WON'T DO IT.
WE NEED TO TACKLE IT WITHIN A
REASONABLE MANNER AND OUR
SENIORS ON SOCIAL SECURITY NOW
ARE SAFE AND THEY PLAYED BY ALL
THE RULES.
I THINK WITH ALL DUE RESPECT
YOUR QUESTION PRESENTS A FALSE
CHOICE.
WE HAVE TO PROTECT MEDICARE AND
SOCIAL SECURITY AND DEAL WITH
THE DEFICIT AND WE CAN DO BOTH.
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE
REFLECT OUR VALUES AS COUNTRY.
WHEN YOU REACH A CERTAIN AGE AND
WORKED A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS
YOU'RE GUARANTEED INCOME.
WITH MEDICARE WHEN YOU REACH A
CERTAIN AGE YOU'RE GUARANTEED
ACCESS.
THE WAY WE DRIVE DOWN THE COST
OF MEDICARE IS NOT BY INCREASING
THE ELIGIBILITY AGE, WHAT WE DO
INSTEAD IS BENDS THE COST CURVE
BY INVESTING IN WELLNESS AND
PREVENTION AND NEW TREATMENTS.
THOSE WILL PRODUCE LONG TERM
SAVINGS.
WITH RESPECT TO SOCIAL SECURITY
IT USED TO BE A ONE LEG OF A
THREE LEGGED STOOL.
IT'S NOT THE CASE ANYMORE.
MORE AND MORE RHODE ISLANDERS
HAVE SEEN THEIR PENSION AND
SAVINGS EVAPORATE AND RELYING ON
SOCIAL SECURITY.
IT'S JUST ABOVE POVERTY LEVEL.
WHAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW
DO WE INCREASE BENEFITS SO IT
PROVIDES A REAL WAY FOR SENIORS
TO LIVE WITH SECURITY AND
DIGNITY.
SIMPSON BOWLS RAISES RETIREMENT
AGE AND CUTS BENEFITS.
I WAS A MANUFACTURING PLACE
WHERE FOLKS ARE WORKING WITH
RESIN.
WHEN THOSE FOLKS ARE DONE,
THEY'RE DONE.
THERE'S AN EASY TO FIX SOCIAL
SECURITY.
IT'S NOT ADDED $1 TO THE
DEFICIT.
ANYTHING IN THERE THAT YOU
HEARD THAT YOU LIKE.
?
YES.
THERE'S A HEARDSHIP CLAUSE I
THINK THE CONGRESSMAN IS
REFERRING TO IN SIMPSON BOWLS
FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING
IN DANGEROUS CONDITIONS.
ALSO IN SIMPSON BOWLS AFTER TWO
YEARS OF THE BENEFIT, SO SOMEONE
AROUND 85 YEARS OLD THEY GET
ANOTHER BUMP.
I KNOW QUITE A BIT ABOUT THE
DIFFICULTIES THE SENIORS HAVE,
EVEN IN THIS POLITICAL SEASON
RECEIVING LETTERS AND
CORRESPONDENCE REGARDING SOCIAL
SECURITY.
THEY'RE AFRAID OF IT AND THEY
GET THE SCARE TACTICS.
MY MOM IS 85 YEARS OLD AND SHE
RELIES ON IT AND WE NEED TO
STRENGTHEN IT
MR. CICILLINE, I WANT YOU TO
RESPOND IT.
HE POINTED OUT YOU'RE SENDING
OUT MAILERS SAYING THAT GUY IN
SHORT WILL TAKE AWAY YOUR
MEDICARE.
IF HE'S SAYING THAT'S NOT TRUE,
WHY ARE YOU SPENDING MONEY ON
IT?
THIS IS SIMPLE.
THE SOCIAL SECURITY/MEDICARE ARE
PROGRAMS I BELIEVE IN VERY
STRONGLY.
MR. DOHERTY THINKS RAISING THE
SOCIAL SECURITY AGE IS
APPROPRIATE AND I DISAGREE AND
VOTERS HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW
THAT'S HIS POSITION.
PAUL RYAN IS THEIR NOMINEE FOR
THE VICE PRESIDENTALDOM
NOMINEE.
HE'LL EMPOWER TO MAKE THAT A
REALI
REALITY. THE FACT HE MIGHT VOTE
ON IT LATER THEY DON'T NEED HIM
AT THAT.
WHEN YOU CONTROL CONGRESS YOU
SET THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT TWO
YEARS.
YOU DECIDE WHAT BILLS ARE HEARD
AND WHAT HEARINGS ARE HELD AND
MR. DOHERTY, RESPOND TO THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND VOTE THE
PARTY LINE ON THESE ISSUES?
THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.
I DIDN'T SAY HE WOULD VOTE THE
PARTY LINE.
