The Arizona Auction Scene Explored - Road Testament


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MIKE SPINELLI: Hey, it's Mike Spinelli on Road Testament
today with Charles Moseley, our special correspondent who
just came back from all those crazy auto
auctions down in Arizona.
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I like doing this, that's why you probably see it in four
different shows.
Charles.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Sir.
MIKE SPINELLI: Good to see you, man.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Good to be back.
MIKE SPINELLI: So is the auction scene down there just
all coke and hookers, as I mentioned in Drive Central?
CHARLES MOSELEY: It is actually an amazing scene.
It really is--
MIKE SPINELLI: Oh, speaking--
all right, wait a minute.
So what are we looking at here?
CHARLES MOSELEY: We'll start off with Barrett-Jackson.
There are six auctions, but the biggest one of all is
Barrett-Jackson.
270,000 people went there this year.
And this is just something that some people
call silicone Saturdays.
Barrett-Jackson is easy to mock, because it's the average
American guy.
They bring their wives, and they doll
themselves up pretty nicely.
MIKE SPINELLI: And because I--
Oh, speaking of average American guys, that's Don "The
Snake" Prudhomme.
CHARLES MOSELEY: But in addition to seeing just the
average American Joe, Barrett-Jackson's got
tremendous talent and draws in tremendous people.
Don Prudhomme, "The Snake."
MIKE SPINELLI: Right, a famous drag racer of the '70s.
CHARLES MOSELEY: And making a movie.
MIKE SPINELLI: '60s, '70s, '80s.
Really.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yep, they're making a movie, Snake Versus
Mongoose or something.
MIKE SPINELLI: Snake Versus Mongoose, with
Bill "Grumpy" Jenkins.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly, exactly.
And he brought his granddaughter who is very
attractive, too, very pretty lady.
A great guy to talk to, actually a huge car guy.
He loves IndyCar.
MIKE SPINELLI: Cool.
So let's get right into it.
I mean, Barrett-Jackson is one of a number of auctions that
happen around the same time, so it's like auction
marketplace down there.
CHARLES MOSELEY: It's unbelievable with six going on
at the same time, and the variety of cars is astounding.
Now, Barrett-Jackson is kind of known for a
lot of American cars.
They just this year sort of tried to bring back some of
the old classic American cars.
But they had been known for years as '50s, '60s, '70s
really interesting cars, a lot of Hot Rods.
And one of the cars which I really like was this Crow
Lakester Speedster.
MIKE SPINELLI: This is really cool.
CHARLES MOSELEY: It's an interesting car.
1917, it's called, it's titled as.
That body is actually the wing tank of a Lockheed
Constellation.
MIKE SPINELLI: A Connie?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah.
MIKE SPINELLI: So you're talking about the
tanks that you see--
CHARLES MOSELEY: On the edge of the wings, right.
MIKE SPINELLI: --on the edge of the wings
that carry extra fuel.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
MIKE SPINELLI: And then what was it
powered by, do you remember?
CHARLES MOSELEY: It's a Hemi 4-cylinder.
MIKE SPINELLI: What?
CHARLES MOSELEY: I know, bizarre.
MIKE SPINELLI: One of those old Hemi fours.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
And the great thing about this is that
it's got tandem seating.
And the pilot's in the back, like a trainer,
like a flight trainer.
So if you're the passenger sitting in the front.
MIKE SPINELLI: So kind of the type of stuff you see at
Barrett-Jackson.
How much of this go for?
CHARLES MOSELEY: That went for $117,000, I think.
No, I'm sorry $187,000.
MIKE SPINELLI: $187,000?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah.
MIKE SPINELLI: What else do you see at Barrett-Jackson?
The Monkeemobile?
CHARLES MOSELEY: You often see celebrity cars.
MIKE SPINELLI: Who was that on the phone?
CHARLES MOSELEY: I don't know.
MIKE SPINELLI: That's cool.
CHARLES MOSELEY: But the funny thing is every woman who
walked by this car sang the theme to The Monkees, every
single1 one.
I was there for maybe 15 minutes with the builder,
talking with him.
And there must have been 30 or 40 women, and literally, it
was constant.
Hey, hey, we're the Monkees.
MIKE SPINELLI: So is that the real car?
CHARLES MOSELEY: That's not the real car.
The real car is unknown if it still exists.
MIKE SPINELLI: Right, because that was a Barris car, right?
