Informal 05/24/11 Work Session - Norfolk City Council


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>>> DR. >> WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL OF A COUPLE
THINGS. WE HAVE THE SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
REDRAWING OF THE BOARD LINE TO COMPLY WITH THE RECENT CENSUS, REQUIREMENT.
THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY ON THE 14TH WE HAVE SCHEDULED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE SCHOOL
BOARD APPOINTMENTS. ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SERVE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD,
THEIR NAME HAS TO BE MENTIONED AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS OF THE PRESENT SCHOOL BOARD WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR REAPPOINTMENT,
THEY ARE JAMES, KIRK AND KAREN, AND STEVEN. >> THAT'S FOUR.
>> THAT'S FOUR. WHAT DID I SAY?
>> THREE. >> FOUR, I'M SORRY.
AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING WE SCHEDULED TIME FOR THE FOLLOWING WEEK TO DO INTERVIEWS OF
FOLKS WHOSE NAMES HAVE BEEN PLACED IN NOMINATION AND THEN WE WILL SCHEDULE ON THE 28TH TO ACTUALLY
APPOINT AS THE CODE REQUIRES, WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SCHOOL BOARD APPOINTED BY JUNE 30TH, SO
WE WILL DO THAT ON THE 28TH. PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 14TH, SCHOOL BOARD INTERVIEWS
ON THE 21ST AND THEN VOTE ON THE 28TH. OKAY.
CITY MANAGER? >> IN THE FUTURE, CAN WE DO THAT A LITTLE
BITTER EARLIER? I MEAN IF FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE COME DOWN
AND INTERVIEW, DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA, WE ARE KIND OF STUCK ON THE 28TH TO NOMINATE
SOMEBODY. >> WE ARE STUCK ON 14TH, YOUR NAME HAS TO
BE PLACED. >> CAN WE BACK UP THE PROCESS?
>> SURE. >> IF THE CITY ADVERTISES THAT, CAN WE ADVERTISE?
IT. >> PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE --
>> SCHOOL BOARDS, IS THERE A SPECIAL ADVERTISMENT FOR THAT?
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> MR. MAYOR, TONIGHT WE HAVE THREE ITEMS
ON THE INFORMAL, ONE IS AN UPDATE ON FLOODING, AND I WILL SAY THAT AS WE HAVE GONE TO -- WET
ARE MEETING THE SECOND TUESDAY AND FOURTH TUESDAY, ONE OF THE FUNDING COMMITTEES, THE
FLOODING PRESENTATION IS COMING OUT OF THE STRUCTURE MEETING AND TODAY WE HAVE AN UPDATE
ON THE SUMMARY REVIEW PROGRAMMING WHICH ACTUALLY IS COMING OUT OF THE COMMITTEE THAT MET ABOUT
AN HOUR AGO, HEALTH, EDUCATION AND FAMILIES, THIS IS AN UPDATE TO THE COUNCIL.
WE WILL MAKE SURE EACH FRIDAY IF NOT BEFORE YOU WILL GET ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS FROM
THE VARIOUS COMMITTEE MEETINGS. WITH THAT SAID WE HAVE FLOODING.
>> YOU DID A NICE JOB OF BRINGING THAT STORM IN HERE.
>> WE DID THAT TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ISSUE.
I'D LIKE TO START BY INTRODUCING SOME PEOPLE WHO HELPED WITH THE PRESENTATION AND ARE HERE,
WE ASKED SOME OF OUR CONSULTANTS, TOMMY AND KYLE SPENCER.
JOHNNY AND JOSH HILL FROM MOUNT NICKEL AND BOB AND FOREST ROBINSON, ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE
KRISTEN WHO ACTING DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS STARTED ALL THE FLOODING STUDY.
ALICE AND JOHN ARE OUR STORMWATER ENGINEERS. THE PURPOSE OF OUR PRESENTATION IS TO REVIEW
THE CAUSES OF THE FLOODING INTO SIT, PRESENT STRATEGIES FOR HANDING FLOODING IMPACTS.
