Post-GameGune 2012 interview with Na`Vi.ceh9 (with Eng subs)

Uploaded by natusvinceretv on Aug 5, 2012

- Hi everyone, Arseniy “ceh9” Trynozhenko, a Na`Vi player, is sitting next to me.
The team has just arrived from Spain where they competed at GameGune
and got the 2nd place. Actually, this is going to be the main topic
of our little interview. ceh9, as far as I know,
you were attending the tournament with a clear goal of winning.
Yet, this is another silver. Can you briefly let us know
the reasons behind such performance?
- Of course we always attend tournaments with such an intention.
However we have such a statistics that is both good and bad one:
it’s the 7th tournament in a row where we proceed to the grand final
and it’s the 6th one which we lost.
It is also the third final which we lose to fnatic.
I don’t know what reasons are as we play every final
with our maximum efforts, but all of them
are also coming very late in terms of scheduled time.
Of course we can only blame ourselves for doing certain mistakes:
like dropping to Loser Bracket at GameGune,
which makes us to play 2 or even 2,5 times more maps.
Yet, I still do not think it is a good idea to play the grand final
at 10 or 11 pm where you have to outplay such a good team on 3-4 maps.
That’s why I think the reason might be because of some fatigue -
we would definitely like to play fnatic in some better conditions.
- As far as I remember there have always been delays at GameGune.
How does it affect the physical shape of the team
and its desire to win the tournament?
- GameGune is a really good tournament but for some reason
they always have delays. I think it’s because of outdated hardware,
i.e. old monitors that tend to break down.
They did not have good enough PCs, however this time they were better.
Anyway, when you have 40-50 PCs there’s always a chance
that something can go wrong. This time they didn’t have
any PC for a change and when starix had issues
they tried to solve the problem on his current PC.
Later on they had to replace a motherboard which was done by
disassembling the PC case, changing the hardware
and then mount everything up again. Does it affect us?
Of course it’s terrible. One could call us hardcore games
as we play up to 6-8 hours per day,
but we still get very tired during the practice and bootcamps.
When you get up at 7 or 8 am, have your first match at 10-11 am
and still do not start at this time but wait for 5-6 hours,
it’s very tiresome. The waiting is extremely exhausting,
even more than the gameplay itself.
That’s why I often talk about this issue in various interviews,
articles, etc. e-Sports is seriously lacking this kind of punctuality
and strict schedule. All teams are practicing at nights
but tournaments are being played at 7-8 am while the ideal system
would be doing tournament from 5-6 pm to 10-11 pm daily.
This is convenient for everyone: fans, audience and attending teams.
- Speaking about Na`Vi vs fnatic confrontation,
you lost three tournaments: Copenhagen Games, Dreamhack
and now GameGune. You don’t practice with them
before tournaments because they do not want it, do you?
- Yes.
- Do you prepare any tactics versus certain teams
or do you tend to practice your general strategies?
- We have never prepared any tactics versus any certain team.
We just watch their demos and try to understand
what surprises they are capable of and how could we counter them.
Speaking about fnatic, they have now a very good and strong lineup,
5 excellent aimers that have very uncommon playstyle.
Should we study their playstyle or have an opportunity
to watch their demos at the GameGune, for instance,
I think we could prepare ourselves.
Surprisingly, there was no internet for players in the gaming zone
which was a little unfair for both parties.
I mean that fnatic could watch us playing in the Loser Bracket,
while we could not watch their demos even after getting to the final.
We simply did not have internet and enough time before the final match.
When we look at the way they progress as a team,
I have to say we had the most chances to beat them at Copenhagen Games.
I remember that match and they did not play any extraordinary
and outplayed us at 1-2 am – the time when we started to do a lot of flaws.
They did better at DreamHack and beat us quite confidently,
especially on de_mirage, the 3rd map. Yet, mirage is hard to practice
because there are only 3 or 4 top class teams that play this map
and sometimes it’s hard to find such teams during practice hours.
This time we managed to prepare this map better,
we took 10 rounds for T and could hardly but still score 6 rounds for CT.
This tournament showed fnatic at their best shape.
They improved their shape during the actual tournament,
everyone played well and I can only congratulate them.
One should remember, though, that sooner or later
there will be a party in our house, too.
- Let’s hope for that! I noticed that when gain some advantage,
i.e. 8 to 1 score, you tend to play a little carelessly.
Do you think it’s your own fault and mistakes
that lead you to losses or it’s all about how the opposing team
gets prepared for the match?
- It’s hard to say anything like that about the opponent
and I can always speak about myself and my team.
We are all good gamers, we invest a lot of time into Counter-Strike
and it’s hard to say that someone does something better than you.
This means you can see your own mistakes that led to the loss.
