Botinada - A historia do punk no Brasil (2006)


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If punk is garbage, misery and violence
there is no reason to import it from Europe
but we are in the vanguard of punk all over the world.
Chico Buarque
It is a subproduct of a violent society...
an oppressive society...
and it tells everyone what they could have by right.
Therefore it cannot be a tale of cuteness.
So punk, in reality, is a perverse mirror of all that.
THE ORIGIN OF pUNKIN BRAZIL
You wanna know what punk is? You do?
Ok come on in you'll find out.
You want to know what punk is. Punk is the shit.
Wanna know what Punk is?
What the punk movement was?? It was an Anarchic movement.
What d'you want? Terminate everything.
What d'you want? Smash it all up and start again.
We're gonna smash the lot. But, "People want..."
No, it is a metaphor.
We are going to smash it all up and rebuild it with dignity.
We are teaching the sickness that society is...
through our clothes our lyrics, our music.
We have to anger them as much as THEY anger us
SOCIETY,THE POLICE ,THE GOVERNMENT, religions and everything else.
It is when a quality was born of not putting up with it anymore...
unless all was changed.
One wanted more than what had been...
instead of what had been designed for one.
One couldn't talk, could not express oneself...
and there i could express myself, in this movement i could scream...
i could say what was going on inside.
Every human being had inside of him...
pent-up violence, unresolved issues...
things one has to express. that is what art is for.
that is what punk is for,rock, other styles...
and it can be exteriorized in an intelligent fashion.
What was inside the music, inside its attitude...
talked of social exclusion. - it was a general identification...
with a disatisfaction with the age with music, behavior.
To change, mainly to change. Young people gotta try things out...
like "i do not fear no more, i am going ahead".
the Dictatorship was on, and we wanted to break with it all.
Through a visual esthetics, a musical esthetics...
a behavioral esthetics.
One was living inside pure dictatorship.
You could not assemble with 2 3 or 4 guys...
without being busted...
¿Punk? Punk can fuck itself.
Fuck itself proper. For sure.
dudes thought punk was anarchy...
it was a revolution, fighting the Junta, demonstrating...
it was more. My aims were purely musical.
Punk did not only come as a way to fight the System...
it was also a way to fight the existing music.
To change, because after punk, rock, music was completely transformed.
I liked punk rock. As it had no guitar solos...
it was lightning fast, there was a lot of music in one record.
THE SONGS HAVE FEW CHORDS AND A NERVY RHYTHM
A DIRTY SOUND, FROM THE STREET, THE PRIMAL SCREAM OF MARGINALS
the hippie thing was played out
and punk came along to part the seas.
Simplicity, energy, loudness, rebelliousness.
It's only music or only philosophy...
or only a way to dress or do your hair?
For me it was all of that.
Many take Punk seriously, like it a political animal...
a transsformational movement.
I do no think that way. As long as there is a guy on the street...
wanting to make music, punk will never die.
There is always going to be, somewhere...
no matter when, some dude in a garage...
with a guitar hitting four chords.
WHERE DID IT START? THE BRAZILIAN PUNK MOVEMENT?
IT STARTED in Sao Paulo.
in São Paulo.
Guys in Brasilia say in Brasilia.
Bahía...
No idea. Could have been São Paulo.
The Brazilian Punk movement, I an sorry Paulistas...
but started in Brasilia.
the punk movement started on the outskirts of São Paulo.
Concurrently, it came out in Brasilia and also São Paulo.
In Brasilia, turned out some members of the gang...
had connections, teachers' kids, embassy folks.
Diplomats kids playing rebel in Brasilia...
and say that is how it all started do me a favour!
I think in 77 we already had Never Mind the Bollocks...
The Sex Pistols. had come out a little while back.
And also others: The Ramones, 76.
I know that in Brasilia the first Ramones record...
came out 76, but i do not think that hearing that...
the first Ramones in 76, does not make you a Punk.
I heard "forro", but that does not make me a lover of "forró".
THE ARRIVAL OF INFORMATION
THE PUNK EXPLOSION
In magazines, a totally new vibe, man.
And it rocked me.
...THERE was a movement.
Started to buy mags hoping something would start.
Was hard to be on the pulse.
It appears there was a movement in Sao paulo.
The punk movement has this problem. We do not have...
the real info.
Everyhere here arrived upside down.
People did not know anything,they only used chains.
Someone saw someone dressed a certain way, then they copied it visually...
One draws attention that way but it is their problem.
The first time i saw an article on the Sex Pistols...
i went and chopped off my hair. It was ridiculous.
I did it myself. And there my problems kicked off.
At that point i got connected to the punk movement.
Through magazines like Revista Pop.
i think the first big step...
as regards punk music, the punk movement...
was what Revista Pop did with Made.
At the time they pulled out a five page article, it was stupendous.
Punk for me, at the start, was a fashion.
it came out in Revista Pop: Learn how to be a Punk.
they said Made was punk. I was a fan of Made.
Punk in Brazil started earlier, it started with...
Joelho de Porco...
We laughed a lot about the hype...
when they announced it was the first punk club...
it was the title they gave to it.
i do not know if it is punk or not, but that is how they thought.
It was Joelho de Porco and Banda do Lixo.
I heard about Banda do Lixo, in 77, 76.
