Thursday, August 9 - Evening Edition


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>> >>DWANE: TONIGHT ON KPBS EVENING EDITION, THOUSANDS FLOCK TO COUNTY BEACHES TRYING TO
ESCAPE TEMPERATURES IN THE 90S AND 100S. AND TONIGHT'S CHARGERS GAME IS A HISTORY MAKER
NO MATTER WHAT THE FINAL SCORE ALL BECAUSE OF ONE WOMAN.
>> >>PEGGY: AND A CORPORATE TAX TRANSPARENCY BILL IS HEADED TO THE STATE SENATE.
WE'LL HAVE BOTH SIDES IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. PLUS A PASSIONATE INTERVIEW WITH A SUPPORTER
AND AN OPPONENT WITH EAST COUNTY'S CONTROVERSIAL TULE WIND PROJECT.
>> >>DWANE: POLITICS AND PHILANTHROPY ARE A TRICKY COMBINATION.
PLANS TO MAKE OVER BALBOA PARK ARE JUST THE LATEST EXAMPLE.
WE'LL LOOK AT THE TOUGH QUESTIONS IT RAISES. KPBS EVENING EDITION STARTS NOW.
CAPTIONS PROVIDED BY ECAPTIONS. >> >>DWANE: GOOD EVENING, THANKS FOR JOINING
US. I'M DWANE BROWN.
CALIFORNIA'S POWER GRID OPERATORS ASKING CUSTOMERS TO GO EASY ON ELECTRICITY FOR THE NEXT FEW
DAYS. EXCESSIVE HEAT IS PUTTING EXTRA DEMAND ON
A SYSTEM ALREADY STRAINED BY THE SHUT DOWN OF THE SAN ONOFRE NUCLEAR PLANT SO A FLEX
ALERT HAS BEEN ISSUED THROUGH SUNDAY ASKING PEOPLE TO TURN THE THERMOSTAT UP TO 78 AND
AVOID USING MAJOR APPLIANCES IN THE AFTERNOON. THE HOT WEATHER SENT A LOT OF FOLKS TO THE
BEACH TODAY WHERE TEMPERATURES WERE IN THE UPPER 70S ALONG THE COAST.
THAT WAS 10 TO 20 DEGREES COOLER THAN THE INLAND AREAS.
LIFEGUARDS SAY THE CROWDS HAVE BEEN THINNING UP TO NOW BECAUSE SCHOOL IS ABOUT TO START.
>> >>: THERE'S A HEAT WAVE GOING ON AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULDN'T NORMALLY
COME TO THE BEACH THAT ARE HERE. BOARD WALKS ARE PACKED, THE BEACH IS PACKED,
REAL ESTATE IS AT A PREMIUM AND THE LIFE GUARDS ARE BUSY.
>> >>DWANE: SO HOW HOT WAS IT? HERE'S A LOOK AT SOME OF THE TEMPERATURES AT ABOUT 2:30ハP.M.
THIS AFTERNOON. 114 DEGREES IN THE DESERT, 90 IN POWAY, 79
DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO, AND WE HAD SOME WEIRD WEATHER TOO A.THUNDER STORM DROPPED HEAVY
RAIN AND A HALF AN INCH OF HAIL NEAR PALOMAR MOUNTAIN.
SAN DIEGO IS UNDER UNDER A HIRING FREEZE UNTIL IT CREATES A 401K PROGRAM FOR NEW CITY EMPLOYEES.
IT'S A REQUIREMENT OF THE VOTER APPROVED PENSION REFORM LAW.
THERE IS AN EXCEPTION FOR HIRING NEW POLICE OFFICERS. THE CITY IS WORKING WITH ITS EMPLOYEE
UNIONS TO DEVELOP THE NEW PENSION PLAN. CITY SERVICES COULD BE AFFECTED IF THERE'S
NO AGREEMENT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. CALIFORNIA'S ATTORNEY GENERAL IS SUING A MAJOR
VETERANS CHARITY ACCUSING ITS DIRECTORS OF MISUSING PRIVATE DO DONATIONS.
PAMELA HARRIS SAYS LEADERS OF HELP HOSPITALIZED VETERANS TOOK FUNDS AND USED THEM FOR PERKS
LIKE PENSIONS AND GOLF MEMBERSHIPS. THE GROUP IS BASED P IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY.
ITS WEBSITE SAYS IT PROVE PROVIDES THERAPEUTIC ARTS AND CRAFTS MATERIAL.
THE LAWSUIT SEEKS TO RECOVER MORE THAN 4ハMILLION DOLLARS.
TOP 1% OF CHARITIES IN THE NATION FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT RAISES EVERY YEAR.