I SAID ONCE HE VOTES TO INSTALL
THE REPUBLICAN LEADERS THEY CAN
CONTINUE TO OPPOSE THE BUFFETT
RULE.
WE GET IT.
MR. DOHERTY.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS ALL
ALONG THROUGHOUT THIS CAMPAIGN
THAT I'M MY OWN MAN AND I'LL GO
TO WASHINGTON TO REACH ACROSS
THE TABLE AND BRING AMERICA
FORWARD. THAT'S WHAT IS WRONG
WITH CONGRESS RIGHT NOW.
CONGRESS IS BROKEN.
CONGRESS AND CICILLINE HASN'T
WORKED CLOSELY WITH REPUBLICANS
AND HE HASN'T.
HE'S VOTED 96% OF THE TIME WITH
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THAT ISN'T WORKING RIGHT NOW.
SO, YES, I WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO
HAS A STRONG VOICE.
I UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE
DIFFICULT SITUATIONS IN
WASHINGTON WHERE I MIGHT NOT BE
IN STEP WITH MY OWN PARTY.
MY FRIENDS SCOTT BROWN OF
MASSACHUSETTS HE HAS MADE THAT
DECISION.
HE VOTES ABOUT 66% WITH HIS OWN
PARTY.
WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO
BRING AMERICA FORWARD.
REPUBLICANS COME UP WITH GOOD
IDEAS AND SO DO DEMOCRATS AND
THEY NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO
FIGHT THE GRIDLOCK.
THANK YOU MR. DOHERTY.
MR. CICILLINE.
YOU MENTIONED THE THREE LEGGED
STOOL.
DO YOU SUPPORT THE MENTION LAW?
I THINK THE PENSION REFORM IS
BEST DONE IN THE CONTEXT OF
NEGOTIATIONS AND THAT'S DONE AT
THE LOCAL LEVELS.
THE STATE STATUTES ARE -- THE
STATE PENSIONS ARE SET BY
STATUTE.
EVERYONE RECOGNIZES THAT --
JUST BRIEFLY DO YOU SUPPORT
THE LAW?
AGAIN,
BECAUSE THAT'S PARTS OF YOUR
THREE LEGGED LAW.
I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE
PUBLIC EMPLOYEES WHO GET GOOD
WAGES AND GOOD SECURITY.
WE HAVE TO HONOR THOSE
COMMITMENTS AND PROMISES
THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU APPOSE
IT
TO BE HONEST I DON'T KNOW
EVERY SINGLE DETAIL OF IT BUT I
APPLAUD THE LEADER WHO I THINK
ENGAGED IN IT IN GOOD FAITH.
I THINK MOST EMPLOYEES KNOW THAT
THAT THEY WANTED TO BE CERTAIN
THAT PENSION WILL BE THERE.
I THINK THE CIRCUMSTANCES
REQUIRE IT
MR. DOHERTY ON THE PENSION
LAW, DO YOU SUPPORT THE PENSION
LAW THAT PASSED LAST FALL?
I BELIEVE WE NEED A PENSION
REFORM.
MOST RETIREES UNDERSTOOD WE NEED
IT BUT I WISH IT WAS DONE MORE
FAIRER AND EQUITABLE.
I KNOW THE FELLLOW WHO WAS
INJURED ON THE JOB AND HIS
PENSION -- HE HAS A SERIOUS
INJURY AND HIS PENSION WAS CUT
SUBSTANTIALLY.
SO IT'S NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL
AND I WISH THEY WOULD PUT A
LITTLE MORE EFFORT INTO T I'LL
GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE --
WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
THANK YOU.
I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT BUDGET
PLANS WHICH YOU'VE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT.
MR. CICILLINE, IN 2011 YOU VOTED
FOR THE MOST LIBERAL BUDGET PUT
FORWARD.
70% TAX INCREASES AND ONLY 30%
SPENDING CUTS.
FORMER PRESIDENT CLINTON
CRITICIZED THAT AND PELOSI AND
YOUR CONGRESSMAN VOTED AGAINST
IT.
WHY DID YOU THINK IT WAS RIGHT
FOR THE COUNTRY?
IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
PROGRESSIVE BUDGET IT
STRENGTHENED SOCIAL SECURITY AND
ELIMINATES THE DEFICIT IN
11 YEARS AND RESTORES AMERICAN
COMPETITIVE BY INVESTING IN
CLEAN ENERGY AND EDUCATION AND
ENDS THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN AND
REALLY REFLECTS VALUES OF RHODE
ISLAND.
PRESIDENT CLINTON--
HE SAID THERE ARE OBVIOUS
OBJECTIONS AND WARNED IT COULD
CAUSE MAJOR COMPANIES TO MOVE
OVER SEAS AND WOULDN'T FIX
SOCIAL SECURITY OR MEDICARE?
WHAT HE SAID IS THAT THIS
BUDGET DOES TWO THINGS.