They were from Minas, was said they were the first punk band in Brazil.
it was on Pop "a garbage band no one knew where they were from"...
and the crowd threw garbage on the stage.
the name was cool.
BEFORE PUNK
We already had a rock and roll scene...
which was a good soil from which to birth punk...
everyone had heard MC5, Stooges, that type of sound.
many liked the sound back to the Stooges , MC5, back to 68...
who too were punks.
like MC5, Stooges...
New York Dolls, Dust.
MC5, Stooges...
there it all was, Lord Sutch, something powerful.
Rock meant pushing the barriers...
but wasnt enough.
Fuck, before i listened to punk, i was fixated on Kiss...
Deep Purple, Nazareth, those bands.
Black Sabbath...
Black Sabbath, which were mad, Ted Nugent...
I loved the Zeppelin, Slade, raw, live...
i listened to it on the quiet, beacause if i said i listened to Led Zeppelin...
i'd get a good kickin.
Led Zeppelin did ten minute solos, 7 minutes...
others too, Deep Purple. Those guys played live...
and a whole side of an LP was a drum solo...
Rock had been captured by Prog...
which was alien to the original intent of rock...
which was the soundtrack of rebellion.
Because Prog guys...
got nothing to do with that. They complicated things...
and if it is complicated, it kills rock!
If it had not been for punk, rock would have conked out, overweight.
Rock had been coopted...
by the media and assassinated by Elton John...
and other guys, which really dealt it a death blow...
the rock that went through your veins.
At one point they were saying "Rock is no more.
Now the fashion is "Disco"
i thought i do not like the way it all panned out.
Disco.
I am not gonna dance to that crap. It was nuts.
It is retarded music. - I befriended punks...
who went to la Galería, coz they like a good pasting...
of John Travolta, they used him as an asswipe. was really entertaining.
Rock, which was amazing, had stopped. And now we have this crap.
WE'RE HERE TO REVOLUTIONIZE Brazilian Pop Music
TURN ALL WHITE TO BLACK
HOLD BACK THE ELEVEN OCLOCK TRAIN TREAD ON FLOWERS
AND MAKE PLAIN JANE THE PERFECT WOMAN
CLEMENTE
RAUL SEIXAS "THE GEISEL REGIME TORTURED ME"
You could not play that music. The foggies from Brazilian Pop Music all sounded the same.
None of the Brazilian Pop Music worked for me.
Ha i do not like Brazilian Pop Music. - I am the flip side of that coin.
Chico Buarque is a bore.
Tropicalia is a turd, disgusting.
Gilberto Gil... - I'm from Freguesia ..
And the offerings of Caetano Veloso?
deadly boring. - A guy I really admire...
his lyrics, was a true punk: Zé Ramalho.
Heck.
i would skip buying trousers so i could score a record...
it was hard.
Was a thing of worship.
At the time, it was the hardest thing there was.
if someone brought out a record, Fuck i had to buy a single.
To buy a vinyl LP, costs a month's wage.
And when i popped in to the Galería, lunchtime...
most of the guys were clerical workers.
A clerk earned 600 cruzeiros a month, can't remember the currency from that time...
the LP was 500, but the guy would buy it.
So you saved your cruzeiros to go to la wop-Bop and buy the vinyl.
I started to acquire imports from wop-Bop, circa 78.
punks...
RAMONES, PISTOLS Y CÍA.
IN THE BEGINNING WAS BOREDOM AND THEN CAME PUNK
The guys who really got punk were the Ramones.
First the Ramones.
One of the first vinyl i scored was the Ramones
had a great sleeve would take it home and whack it on
They thought the shit of a Ramones T-shirt .
After hearing the Ramones, Sex Pistols, i smashed all my other records.
Clash, Sex Pistols, Ramones...
Damned, Buzzcocks...
They had 3 LPs, i heard them all...
it was the first Sex Pistols, the first Ramones...
all from Revista Pop.
Came out in 77.
Revista Pop presents punk rock...
Sex Pistols, Ramones, The Jam, Eddie and The Hot Rods...
Ultravox, Young Savage, phat...
Cherry Bomb, The Runaways, Ramones...
London, real hard...
Stinky Toys, French combo, no one knew them.
This thing was a watermark.
It was the first Brazilian punk release. I got it.
There was an argument over who would buy the rare records...
and then something happened...
Entonces Barão, Paulinho Carolina...
i started to buy many records here; know what i mean?
Those discs mutated into tapes, that...
was the spirit of cooperation that was in the air.
TAPES K7
Twas something... These days it is all gone
what i dug, was a live gig, reproduced on tape, Basf...
No one went to a live gig then.
At the time, it was all on tape.
No robot sound, no DJ, Was all on a tape.
People did not like live music.
The bands were bad. I prefered a tape recording.
Sometimes we gigged, and when we did...
you had to keep a bottle in your hand...
for personal safety, because the punters...
would invade the stage, pull the musicians off, they wanted to hear the tape.
We also had discos in our neighbourhood...
Sunday dances and the punks could not leave the neighbourhood...
they had no cash, and came with their tapes...
so they could be played amisdt all the funk...
so they would put on The Pistols and the punks would start to pull on their jackets.
Then a gap would open up, ...
and they got 20 minutes of punk.
The "civilians", would turn up and say...
What is this?! They said it would be rock!