FLOODING, OF COURSE, IS GLOBAL, AND LOCAL PROBLEM, THE CITY HAS WORKED ON FLOODING FOR
MANY YEARS. THERE ARE SOME KEY POLICY AND FUNDING STRATEGIES
TO MEET FLOODING WE FACE IN THE FUTURE YEARS I WILL DISCUSS.
FLOODING CAUSES AND IMPLICATIONS IN THE CITY OF NORFOLK, WE EXPERIENCE FLOODING FROM RAIN
FALL OR TIDES OR COMBINATION OF BOTH. WE ARE LUCKY WE DON'T HAVE FLOODING FROM RIVERS
AS SOME OTHER CITIES DO OR ON THE MISSISSIPPI. PRECIPITATION OR RAIN FALL FLOODING COMES
WHEN THE RAIN EXCEEDS THE CAPACITY OF OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM AND NO MATTER WHAT MAN BUILT
IN TERMS OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM, EVENTUALLY NATURE WILL COME UP WITH A STORM THAT IS GREATER
SIZE THAN THE SYSTEM HAS CAPACITY TO HANDLE. THE OTHER PART IS TIDAL OR COASTAL WHICH ARE
CAUSED BY TIDE VARIATION OR STORM SURGES, RELATED DIRECTLY TO LAND ELEVATION AND PROXIMITY,
CITY OF NORFOLK HAVE PARTICULAR VULNERABILITY. NORFOLK HAS BOTH THINGS.
WE HAVE 100 OUT FALLS IN THE BAY FROM OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM AND MANY OF THEM ARE PARTIALLY
SUBMERGED SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE TOP HALF OF THAT PIPE IS ALL THAT IS AVAILABLE
TO HANDLE THE STORMWATER FLOW BECAUSE THE BOTTOM IS FILLED UP WITH TIDAL WATER.
AND THEN IF YOU GET A HIGH TIDE, USUALLY HIGH TIDE THAT PIPE CAN FILL UP EVEN MORE AND THAT
FIRST RESTRICTION CAPACITY OF THE SYSTEM WILL HANDLE THE RAIN FALL FLOODING, WE WILL SEE
IT WITH SOME OF OUR MORE SEVERE STORMS IN THE CITY.
PRECIPITATION FLOODING, NEARLY ALL OF OUR PLANNING DISTRICTS EXPERIENCED SOME LEVEL
OF FLOODING WITH THE STORM WE JUST HAD, THERE IS FLOODING IN THE CITY, WE ARE A FLAT LEVEL
SIT, MANY AREAS HAVE NO CURB, GUTTER COLLECTION, THE CITY WAS BUILT MANY YEARS AGO WITHOUT
SUCH THINGS. MANY TIMES THE SYSTEM MAY HAVE BEEN ADEQUATE
WHEN BUILT BUT SUBSEQUENT BUILDING IN OUR CITY CAUSES IT TO EXCEED SYSTEM CAPACITY.
OUR NEW AND REPLACING STORMWATER STRUCTURE IS DESIGNED FOR 10-YEAR STORMS, TO DO LARGER
THAN THAT WOULD RESULT IN GREAT EXPENSE, VERY LARGE PIPES AND SO FORTH, IT'S NOT PRACTICAL
FOR WHERE WE ARE. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE 10-YEAR STORM THERE IS
THE POSSIBILITY AT LEAST ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS YOU GET SOMETHING THAT EXCEEDS THAT AND THAT
IS, AGAIN, FOR THE NEW AREAS WHENEVER WE REBUILD A NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, I MENTIONED A WHILE AGO TIDAL FLOODING AND PRECIPITATION TOGETHER EXACERBATES THE
PROBLEM. THIS SHOWS AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN GREEN
OF THE MORE SEVERE FLOODING, THERE ARE OTHERS BUT THESE ARE THE WINS WHERE WE SEE LARGER
PROBLEMS WHEN IT COMES, THERE IS NOT MUCH IN THE SALT WATER SYSTEM.