THE CHARGERS ARE PLAYING THEIR FIRST PRE SEASON GAME TONIGHT AGAINST THE GREEN BAY PACKERS.
THE TAILGATING STARTED EARLY THIS AFTERNOON, PACKED BY 4:00ハP.M.
THE GAME IS A SELL OUT. AND A HISTORY MAKER TOO.
KPBS REPORTER KYLA CALVERT JOINS US FROM THE NEWS CENTER TO EXPLAIN WHY.
KYLA, TELL US ABOUT SHANNON EASTON AND HOW SHE MADE IT INTO TONIGHT'S OFFICIATING CREW.
>> >>KYLA: SHANNON IS THE FIRST WOMAN TO OFFICIATE AN NFL GAME.
NORMALLY SHE OFFICIATES COLLEGE GAMES. SHE'S BEEN REFFING FOOTBALL FOR ABOUT 16 YEARS
AND TONIGHT SHE IS OVER SEEING THE PACKERS CHARGERS GAME AS A TEMPORARY REPLACEMENT.
THE NFL HAS LOCKED OUT ITS NORMAL REFEREES OVER A SALARY AND BENEFITS DISPUTE. AND UNTIL
THAT DISPUTE IS OVER, EASTON WILL BE PART OF THE TEMPORARY POOL OF FILL INS.
>> >>DWANE: SO YOU KIND OF ANSWERED THE QUESTION, BUT IS THIS A ONE TIME THING? WILL FOOTBALL
FANS SEE MORE OF HER? >> >>KYLA: THEY WILL SEE MORE OF HER WHILE
THE LOCK OUT LASTS, BUT EVEN ONCE THE DISPUTE IS OVER, THERE ARE SEVERAL WOMEN IN THE PIPE
LINE ON THE WAY TO BECOMING PERMANENT F NFL OFFICIAL
>> >>DWANE: ALL RIGHT, KPBS REPORTER KYLA CALVERT.
AND JUST BEFORE HALF TIME, THE CHARGERS ARE LEADING THE PACKERS, 14 NOTHING.
A NEW STUDY SAYS STRICT AIR POLLUTION LAWS ARE HELPING TO CLEAR THE AIR IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
THE FEDERALLY FUNDED STUDY SAYS THE REGULATIONS HAVE LEAD TO CLEANER CARS AND CLEANER FUELS.
IT SAYS THE LEVEL OF SOME POLLUTANTS WAS CUT IN HALF FROM 2002 THROUGH 2010.
SOLANA BEACH IS THE FIRST CITY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY TO BAN PLASTIC SHOPPING BAGS.
THE COASTAL CITY WANTS TO PROMOTE A MORE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY WHILE REDUCING PLASTIC WASTE HARMFUL
TO BEACHES AND MARINE LIFE. THE LAW GOES INTO EFFECT TODAY AND SPECIFICALLY BANS SINGLE
USE PLASTIC. ALL OTHER RETAILERS IN THE AREA WILL HAVE
TO DO SO BEGINNING IN NOVEMBER. NOW STORES ARE CHARGING 10 CENTS FOR A PAPER
BAG TO ENCOURAGE CUSTOMERS TO BRING REUSABLE BAGS.
THE BAN WILL EVENTUALLY COVER 160 STORES IN SOLANA BEACH.
>> >>: PEOPLE DON'T RECOGNIZE, THEY DON'T SOMETIMES RECOGNIZE THAT THE TAX PAYER VZ
TO PAY THE COSTS TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS PLASTIC. IT GOES INTO OUR OCEAN HERE THROUGH THE STREAMS
INTO THE OCEAN, IT'S HARMFUL TO SEA LIFE, IT'S BAD FOR TOURISM WHEN YOU SEE PLASTIC
IN THE OCEAN AND ON THE BEACHES. >> >>DWANE: ABOUT 50 CITIES IN CALIFORNIA
HAVE BANNED THE USE OF PLASTIC BAGS. HOWEVER, PRODUCE AND RESTAURANT BAGS ARE NOT
SUBJECT TO THE LAW. A MAJOR WIND ENERGY PROJECT HAS GOTTEN APPROVAL
FROM COUNTY SUPERVISORS. PEGGY PICO TAKE AS CLOSER LOOK AT WHO'S FOR
AND AGAINST IT. >> >>PEGGY: THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
GRANTED PERMITS YESTERDAY TO THE TULE WIND PROJECT WHICH COULD CONSIST OF MORE THAN 125
WIND TURBINES ON ABOUT 700 ACRES IN SAN DIEGO'S EAST COUNTY AND THE PROJECT WILL ADD NEW TRANSMISSION
LINES TO DELIVER THE CLEAN ENERGY TO 60,000 HOMES IN THE COUNTY.