CHARLES MOSELEY: There's actually a very interesting
story that--
MIKE SPINELLI: I always say Chuck
Barris, but that's Barris--
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah Chuck Barris of the The Gong Show.
MIKE SPINELLI: To The Gong Show, yeah, yeah.
CHARLES MOSELEY: George Barris.
MIKE SPINELLI: George Barris.
CHARLES MOSELEY: But the interesting thing is that
George Barris did build a Monkeemobile.
But he built one with a white interior.
And the show has this interior,
which is a tan interior.
So people think--
I can't remember his name.
Jenkins I think is the original builder, and Barris
sort of took it on.
And then, of course, Barris being so famous
sort of owned it.
MIKE SPINELLI: Right.
CHARLES MOSELEY: But it's still sort of questionable as
to who came first, the chicken or the egg.
MIKE SPINELLI: Right.
But how much did this thing go for?
CHARLES MOSELEY: That only went for $40,000.
And the amount of work that went into it is unbelievable.
The detail's astounding.
MIKE SPINELLI: So kind of a bargain if you're not really
into the most expensive stuff.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
MIKE SPINELLI: But this is an interesting thing because
there's a tie-in with the new Camaro that's coming out.
CHARLES MOSELEY: This is a ZL1 Camaro, a real one, a real
COPO Camaro, Central Office Production Order Camaro with a
427 aluminum engine.
MIKE SPINELLI: Wow.
Because in those days, if you knew the codes, you could mix
and match different parts of cars.
CHARLES MOSELEY: You certainly could, but there were limits
with COPOs.
You had to buy 50.
So you couldn't just buy one.
You had to be part of a group that bought 50.
The interesting about this car, too, is an original
Camaro stripped out-- because these had no
amenities to them--
were about $3,500.
If you bought the engine for this, it was
an additional $3,500.
So the car listed for $7,000, $3,500--
MIKE SPINELLI: Half would be engine.
CHARLES MOSELEY: --of which was engine.
MIKE SPINELLI: Sort of a lot of like if you were going to
buy a ZL1 Camaro now.
They're coming out.
You're actually going to start seeing the reviews are out
soon with people who have been driving them this week.
So there's a tie-in with a brand new car.
The new Camaro's got the blown--
same engine as the ZR1--
CHARLES MOSELEY: Corvette.
CHARLES MOSELEY: --ZR1 Corvette, exactly.
CHARLES MOSELEY: And this went for $451,000.
MIKE SPINELLI: $451,000.
So the really, really, really rare muscle cars
still getting in--
CHARLES MOSELEY: Still getting big money.
MIKE SPINELLI: --big, big, big money.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Only 69 of them were ever built, and they
don't know how many still exist.
MIKE SPINELLI: So the second auction down
there, what's the--
CHARLES MOSELEY: And now for
something completely different.
Gooding, David Gooding and Company, holds an auction,
which is just as high end, as classy, and as elegant as you
can imagine.
MIKE SPINELLI: Is this where you wear the hats?
CHARLES MOSELEY: This is where you will find the multimillion
dollar cars.
Gooding has for the past four or five years always had the
highest selling car, the most expensive selling car in
Scottsdale.
And he did it again this year.
MIKE SPINELLI: So is this it right here?
CHARLES MOSELEY: This is it right here.
It's a 300SL alloy body Gullwing.
MIKE SPINELLI: Right, which is the one
that they made a lighter.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
It was about 250 pounds lighter, which doesn't sound
much, but you also got with the body, race camshafts,
stiffer springs.
It was a basically to go gentleman racing with.
MIKE SPINELLI: Wow, so this would be like the SLS GT car
now a little bit.
But when the road version would come out,
that would be it.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah, and they only made 29 of them.
And this engine has been completely redone.
As a matter of fact, there's still a limitation on how high
you can go with the revs.
MIKE SPINELLI: I mean, you could cook a meal on that.
That's how clean this is.
CHARLES MOSELEY: All these cars at Gooding are as
immaculate as you can get.
MIKE SPINELLI: How much?
CHARLES MOSELEY: This one went for $4.6.
MIKE SPINELLI: $4.6 million.
So that was the most expensive car the whole--
CHARLES MOSELEY: This year.
Last year, they did a Testarossa, $15 million.
MIKE SPINELLI: Wow.
So a little bit of a dip, but it's still ridiculous money.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Not in the total amount.
Numbers are up about 10% this year across the board.
MIKE SPINELLI: Wow.
But that's not the only kind of stuff they have.
CHARLES MOSELEY: You don't have to spend
$4 million at Gooding.