And they would asked for it to be changed.
PUNK VENUES
I am gonna talk about the first venue: Construção.
They did not start off as punk, but became it...
as the punks started to come in.
It was the same with Construção. - That was a huge venue.
It came about in 77,78 all the way to 79 if I remember correctly.
It was a gathering of friends from barrio Vila Mazzei.
There were also parties, and the guys would take over.
It was a Rock venue then it became a punk venue.
Quite precarious: "Bands are gonna play here".
There is going to be a gig at Construção". I started to go along...
and suddenly, I was in a band playing.
And would turn up to play the punk matinee on Sundays...
at Construção, but they changed the name.
They called it Snowwhite, So no one would know.
I remember some had to come...
14, 15 Km to get to that venue and the fun bit was going home...
because a whole gang would turn up. Look, dream about that for a whole day.
There was another place too that made a mark...
was the Temple of Rock and later, just The Temple...
because punks started to patronize the Temple.
And the Temple was the place, in 81, 82...
it was where one went. - Furthermore...
it was a deaf-mute club.
Thank God, they could not hear a thing.
That is why they let us carry on.
PUNK ON THE RADIO
WE're coming back with Kid Vinil...
on another night the worst nightmares...
of Punk Rock, New wave and Power Pop.
And we are starting flat out...
with a great British band which I have already played on this show...
and I am back to talk about them, Eddie and The Hot Rods.
Pasaba que los chicos grababan el programa del Kid Vinil...
and would go on to play the tape.
And at night there would be the sound that Kid Vinil played...
2 hours prior.
He was one who promoted punk rock.
The first one to put it on at the Excelsior, many things.
That was when he started his show, on radio Excelsior.
Towards the end of 79, start of 1980.
I knew guys who...
would skip class, go over the wall...
to hear Kid Vinil and his show.
Before going out at night you had to hear it...
record stuff. Then it becamne more New wave:
Hell what crap!
Before "Rock Sanduíche", I had this on Mondays, it was all mine.
There was "Kid Vinil", for an hour, from 10 to 11, Mondays.
I remember that time, who ran the punk program...
Marcelo Nova ran a program in Salvador.
I did a radio program, in 1978...
named "Rock Special", i which they played The Clash, Sex Pistols...
Vibrators everything, The Damned, Stranglers...
The whole english thing.
it was unthinkable in 1978, to play The Pistols on the radio.
These days...
it looks basic, but it was not. There were things in the way.
Salvador is a provincial town, you had the guys who owned radio stations...
and theyr wives would not have it.
My wife would not let me...
Sex Pistols singing My way. They wanted the Frank Sinatra version."
FAMILY
My mum was cool with it. Maybe she was in tune with the movement.
My dad wasnt so keen.
Was he heavy about it?
he only wanted me to go to work, but...
i wanted to work, but i wanted my mohican too.
No, i do not think any family was behind it.
My mum signed me up...
for Aerial engineering courses.
My mum?
She said that: My boy is nuts!
I'll put him in the nuthouse, a place for drug addicts...
something like that, you see?"
Around the table, on Sundays the family was all there...
i would spit and say: "the family is a broken institution"?
That was the way it was.
My mum said: not that hair!
I am going for one more tatoo, Not another one...
but overall cool with it.
My name is Doña Adir, Vitor's mum, from apodo Morto.
It seemed stupid to me, he would...
spend his nights dyeing his clothes, in secret...
putting stains on his clothes, and went out looking deranged...
with that hair and many liked it...
i did not get it, but thought...
maybe i am the one who is wrong.
The punk movement, i think it was a movement...
which fought for ideals, you know?
Maybe we never got to them...
but i still stand by those ideals.
Punk existed since 74.
We already had the idea of Punk. We knew.
people already had the look: leather jacket...
ill-fitting jeans, plimsolls messy T-shirt and long hair.
Looking like the Ramones, on the first record...
it was the look in the Carolina. neighbourhood 351 00:23:11,936 --> 00:23:13,904 Vila Carolina was the storehouse. All came out of there...
until Cólera joined the fray.
It Punk had not been created in New York...
someone would have done it here.
We would meet, me, Valson, who came from Al-5...
and would mosey on to Carolina, to me everyone.
E.E.T.A.L. es Escuela Estadual Tarcísio Alvares Lobo.
All kicked off there, because the punks from Carolina...
Most of them were from E.E.T.A.L.
Everyone studied there, Douglas, Clemente...
Marcelino, who later became the drummer of Inocentes...
Jesus, José, who were his brothers...
a whole gang of punks. - Basically...
if you really look at it, E.E.T.A.L. was the start.
One would turn up, play, then another...
The guys got together, History was made there.
FIRST BANDS
The first bands were born out of necessity...
to talk, to make a noise, Like the Sex Pistols saying Anarchy in U.K...
or "to be in the streets of London" and there was a need to talk to ourselves...
about Carolina, what we were experiencing...
to talk about us, our daily reality.
And yes there were some bands, Condutores, Al-5...
Restos de Nada, who were already producing a punchy Rock.
Insofar as I am concerned, the first punk bands which really started...
with embryonic attempts then full shows were Restos de Nada...
Al-5, Cólera [Anger], and right after, Condutores de Cadaver [ Corpse driver].
They were the first bands on the scene...
So you could do it. And did.