TIDAL FLOODING HAS OCCURRED MORE FREQUENTLY IN RECENT YEARS AS THE EARLIER PRESENTATION
IN AUGUST EXPLAINED, WE HAVE SEEN A RISE IN TIDAL LEVELS OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS OF A FOOT.
THIS TREND CAN BE EXPECTED CONTINUE, BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO THE RISE OF SEA LEVEL WE HAVE
SUBSIDING IN OUR AREA, GREATER WEATHER EVENT, THE SEA LEVEL RISES.
THIS IS A FEMA MAP THAT SHOWS THIS IS BASED ON INSURANCE CLAIMS THAT SHOWS AREAS WHERE
WE HAVE REPETITIVE CLAIMS, YOU CAN READ IT THERE BUT DR. WHIBLEY SHOWED, TIDE WATER EXPERIENCED
SEVERE FLOODING. OUR CHALLENGES IS AS THE SEA LEVEL RISES,
THE EXTENT AND DURATION OF FLOODING WILL GIVE US GREATER AND GREATER CHALLENGES, AND LIMITATIONS
ON OUR EXISTING STORMWATER SYSTEM IS MORE SIGNIFICANT.
FLOODING WILL WORK WHEN ADDITIONAL ACTIONS ARE TAKEN, WE ARE DOING SOME THINGS RIGHT
NOW, IT IS AN ISSUE. THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE OUT THERE THAT IS NOT
PART OF THIS BRIEFING BUT THERE ARE SOME INCREASED WATER QUALITY THAT EPA ADDS TO THE BURDEN.
MITIGATION OPTIONS, THE CITY HAS BEEN PROACTIVE IN RECOGNIZING THE STORMWATER ISSUES SINCE
1992, WE CREATED AN ENVIRONMENTAL STORMWATER PROGRAM, DONE A COUPLE STORMWATER MASTER PLANS
LOOKING AT DRAINAGE AND PIPE SYSTEMS, WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF STORMWATER UPGRADES IN 2007
WE HIRED A FIRM TO DEVELOP COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR COASTAL FLOODING, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT
IN GREATER LENGTH IN A MINUTE. THIS IS DEDICATED CAPITAL FUNDING THAT THE
CITY HAS FOR STORMWATER. MOST OF THE $3.5 MILLION IS IN THE STORMWATER
FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET, YOU SEE THERE IS $1.5 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND MONDAY THAT
HAS BEEN PUT IN IN RECENT YEARS FOR FLOODING, THAT'S A TOTAL OF $5 MILLION, BUT AS YOU WILL
SEE WE HAVE NEEDS THAT EXCEED $100 MILLION, SO THAT PRESENTS QUITE A CHALLENGE THAN THIS
AMOUNT OF FUNDING CAN HANDLE. THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THIS FUNDING
IN ADITHER TO JUST DEALING WITH FLOODING. WE HAVE REPLACED PUMPS IN THE DOWN STREAM
STAINSES, WE HAVE INCREASED CAPACITY IN UNDER PASSES, THERE IS FLOODING RIGHT NOW THAT WE
WILL GET A GENERATION OUT THERE BUT THERE ARE THINGS WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH WATER QUALITY
PROJECTS. >> ONE MORE TIME, HOW MUCH MONEY DID WE SPEND
ON A YEARLY BASIS ON STORMWATER FLOOD CONTROL. >> STORMWATER CAPITAL PROGRAM IS $5 MILLION,
THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ONGOING PROJECTS, FROM A SIRES OF THINGS, WE ARE SPENDING ABOUT $5
MILLION NOW. $3.5 IS STORMWATER.
>> AND FROM TIME TO TIME WE GET OTHER GRANTS THAT WILL HELP, RIGHT?