This is a little Austin Ulster.
MIKE SPINELLI: The Leo Parente edition?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
You could say it's diminutive, spritely,
popular with the ladies.
So there you go.
That's Leo Parente.
It's a great little car, and it only went for $30,800.
MIKE SPINELLI: So if you wanted something just to knock
around with on the weekends.
CHARLES MOSELEY: For those guys at that auction, if they
had a little bit of extra cash in their pocket,
they'd just buy that.
MIKE SPINELLI: OK, now, here we go.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah, this was gorgeous.
This is a stunning car.
It's a Ferrari 250 GT California.
MIKE SPINELLI: Still hot.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Although white.
MIKE SPINELLI: So white not the most popular color for
that thing.
We want it in red, but whatever.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Actually, at this auction, you wouldn't
want it in red because that's too cliche.
This has got taste and style, subtlety.
MIKE SPINELLI: So very stiff upper lip kind of joint.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Very much so.
MIKE SPINELLI: And so how much did this go for?
The California?
CHARLES MOSELEY: I understand you had an imposter here
earlier saying it went for $2 million in the promo.
That wasn't me.
MIKE SPINELLI: OK, it was that other guy.
CHARLES MOSELEY: It was that other guy.
It went for $3.9.
MIKE SPINELLI: $3.9 million.
All right, that's cool.
I'll write a check.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Stunning car.

Now we're going to skip ahead.
MIKE SPINELLI: Let's skip ahead.
CHARLES MOSELEY: We're going to go to another high-end
option, RM.
MIKE SPINELLI: OK, so RM and Gooding are the kind of the
same stuff.
They're the rivals.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah, and the kind of difference between the
two is Gooding has much more of a garden party feel.
You feel very casual.
You drink champagne, and you relax, and it's very outdoors.
And people are very friendly.
Everyone knows each other.
RM's a little bit more business, the business of
high-end cars.
MIKE SPINELLI: And this means business.
CHARLES MOSELEY: This means business.
Although this is an interesting car to pick for
RM, because it's not really in their normal genre, which they
do a lot of '30s through '50s, very expensive--
they do a lot of Ferraris, for example.
This is an XJ220 S.
MIKE SPINELLI: Absolutely.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Which is a great car, a twin turbo V6.
MIKE SPINELLI: Jag supercar from the early--
CHARLES MOSELEY: '90s.
MIKE SPINELLI: Oh, early '90s, yeah.
CHARLES MOSELEY: And they paint it this matte gray
that's the same matte gray that
you'd get on the Aventador.
MIKE SPINELLI: Oh, wow!
That's Lamborghini gray.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
Every single person under the age of 30 who walked by this
car stopped, took pictures, talked.
But the older guys walked right by.
MIKE SPINELLI: Of course, right.
It's not stock how much did that go for?
CHARLES MOSELEY: That only went for $230,000.
MIKE SPINELLI: So you now, I mean, you can go for the
Aventador or save $100,000 and buy this.
CHARLES MOSELEY: There you go.
And maybe even be a little bit faster.
It's only 2,300 pounds.
It's an extra light body.
MIKE SPINELLI: Yeah.
What the heck?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Now, you tell me what that is.
MIKE SPINELLI: I'm going to say, Duesenberg?
CHARLES MOSELEY: No.
MIKE SPINELLI: I'm just going to--
a LaSalle?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Lightning bolts on the
radiator give you a clue?
MIKE SPINELLI: Lightning?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Isotta Fraschini.
MIKE SPINELLI: Isotta Fraschini?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yes.
Italian bodied, Italian-made car.
Fantastic car.
But the reason I love this car is because something that no
one expected this year, and I walked around,
everyone knew it.
There were tremendous number of purple cars on everything--
'70s muscle, '30s Italian.
MIKE SPINELLI: So the trend this year at RM is purple.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Was purple.
Well, it wasn't RM.
It was all over the place.
It was amazing.
There were a lot of purple cars.
And it's a great car, but the colors are,
they say, period correct.
That's what it came in, they say.
They're not really sure, but that's the theory.
It was $400,000.
$407,000.
MIKE SPINELLI: Oh, so not too bad.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Not too bad.
MIKE SPINELLI: $407,000.
I mean, I guess, OK, it looks like it's been
immaculately restored.
CHARLES MOSELEY: RM and Gooding cars would be perfect.
MIKE SPINELLI: But again, no Silicone Saturday at RM.