I think we are our main opponents and we lose to ourselves.
Of course, other teams are also practicing,
they want to win and they deserve such a victory.
Speaking about our match versus fnatic, you can notice
some of their players showing an excellent performance with impressive frags.
That means they did their best and wanted to beat us so much.
They resemble our own team in 2010 when we had
an extreme passion for gaming, wanted to win badly
and invested hours of time into practice.
Anyway we had losses in 2010 and 2011 and it’s all about experience.
We are going to face and outplay fnatic in the next tournaments
that will eventually come.
- I’ve got a question that may be embarrassing for you
and it’s about that match versus Poles where you had 0-14 score.
How does it happen that sometimes you cannot frag anyone
and how do you cope with such situations?
- I’ve never taken into account that I always have to frag somebody in the match.
I have my own role in the team and my own strategies.
If I can follow my strategy, meet opponents and frag them,
I do it. If not, I don’t. Speaking about the match versus Poles,
it was a fault of mine because Markeloff and I had decided to go
to a shop and bought a lot of water. The shop was in 10-15 min
of walking distance from the gaming zone;
we had to carry it, got a little tired and therefore
I did not feel myself in the best shape. Speaking about the match,
we did tactical mistakes which can be seen by watching the demo.
No matter how frags would I do, it is the team who loses the match
and 0-15 score speaks for itself. Even in 4vs5 situations a lot of teams
can score 1-2-3 or 5 rounds. We all did mistakes and took wrong decisions.
On the other hand, Polish team played very well,
they could predict our attacks: you know, playing for T side,
I often go to the green corridor and there was Loord
who did smth like 25-30 frags in that match.
- It was something about 27.
- Yeah. I died 14 times and therefore it wasn’t only me dying.
He got his momentum and actually I am really happy
we could get our spirit after that disastrous loss.
I remember how we looked at each other after that first map
and thought that we could do nothing.
But it turned out that everything is possible: we got 5 minutes rest,
told ourselves that we still have 2 maps and we were going to win them.
So it happened when we beat them pretty confidently. We can be happy about it.
- Do situations like that give you some personal motivation?
Do you think you should play more
and are you happy with your level of skill overall?
- No, I’m never happy with my skill level.
My dream is to become an MVP of the tournament
but alas I can’t do it in this team for some reasons.
- Strong competition, isn’t it?
- Yes, strong competition, we have these roles, etc.
It’s not acceptable to play with 0-14 score but yet
you still have to analyze the overall situation on that map.
If you compare my performance on other maps
you can see me playing completely different,
I managed to frag and to do well. Fun is fun and done is done.
I should also mention the feature of this tournament:
it was very hard to spot the enemy in smokes because of old CRT monitors.
When you go the green corridor, a CT smoke up and flash you off
while shooting through smokes. This way you cannot see him
because you have light texture behind you and dark texture behind him.
You simply cannot see the enemy. But that’s the problem every team had.
It was just like that.
- How much advantage did Poles have starting as CT?
As far as I remember, you played de_train twice
and both times started as attacking side.
- This is a separate topic for discussion. We attended a lot of tournaments
and some of them decide side either by coin toss or after knives round.
No one has ever practiced knives round and we do not even bother with it.
We think there is no difference what side you are starting at.
Actually it matters, maybe not that much, but still does.
At least psychologically: when you start dominating,
the opposing team can have a hard time getting back into the game.
We lost something like 5-6 or 7 knives rounds in a row.
We didn’t get upset starting as underdogs and losing the first half.
To be honest, I do not know what happened to our de_train
because we prepared it very well before the tournament
and outplayed a lot of teams on this map.
We felt ourselves pretty confident on train as it has always been for us.
This time it didn’t work out. I think it might be because of CRT monitors.
Other factors were the same, yet we didn’t have such disastrous train so far.
We should watch demos. We could not get though certain positions
and should analyze why it didn’t work out.
- Okay, let’s finish the interview. As far as I know,
there will be 6-7 tournaments by the end of the year.
What plans do you have and what tournaments are you planning to attend?
- We plan to attend a lot of tournaments, literally all of them –
DreamHack in Bucharest, DreamHack Winter, ASUS Cup,
some tournament in Portugal that is about to be announced,
DreamHack Valencia. Most probably there will be CS at Starladder …
- Techlabs.
- … Techlabs showmatch. Also we got invited to K1 League in China
but I don’t know if we attend or not because it’s Counter-Strike: Online.
We will also have to spend there a lot of time there.
We will consider all of the nuances and I think we will continue
to play CS 1.6 so far and time will tell later on.
- I see, thank you for the interview,
I wish you good luck and hope next tournament you will get 1st place!
- Definitely. Thank you too.