IN SUPPORT THE PROJECT IS TULE DEVELOPER HARLEY MCDONALD OF IBERDROLA RENEWABLES AND OPPOSE
SD DONNA TISDALE, CHAIR OF THE BOULEVARD PLANNING GROUP.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE. HARLEY, TELL US ABOUT THESE TURBINES D SCRIBE
THEM FOR US AND WHY THEY WERE ARE GOING TO GO ON THIS SITE.
>> >>HARLEY MCDONALD: THE TURBINES ARE MODERN TECHNOLOGY, THEY'RE APPROXIMATELY 420 FEET
TALL, WE HAVEN'T CHOSEN WHAT TURBINE TECHNOLOGY AND THE 420ハFEET IS FROM THE BASE OF THE
TURBINE TO THE BLADE AT THE 12ハO'CLOCK POSITION. WE CHOSE THIS AREA BECAUSE IT HAS WIND AND
IT'S ONE OF THE FEW PLACES LEFT IN CALIFORNIA THAT STILL HAS WIND VIABLE FOR A UTILITY SCALE
PROJECT. >> >>PEGGY: DONNA, YOU'RE OPPOSED TO THE WIND
TURBINES. YOU HAVE A FEWハ AT LEAST TWO MAIN CONCERNS
ONE OF THEM BEING HEALTH. TELL ME WHY WHAT SEEMS PRETTY INNOCUOUS THESE TALL WIND MILLS
ARE A HEALTH CONCERN. >> >>DONNA TISDALE: UM, THEY EMIT LOW FREQUENCY
NOISE, VIBRATIONS THAT CAN BE MEASURED UP TO 10, 11 MILES AND THEY ALSO PRODUCE ELECTRICAL
POLLUTION THROUGH STRAY VOLTAGE THAT'S DISCHARGED INTO THE GROUND AND MIGRATES INTO PEOPLES'
HOMES. >> >>PEGGY: YOU'VE HEARD SOME STUDY OR LOOKED
INTO SOME STUDIES ABOUT THIS. >> >>DONNA TISDALE: I'VE WE'VE GOT TURBINES
EXISTING IN OUR COMMUNITY NOW MAKING PEOPLE SICK AND COMPLAINT COME COMING IN FROM AT
LEAST A THREE MILE RADIUS. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE BEFORE
ANYBODY ELSE APPROVES ANY OTHER TURBINES SO CLOSE TO HOMES WHICH THEY'RE DOING HERE AND
IN OUR REGIONAL PARK. >> >>PEGGY: HARLEY, YOU ALSO YOUR COMPANY
ALSO HAS LOOKED AT SOME OF THE HEALTH IMPACTS OF THESE.
TELL ME ABOUT WHAT YOU FOUND OUT. >> >>HARLEY MCDONALD: ABSOLUTELY. HEALTH STUDIES
HAVE BEEN DONE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND WE HAVEN'T FOUND STUDY THAT HAS BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN
AND PEER REVIEWED. WHAT WE CAN ONLY DO IS GO ON WHAT THE SCIENCE
SAYS. THE TURBINES WE GOT APPROVED YESTERDAY WITH THE COUNTY IN COUNTY'S JURISDICTION ARE
GOING TO BE AT LEAST ONE MILE AWAY FROM THE NEAREST RESIDENCE.
>> >>PEGGY: ASIDE FROM THE HEALTHハ >> >>DONNA TISDALE: EXCUSE ME, THAT'S INCORRECT.
THERE'S A LOT OF VALID SCIENCE PEER REVIEWED AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND WHAT YOU'RE NOT
LOOKING FOR. SO IN MY OPINION AND WHAT MY RESEARCH, WHAT
THE WIND INDUSTRY DOES, AND EVERYBODY SUPPORTS IT, IT BORDERS ON FRAUD AND CONSTRUCTED FRAUD.
>> >>PEGGY: OKAY, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENCES OF OPINION HERE.
LET'S TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE FIRE CONCERNS. I WANT TO ASK YOU, HARLEY FIRST. THERE WERE
SOME FIRES THAT WERE CAUSED BY TRANSMISSION LINES HERE IN 2008 AND 2009. WHAT ARE YOU
DOING WITH THESE NEW TRANSMISSION LINES, IF ANYTHING, TO PREVENT FIRES OR TRY TO PREEMPT
THAT FROM HAPPENING. >> >>HARLEY MCDONALD: OUR TRANSMISSION LINES
WILL BE APLIC COMPLIANT, THE AVIAN POWER LINE INTERACTION COMMITTEE.