CHARLES MOSELEY: No, not at Gooding or RM.
I don't know what happened.
MIKE SPINELLI: But the next one is a little bit
more down to Earth.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah, we go to Russo and Steele.
MIKE SPINELLI: Russo and Steele.
CHARLES MOSELEY: The interesting thing about Russo
and Steele, they do it outdoors under tents.
They have a lot of cars, about 400 cars.
They do fairly well.
It's the type of place where you walk down the aisles, and
you'd actually meet the guy who was working on that car.
MIKE SPINELLI: That's kind of cool.
CHARLES MOSELEY: It is.
MIKE SPINELLI: So you don't find the investors.
You can actually--
CHARLES MOSELEY: A few.
MIKE SPINELLI: Yeah, but you can actually talk to the guy
that rebuilt it.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
MIKE SPINELLI: Because these are wrench guys.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly, mainly wrench guys.
The interesting thing about it being under tents, last year
there was almost a tornado, a big windstorm, knocked those
tents down, and did about $1 million worth of
damage to the cars.
So this year, they had all these
reinforced poles and things.
MIKE SPINELLI: And luckily, everybody's probably insured.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Absolutely.
MIKE SPINELLI: For four times the value.
Not to assume that--
CHARLES MOSELEY: No, no, no.
MIKE SPINELLI: Nobody's scamming.
Anyway, but what the heck?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Very emblematic.
Very emblematic, that's something you'd find at Russo
and Steele.
This is a '65 Galaxie, with a 427.
And it's an original R code engine.
MIKE SPINELLI: Again, so a car that's really rare because you
had to custom order this thing.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yes.
MIKE SPINELLI: But one thing I do like about the kinds of
muscle cars that are going for big money right now are the
ones that are really sort of stripped
down with the steelies.
And you open the hood and you see the 427.
But it just looks like a librarian car or something.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
And this also what they'd call police slash taxi brakes,
which you had to know the order, and suspension.
So if you knew that, you could get a
low-sitting, solid Ford Galaxie.
But you had to know what codes to buy.
And this was one of very few that had it.
Unfortunately, I don't know how much--
Russo and Steele has not confirmed the prices, so I'm
not allowed to say what these went for .
But that is roughly an $80,000 car.
MIKE SPINELLI: $30 million.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah.
MIKE SPINELLI: OK.
So what happened here?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Well, that's--
MIKE SPINELLI: Because that's duct tape.
I don't know if you can see it, but that's duct tape over
a fender of-- it looks like a Jag.
CHARLES MOSELEY: It is a Jag.
This is the Jag XK150.
And Russo and Steele is much more the type of place you'll
find works-in-progress cars.
Guys who are in the middle of something, who go, I don't
want to take this on, and will sell it out.
So you'll actually find things like masking tape on Jaguars,
which, if you were at Gooding, this is $150,000 car.
Here it's going to be $25--
MIKE SPINELLI: They would throw you out.
CHARLES MOSELEY: They'd throw you out.
MIKE SPINELLI: And they'd take you and your silicone--
CHARLES MOSELEY: Saturday.
MIKE SPINELLI: --Saturday and stick it.
But anyway, wait a minute.
What the heck is that?
I'm going to say 280Z?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yes.
Absolutely right.
280z, Chevy--
MIKE SPINELLI: Nice paint job there, dude.
CHARLES MOSELEY: You know, it's interesting.
You have a lot of different aesthetic choices that can be
made by people.
I mean, mechanically the build is probably perfect.
The only thing is it's got an iffy aesthetic to it.
MIKE SPINELLI: I mean, it's got a blower,
probably has a Chevy V8.
But again, we don't know how much this went for.
But if you're in the market for a car like that, Russo and
Steele is--
CHARLES MOSELEY: Is a good place to go.
MIKE SPINELLI: OK, so let's see, what else we got?
CHARLES MOSELEY: We going to sort of wrap
up, I think, on Silver.
And let me just really quickly as we go to
Silver here, just mention--
MIKE SPINELLI: Oh, that's hot.
Is that a Lark or is that one of the--
CHARLES MOSELEY: I don't know if it's a Rascal or what.
MIKE SPINELLI: Could be a Rascal.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Silver is an outdoor auction.
It's the very casual, very used car-ish option, used
interesting cars.
MIKE SPINELLI: So this is the auction of the people?
CHARLES MOSELEY: The auction of the people.