>> YES, SIR. OCCASIONALLY, AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE SOME OTHER
SPECIFIC PROJECTS. WHENEVER WE REDEVELOP AN AREA, INCLUDED IN
THAT IS A STORMWATER SYSTEM IN THE STREET. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE
IMPROVE THE SYSTEM. >> BEYOND THAT WE DEDICATE FUND FOR SAND REPLACEMENT?
>> YES. >> $2 MILLION THIS YEAR.
>> MAYOR, YOUR POINT, THIS IS ALMOST, LIKE I SAID, THE BEAR MINIMUM THAT WE HAVE EVERY
YEAR, THERE COULD BE A PROJECT IN THE CIP THAT COULD BE IDENTIFIED AS A MILLION, MILLION
AND A HALF. I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER TO COME BACK AND
SHOW YOU A 10-YEAR TIME FRAME AND EVERYTHING THAT IS INCLUDED IN IT.
>> THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE. >> NOW, THIS TALKS ABOUT THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE
IN THE CITY, WE HAVE 10 OR SO UNDER PASSES, PUMP STATIONS.
AVERAGE AGE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS 60 YEARS, MUCH OF IT IS BEYOND ITS AGE, BUT EVEN THOUGH
IT MAY ONLY BE 60 YEARS OLD, IT MAY BE INADEQUATE CAPACITY BUT WE ARE DOING A LOT OF THINGS
LIKE SLIP LINING EXISTING PIPES TO KEEP THEM SERVICEABLE.
MAPPING, MASTER PLAN, COASTAL STUDIES, NUMBER OF UPGRADES AND REPLACEMENTS.
ONE EXAMPLE, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT GOES BEYOND THAT $5 MILLION, VERY GOOD SUCCESS STORY IS
FAIRMONT PARK. IN FAIRMONT PARK, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH
IT, THE STREETS WERE IN TERRIBLE SHAPE, THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WENT IN WITH A WATER
AND SEWER PROJECT AND WE PART NERD WITH THEM TO PUT IN ABOUT $18 MILLION TO REBUILD THE
STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM, ALSO PUT IN NEW CURBS, GUTTERS AND SIDE WALKS AS THE GOAL TO TOTALLY
REBUILD STREETS, YOU SEE THE SIZE OF THE INVESTMENT, OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY NEED SOMETHING SIMILAR.
THIS IS WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS RED DOTS IN PLACES IN THE CITY WHERE THERE
ARE STORMWATER PROJECTS IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST RECENT ONES.
PUTTING A PUMP STATION OUT AT WILOBY. THERE WAS SAND PUT OUT FARTHER TO DEAL WITH
FLOODING. COLONIAL PLACE, STARTING AT OTHER PLACES IN
THE SIT. JUST UP TIDE WATER DRIVE WE ARE RAISING STREETS.
REPLACING PUMPS AND DID REPAIRS IN THE FLOOD BALL GATES.
ALL OF OUR PUMP STATIONS IN THE CITY, WE HAVE REPLACED PUMPS AND ALSO HAVE EMERGENCY GENERATOR
CAPABILITY, SOME PLACES WE HAVE GENERATORS ALREADY, OTHERS WE HAD THE CAPABILITY OF MOVING
TOWARD HAVING BETWEEN RATERS AT THOSE. WE RECENTLY CLEANED OUT THE BOX CULVERT, I
WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, IT WAS HEAVILY SILTED AND WE SPENT HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS TO CRAWL IN THERE AND GET THE SILT OUT OF IT.
THE COLEMAN PLACE AREA, WE ARE SEEING IMPROVEMENTS ON ORANGE AND CAPE HELP EVERY AND MONTCLAIRE,
WE HAVE RAISED SOME STREETS TO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE.