THE LINES ARE SPACED A LITTLE FURTHER APART FROM THE POLES SO THEY DON'T TOUCH WHICH IS
WHAT CAUSED THE FIRES BEFORE AND IT DOES HELP AVOID ANY AVIAN IMPACTS.
BUT MORE THAN THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THE COUNTY FIRE AND RURAL FIRE TO COME UP WITH AN INCREDIBLY
ROBUST FIRE PROTECTION PLAN AND YESTERDAY IN THE COUNTY MEETING, THE FIRE GROUP SAID
THAT IT'S STATE OF THE ART AND THEY WERE HAPPY WITH IT.
>> >>DONNA TISDALE: A RETIRED CALIFORNIA BATTALION CHIEF DISAGREE WOULD THAT, AND IBERDROLA'S
HAD AT LEAST THREE FIRES SINCE MAY ON TURBINES THAT THEY OWN.
>> >>PEGGY: OKAY, AND THE FIRE IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN TO YOU, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT
STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THE THE COUNTY BE POWERED BY 30% OF RENEWABLE ENERGY BY 2020.
>> >>DONNA TISDALE: ALL THAT COULD BE DONE ON ROOFTOPS AND PARKING LOTS AND COMBINED
HEAT AND POWER. I THINK YEARS AGO THE NAVY WANTED TO GET OFF
THE THE GRID, GO COMBINED HEAT AND POWER, AND SDG&E FOUGHT IT BECAUSE THEY GET PAID
OVER 11% RATE OF RETURN ON INFRASTRUCTURE. THEY LIKE BIG AND REMOTE PROJECTS THAT HAVE
LOTS OF INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS PROJECT DOESN'T HAVE POWER PURCHASE AGREEMENT YET, YOU HAVE
TO ASK THEM WHY. >> >>PEGGY: ARE YOU AGAINST ALL TURBINES OR
JUST TURBINES IN EAST COUNTY? >> >>DONNA TISDALE: WE WELCOMED THE KUMAYAY
TURBINES WHEN THEY FIRST CAME INTO OUR COMMUNITY. WE THOUGHT THEY WERE CLEAN AND GREEN.
THAT HAS BEEN FAR FROM REALITY, MY RESEARCH SHOWS I WOULD NOT WANT THEM ANYWHERE NEAR
PEOPLE WITHIN AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX MILES AND NOT ANYWHERE NEAR ENDANGERED SPECIES OR SENSITIVE
AREAS. THEY'RE IN MY OPINION HIGH COST, LOW VALUE,
NOT NECESSARY. >> >>PEGGY: SO HARLEY, WHERE DO YOU GO FROM
HERE? >> >>HARLEY MCDONALD: WE HAVE A COUNTY PERMIT,
SO NOW WE NEED TO GET BUILDING PERMITS AND EVENTUALLY WE ARE WORKING ON THE PERMITS FOR
STATE AND AND TRIBAL LAND AND WE HOPE TO START CONSTRUCTION SOME TIME IN THE NEXT YEAR.
>> >>PEGGY: AND HOW ABOUT FOR YOU R YOU GOING TO FIGHT THIS IN COURT?
>> >>DONNA TISDALE: WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF OUR OPTIONS NOW AND ACT ON EVERY ONE WE CAN.
>> >>PEGGY: THANK YOU BOTH FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS TODAY.
YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON THE TULE WIND PROJECT BY GOING TO OUR WEBSITE KPBS.ORG.
CAPTIONS PROVIDED BY ECAPTIONS. >> >>DWANE: LAWYERS FOR COLORADO SHOOTING
SUSPECT JAMES HOLMES SAY HE IS MENTALLY ILL AND THEY WANT MORE TIME TO ASSESS HIS CONDITION.
SAN DIEGO NATIVE IS ACCUSED OF KILLING 12 PEOPLE AND INJRLING 58 OTHERS DURING THE PREMIERE
OF THE NEWEST BATMAN MOVIE. COURT PAPERS SHOW HOLMES WAS UNDER A PSYCHIATRIST'S
CARE BEFORE THE SHOOTINGS. SIXTY SEVEN YEARS AGO, THE U.S. DROPPED AN
ATOMIC BOMB ON THE JAPANESE CITY OF NAGASAKI. TODAY'S ANNIVERSARY WAS REMEMBERED IN SAN
DIEGO. THE MEMORIAL ON SHELTER ISLAND INCLUDED SURVIVES
FROM NAWK NAGASAKI AND HIROSHIMA. >> >>: IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TAKE A DAY TO
THANK FOR FRIENDSHIP AND PEACE AND REMEMBERING THE PAST AND HISTORY.