This is where if you go just to go do the auctions, just to
experience them, but do want to buy a car, but don't make
$100,000 a year, or $200,000 or $500,000 or whatever, you
can go to Silver and pick something up for literally
under $10,000.
MIKE SPINELLI: Really?
CHARLES MOSELEY: They had $10,000 Corvettes.
MIKE SPINELLI: So what kinds of stuff do they have?
Oh hey, Deux Chevaux.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
It's kind of a fright big car.
MIKE SPINELLI: Yoga?
Does that say yoga?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yes, it's a yoga instructor's car.
MIKE SPINELLI: A yoga instructors.
CHARLES MOSELEY: And I actually quite liked this car.
And I don't know if you can see, but the hood actually at
one point had fallen back and bent completely in half.
MIKE SPINELLI: Sweet, I love it.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
But they bent it back, and put it back together.
MIKE SPINELLI: So again, no--
CHARLES MOSELEY: $4,000 bucks.
MIKE SPINELLI: $4,000 bucks?
So that's where you're going to go and find your T-bucket?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Exactly.
MIKE SPINELLI: Wait a minute.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah, and you can also find, again, guys who
are just doing their own thing.
MIKE SPINELLI: Yeah.
CHARLES MOSELEY: And this is an actually really fairly
decent T-bucket.
MIKE SPINELLI: That's cool, I love T-buckets.
I think the other, the High Boys whatever, they're a
little bit overdone.
CHARLES MOSELEY: The 3200, yeah.
MIKE SPINELLI: Yeah, I think the T-bucket is
the next hod rod.
CHARLES MOSELEY: That one went for about
$26,000, that last one.
This car I thought of you when I saw it, though.
MIKE SPINELLI: Oh, you thought of me?
Thanks very much.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Well, since you drive an MRS, a Mrs. Car.
MIKE SPINELLI: It's an MR2 to you, man.
CHARLES MOSELEY: No, but you know what they
call those in French?
You know what MR2 is French, right?
MIKE SPINELLI: What?
CHARLES MOSELEY: M-R-deux--
merde.
That's what they say.
MIKE SPINELLI: That's right.
You know I forgot about that, yeah.
CHARLES MOSELEY: If you don't know what that means, you'll
have to go to a dictionary, or translating book.
This is a little VW Squareback that they chopped in pieces.
MIKE SPINELLI: So they made their own thing out of a
Squareback?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah.
Kind of a Squareback thing.
MIKE SPINELLI: Squareback thing with a
nice shade of lavender?
CHARLES MOSELEY: Pinkish.
MIKE SPINELLI: Just pinkish?
Yeah, the color didn't come out very well.
It was pretty pink.
MIKE SPINELLI: So the upshot is that Silver is where you
get oddball cars.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Inexpensive ones.
$3,400 for that.
MIKE SPINELLI: $3,400.
So you could walk in there with a handful of cash and
walk out with something cool or interesting.
CHARLES MOSELEY: And they do attract some fairly decent
American cars.
MIKE SPINELLI: Like a Mach 1.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Like a Mach 1.
MIKE SPINELLI: That's pretty hot.
CHARLES MOSELEY: It was very pretty.
Now, mind you, this probably won't be all matching numbers.
It probably won't have everything correct.
But it'll be pretty darn close, and certainly looks
good, and it'll be great to drive.
MIKE SPINELLI: So would say Silver is the one--
CHARLES MOSELEY: That's $28,000, so a little bit high.
MIKE SPINELLI: But it's the one for the open-air market
for enthusiasts kind of interesting stuff.
CHARLES MOSELEY: It's fun to go and walk around.
MIKE SPINELLI: Yeah.
CHARLES MOSELEY: If you have a Rascal, especially.
MIKE SPINELLI: But don't wear your seersucker.
CHARLES MOSELEY: Yeah, and there's one other auction,
which we're not going to talk about, which is Bonhams.
The only reason we're not, it was their first time there.
They just started.
They did only 46 cars, I think.
They're great people.
And they certainly did well, and they'll be coming back.
But it was a very short auction this year for Bonhams.
MIKE SPINELLI: So they're more of the higher-end stuff.
They're competing with RM and Gooding.
Cool.
Thanks.
Charles.
CHARLES MOSELEY: My pleasure.
MIKE SPINELLI: Thanks for coming by.
Again, Road Testament @DriveTV.
Let us know what you think and what cars you might buy if you
had like a gajillion dollars.
And I was looking at the right camera.
However, that's it for Road Testament.
We will see you next week.
Later, adios.
Later.
Charles, good to see you.
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