Al-5 lasted from 78 to 79.
Four guys who loved doing it...
knew what they were doing furthermore, were pros...
apart from me. I did not play anything.
I did not play anything, it was a sham!
The singer, Rato, told me:
You have a tune that is your face.
He was talking about Travolta. And i swear i did not like that.
After a few years, people were talking about our music.
That was ironic.
My first band was Restos de Nada. [Remains of Nothing]
The first music we made, I was 15 , was Restos de Nada.
Restos de Nada got on the case in 77 ...
and made themselves known in 78.
We rehearsed avery day...
because the neighbours would call the cops...
so we used the time before they'd arrive...
on some tunes before they turned up.
We wanted to be rock and roll. And then we realized...
we were punks. As much punk as Valson...
The boys from AI-5, with their punk look...
we dug them.
And then came N.A.l., stood for Chained in Hell...
The far side of 77, early 78.
Ended up forming Condutores de Cadaver.
Prior to Condutores, we had N.A.l...
but in fact N.A.l. WERE Condutores de Cadaver.
Because N.A.l. did only one show. So bad was it...
drastic, a real turd...
so the day after we said: Let's change the name.
The band which detonated the punk movement was...
Condutores de Cadaver, they put on gigs.
Then we went and listened to Cólera...
the track "E.S.S.M., She Knew how to Kill". We'd check it out.
To be accurate the 26th of October 1979...
At first we had nothing. Our drumkit was a dog...
it was a stool, we had 2 drumsticks and 2 guitars.
No, we made an effort to form a group.
And then Cólera came out of that.
Our first official attempt was Condutores de Cadaver.
with Condutores's gear.
It was my first time with a real drumkit, I got into it.
Until then, all I had were drumsticks.
So the group took shape...
displaying punk forms...
in your face. We were 8!.
DECEMBER 1978
FIRST BRAZILIAN PUNK SHOW
It all started, We did a punk show.
i was from AI-5, Valson was from AI-5...
and then came the idea of linking with Restos de Nada...
Clemente, the boys from Carolina also, who had a band.
A gig was organized near his house, in Jardim Colorado, on the Eastside.
I remember i had a Volkswagen...
And that day Kid Vinil was with his Volkswagen...
We got with Clemente, we got some of the drumkit...
Took out the back seat, grabbed some amps...
I'll bring them to save time...
So the gear would arrive by car, and us by bús
I came out ten minutes later and got the bus.
I was late by 3 hours...
to get there.
We were in the basement of an old bakery in Colorado...
It was a brick warehouse...
It was a garage. with a low ceiling.
Had no lights, some guys, of course, hacked some lecky...
from a neighbour. - There was ONE bulb 447 00:30:06,283 --> 00:30:09,912 and they broke it, as one would expect, so it was real dark.
No stage, we stood right next to the punters.
And the dust rising from the floor, it was clay i think.
Basement of a bakery, you can imagine how barmy it all was.
They was cement all over the floor, and the punks started to pogo...
and the dust rose up. Madness...
could not see a thing. - Looked like special effects...
looked like a red cloud.
When I got home, i looked like a Cherokee.
I go back to 1973, whejhn i has a sound system...
with the name "Olho Seco" [dry eye]. what name ?
I said: "Ojo Seco." He looked at me and said...
Dry eye ? WTF? I said, "don't like it.
dry eye we'll see...
it's about all those awful things happening outthere...
they dry your eye."
What you're doing behind that table?
Nothing, nothing , nothing , that was the first time...
OK, a guy who complains with style. Olho Seco.
The first who brought punk news from outside, was Fabio...
from Olho Seco.
So the european gringo knew there was a band...
named Olho Seco. Then, they heard,"Fuck, crazy shit."
A brazilian band.
MEETING PLACES
PLAZA SÃO BENTO
You going to Sao Bento? Tomorrow i am going to São Bento.
The guys who worked in the center of town...
would meet at lunch in the square to play Punk Rock.
We'd get together, hanging out...
chatting about gigs and fights and the rest...
we would flirt; not too many girls though.
And on Sunday we would go there, stepping on the hands of hippies...
those idiots with their peace and love.
pretended to be looking for work and would head for the square .
I would spend all day at Punk Rock.
When they opened the shop I thought: So there are punks in Brazil?
Straightaway guys came down. I said...
Shit! So there are?
and the movement started to grow la Galería was the new focus point...
together with the shop Punk Rock.
And soon, turned into a meeting place.
Many band were formed in the shop.
One Saturday in Punk Rock arrived Ratinho, Minguau...
all those dudes, Denizinha, all with mohican.
next monday, all were sacked.
GANGS
Be carfel if you were on your own and met us.
I was like that, fat.
WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE?
The upsurge of gangs had to do with the film, Warriors.
Warriors was crucial...
because at that time we had nothing that was punk.
The film shows gang fights...
so we thought that was what punk was.
And guys set out to emulate that...
walk like them, fight like them.
When i came out of Warriors, first thing i did was buy a jackknife.
From the gangs came the first noises...
the first bands, which came from the ones who had the shops...
who made the T-shirts, who also believed in nothing.
Because, primarily punk was not a movement...
to save the world, it was a gang, against everything...
from the system to which neighbourhood you were from.
There was the whole gang thing.
Is punk violent?
Yeah it started out that way. Why?