NOT FOR THE BLAME, NOT FOR THE CRITICISM, BUT JUST LEARNING FROM THE PAST AND ALSO NOT
WASTING THE VERY VALUABLE LIFE THAT WERE LOST. >> >>DWANE: THE JAPANESE SURRENDERED SIX DAYS
AFTER THE BOMBING OF IF NAGASAKI. ALLIED LEADERS SAY WITHOUT THE ATOMIC BOMBS
MANY MORE LIVES WOULD HAVE BEEN LOST IN THE INVASION OF JAPAN.
SAN DIEGO, LIKE MANY OTHER CITIES, INCREASINGLY RELYING ON PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS TO
HELP GET THINGS DONE, BUT IT'S ALSO RAISING SOME DIFFICULT QUESTIONS FOR PEOPLE INVOLVED
IN THE PROCESS. KPBS METRO REPORTER KATIE ORR TAKE AS CLOSER
LOOK. >> >>KATIE: THE WORLDS OF POLITICS AND PHILANTHROPY
COLLIDED EARLIER THIS SUMMER WHEN THE SAN DIEGO CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A CONTROVERSIAL
PLAN TO REVAMP PARTS OF BALBOA PARK. >> >>: THAT MEASURE PASSES SIX TO ONE.
>> >>KATIE: THE MAN BEHIND THE PLAN IS BILLION AIR QUALCOMM FOUNDER IRWIN JACOBS.
SOME PRAISE JACOBS OTHERS BLASTS HIM FOR USING HIS MONEY TO GET WHAT HE WANTS.
BUT JACOBS IS CERTAINLY NOT THE ONLY TO WEIGH IN ON THE FUTURE.
PHILANTHROPY HAS LONG PLAYED A ROLE IN SHAPING SAN DIEGO.
WHETHER THE GIFTS COME FROM EVERY DAY CITIZENS OR BIGGER DONORS.
TALKS ABOUT RENOVATING BALBOA PARK HAS START AD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ROLE PHILANTHROPY
PLAYS IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THE NAMES OF INFLUENTIAL MEN HAVE GRACED BUILDINGS
AROUND TOWN. BUT UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO HISTORY PROFESSOR
IRIS INNING STRAND SAYS BACK IN THOSE DAYS PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA MONEY SO
THEY WEREN'T REALLY PHILANTHROPIC, THEY WERE BUSINESS MEN TRYING TO MAKE A PROFIT.
THE FIRST WAS A WOMAN, ELLEN, BROWNING SCRIPPS. >> >>: SHE SPENT MOST OF HER TIME TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WAYS TO HELP THE CITY AND THE NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUM, SCRIPPS INSTITUTION OF OCEANOGRAPHY,
SCRIPPS HOSPITAL. >> >>KATIE: TODAY THE NAME SCRIPPS CAN BE
EASILY FOUND AROUND TOWN ALONG WITH THE NAMES COPLEY, PREIVUS AND OF COURSE JACOBS.
WHILE THESE HIGH PROFILE DONORS RECEIVE A LOT OF ATTENTION, CHARLENE PRIOR WITH THE
SAN DIEGO FOUNDATION SAYS THE MAJORITY OF GIVING COMES FROM EVERY DAY PEOPLE SUPPORTING
CAUSES CLOSE TO THEIR HEARTS. SHE SAYS THAT'S EVIDENT IN THE CONNECTIONS
THE FOUNDATION MAKES BETWEEN PEOPLE AND CHARITIES. >> >>: 1800 RELATIONSHIPS OF ALL SIZES, SHAPES
AND COLORS AND FORMS, ANDS. >> >>KATIE: PRIOR SAYS RELIGION GENERALLY
TOPS THE LIST OF CAUSES PEOPLE DONATE TO. HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT ISSUES ARE ALSO POPULAR,
AND ARTS AND CULTURE ARE GROWING. LAURA AGREES THAT SOMETIMES CAUSES GET TRENDY.
SHE'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER FOR NON PROFIT AND PHILANTHROPIC RESEARCH
AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SAN DIEGO. SUCH TRENDS CAN BE TRICKY FOR GOVERNMENTS.
FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT NOW PRICE CHARITIES IS FOCUSING A LOT OF RESOURCES ON SAN DIEGO'S
CITY HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD. WHILE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS RECEIVING MUCH
NEEDED ATTENTION, OTHER AREAS WITH SIMILAR NEEDS AREN'T AS LUCKY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH AS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS BECOME MORE
COMMON. >> >>: THE RULE BOOK ISN'T REALLY WRITTEN
FOR THAT. I THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE
ON PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND POLITICIANS JUST LIKE ANY SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP OR ANYBODY THAT
COMES WITH BIG MONEY, BE IT A CORPORATION OR A LOBBYING GROUP OR WHAT NOT FOR THOSE
PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO REALLY HOLD THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST AT THE FOREFRONT AND TO BE THE GUARDIAN
OF THAT. >> >>KATIE: BUT WHAT BEING A GUARDIAN MEANS
IS UP FOR DEBATE. THAT WAS MADE CLEAR AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
ABOUT MAKING OVER BALBOA PARK. FOR MORE THAN FIVE HOURS THE PUBLIC PASSIONATELY
TESTIFIED ABOUT BOTH THE POTENTIAL HARM AND BENEFITS A BYPASS ROAD AND PARKING GARAGE
COULD BRING TO THE PARK. IN THE END, THE COUNCIL VOLTED TO APPROVE
THE RENOVATION WITH MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS SAYING IT WAS BOTH A GOOD MOVE FOR THE PARK AND AN
OPPORTUNITY THE CITY COULDN'T PASS UP BECAUSE OF JACOBS' INVOLVEMENT.
CRITICS SAY THE COUNCIL WAS PUSHED INTO A BAD DECISION BECAUSE OF JACOBS MONEY.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A DIFFERENT KIND OF CONVERSATION. >> >>: WHAT WE NEED I THINK AT THE GOVERNMENT
RIGHT NOW, GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND NON PROFIT LEADERS SITTING DOWN AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT
AREハ LISTENING, FOR ONE, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS, NOT MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE NEEDS
ARE IN OUR VARIOUS COMMUNITIES, HOW DO WE BEST ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS AND WORK TOGETHER.
>> >>KATIE: AS GOVERNMENT BUDGETS SHRINK AND COMMUNITY NEEDS GROW, IT'S A QUESTION CITIES
WILL LIKELY BE ASKING THEM SIVEL AS LOT IN THE FUTURE.
>> >>DWANE: KPBS METRO REPORTER KATIE ORR, WE ALSO WANT TO NOTE IRWIN JACOBS IS A MAJOR
SUPPORTER OF KPBS. SUPPORTERS OF A STATE PROPOSAL DEMANDING TAX
TRANSPARENCY FOR LOCAL AND PEGGY PICO HAS MORE.
>> >>PEGGY: IT'S NO SECRET THAT SOME OF THE NATION'S BIGGEST CORPORATIONS PAY LITTLE OR
NO INCOME TAX. ACCORDING TO THE TAX PAYER ADVOCACY GROUP
CITIZENS FOR TAX JUSTICE, THE U.S. TREASURY LOSES ABOUT 55ハBILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN
CORPORATE TAX REVENUE. SEVENTEEN MAJOR CORPORATIONS IN CALIFORNIA
PAID NO INCOME TAX BETWEEN 2008 AND 2010. SAN DIEGO CORPORATE OFFICES INCLUDED ON THAT
LIST ARE COMPUTER SCIENCES CORPORATION, CONWAY, WRITER SYSTEM, VERIZON, WELLS FARGO, AND HONEY
WELL. A STATE WOULD COALITION CALLED REFUND CALIFORNIA
WANTS TO LET CONSUMERSES KNOW WHICH COMPANIES ARE NOT PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE IN TAXES.
HERE TO TALK ABOUT CORPORATE TAX LAW AND THE BILL HEADED TO THE SENATE IS DAVID LAGSTEIN
OF SAN DIEGO'S ALLIANCE OF CALIFORNIANS FOR COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT, AND WITH A SPECIALTY
IN TAXATION IS U OAS ASSOCIATE OF PROFESSOR AT SDSU STEVEN GILL.
DAVID, WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THE RALLY THIS MORNING AT SEMPRA TO HIGH LIGHT THIS ISSUE?
>> >>DAVID LAGSTEIN: A LOT OF HOME OWNERS, COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS WEPT TO SEMPRA BECAUSE
THEY WERE PUZZLED AND OUT RAGED. THEY MADE A BUN $1.1ハBILLION PROFIT LAST
YEAR, AND YET IN 2010 THEY DIDN'T PAY ANY STATE TAXES, IF YOU AD UP THEIR 50 STATES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I THINK THE IDEA IS WE ACTUALLY WANT TO KNOW
HOW MUCH THEY PAID IN TAXES, WHAT CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES THEY BENEFITED FROM BECAUSE
THE IMPACT ON OUR STATE BUDGET IS SO DEVASTATING. >> >>PEGGY: I WANT TO TAKE A QUICK MOMENT
TO SAY WE ASKED SEMPRA FOR A COMMENT ON THIS BUT THEY WERE UNABLE TO RESPOND TO US IN TIME
BY OUR DEADLINE. THIS LEAVES ME TO ASK YOU, STEVEN, DO TAX
LAWS FAVOR CORPORATIONS LIKE SEMPRA? >> >>STEVEN GILL: I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY
FAVOR CORPORATIONS. THE TAX LAW IS A FUNCTION OF WHAT THE LEGISLATURES DECIDE TO WRITE.