INTERESTING THING ABOUT SOME OF THESE LIKE WILLOBY PUMP STATIONS, THEY PROVIDE LIMITED
RELIEF, THEY DON'T PROVIDE RELIEF FROM THE 10 OR 20 YEAR STORM BUT THEY DO PROVIDE RELIEF,
IN CASES PEOPLE BEING FLOODED, PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO GET TO THEIR HOMES MANY TIMES
A YEAR. DOING SMALLER SCALE, WE ARE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE
THAT. WE HAVE VARIOUS OPTIONS TO CONTINUE TO DO
PROJECT SUCH AS THAT AS WELL AS THE MACRO PROJECT IN SOME CASES, TOTALLY REBUILD THE
SYSTEM. COASTAL FLOODING, THIS IS -- WE HAD THE STUDY
RECENTLY DONE AND WE LOOKED AT FOUR WATER SHEDS TO FOCUS ONTO DETERMINE A RANGE OF OPTIONS
THAT COULD BE USED FOR FLOOD RELIEF. I'M TALKING ABOUT THESE OPTIONS IN TERMS OF
THE FOUR BASICS, BUT THE SAME PRINCIPLES APPLIED THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WE REPORTED TO YOU
LAST AUGUST. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS YOU CAN DO THAT
ARE MENTIONED IN THE STUDY, EDUCATION OF PEOPLE. WE FOUND IN SOME AREAS OF THE CITY PEOPLE
HAVE MOVED IN, SOLD HOMES AND DIDN'T REALIZE THEY WERE IN AN AREA THAT FLOODED.
THERE ARE LAND USE AND GOVERNMENT POLICY THINGS THAT WE CAN DO SOME ZONING REGULATIONS, DEVELOPMENT
REQUIREMENTS. WE ALREADY HAVE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FLOOR
ELEVATIONS FOR NEW HOUSES AND STRUCTURES THAT GETS MOST OF THEM ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN FOR
A HUNDRED YEAR STORM. WHAT WE SEE IN MUCH OF THE FLOODING IS IF
YOU HAVE GARAGES, CRAWL SPACES UNDER BUILDINGS, CAR PORTS THAT HAVE BUILT IN THAT FLOOD, SO
MANY TIMES WHEN WE HEAR ABOUT FLOODING LOSSES FROM PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THOSE TYPES
OF THINGS, ANOTHER POSSIBILITY WOULD BE ELEVATION REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDERS.
FLOOD PROVING SOME ELEVATIONS, WE HAVE DONE SOME RAISING OF HOUSES AND ALSO FOUNDATION,
MECHANICAL AND STRUCTURAL REQUIREMENTS. WE CAN PLACE LIMIT ON WHAT IS UNDER THE CRAWL
SPACE IN THE HOUSE, NOT DAMAGED, AIR CONDITIONERS SHOULD BE AT A HIGHER RATE.
YOU CAN BUY PROPERTY IN LOW AREAS AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INFRASTRUCTURE APPROACHES,
MAJOR THINGS YOU COULD DO. NOW, THE FIRST ONE HERE IS STRUCTURES OR BARRIERS,
THESE WORKING AREAS WHERE YOU CAN BUILD A GATE OR A FLOODED WALL OR BERM, TYPICALLY
WHEN DO YOU THAT HALF TO DEAL WITH STORMWATER THAT WILL COLLECT BEHIND THE WALL SO TYPICALLY
THEY HAVE A PUMP STAIS ONE THEM SO YOU GET -- STATION ON THEM SO YOU GET --
>> WOULD YOU PUT UP A FLOOD WALL? >> THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES, I'LL TALK ABOUT
THAT IN A WHILE. STORMWATER SYSTEM DEALING MOSTLY WITH RAIN
FALL FLOODING OR RETENTION BONDS. RETENTION BONDS WORK FOR RAIN FALL FLOODING,
THEY DON'T HELP FOR TIDAL FLOODING, INCREASING THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM CAPACITY, RAISING ROADS,
THERE WERE SOME FEMA GRANTS SOME 20 HOUSES IN THE SIT WERE RAISED TO HIGHER ELEVATION,
WE HAVE DONE PROJECT WE HAVE RAISED ROADS TO LET PEOPLE GET TO THEIR HOMES A LITTLE
EASIER. TIDE GATES, WE EVALUATED DIFFERENT TYPES OF
TIDE GATE OPTIONS, STEEL GATES, DAMS, THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT NEED TO COME INTO THIS
IS FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE NAVIGATIONAL REQUIREMENTS. YOU MATE WANT TO PUT A FLOOD SYSTEM ACROSS
THERE, BUT YOU HAVE BOATS THAT WANT TO COME IN AND OUT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GATE.