IT DOES TWO THINGS FAR BETTER
THAN THE ANTI-BUDGET PASSED BY
THE HOUSE T TAKES CARE OF OLDER
AMERICANS AND OTHERS WHO NEED
HELP AND MUCH MORE THAN THE
HOUSE PLAN OR SIMPSON BOWLS IF
INVESTS A LOT OF OUR TAX MONEY
TO GET AMERICA BACK IN THE
FUTURE BUSINESS
WHY DID YOU VOTE AGAINST IT?
BECAUSE IF INCLUDED A MIDDLE
CLASS TAX INCREASE BUT I THINK
THE PRESIDENT WAS VERY CLEAR,
PRESIDENT CLINTON, THAT IT
INVEST IN THE FUTURE BUSINESS
BECAUSE IT INVESTED IN
EDUCATION, INFRASTRUCTURE AND
INVASION AND RESPONSIBLY DEALS
WITH THE DEBT AND STRENGTHENS
SOCIAL SECURITY.
MR. DOHERTY, YOU WERE
ENDORSED BY THE SIMPSON BOWLS
COMMISSION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EXPRESSING
SUPPORT.
BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN MUCH
DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DETAILS.
THEY WOULD HIKE GAS TAX BY $0.15
A GALLON.
DO YOU SUPPORT THAT?
YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT IT
MAKES IT FAIRER AND CREATES A
FLATTER AND FAIRER TAX AND
BRINGS THE CORPORATE TAX RATE
DOWN AND INDIVIDUAL TAX IS 28
AND 22 AND 12% AND CUTS THE
LOOPHOLES SO WHAT THE
CONGRESSMAN DESCRIBES IS THE
MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES
THEY DON'T GET TO APPRECIATE
THOSE LOOPHOLES ANYMORE.
IT'S LIKE A MAZE WHEN SOMEONE'S
WALK INTO A MAZE AND THEY'RE
WALKING INTO MIRRORS AND WALLS
BUT NOT THE ULTRAHEALTHY
BUT YOU WON'T GET TO
CHOOSE --
THEY GET A MAP TO THE MAZE
AND ELIMINATES THAT
AS SIM BONN BOWLS AS
PRESENTED, WOULD YOU VOTE YES OR
NO?
SIMPSON SAID THESE ARE
TALKING POINTS AND THERE ARE
GOOD IDEAS AND PRESIDENT OBAMA
APPRECIATED THOSE IDEAS.
WOULD I VOTE FOR IT RIGHT NOW,
I'D NEED TO TAKE A MEASURE DZ
APPROACH.
WE KNOW HOW YOU VOTED ON IT.
WHY WERE YOU AGAINST IT?
IT WAS A VOTE THAT HAD DEEPER
CUT.
SIMPSON BOWLS PRESENTS A WHOLE
SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND
LEAVES IT TO CONGRESS TO MAKE
CHOICES.
IT MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT
CLOSING -- LOOPHOLES OR ENDING
SUBSIDIES BUT DOESN'T CALL OUT
THE OIL SUBSIDIES.
THERE ARE GOOD THINGS ABOUT
SIMPSON BOWLS AND PUTS REVENUES
ON THE TABLE.
FOR THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD A
DISCUSSION FOR THE LAST
22 MONTHS AND ALMOST OVER A
TRILLION DOLLARS ALREADY WHICH
IS ABOUT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 40 AND
70% OF WHAT SIMPSON BOWLS
REQUIRES IN TERMS OF CUTTING
SPENDING.
WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING ON THE
REVENUE SIDE. THE PROBLEM HAS
BEEN THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE
LEADERSHIP HAS REFUSED TO HAVE
REVENUES ON THE TABLE.
98% OF THEM TOOK THE GROVER
QUESTS.
IT PUTS REVENUES ON THE TABLE
AND SAYS DO IT IN BALANCED WAY.
THEY ALL INCLUDE REVENUES
ON THE SIMPSON BOWLS PLAN IN
THE ASPECT OF CUTTING GOVERNMENT
THAT YOU ACTUALLY LIKE?
WE KNOW YOU LIKE THE REVENUE
BUILDING SIDE?
LOOK, WE ALREADY VOTED FOR
OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS OF
SPENDING CUTS ALREADY.
SO THAT AMOUNTS TO ABOUT 50, 60%
OF WHAT IS REQUIRED SIMPSON
BOWLS.
WE HAVE MORE TO DO, BUT WE'VE
DONE NOTHING ON THE REVENUE SIDE
BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE
LEADERSHIP HAS REFUSED TO CLOSE
THE LOOP HOLE AND END THE
SUBSIDY TO OIL AND AGRICULTURE
BECAUSE THEY TOOK A PLEDGE.
THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.
WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT
BIPARTISANSHIP PART OF IT IS
FINDING PEOPLE TO FIND THE
COMMON GROUND.
THEY TOOK AN OATH TO ALLOW THIS.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE FINAL WORD
IN THIS SECTION BEFORE WE MOVE
ON TO THE NEXT QUESTION
I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE
PROGRESSIVE BUDGET IF I CAN.
WHAT WE CALL THE OPPRESSIVE
BUDGET.
77 DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR IT AND
108 DEMOCRATS VOTED AGAINST IT.
SO, THE CONGRESSMAN TALKS ABOUT
DIE PARTISANSHIP, HE CAN NEVER
COME OVER TO THE CENTER.
HE'S NOT YOUR FATHER'S DEMOCRAT
AND NOT YOUR GRANDFATHER'S
DEMOCRAT AND NOT A JOHN F.
KENNEDY DEMOCRAT.
HE'S SO FAR TO THE LEFT.
THIS ADDS TAX RATES OF 46, 47,
48, 49% AND KILL SMALL BUSINESSS
AND WE HAVE 93000 SMALL
BUSINESSES HERE IN RHODE ISLAND
AND REDUCES THE U.S. NAVY.
I DON'T WANTS TO SPEND A LOT
OF TIME ON A BUDGET THAT DIDN'T
PASS.
BUT 30 SECONDS
I WANTS TO BE CLEAR THIS
BUDGET MAKES THINGS THAT ARE
REALLY IMPORTANT TO RHODE ISLAND
AND IMPORTANT TO OUR COUNTRY.
THE WASHINGTON POST SAID THE
CONGRESSIONAL PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS
PLAN WINS.
THE GUARDIAN SAYS IT WOULD
BALANCE THE BOOKS BY 2021.
THE ECONOMIST CALLED IT
COURAGEOUS.
IT MAKES INVESTMENTS AND THE
THINGS FOR NECESSARY TO COMPETE
AND ENDS THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN
AND STRENGTHENS MEDICARE.
AND PRESIDENT CLINTON THIS IS
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE
ALTERNATIVE.
YOU CAN ASSIGN LABELS ALL YOU
WANT.
WHAT I'M FIGHTING FOR IS WHAT I
KNOW IS IMPORTANT TO RHODE
ISLAND FAMILIES.
THIS IS ENOUGH ON THIS
SECTION.
LET'S MOVE ON.
THIS IS ONE OF THE TOP
DO YOU STANDS BY THE LANGUAGE?
IT WAS VERY SIMPLE.
I WOULD HAVE NEVER USED THAT
LANGUAGE.
SOME OF THAT WAS FROM THE
NATIONAL REPUBLICAN -- I NEVER
HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM
ABOUT THAT.
THEY FOLLOWED UP IN THEIR OWN
RESPECT.
ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE
CONGRESSMAN HE WAS A CRIMINAL
DEFENSE ATTORNEY.
WE WOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THIS
ATTORNEY IF NOT FOR HIS SUR
GATES TAKING SHOTS AT ME SAYING
I'M WEAK ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
I FOUGHT FOR WOMEN MY WHOLE
CAREER.
WHILE I WAS ADVOCATING THE
CONGRESSMAN WAS REPRESENTING
SOME OF THE WORST OF RHODE
ISLAND
YOU BASICALLY SAID YOU
STARTED IT.
YOU WORKED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT
FOR THREE DECADES AND FEW PEOPLE
KNOW THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM BETTER
THAN PARTICULARLY A FORMER
SUPERINTENDENT OF THE RHODE
ISLAND STATE POLICE.
PEOPLE ACCUSED OF A CRIME DON'T
THEY DESERVE TO BE REPRESENTED
IN COURT?
ABSOLUTELY.
THEY ABSOLUTELY DO BUT WE ALL
HAVE CHOICES TO MAKE AND THE --
LOOK IT, I HAVE MANY FRIENDS WHO
ARE CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEYS.
I UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE A
DIFFICULT JOB AND EVERYONE
SHOULD HAVE FAIR REPRESENTATION
WITH COURT, BUT CONGRESSMAN
CICILLINE MADE THE DECISION TO
BRING THIS UP.
HE MADE A DECISION TO REPRESENT
THOSE PEOPLE AND THEN HE MADE A
DECISION TO RUN FOR CONGRESS AND
THEN TAKE A SHOT AT ME FOR NOT
BEING STRONG ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS
MR. CICILLINE, THE FIRST PART
OF THAT, HOW ABOUT THAT THOUGH?
ISN'T HE RIGHT, NO ONE ACTUALLY
FORCES YOU TO TAKE ON A CLIENT
AS A DEFENSE ATTORNEY?
LET'S BE CLEAR, THIS IS A
COORDINATED STRATEGY AND NOT A
COINCIDENCE.
