ZEITGEIST, Part 1 (Religion) Debunked? Acharya Responds
Uploaded by spaceagebachelor on 09.05.2008
Transcript:
Hello friends
I'm DM Murdock also known as Acharya S
Author of The Christ Conspiracy
Suns of God
and Who Was Jesus
My work was one of the sources for the internet movie Zeitgeist
which has gone viral online with at least fifteen
million views so far
not only in English but in several other languages as well
First of all,let me clarify that I was not involved in the creation of Zeitgeist other than providing
a few images and consulting on Part One at the last minute
resulting in the final official version
and it is only this version I will be addressing here
Over the past several months
there've been many claims on web sites and in forums and videos all over the internet
that the first part of the Zeitgeist has been refuted
or debunked
Contrary to these claims
the facts continue to demonstrate otherwise
Because of my works influence on Part One of Zeitgeist
a number of the debunking sides have been directed largely at me
While we would naturally expected debate as to the facts
the detractors, whether theists or atheists quite often have not actually studied my work
and there has not been one refutation site to our knowledge that has proceeded from an
informed and unbiased perspective
accurately presenting facts based on serious research
It should be kept in mind that in this short video
I can't cover everything
but I have already written extensively on these subjects and I've specifically addressed several
important issues from Zeitgeist in my Companion Guide to Part One available on line
right now
Why is the information in Zeitgeist Part One not widely known?
In the first place
because of blasphemy and heresy laws, in the not-too-distant past people could lose
their jobs, friends, families, or even lives from merely questioning Christian dogma
which caused many people to remain silent on these issues
Also, much of this information can't be found in English
but it appears in other languages
like Greek, Latin, German
French, Sanskrit, Hebrew and Egyptian
Unless someone can work in other languages he or she may never encounter these facts
Because of these situations and others
including deliberate censorship by vested interests, many of these parallels between
Christ and the gods and goddesses of the ancient world
cannot be found in encyclopedia entries and these seem to be where most of the debunkers
are getting their information from,
as well as from Christian apologists,
who's biases are obvious and well known
In other words
you won't easily find this information in encyclopedias
The subject requires much deeper research than that
and reading encyclopedia entries
does not make an expert out of anyone
In addition,
these days many scholars are so specialized
they don't cover the broad array of subjects
involved in this particular field of research
Scholars in past eras
were less specialized
and they did in fact make these connections within comparative religion
as my research demonstrates
Furthermore,
some of these parallels between Jesus and the other gods represent
'mysteries' in the ancient world
that were not to be divulged to the masses
In fact, people were killed
for revealing these secrets
such that these mysteries
were not readily recorded
Nevertheless,
with painstaking research in piecing together we can present a solid case for all of the
important parallels
In my investigation of the Horus-Jesus parallels for my Companion Guide,
I incorporate many pre Christian primary sources
as well as the works of scholars highly credentialed in the appropriate fields
The other correspondences found in Zeitgeist can likewise be backed up with either
primary sources
or the works of highly credentialed scholars
For example,
the parallels between Christ and god Addis
who was brought up in Zeitgeist
I discussed by Dr Andrew T Fear
a professor of classics and ancient history at the University of Manchester in England
In his article 'Cybelle and Christ' Dr Fear tells us that Addis was killed and then raised
from the dead three days later
during a celebration that depicted him being resurrected out of a tomb
basically at Easter time
precisely as was said of Christ
Also, the idea of the Indian god
krishna's mother being a virgin
is not widely known and is therefore said to be wrong
First of all, the virgin birth motif specifically stated by ancient writers like Philo of Alexandria
to be a mystery
as was the goddess who gave birth to a god
and yet remained an 'eternal virgin'
and this fact of secrecy explains why these themes are not found all over the place in
writing
I have written extensively about Krishna's mother in Suns of God and elsewhere
In my books, The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God,
I also discuss in detail the gods Dionysus and Mithra who were likewise brought up
in Zeitgeist Part One
Concerning other themes in Zeitgeist,
there are many good books on the subject of Old Testament myths
and my book 'Who Was Jesus' goes into greater detail regarding the Joseph-Jesus parallels
as well as the lack of evidence
for the historical Jesus
We should keep in mind that shouts for primary sources serve to remind us that Christians
went on a rampage to censor
and obliterate everything outside of their faith