Due to the gangs. There were many.
You had the Ostrogoths, also from Vila Santa Maria...
They liked to make a big noise and fight...
you had Phuneral Punk from Zona Sur...
El Meloso, out of Limão...
Piratas... - Punk da Morte...
Carolina Punk, and later, Carolina da Morte.
Also Los Metralhas.
Indecentes... - Punk Molambo, Punk Sarjeta...
Rebeldes de Sao Caetano... - Anjos from ABC...
Punkids, from Zona Este...
my gang here was Punk Mortal, phat.
guys from Barra Funda, Maquiavélicos...
Punk Repugnantes... - You had gangs of chicks...
Like Punk Carniças, in Sonia Maria, in Maua...
They were from the neighbourhoods, 15, 20 guys.
They were not really punks, but they'd go out...
to hear something here and there, go to a party...
And they'd fight each other... - It struck me as fucking stupid...
The guys wanted more... dyou know how?
My gang is better than yours. Kids'stuff.
First of all fighting was a party.
They ranged from 15 to 18, all over the world the same.
That way it was really flighty, really explosive, hard to manage.
It was teen spirit. The music helped all of that...
the fights in the end...
My music , my fights. - My fights...
Because Punk primarily held that idea...
of fighting , rivality.
The boys would fight over anything.
Always keen...
if they did not get what they wanted...
we're gonna smash the lot and get even.
Always they thought there was an enemy.
Started wityh the Blacks from Galería, then the longhairs...
and then internecine.
There were some sharp guys...
like Ariel, who was really clever, interesting, and Clemente.
To find an ideal of struggle, to end...
with this rotten system, which abandoned us in this way...
thrown on the trashheap, at the bottom of a well of despair.
But the bulk of them were in it for fighting and parties.
In those days I liked a fight.
I was gagging for a fight, but no cowardice.
I thought one came out for a scrap...
but there is a reason. Well there is...
In a way...
I do not know, as if there were. Cant be explained.
The fights were just punches, kicks...
and lashing out with chains...
If there was a fight, I would wait until it blew over.
beacause of all that the movement was held back until 79.
the movement started in 80...
the gangs started to get on...
apart from ABC, in São Paulo.
ABC GREATER SAO PAOLO
WITH SANTO ANDRÉ, SAO BERNARDO == SÃO CAETANO
SP X ABC
The punks from ABC wanted to be the hardest in São Paulo...
to be louder,faster...
more violent. To be the cavemen from ABC.
ABC was really united.
They walked together. In São Paulo there was intrigue...
between the gangs, it started that way.
In ABC, punks thought their were a cut above São Paulo...
because of the workers movement...
the political dimension, the trade-union movement in ABC...
Lula appeared there like a promise...
for the future to change society.
I think we were kids, to be true, ...
and our political awareness was basic.
I studied in a college at the heart of São Bernardo...
y in 80, 81, when the metal workers were on strike...
kids would skip class to go see the strike.
Something interesting happened:
us in class and Army choppers...
training their machine guns. And at that time...
I had my first encounter with teargas...
and that smell printed itself in my memory, never left my nose...
so that, for me, ABC is teargas flavoured.
There waw this thing about ABC being an industrial area...
and people's ways were different there...
then things got amplified...
for the fact that they felt excluded...
all the interviews were with the Sao Paolo crews...
everything was happening there, and they felt close and removed at the same time...
beacause of the fights, they could not really come to São Paulo...
and could not enjoy it when they did.
In São Paulo, they were more in tune...
with what was going down in Europe and US.
and they joked: ABC is punk.
They only liked The Sex Pistols, The Clash and Ramones".
But overthere, them, they had a zillion bands.
The guys from ABC jested with us in São Paulo...
they said we were no punks...
because we went to town by bus and they by train.
The ABC folks would say: "Punks in São Paulo have more loot."
the city types were handsome, tidy...
leather jackets, shiny boots...
and ABC was somewhere rotten, filthy.
The fights evolved...
until you had a veritable war between ABC and São Paulo...
a war no one got benefits from.
I could not go to ABC to see a gig or go to a party...
as I was from SP...
there guys would, unavoidably, give me a good kicking.
Few bands from ABC played in São Paulo and viceversa.
Imposibilito for example had many gigs...
many festivals, it was really interesting...
what could come out, but was held back by the fights.
the thing grew to a point where the hatred was total.
There came a time, mostly in 81...
when the level of violence became unbearable.
There were murders.
A BOMB AT CONSTRUÇÃO
For example, Padua, who was from Passeatas in ABC, started...
a business of bringing bombs, handmade.
and he threw one...
threw a Molotov...
on the São Paulo folks...
One time, this guy, boasts he's going to the stadium...
to blow it all up. Straight up.
The punk who was nominated to throw the bomb, at one point, hesitated.
I was close by and said: Cmon get on with it...
and the guy still wasnt sure. So I said, "Give me that."
And as I was getting ready...
the git shouted, Look the fuzz!
Fuck, tough to handle. You have a bomb in your grasp...
and the guy says here comes the Police, what dyou do?
throw it at them right??
When i got there to look there was no fuzz.
When I returned, the wick was burning...
and the only solution was to drop it.
It blew up between my hand and the ground.
Luckily, no one was hurt...
but i cant be a hypocrit, we meant to do it...
to hurt all the ones who were there.