TIDAL FLOW BECOMES AN ISSUE, IF YOU PUT A DATA CROSS SOMETHING LIKE PRETTY LAKE, YOU
WILL BE CHANGING THE AMOUNT OF TIDAL FLOW THAT COMES IN AND OUT WHICH COULD AFFECT QUALITY
OF THE WETLAND AND SO FORTH, THE WATER, SO THERE ARE CHALLENGES THERE FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL
STANDPOINT. THERE IS HIGH INITIAL CAPITAL COST, YOU ALSO
HAVE TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE HAVE IS RELIABLE BECAUSE IF ONE OF THESE FAILS YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT
PROBLEM. IT SHOWS A FEW OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, REALLY
THE STEEL GATE OPTION ON THE LEFT THAT TURNS OUT TO BE THE MOST PRACTICAL WE HAVE HERE.
WE LOOKED AT THESE FOUR AREAS BASED ON GEOGRAPHICS, AND GEOGRAPHIC SETTINGS, A COUPLE OF THE AREAS
WITH NATURAL CONSTRUCTION POINT LIKE PRETTY LAKE AND THE HAIG, OTHER SPECIFIC MITIGATION,
NATION CREEK AND THERE ARE AREAS WE HAVE HAD RECURRING DAMAGE AND COMPLAINT ABOUT FLOODING.
WHAT THEY DID WAS USE THE GSA MODELING BASED ON FEMA MODELING THAT PROVIDE STANDARD COMPARISON
THAT WILL SERVE AS WELL AS WE MIGHT DO THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
THEY USE TIDE GATE RESULTS, THEY HAVE DONE DETAILED COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, WE HAVE MORE
INFORMATION ON THAT, NOT SHOWING MUCH OF IT, WE COMPARE THE COST OF THE PROJECT, DAMAGES
THAT ARE AVOIDED BY FLOODING OF HOMES AND SO FORTH, THEY IDENTIFIED COST OF CAPITAL
PROJECT, COST OF PROPERTY PURCHASES WHERE THAT WAS APPROPRIATE AND VALUE OF MONEY.
YOU KNOW, THIS SHOWS THE MODELING IS BASED ON THE FINISHED FLOOR ELEVATION OVER ON THE
ONE ON THE FARTHEST ON THE RIGHT, YOU SEE THE FLOOR ELEVATIONS, LOCAL FLOOD LEVEL ON
THE LEFT, WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THE SECOND ONE FROM THE RIGHT IS A SITUATION WHERE THE
FINISHED FLOOR ACE ABOVE THE FLOOD LEVEL BUT THE CRAWL SPACE IS NOT, THE GARAGE, YOU GET
IN A SITUATION WHERE OFTEN WHEN YOU HEAR OF FLOODING IN AREAS THAT IS HEAVILY WHAT IS
HAPPENING, SO YOU HAVE TO CON SID THEAR AS WELL.