In fact, these censors destroyed a huge amount of the type of evidence that we're discussing here
One strawman argument rasied by debunkers concerns the December twenty-fifth birthdate of
various gods
which apologists dismiss by claiming Jesus wasn't really born at that time
However, since for 4th century, when this winter solstice celebration was designated as Christ's birthday
hundreds of millions of people have been taught that December twenty-fifth
is the date of Christ's birth
and hundreds of millions continue to celebrate that date every year
Indeed Christian preachers today still insist that Jesus Christ is
the, quote, "reason for the season", unquote
Furthermore,
in 2007, the United States House of Representatives passed House Resolution 847
officially declaring December twenty-fifth to be the birthday of Jesus Christ
Raising up this issue of the birthday of sun, s u n, is therefore entirely legitimate
but this assertion that Jesus was not born on December 25th merely proves our point
that he is not reason for the season
Another fallacy concerns the three kings comparison
which is dismissed by apologists because nowhere in the New Testament
does it mention a number for the wise men who brought gifts to the Christ child
While it is true that the wise men, magi or kings
are not numbered in the New Testament,
their gifts are numbered as three
at Matthew 2:11
gold, frankincense, and myrrh
Also, Christian tradition follows Matthew's suit, by numbering the wise men as well,
which is why we have a famous christmas song
called 'We Three Kings"
Christian tradition also calls the three king stars in the constellation of Orion
'the magi'
Much more about
all of these subjects can be found in my books
A word about the calumny and libel often included in these debunking videos
It shouldn't be necessary for me to address such silliness
but I can assure you that I am not a freemason, illuminati,
CIA agent or Mossad agent
Nor do I belong to any satanic or occult organization of any kind
Those making such claims are not only guilty of libel but are also breaking one of the
Ten Commandments
"thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour"
This type of vitriol has been tossed around by Christians since Day One and it is quite
tiresome
And speaking of wearisome speech,
the point raised by Zeitgeist about the Book of Revelation
and the 'end times' is important
for the reason that this constant talk by Christian evangelicals
it may actually bring about armageddon
by setting up Christians to do battle
and I firmly believe we must not let that happen
For this reason
we cannot afford to allow these matters to reside in the realm of unproven faith and blind belief
There is much more to this story obviously than meets the eye or can be covered in
a short video
Again, interested parties may examine the volumes on the subject produced by me or others
especially my ebook
the Companion Guide to Zeitgeist Part One
The same type of information for the rest of the Horus-Jesus parallels in Zeitgeist
can be found in my latest book
'Christ in Egypt:
The Horus-Jesus Connection
which covers these subjects in the same scholarly manner using primary sources and credentialed
authorities
Many of us are delighted by the amazing success of Zeitgeist for the major reason
that it has generated
tremendous interest
in what I consider to be some of the most
intriguing subjects on the planet,
comparative religion, mythology,
and astrotheology
These subjects have unfortunately been swept under the carpet for far too long in favor
of bias
ethnocentric fallacies
reducing the grandeur of the cosmos to petty fish tales
We are hopeful that this massive interest in these fascinating subjects will continue
to increase. Thank you
I'm DM Murdock also known as Acharya S
Author of The Christ Conspiracy
Suns of God
and Who Was Jesus
My work was one of the sources for the internet movie Zeitgeist
which has gone viral online with at least fifteen
million views so far
not only in English but in several other languages as well
First of all,let me clarify that I was not involved in the creation of Zeitgeist other than providing
a few images and consulting on Part One at the last minute
resulting in the final official version
and it is only this version I will be addressing here
Over the past several months
there've been many claims on web sites and in forums and videos all over the internet
that the first part of the Zeitgeist has been refuted
or debunked
Contrary to these claims
the facts continue to demonstrate otherwise
Because of my works influence on Part One of Zeitgeist
a number of the debunking sides have been directed largely at me
While we would naturally expected debate as to the facts
the detractors, whether theists or atheists quite often have not actually studied my work
and there has not been one refutation site to our knowledge that has proceeded from an
informed and unbiased perspective
accurately presenting facts based on serious research
It should be kept in mind that in this short video
I can't cover everything
but I have already written extensively on these subjects and I've specifically addressed several
important issues from Zeitgeist in my Companion Guide to Part One available on line
right now
Why is the information in Zeitgeist Part One not widely known?