MR. TKORT I DID HAD A PRESS
CONFERENCE IN FRONT OF A BOXING
RING TO TALK ABOUT DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE AND LIST DZ CLIENTS I
REPRESENTED AND MADE THE CLIMB I
WAS A CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER
AND X, Y AND Z.
RIGHT AFTER THE NATIONAL
REPUBLICAN PARTY DID THE SAME
THING. THIS IS A COORDINATED
STRATEGY AND FOR ONE SIMPLE
REASON.
MR. DOHERTY HOPES THAT VOTERS
WILL NEVER PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT
HE WOULD ACTUAL DO I IF HE GOT
TO WASHINGTON AND SO THIS IS
ANOTHER --
ANSWER MY QUESTION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION.
AND THIS CAME ABOUT AS A RESULT
OF A POSITION THAT MR. DOHERTY
TOOK.
THE SENATE PASSED THE VIOLENCE
AGAINST WOMEN ACT.
MR. DOHERTY TALKS ABOUT A
BIPARTISANSHIP
YOU'RE STILL NOT ANSWERING
WE'LL BE HERE ALL NIGHT.
OF COURSE I CHOSE TO BE A
LAWYER.
NOBODY FORCED ME TO BE A LAWYER.
WHEN YOU'RE A LAWYER YOU DON'T
CHOOSE YOUR CLIENTS.
YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND
YOU TAKE AN OATH TO DO YOUR JOB.
YOU DON'T GO OUT AND PICK
CLIENTS.
LET ME FINISH MY POINT.
THE SENATE PASSED VIOLENCE
AGAINST WOMEN ACT.
EVERY SINGLE WOMAN SENATOR VOTED
FOR IT.
IT GETS SENT TO THE HOUSE THE
HOUSE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP
REFUSES TO TAKE THE BILL UP AND
MR. DOHERTY SAYS HE THINKS
THEY'RE RIGHT.
IF YOU WANT TO SERVE ALL THOSE
OTHER WALKS OF LIFE AS HE CALLS
THEM, DO ANOTHER BILL.
THIS IS NOT MY WORDS.
THIS IS THE WORDS OF THE
NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR WOMEN.
TERRY O'NEILL THE PRESIDENT SAID
WE SIMPLY CAN'T TRUST BRENDAN
DOHERTY TO PUT THE INTEREST OF
WOMEN AHEAD OF HIS REPUBLICAN
PARTY LEADERSHIP.
THOSE ARE HER WORDS
PLEASE RESPOND, MR. DOHERTY.
OKAY. YOU KNOW, THE
CONGRESSMAN REFERRING TO PEOPLE
IN WASHINGTON THAT I DON'T EVEN
KNOW AND HE'S ALSO STATED
THAT -- WHAT DID YOU SAY?
HOUSE REPUBLICANS WERE AGAINST
IT?
I SAID EVERY SINGLE WOMAN
SENATOR VOTED IT
I HAPPEN TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT ALL OF THEM PUT
TOGETHER BECAUSE AS A
COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC SAFETY I
WORE TWO HATS AND ONE OF THOSE
AGENCIES THAT CAME UNDER ME WAS
THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATION OFFICE
AND I MADE SURE IT WAS RUN
EFFICIENTLY AND I MADE SURE THEY
APPLIED FOR THE GRANTS AND THEY
WERE PROPERLY DISSEMINATED.
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT AND
VICTIMS AGAINST CRIME ACT AND
THAT'S ALL FOR TRAINING.
I PROVIDED TRAINING FOR SEXUAL
HARASSMENT AND DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE.
THOSE MONIES WERE DISSEMINATED
PROPERLY AND WELL FUNDED.
AND ALSO IT INCLUDED THE
UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY.
WHATEVER GROUP THE CONGRESSMAN
WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, THEY'RE
COVERED.
VICTIMS OF CRIME ACT COVERS
EVERYONE.
THANK YOU.
I WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
QUESTION.
ED ACHORN
YES.
THE PROVIDENCE JOURNAL SAID YOU
MADE A FALSE CHARGE WHEN YOU
SAID MAYOR CICILLINE OH,
WELL, YEAH, I SAID THAT IN
ANOTHER FORUM A COUPLE OF WEEKS
AGO AND I BELIEVE IT'S TRUE.
I SHOULD HAVE SAID IT TACTICALLY
BECAUSE WITH A WINK AND A NOD
IT'S EASIER THAN PUT A
PROCLAMATION UP AND PUT THEM ON
TELEPHONE POLES.
IT WAS A MIXED MESSAGE SENT TO
THE COMMUNITY HERE IN RHODE
ISLAND.
CONGRESSMAN CICILLINE WON LET
THE PROVIDENCE POLICE PROPERLY
COMMUNICATE AND WORK WITH ICE.
THAT'S BEEN SAID.
YES, I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS
IMPLIED THAT THERE WOULD BE A
SANCTUARY.