But, luckily, we messed up.
These days that guy is friends with everyone, shows how things are.
APRlL 1982
Grito Suburbano [suburban scream]was the one that came after: first...
Olho Seco pressed a single.
That was the plan. Had to terminate the band. But found success.
Condutores came to an end, they formed Inocentes, Cólera there too...
and other bands, I said: I am going to make an LP.
Fabio, well dedicated to the growth of the scene...
at all levels, buzzed me and said...
What dyou think we can do to get an LP under way?
No one knew.
lncluso the studio was a Born Again music studio.
The weird thing is no one had been in...
so for me it was wonderful.
We cut a Disc, here...
in Timbiras Street, 8 tracks...
it had tracks! You could hike the drum track.
It only had 8 tracks.
No one knew what they were doing in the studio.
From the first chord with the distorted guitar...
through the amp, the engineer said stop the whole thing...
there was a noise no one knew came from.
In fact, it was the guitar sound.
was hard to tell him that was the right sound.
It was basic, the sound was poor.
Our gear was not up to scratch.
And the whole setup was shite really.
Add to that the compounded problem...
that we coulnt play.
Was really hard to buy an instrument.
And to record, none of that was easy.
The whole thing was rigged up for a mainstream sound.
The first recording did not pan out well...
then i hired great equipment...
better than what the studio had.
Grito Suburbano was laid down over 8 hours
But we had to do it twice.
We were dumb. instead of mixing the two , we totally started over.
And the recording came out dirty, not like the one by Inocentes...
Cólera and Olho Seco. All three had very different recordings...
although all made in the same place.
It wasnt what we set out to do, but it is where we got to...
at the time. and Grito Suburbano happened there...
the main record of the origin of punk on vynil in the history of Brazilian punk.
We had managed to get over a huge barrier.
The tapes had been transferred to vinyl. Fuck, that was huge.
There was an overseer, his name Teodoro...
he died a while back got knocked down...
many thought it was me the overseer.
So i would lie to them told them I was the guy.
THE SlNGLE LlXOMANlA [Garbage Love]
THE SECOND BRAZILIAN LP
The first disc by a band on its own, to be true...
of a brazilian band, punk...
The first one that came out was from São Paulo...
and the first to press a single, vynil...
with six musicians.
you have to emphasize they were the first...
which the Punks really dug.
The single by Lixomania, which cost...
In Europa, 600 dóllars. Yes that was it.
That really was cool if not financially...
but because of what it meant for later on.
that was my initiative...
to have disc by Cólera which would be titled Sub-Ratos...
but then it seemed selfish so I said:
We are going to do something like Grito Suburbano.
get the bands together, each bring some money...
and we produced an "antology" also.
sadly it did not improve things. We were even poorer...
as regards getting gear for the studio. With the money we had...
we did the best we could...
we the allocated time we had.
SHOW AT THE GALLERY AUGUST 1982
So at that time, I had a job, I was an editor...
of this magazine here, called Gallery Around...
it was an art mag.
And i had concocted an article on Mae East from Gangue 90...
for Gallery magazine and I was very chic...
the writing team was also very chic. The punks saw that...
What is this dude doing here?
For the magazine launch, I invited everyone...
who was mentioned in the article to come to the Gallery.
So we went, Verminose and Patrício Bisso.
Turned out real eclectic.
The Gallery clientele was made up, for the most part...
of loaded types, top brass...
who knew what was what.
So Zé Vitor, the owner, said: But do not bring Punks here...
only the bands", for rich folks, government types.
It was a private club, a Bourgeois thing.
Gallery was a member-only entity.
then a bunch of punks from Carolina turned up, from all the barrios...
and wanted entry. When the bouncers saw them...
people in destroy clothing, with zippers, clad in black...
they said: No one gets in.
You came on foot from the center of town...
and then you are allowed in, you gonna get pissed.
so I got some fake invites and 40 got in...
and ended up at the Gallery. Zé Vitor Oliva went nuts...
and the guys broadcasted who they were...
we're from the suburbs, we are scaring the Bourgeois...
our table had all the good stuff.
the dudes came over and took caviare.
Look, caviare. Caviare for me was a glorious food.
But it was all placed on stupid crackers.
We got on stage...
and no one paid us any mind.
All were eating and drinking. Then Calegari quickly...
spat on the front rows.
The diners just sat there...
it pissed me off, they were ignoring us.
They could not expel us, so they were giving us the cold shoulder...
When Inocentes were done, they pulled the plug...
so they would not leave the stage. They had to get it back...
and at that moment Meire was singing.
telling all to fuck themselves.
It was beautiful. - That was it.
We dedicate the sound we make here...
to the punks who are present. because the sound we create...
has the capacity to talk about many things, but you all know that right?.
THE BRAZILIAN VIBE
The concert was sold out and there was a fight outside...
cannot remember if it was the fuzz, cant say what happened.
the punks ended up attacking someone's car...
Before it started... - they made a mess.
The fuzz arrived... - Someone said:
The police is invading! let us fight back!
The band can come on, can finish up.
If you said, "Please sir", they would lash out.
Everybody was fighting...
Men on one side, women on the other. - They said the Police was taking all the boots out...
and jackets... - There was a forest of boots...
bracelets...