In the first place
because of blasphemy and heresy laws, in the not-too-distant past people could lose
their jobs, friends, families, or even lives from merely questioning Christian dogma
which caused many people to remain silent on these issues
Also, much of this information can't be found in English
but it appears in other languages
like Greek, Latin, German
French, Sanskrit, Hebrew and Egyptian
Unless someone can work in other languages he or she may never encounter these facts
Because of these situations and others
including deliberate censorship by vested interests, many of these parallels between
Christ and the gods and goddesses of the ancient world
cannot be found in encyclopedia entries and these seem to be where most of the debunkers
are getting their information from,
as well as from Christian apologists,
who's biases are obvious and well known
In other words
you won't easily find this information in encyclopedias
The subject requires much deeper research than that
and reading encyclopedia entries
does not make an expert out of anyone
In addition,
these days many scholars are so specialized
they don't cover the broad array of subjects
involved in this particular field of research
Scholars in past eras
were less specialized
and they did in fact make these connections within comparative religion
as my research demonstrates
Furthermore,
some of these parallels between Jesus and the other gods represent
'mysteries' in the ancient world
that were not to be divulged to the masses
In fact, people were killed
for revealing these secrets
such that these mysteries
were not readily recorded
Nevertheless,
with painstaking research in piecing together we can present a solid case for all of the
important parallels
In my investigation of the Horus-Jesus parallels for my Companion Guide,
I incorporate many pre Christian primary sources
as well as the works of scholars highly credentialed in the appropriate fields
The other correspondences found in Zeitgeist can likewise be backed up with either
primary sources
or the works of highly credentialed scholars
For example,
the parallels between Christ and god Addis
who was brought up in Zeitgeist
I discussed by Dr Andrew T Fear
a professor of classics and ancient history at the University of Manchester in England
In his article 'Cybelle and Christ' Dr Fear tells us that Addis was killed and then raised
from the dead three days later
during a celebration that depicted him being resurrected out of a tomb
basically at Easter time
precisely as was said of Christ
Also, the idea of the Indian god
krishna's mother being a virgin
is not widely known and is therefore said to be wrong
First of all, the virgin birth motif specifically stated by ancient writers like Philo of Alexandria
to be a mystery
as was the goddess who gave birth to a god
and yet remained an 'eternal virgin'
and this fact of secrecy explains why these themes are not found all over the place in
writing
I have written extensively about Krishna's mother in Suns of God and elsewhere
In my books, The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God,
I also discuss in detail the gods Dionysus and Mithra who were likewise brought up
in Zeitgeist Part One
Concerning other themes in Zeitgeist,
there are many good books on the subject of Old Testament myths
and my book 'Who Was Jesus' goes into greater detail regarding the Joseph-Jesus parallels
as well as the lack of evidence
for the historical Jesus
We should keep in mind that shouts for primary sources serve to remind us that Christians
went on a rampage to censor
and obliterate everything outside of their faith
In fact, these censors destroyed a huge amount of the type of evidence that we're discussing here
One strawman argument rasied by debunkers concerns the December twenty-fifth birthdate of
various gods
which apologists dismiss by claiming Jesus wasn't really born at that time
However, since for 4th century, when this winter solstice celebration was designated as Christ's birthday
hundreds of millions of people have been taught that December twenty-fifth
is the date of Christ's birth
and hundreds of millions continue to celebrate that date every year
Indeed Christian preachers today still insist that Jesus Christ is
the, quote, "reason for the season", unquote
Furthermore,
in 2007, the United States House of Representatives passed House Resolution 847
officially declaring December twenty-fifth to be the birthday of Jesus Christ
Raising up this issue of the birthday of sun, s u n, is therefore entirely legitimate
but this assertion that Jesus was not born on December 25th merely proves our point
that he is not reason for the season
Another fallacy concerns the three kings comparison
which is dismissed by apologists because nowhere in the New Testament
does it mention a number for the wise men who brought gifts to the Christ child
While it is true that the wise men, magi or kings
are not numbered in the New Testament,
their gifts are numbered as three
at Matthew 2:11
gold, frankincense, and myrrh
Also, Christian tradition follows Matthew's suit, by numbering the wise men as well,
which is why we have a famous christmas song
called 'We Three Kings"
Christian tradition also calls the three king stars in the constellation of Orion
'the magi'
Much more about
all of these subjects can be found in my books
A word about the calumny and libel often included in these debunking videos
It shouldn't be necessary for me to address such silliness
but I can assure you that I am not a freemason, illuminati,
CIA agent or Mossad agent
Nor do I belong to any satanic or occult organization of any kind
Those making such claims are not only guilty of libel but are also breaking one of the
Ten Commandments
"thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour"
This type of vitriol has been tossed around by Christians since Day One and it is quite
tiresome
And speaking of wearisome speech,
the point raised by Zeitgeist about the Book of Revelation
and the 'end times' is important
for the reason that this constant talk by Christian evangelicals
it may actually bring about armageddon
by setting up Christians to do battle
and I firmly believe we must not let that happen
For this reason
we cannot afford to allow these matters to reside in the realm of unproven faith and blind belief
There is much more to this story obviously than meets the eye or can be covered in
a short video
Again, interested parties may examine the volumes on the subject produced by me or others
especially my ebook
the Companion Guide to Zeitgeist Part One
The same type of information for the rest of the Horus-Jesus parallels in Zeitgeist
can be found in my latest book
'Christ in Egypt:
The Horus-Jesus Connection
which covers these subjects in the same scholarly manner using primary sources and credentialed
authorities
Many of us are delighted by the amazing success of Zeitgeist for the major reason
that it has generated
tremendous interest
in what I consider to be some of the most
intriguing subjects on the planet,
comparative religion, mythology,
and astrotheology
These subjects have unfortunately been swept under the carpet for far too long in favor
of bias
ethnocentric fallacies
reducing the grandeur of the cosmos to petty fish tales
We are hopeful that this massive interest in these fascinating subjects will continue
to increase. Thank you