THE ONLY THING IN ITS WAY WAS ME
BECAUSE I FOLLOWED THE RULE OF
LAW AND LOOK IT, IT'S VERY
DIFFICULT ISSUES HERE.
THERE'S FAMILY THAT'S CAME HERE
UNLAWFULLY, BUT THEY HAVEN'T
COMMITTED A CRIME HERE AND THEN
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE
FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF
COMMITTING CRIMES FROM ANOTHER
COUNTRY AND THAT'S WHERE I FOCUS
DZ MY COUNTRY ON CRIMINAL ALIENS
OF WHOM MANY OF THEM WERE
ILLEGAL RE-ENTRIES AND THAT
MEANS THEY WERE DEPORTED AND
BACK AGAIN AND ON MY WATCH JUST
BEFORE I RETIRED I OVERSAW THE
LARGEST COCAINE SEIZURE IN THE
HISTORY OF RHODE ISLAND AND
THOSE ARE THE THINGS I WAS
FOCUSING ON AND THE CONGRESSMAN
DIDN'T TAKE THOSE SERIOUSLY.
BUT THE PROVIDENCE POLICE ARE
HARD WORKING MEN AND WOMEN BUT
THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO
EEFFECTUATE.
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
THEY'RE IN THE THEATRE TONIGHT.
MR. CICILLINE, WERE YOU WEAK
ON CRIMES COMMITTED BY ILLEGAL
ALIENS?
I'M VERY PROUD, WE HAD THE
LOWEST CRIME RATE OF 30 YEARS.
THAT STATEMENT IS FALSE.
IN FACT, THERE WAS A RESOLUTION
INTRODUCE THE BY CITY COUNSEL
MEMBER THAT I SPOKE OUT AGAINST
AND IT NEVER HAPPENED.
THE PROVIDENCE POLICE WORKED IN
CLOSE COOPERATION WITH ICE ON A
REGULAR BASIS.
THE PWAEUF WOMEN AND MEN ON THE
PROVIDENCE POLICE DID THEIR JOB.
DO THEIR JOB TODAY.
I DON'T KNOW WHY MR. DOHERTY
MADE THAT STATEMENT BUT IT'S
PATENTLY NOT TRUE AND I'M PROUD
THAT RHODE ISLAND AND OUR
COUNTRY IS A HOME TO MANY GREAT
IMMIGRANTS.
I'M A GREAT GRANDSON OF AN
IMMIGRANT.
THEY BUILT A BETTER LIFE FOR
THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.
WE HAVE TO ATTRACT THE BRIGHTEST
MINDS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO
STUDY IN OUR UNIVERSITIES BUT I
OF NO IDEA WHY THAT SUGGESTION
WAS MADE
DO YOU SUPPORT THAT A PATHWAY
TO CITIZENSHIP
I SUPPORT COMPREHENSIVE
IMMIGRATION REFORM SO WE CAN
BRING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE
UNLAWFULLY OUT OF THE SHADOWS SO
THEY CAN BE DOCUMENTED.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHO IS HERE IN
THIS COUNTRY SO WE COME UP WITH
A WAY COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION
REFORM.
I NEED TO SPEAK TO THAT FOR 1
SECOND.
CONGRESSMAN UNDER YOUR WATCH,
MARCO REESE WHO WAS ARRESTED
SEVERAL TIMES AND SHOULD HAVE
BEEN DEPORTED HAD ICE KNOWN.
NOW THE HARD WORKING IN THE
PROVIDENCE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
MEN AND WOMEN, WEREN'T ABLE TO
COMMUNICATE THAT MESSAGE.
MARCO REESE RAPED A WOMAN, YOU
KNOW THE STORY AND I HAPPEN TO
MEET WITH THIS WOMAN A COUPLE OF
DAYS AGO AND SHE'S DOING VERY
WELL.
IT WAS A DIFFICULT STORY TO HEAR
AND THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE THEY
WERE NOT ABLE TO FOLLOW THE RULE
OF LAW
WAS THAT MORE OF A PROBLEM
FOR THE MAYOR OF PROVIDENCE OR
IS THAT A CRITICISM REALLY MR.
DOHERTY OF COLONEL DEAN?
THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH
HIM HE BASICALLY TOLD ME AS IT
RELATES TO IMMIGRATION ISSUES,
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, HE
BASICALLY TOLD ME THAT THE MAYOR
WANTS TO GO EASY ON THESE ISSUES
YOUR RESPONSE,, SIR.
THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
THE PROVIDENCE--
HERE HE GOES AGAIN
THE PROVIDENCE POLICE HAVE AN
ONGOING RELATIONSHIP -- THIS IS
AN EFFORT TO TALK ABOUT AN EVENT
IN AN EFFORT TO DISTRACT THE
ATTENTION FROM THE REAL ISSUES.