FAVORITISM WOULD BE RELATIVE TO SOME OTHER STANDARD.
I THINK THAT WE'VE SEEN SINCE THE ECONOMY'S GONE DOWN, A RELATIVELY PRO GROWTH BUSINESS
ORIENTED TAX CODE THAT'S TRYING TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.
OF COURSE THAT COMES AT A COST. >> >>PEGGY: DAVID, GIVE US THE CLIFF NOTES
OF THE VERSION OF THIS TAX TRANSPARENCY BILL THAT'S HEADED TO THE SENATE, AB2439.
>> >>DAVID LAGSTEIN: THE TAX TRANSPARENCY BILL IS VERY SIMPLE.
THEY ARE NOT REQUIREDハ CORPORATIONS ARE NOT REQUIREDハ AND THESE ARE MAJOR PUBLICLY
SHARED CORPORATIONS, NOT MOM AND POP STORES THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE THE AMOUNT OF
STATE TAXES THEY PAY TO GIVE LEGISLATURES AND THE PUBLIC THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO
MAKE FAIR TAX POLICY. >> >>PEGGY: EARLIER YOU SAID YOU REALIZED
SEMPRA HADN'T PAID THEIR TAXES IF THERE'S NO DOCUMENTATION HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY
PAID OR HAVEN'T PAID? >> >>DAVID LAGSTEIN: IT'S CONFUSING AND I
BET THE PROFESSOR CAN EXPLAIN. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE'S SOME AGGREGATE
DATA AVAILABLE BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE REPORTED AMONG ALL 50 STATES AND IN 2010 THAT AGGREGATE
REPORT SAID THAT PAID ZERO DOLLARS IN TAXES. WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS SPECIFICALLY HOW MUCH
THEY PAID IN CALIFORNIA, AND EVEN THAT FIGURE IT'S A CALCULATION BY PROFESSORS AND IT'S
NOT A REAL NUMBER WE COULD WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND SO WE COULD MAKE GOOD POLICY AS TO
PASSING A REVENUE BUDGET THAT IMPACTS THE COMMUNITY IN THE WAY WE NEED.
>> >>PEGGY: STEVEN, EVEN IF WE DID HAVE ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS, HOW CAN CORPORATIONS THAT
MAKE MILLIONS OR BILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAY LITTLE OR NO TAXES? IS THERE A TAX LOOPHOLE?
>> >>STEVEN GILL: WELL, LOOP HOLES ARE A PEJORATIVE STATEMENT, I THINK.
TAX EXPENDITURES ARE THE STATEMENT WE USE. >> >>DAVID LAGSTEIN: I PREFER GIVE AWAYS BUT
THAT'S OKAY. >> >>STEVEN GILL: THE CODE IS BUILT WITH SOME
OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUSINESS. CLEARLY, ONE IS FOREIGN PROFITS, THAT'S BEEN
A POINT OF CONTENTION WITH POLICY MAKERS FOR SOME TIME.
THINGS LIKE CREDITS FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, THINGS LIKE ACCELERATED DEDUCTIONS FOR INVESTMENTS
IN CAPITAL. SO THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CORPORATIONS
TO IN FACT LOWER THEIR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE. WHAT YOU WOULD FIND TYPICALLY OVER THE LONG
RUN, HOWEVER, IS THAT BARRING THE FOREIGN EARNINGS BEING LEFT OFF SHORE, THE AMOUNT
OF TAXES THAT A CORPORATION PAYS START TO APPROACH WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT TOO THEM TO
PAY FROM THEIR STATUTORY RATE PERSPECTIVE ANYWAY.
>> >>PEGGY: SAYING THERE'S NO LOOP HOLES, DAVID FIRST I'LL ASK YOU, LET'S SAY THE SENATE
BILL GOES THROUGH AND CONSUMERS KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S PAYING OR NOT PAYING, WHAT DO
WE DO ABOUT IT? >> >>DAVID LAGSTEIN: IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAKE
GOOD TAX POLICY AND PART OF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE POWER OF THE LOBBYISTS.