In the middle of the hall, i swear...
i think about 50 pairs of boots.
all mixed up.
OK and then they mixed then all up.
As they left all grabbed what they could.
No one got the right pair...
no one got the right bracelets.
Redson came out with 2 left ones.
REPORT FROM ESTADÃO
You had Punks, gangs, you had Grito Suburbano...
but no one was aware.
Then a guy, cannot remember his name...
wrote a piece in Estadão.
Until then people had this image of punk...
as someone who preyed on the old, mugged people.
We were in Punk Rock shop, all were reading the article...
which said, a true punk would fuck his own mother.
THEY SEE NO SPLIT BETWEEN GOD AND THE DEVIL
They mug little old ladies in the subway, drink milk with lemon so they can retch.
This is fucked up ,we are going to write in.
It fell to me. I wrote the letter to the magazine.
Then after it was published...
many became aware...
that they were punks in Brazil too...
an organized movement, many things were happening.
And then, if the letter came out in the Sunday paper...
on the Monday Bivar came out in Punk Rock...
Fernando Meirelles, the people from Mirar Eletrônico came out...
to make Garotos do Subúrbio.[ Boys from the Hood]
May TV Globo fuck itself.
May God...
When I picked the topic...
myself and Alberto we went to visit the galleries...
were punks hung out...
in their meeting place and we chatted to them...
and when we got to know them...
It got real cool...
we're gonna make the documentary here."
THE BETA PUC VENUE 28.08.82
Beta was a hall you could hire.
from DCE, which was anarchist.
There we organized Começo do Fim do Mundo [start to the end of the world].
we had Beta Hall, then we decided...
Let us do a unified concert.
It was a unifying event, blending both factions...
which had been fighting, ABC and São Paulo.
You could not get them together...
within have the peace first.
When Clemente said that,ss we started to talk...
It wont be a fraud, will not be a contrick?
The folks from São Paulo, from Inocentes...
a band named Ulster...
and Passeatas, which came from ABC.
It was amazing, a huge crowd. We managed to...
get everyone into PUC, it was astounding.
It was a different crowd, many students...
a much more politicized group.
Students were also fighting the dictatorship...
so they had that in common with the punk movement.
And everyone had a blast, united...
enjoying the bands:Passeata, Ulster...
and espaecially the guys from Inocentes, when Panico played SP [Sao Paolo]...
everyone got dancing pogoing and singing.
When the gig was over PUC was in flames.
a fire, three fire engines on the outside.
First people thought it was the punks .
Then we found out it was the fuzz.
The dictatorship had planned it all out.
To burn the archives held in the PUC, from the invasion they did in 79.
And seeing that the place was full of punks...
DCE was anarchist, so that would be killing two birds with one stone.
The daily Noticias Populares had this headline:
Punks torch PUC. and i thought OH God.
that spells the end of punk." - Our mistake...
We loathed the corruption; repression; the police.
I hated it all.
We are going to put on a gig. Take the guys from ABC...
playing with São Paulo. We are going to make a record"...
because that was a hard task.
We make a record get the guys together onto vynil...
and that will get us the peace."
The idea of "Começo do Fim do Mundo""Beginning of the end of the World" came about there, in Fabio's shop...
So we went, me and Calegari by train all the way to ABC...
to offer this peace pact.
We had to make all the bands play together...
no matter where from, ABC, São Paulo, Zona Este, from wherever.
All had to play together, having fun all as one."
It was a piped dream innit: Would not work.
There would be casualties." excuse me.
And today it is seen as one of the greatest...
if not the greatest punk festival of all times.
The festival appeared all over the international press...
from the Washington Post, all the way to Japanese publications...
underground press like Maximum Rocknroll...
newspapers in Spain, all over.
We had created a revolution.
The festival place São Paulo's punks on the world map.
20 band were there, for 2 days, huge turnout, some stuff not so good...
but which happened at all shows.
all the bands who were meant to play, played.
It stopped when it was due to stop.
It was not held back by fights.
The neighbours were stunned, black people turned up...
It created on huge impact on the area.
You had never seen so many punks, so many people you knew...
even I had no idea there were so many punks in São Paulo.
There, it showed the strength of the movement...
And from then on...
people started to see punks as an ethnic minority curiosity...
It was the first instance...
of society being able to get close to punk.
SESC allowed us to put up...
an exhibition offoreign punk paraphernalia...
and also from here, housebands, pictures, records.
Well, the guys were for real. it was a musical movement...
and one had no realized what was going on...
because they were all teens, it was the apex of the punk thing.
A few bathrooms were smashed. That is not punk.
One would turn up have a look and go get some wine.
Everyone chipped in for cheap wine...
we were all so skint.
And at about that time, the mess started up...
i saw what happened...
the fight started during a changeover.
Guys from ABC...
had chartered a bus and as it was a peace event...
and brotherhood even .Guess what?
the city guys did not dig it.
One turned up and said: What is this shit ?...
you do not hate each other anymore ?
let us fix all this
and all the guys from ABC and those from São Paulo.
A huge fight kicked up...
police, blows from all sides it was unbelievable, a really hard space...
to manage to get the bands on.
and they locked down SESC...
but the punks rejoiced, because the police did not invade SESC.
so they all got into SESC.
There was a gate; they shut it down.
I remember Cranio was close to the wall and said...