HE BROUGHT EXTRAORDINARY
RESOURCES TO THE CITY AND HAD
THE LOWEST CRIME IN YEARS AND I
THINK HIS WORK SPEAKS FOR ITSELF
I COVERED THAT STORY.
I REMEMBER THAT THE PROVIDENCE
POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD TO FAX
OVER INFORMATION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR IN
LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOK HUGE ISSUE
IN THIS 1980'S APPROACH OF
SHARING INFORMATION.
SO THAT --
ABSOLUTELY THERE. WAS A
PROCESS OF WHICH INFORMATION WAS
FAXED AND IMPROVEMENTS WAS MADE
AND IT WAS DONE BY COMPUTER.
BUT IT WASN'T THAT THE
PROVIDENCE POLICE DEPARTMENT
WASN'T COOPERATING
MR. CICILLINE YOU VOTED
AGAINST MANUFACTURING.
THE TAX IS A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR
INDUSTRY AND CAUSING JOBS TO BE
SENT OVERSEAS.
DO YOU BELIEVE HIM?
LOOK, I THINK THIS IS PART OF
THE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS EFFORT
TO ESSENTIALLY UNFUND HEALTH
CARE REFORM.
IT'S FUNDED FROM A VARIETY OF
DIFFERENT SOURCES.
IT WAS A COMPROMISE WITH THE
MEDICAL DEVICE INDUSTRY WHEN IT
WAS PASSED.
THE BASIS OF IT IS THAT THERE
ARE 30 MILLION NEW CUSTOMERS
ADDED TO THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
FOR MEDICAL DEVICES AND SO ON
BALANCE, THE INDUSTRY BELIEVED
THAT THAT VERY MODEST TAX WAS A
GOOD EXCHANGE.
YOUR VERY OWN NEWSPAPER MADE THE
SAME CONCLUSION. THIS WAS PART
OF AN GOING REPUBLICAN EFFORT TO
CHIP AWAY OF HEALTH CARE REFORM.
ELIZABETH WARREN, A STANCH
SUPPORTER OF PRESIDENT OBAMA
SUPPORTED THE BILL A.
YOU TALK ABOUT MANUFACTURING AS
PART OF YOUR MOST IMPORTANT
ISSUE
THIS IS PART OF THE WAY WE
FUND HEALTH CARE REFORM AND KIDS
CAN STAY ON THEIR PLAN UNTIL 26
AND WE ENSURE THAT CHILDREN BORN
WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS CAN
BE COVERED.
THERE ARE LOTS OF BENEFITS.
UNLIKE MITT ROMNEY I LIKE ALL
THE GOOD STUFF BUT NOTHING THAT
PAYS FOR IT.
THIS IS PART OF A MULTIFAST
ITTED APPROACH TO HELP PAY FOR
IT
SHOULDN'T YOU SPOKE TO OUR
LOCAL PEOPLE ABOUT IT?
I DID.
THAT DEVICE IS HELPING TO PAY
FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA'S HEALTH
CARE LAWS.
YOU SAID YOU WOULD VOTE TO
REPEAL THE LAW BUT YOU WON'T DO
IT UNLESS CERTAIN PARTS OF KEPT
IN PLACE.
WHAT PARTS OF THE LAW MUST BE
KEPT IN PLACE?
I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT
REAL QUICK.
WE HAVE GREAT MANUFACTURING
COMPANIES RIGHT HERE IN RHODE
ISLAND. THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD
WITH THEM ARE SCARY.
ONE FELLOW SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO
MOVE OUT OF THE COUNTRY IF
THAT'S APPLIED.
I TALKED ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE
HEALTH CARE ACTED AND THE FACT
THAT WE ALL WANT ALL AMERICANS
TO BE COVERED.
BUT WE NEED A BIPARTISAN EFFORT
TO DO THAT AND WE NEED IT TO
STAND THE TEST OF TIME.
THERE ARE GREAT IDEAS. THE
DEMOCRATS COME UP WITH GOOD
IDEAS AND THE REPUBLICANS DO.
WOULD YOU VOTE TO REPEAL IT?
STPW
WITH A BETTER PLAN.
I'LL GO ON RECORD TONIGHT
BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD ANYONE SAY
THIS, I BELIEVE IF PRESIDENT
OBAMA IS RE-ELECTED HE HIMSELF
WILL CHANGE IT TO STRENGTHEN IT
BECAUSE THERE ARE GOOD IDEAS AND
JOB KILLERS IN IT.
THE 26-YEAR-OLD TO BE INSURED
AND PREEXISTING CONDITIONS ARE
VERY IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY THE
26-YEAR-OLD WHO WOULD HAVE THE
HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE,
SECOND HIGHEST IN THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND
I'VE BEEN TO THE COLLEGE GR
GRADUATIONS WHEN YOU SEE THESE
YOUNG ADULTS WHO WANT A JOB
CAN'T FIND A JOB.