THE CORPORATIONS SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS AND LOBBYISTS TO TRY AND WRITE
TAX CODE THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THEM. WE THINK MORE INFORMATION AND MORE TRANSPARENCY
WILL PUT CORPORATIONS IN A PLACE WHERE THEY'LL NEED TO BETWEEN THEIR CAMPAIGN DONORS AND
CREATING A BUDGET THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT CONSTRUCTIVELY. >> >>PEGGY: STEVEN WOULD IT BE EASIER TO CHANGE
TAX LAW? >> >>STEVEN GILL: ACCESS TO THIS DATE IF THEY
CHOOSE TO COLLECT IT. I THINK MORE OF WHAT HAPPENS WE DEVELOP A
LIST AND IT STARTS TO FEEL LIKE A WITCH HUNT. WHETHER IT'S INTENDED TO OR NOT, HOW MANY
INNOCENT CORPORATIONS DO WE SWEEP IN. >> >>PEGGY: ALL RIGHT, STEVEN AND DAVID THANK
YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE. >> >>PEGGY: IN OUR PUBLIC SQUARE TONIGHT A
FEW COMMENTS ABOUT MY INTERVIEW ON SAN DIEGO'S FIRST HEAT WAVE OF THE SUMMER WITH TIPS ON
HOW TO CONSERVE ENERGY THE COUNTY'S 100 COOL ZONES AND STAYING HEALTHY IN THE HEAT.
IT WAS 97 DEGREES BY NOON AT THE RAMONA AIRPORT YESTERDAY.
STILL, PEKING DUCK SAYS LOCAL MEDIA INCLUDING KPBS MAY BE OVER REACTING.
AM I CRAZY OR IS IT REALLY NOT THAT HOT? THIS SEEMS PLEASANTLY WARM TO ME.
BUT GOOD TO HEAR HELP EXISTS FOR THOSE IN DISTRESS.
UTILITY PLEAS TO CONSERVE ENERGY INCLUDING TODAY'S FLEX ALERT IS AN UNWELCOMED SIGN OF
A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM WROTE ROCHELLE BECKER. SAN DIEGANS ARE TIRE OFFED BEING VICTIMS OF
POOR SCE, NRC, AND CPUC DECISION MAKING. SAN DIEGO'S REPRESENTATIVES, LOCAL AND STATE
SHOULD DEMAND THEY PROVIDE FUNDING TO HELP REPLACE SAN ONOFRE WITH POWER CREATED WITHIN
SAN DIEGO. YOU CAN HEAT UP THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOUR
OWN COMMENTS BY FOLLOWING US ON TWITTER, FACEBOOK, OR E MAIL US AT PUBLIC SQUARE @ KPBS.ORG.
>> >>DWANE: RECAPPING TONIGHT'S TOP STORIES WE'RE IN FOR MORE EXCESSIVE HEAT TOMORROW.
HIGH TEMPERATURES DROVE A LOT OF FOLKS TO THE BEACHES TODAY.
LIFE GUARDS SAY THEY WERE KEPT VERY BUSY WITH RESCUES.
HERE'S A LOOK AT SOME OF TODAY'S TEMPERATURES AROUND THE COUNTY.
AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING CONTINUES THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT.
SAN DIEGO IS UNDER A HIRING FREEZE UNTIL IT CREATE AS 401K PROGRAM FOR NEW CITY EMPLOYEES
A REQUIREMENT OF THE VOTER APPROVED PENSION REFORM LAW.
THERE IS AN EXCEPTION FOR HIRING NEW POLICE OFFICERS. THE CITY IS WORKING WITH ITS EMPLOYEE
UNIONS TO DEVELOP A NEW PENSION PLAN. CITY SERVICES COULD BE AFFECTED IF THERE'S
NO AGREEMENT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND THE CHARGERS ARE FACING THE GREEN BAY
PACKERS IN THEIR FIRST PRE SEASON GAME TONIGHT. IT'S ALSO THE FIRST TIME A WOMAN HAS REFEREED
AN NFL GAME. SHANNON EASTON IS PART OF A GROUP OF REPLACEMENT
REFS BECAUSE THE REGULAR REFEREES ARE LOCKED OUT IN A LABOR DISPUTE WITH THE NFL.
AND RIGHT NOW THE CHARGERS ARE LEADING THE PACKERS 14 17 AT THE HALF.
AND YOU CAN FIND TONIGHT'S STORIES ON OUR WEBSITE, KPBS.ORG/EVENINGEDITION.
THANKS FOR JOINING US, YOU HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. CAPTIONS PROVIDED BY ECAPTIONS.