THIS IS A LITTLE BUSY BUT IT SHOWS MORE WATER SHED TOP LINE, GLOBAL STRUCTURES COULD POTENTIALLY
BE FLOODED, THE TOTAL STRUCTURES WITHIN THE BASIN, THE NEXT TWO SHOW THE POTENTIAL DAMAGES
OF A 10 YEAR OR 100 YEAR STORM IN TERMS OF FLOOD DAMAGES TO THE HOMES, AND THE BOTTOM,
THE HAIGE AND PRETTY LAKE DO NOT HAVE ANY PROTECTION RIGHT NOW.
MESA CREEK AND HIGHER CREEK DO, THAT PROVIDES A COUPLE SITUATIONS.
>> IT SEEMS IT WOULD BE RETENTION. YOU KNOW IT IS, IT'S A RETENTION POND.
>> I'M NOT SAYING IT NOT. >> BUT WE'VE GOT IT HERE, YOU HAVE IT UNDER
TIDAL HERE, RIGHT? THIS IS A TIDAL MAP.
>> NO, WE ARE TALKING TIDAL AND RAIN FALL. >> BECAUSE MASON CREEK RIGHT NOW, I BET IF
WE WENT IN THEIR BACK YARDS, YOU CAN IMAGINE WHERE THAT RAIN IS RIGHT NOW, NOT TIDAL.
>> WE ARE SPEAKING OF TIDAL AND RAIN FALL FLOODING.
>> OKAY. >> SO, THAT IS WHERE THE ISSUE IS IN MASON
CREEK IS FROM THE RAIN FALL FLOODING. >> RIGHT, IT IS RAIN FALL.
>> TIDAL, WE CAN SEAL IT OFF. >> RIGHT.
THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY AND TRAGEDIES, THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PROJECT, I'VE MENTIONED
SOME PROJECTS WE'VE DONE IN THE BOTTOM TWO AREAS, THE TOP ONES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE
EXPENSIVE, FLOOD WALLS AND PUMP STATIONS OR PUTTING IN NEW DRAINAGE SYSTEMS LIKE WE DID
IN FAIRMONT PARK WHICH ARE EXPENSIVE. THERE ARE SMALLER THINGS WE CAN DO, STORMWATER
RETENTION PONDS, EXTEND OUT FLOW CREEKS LIKE WE DID IN OCEAN VIEW, PURCHASE INDIVIDUAL
PROPERTY AND THEN YOU GET DOWN WHERE YOU HAVE SOMETHING AFFECTED BY ONE OR TWO HOMES OR
STREET OR SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN DO SOME LESS EXTENSIVE REPAIRS AND THE BOTTOM TWO AREAS
ARE THINGS WE ARE DOING RIGHT ALONG AND THE TOP ONES ARE A REAL CHALLENGE.
I WANT TO MENTION A COUPLE PROJECT, THIS IS SUMMARY FOR EACH WATER SHED THE PROJECT RECOMMENDED
BY THE STUDY, AND IN EACH CASE THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF A PHASE AND PROCESS, IT NEEDS
TO BE REFINED IN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALLY. THE HAIGE, THE RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE OF THE
NARROW INLET OF FLOOD WALL A TIDE GATE WOULD WORK WELL, YOU NEED A PUMP STATION TO HANDLE
STORMWATER BEHIND IT AND ALSO NEED CLOSURE WALLS EXTENDING BEYOND THIS OPENING AT THE
BRIDGE HERE. YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE PUMP
STATION RIGHT HERE, THIS IS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FLOOD GATES RIGHT THERE, THE SITUATION
IS THERE ARE ALSO SOME LOW AREAS FOR EXAMPLE ALONG BRAMBLETON AVENUE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE
100 FLOOD MAP, IT WOULD GET BACK TO MASON. IF YOU WANTED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WALLS
ALONG THESE AREAS TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PROTECTION TO THE FULL WATER SHED.
BUT THAT IS A VIABLE PROJECT, COULD BE DONE. IF YOU WANT THE TIED TO HAVE NAVIGATIONAL
ACCESS. >> JOHN, GO BACK.