WE NEED TO FIND EFFICIENCIES.
WE'RE RAPIDLY APPROACHING
CLOSING STATEMENTS SO I NEED TO
MOVE VERY QUICKLY HERE TO COVER
A LOT OF GROUND.
HERE'S A SECTION WHERE I ASK
EACH OF YOU A YES-OR-NO
QUESTION.
YES OR NO AND I WILL ALTERNATE
THE ORDER.
MR. DOHERTY TO YOU FIRST.
YES OR NO WOULD YOU VOTE TO
REPEAL THE DEFENSIVE MARRIAGE
ACT A LAW THAT DENIES SAME SEX
MARRIAGES?
YES
WOULD I VOTE TO REPEAL IT?
YES
DO YOU SUPPORT TERM LIMITS
FOR CONGRESSMAN AND IF SO WHAT
WOULD THAT LIMIT BE?
I HAVE NOT -- I DON'T SUPPORT
THEM BECAUSE I THINK --
YES OR NO.
WE HAVE TO GO.
MR. DOHERTY.
YES OR NO?
THE ANSWER IS YES.
I'VE ALREADY SIGNED OFF ON TERM
LIMITS.
IT'S SIX YEARS.
2, 3-YEAR TERMS AND THE
CONGRESSMAN SAYS HE WANTS TO
STAY IN WASHINGTON FOR 20 YEARS
I NEVER SAID THAT.
PWRUPB UNIVERSITY HAS BEEN
ROTC AND ONLY IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL
THAT DOESN'T ALLOW ROTC.
SHOULD THEY BRING IT BACK TO
BROWN UNIVERSITY?
ABSOLUTELY
MR. CICILLINE
I THINK THEY SHOULD BUT THEY
NEED TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION
DO YOU SUPPORT RHODE ISLAND'S
NEW IDENTIFICATION WHEN PEOPLE
GO TO VOTE.
MR. CICILLINE?
I COMMEND THE SECRETARY OF
STATE TO ENSURING EVERY SINGLE
PERSON CAN VOTE.
THAT'S A NO.
MR. DOHERTY.
HE USED ABOUT 20 YEARS.
BUT I'LL SAY YES.
EACH OF THE CANDIDATES WILL
HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CLOSING
REMARKS FOR THE TELEVISED
PORTION OF THE DEBATES.
I WANT TO REMIND YOU THE DEBATE
WILL CONTINUE ON WPRI.COM FOR
ANOTHER HALF HOUR WITH SOME
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THAT'S AT 8:30.
WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE HOLD YOUR
APPLAUSE UNTIL BOTH CANDIDATES
HAVE FINISHED THEIR 30 SECOND
CLOSING REMARKS.
FIRST WE START WITH CONGRESSMAN
CICILLINE?
THANK YOU FOR THE VIEWERS
WATCHING TONIGHT.
THIS IS IMPORTANT.
IT'S NOT ABOUT MR. DOHERTY AND
ME.
IT'S ABOUT OUR FUTURE OF OUR
STATE AND COUNTRY.
WHO DO YOU BELIEVE WILL GO TO
WASHINGTON AND WHO CAN YOU STAND
UP AND FIGHT FOR THE THINGS THAT
ARE IMPORTANT TO YOUR FAMILY AND
TO YOU.
I'VE DONE THAT FOR THE PAST TWO
YEARS AND IF YOU GIVE ME THE
HONOR OF REPRESENTING YOU FOR
TWO MORE YEARS I'LL CONTINUE TO
FIGHT FOR THE THINGS IMPORTANT
TO YOUR FAMILY.
YOUR 30 SECOND CLOSING
ARGUMENT
DURING THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE
HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE TWO
DIFFERENT CANDIDATES.
THE DIFFERENT SETS OF VALUES AND
PRINCIPALS AND A DIFFERENT
VISION TO BRING AMERICA BACK AND
FORWARD.
I ASK YOU ALL TO TAKE A VERY,
VERY CLOSE LOOK AT BOTH
CANDIDATES.
MY NAME IS BRENDAN DOHERTY AND
I'M RUNNING FOR CONGRESS AND
I'LL ALWAYS TELL YOU THE TRUTH
AND IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT
THANK YOU.
TO THE LIVE AUDIENCE YOUR CHANCE
TO APPLAUD YOUR CANDIDATES.
[APPLAUSE]
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EYEWITNESS NEWS AT 10:00 AND
EYEWITNESS NEWS ON WPRI 12.
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PROVIDENCE PERFORMING ARTS
CENTER HAVING US TONIGHT.
THIS DEBATE WILL CONTINUE.
QUESTIONS SENT IN BY OUR
EYEWITNESS NEWS VIEWERS AND
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