I want to see if they rush us. I'll moon them...
Many cars milling around. We saw it from the side, from a Born Again church...
we ran to the Church...
We tried to convince then there...
not to hand us over...
as the police was persecuting us...
like the Romans had Jesus Christ.
You got a band? - Yea , i do.
And the name? - Suburbanos...
fighting for all the things punks fight for.
That was it. Someone had arrived who was not expected.
Look: the fuzz.
The police we hate that scum. they are a doomed species.
Soldiers, dogs, what a shame.
I caught the train back to town, since...
there was fuzz in all the surrounding stations...
waiting to snare the punks in their nets.
None of this departed from the historical import of Começo do Fim do Mundo...
which had managed to get so many punks together...
and no one had got killed, all made it home intact.
That they were clubbed by the fuzz that was par for the course. That happened...
at the weekend. So that was just another weekend hey!
Down with the system! Down with the system!
THE SCATTERING
TV Globo got hold of it, filmed the lot, the night was a success... 951 01:03:03,592 --> 01:03:06,459 with amazing footage and the whole of society...
including the filth, started to badmouth punks.
Because punk appeared to be the vanguard...
of a form of revolution...
whichever way punk had clout.
But the media set out to crush them.
The show Fantástico...
killed the lot dude.
That chick was in Galería, lubricating the whole crowd with beer...
guy did , did not, did...
and they came out with a sensacionalist piece of garbage.
I realized a day later at Fantástico...
that the punks who worked there had been canned.
When I entered a bank, with bleached hair...
many would say: "You one of them?"
Haa forget it" It all came to an end.
All of the violence is much more sensacionalist...
than what punk was about, what its message was...
around the world, in society, in the life of São Paulo.
They compared punk...
to raw sewage on the street.
It did not do good as we were seen as really bad.
It crooked the movement, and all went their separate ways.
It ended; all of it ended.
Many went into the business side.
I went into Metal, many chicks there...
many gigs and no fights.
Others youngsters saw us as petty thieves...
law-breakers, and people were scared, literally.
They shut up all the shops, they saw it as a liability...
to have a shop or business near a punk gathering spot.
2 or 3 petitions were circulated to get me moving.
I had to go. I had held out long enough.
If I could go back in time I would have held out longer.
would have fought, struggled, but held in there.
CURRENT STATE OF PLAY
I am jobless, i do not do anything.
I am involved in a few productions, a bit of free-lance...
trying to keep head above water.
I teach acoustic and electric guitar.
I work as an electrician, plumber, painter.
I work at the State Secretary for culture, putting on rap festivals.
I'm in import/export, soya.
I am putting a studio together, also producing.
Working with kids...
in an outfit with kids who have cerebral palsy.
I am a mobile engineer. And musician at night.
Business director in a company, involved with art.
Currently working in a band called Replicantes.
I have a solo career.
Currently working in scrap.
I deal with all sorts, we make barbecues...
I deals in CDs, sweets, popcorn...
Handyman will do whatever pays.
I write for a magazine , sporadically...
fixing literary conferences when they need me.
Teach Kung Fu.
Running a debt collection agency.
Working with cranes.
I have a shop, my own brand, Gravações Sem Qualidade.
Working for MTV...
I host a radio program and sing with Ratos de Porão.
Work for a multinational.
Back to normality. - Taught for a while...
for 13 years, History.
At the moment a driver.
Zorro these days is motoboy ::]]]
I am a mad dog and play with M-19.
I am a punk and will die a punk.
THE PUNK LEGACY
How would Brazilian Rock be today...
if it had not been for punk...
if it had not upset the apple cart...
to jazz things up and make it all much wider?
Paralamas do Sucesso, hitched a ride with us...
Ira, Titãs. All of them came along.
A great part of the Indie scene...
was really infused with all ...
the musical history of punk.
Those band opened the doors so we could walk through...
the whole scene is much more together these days...
none of this would have happened without the embryonic scene...
of the generation of 82, Olho Seco, Garotos, lnocentes.
If it gets hard these days: Fuck, sometimes it is...
it is hard. But easy to make a record.
Would love to have seen them try back then...
put a band together?
The eighties made the rest of the worl aware of Brazil.
A lot of what I am today i owe to punk.
I am not racist or anything.
I think punk offered an instant education...
that your parents could not provide, see what I mean?
The best in punk has nothing to do with violence...
or fighting, and the good stuff is the DIY spirit.
I think the great contribution of punk...
was to give hippies a lesson in style.
The soul of punk is still alive in that it is feeding...
generations of bands who have a certain sound.
After punk, all the upheaval that rock went through...
this move back to the roots...
all had to do with punk.
we managed to see out mistakes and learn from them.
We made mistakes, many of them...
no doubt on that...
but never with bad intent.
I dedicated my life to Punk...
and although...
it did produce good stuff for all...
for me I want nothing. for me nothing.
As say the old zapatistas, the old indians...
FOR ME NOTHING, FOR US ALL EVERYTHING.
SlD VlClOUS DEAD. FIRST PUNK HERO
Punk started off as a rebellion.
It was really entertaining, when I first started...
to go with the hippies, some weird crowd...
from Plaza de la República, I was making necklaces...
and a hippie nicked my cloth...
the one on which all my stuff was laid out...
all the gear you work with, so what happened?
I became a Rebel.