I KNOW THIS IS A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT IF WE WERE TO GO TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ARE
YOU GOING TO TRY TO COME UP WITH AN ACTION PLAN FOR US?
I MEAN, BECAUSE THE FLOOD WALL, HOW FAR BACK DOES -- WOULD THAT RELIEF THE FLOODING?
TAKE IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO -- WHAT IS THE INTERSECTION THERE?
>> THAT'S THE WATER, AS WATER IS FORCED INTO THE RIVER AND FORCED, IT GOES IN THERE BECAUSE
SOMEBODY TOLD ME IT CAN'T, IT GOES INTO THE HAIGE AND OTHER RAINWATER TRYING TO COME OUT
HAS NO PLACE TO GO. >> RIGHT.
>> IF THE FLOODING EXTEND NOT JUST IN THE HAIGE BUT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO PRINCESS
ANN, ALL THE INTERSECTIONS GET CLOGGED ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN, WE COULD GET SOME RELIEF
IF WE DID THE FLOOD WALL NOT JUST FOR THE HAIGE BUT FOR THOSE OTHER INTERSECTIONS TOO.
>> YES, SIR. >> THAT IS THE -- THE RIVER WILL GO WHERE
IT CAN GO SO WE WILL HAVE TO NOT LET IT GO, AND, SO, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 50% SPREAD OR 100%
SPREAD ACTUALLY, DOES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ARE THEY PEOPLE WHO CAN PARTNER WITH US ON
SOMETHING LIKE THIS? >> THEY CAN, BUT, FRANKLY, WHAT WE HAVE SEEN
IS LESS AND LESS MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT IN RECENT YEARS.
A PROJECT OF THIS NATURE -- >> WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT?
WOULD THE CORPS BE WILLING TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT?
>> YES, THEY ARE BUT THEIR MONEY IS A PROCESS. >> WHAT ABOUT NEW ORLEANS?
WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE STATE? >> IT A COASTAL STATE.
>> WHY DON'T WE GET OUR CONGRESSIONAL GUYS OR SENATORS AND BE PROACTIVE THAN REACTIVE
THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE. >> THE LAKE IS A PRETTY SIMILAR SITUATION,
ALONG THE INBOUND TIDAL FLOW IN THE BRIDGE, PUTTING A FLOOD WALL WITH A TIDE GATE AND
PUMP STATION, WE WOULD NEED TO RAISE SOME ROADS, YOU CAN SEE IN THE RED OR PINK HERE
RAISING SOME OF THE ROADS FROM SHORE DRIVE BACK TO THE SOUTH AND ALONG PRETTY LAKE AVENUE
TO HELP WALL OFF SOME OF THE AREAS OF FLOODING THAT WOULD HAVE A TIDE GATE THERE.
THIS WOULD BE AN AREA WHERE THERE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE EXTEND
OF THE BASIN AND WATER AND PRETTY LAKE, WE WOULD HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR THE IMPACT, THE
TIDAL FLOW IN AND OUT. WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A GATE HERE FOR NAVIGATION.
>> SIMPLE QUESTION, MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS FROM AN ENGINEER PERSPECTIVE, BUT WHY
ON THAT SIDE OF THE BRIDGE CANNOT THE OTHER SIDE WHICH SEEMS TO HAVE A SMALLER GAP, WE
OWN THE LAND ON THAT SIDE AND IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE TAKING OUT THE RESTAURANT.
>> THIS IS ON THE INBOUND SIDE. WE OWN LAND ON EITHER SIDE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE IS A RESTAURANT ON THE SOUTH.
>> WE OWN LAND ON THE NORTH SIDE? >> SOME OF IT, YES.
>> OKAY. >> WELL, THAT'S GOOD, WE OWN PROPERTY ON THE
SOUTH SIDE. >> BUT IT COULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
>> YOU KNOW ... BOTH THE HAIGE AND PRETTY LAKE ARE SIMILAR,
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EXISTING PREVENTION AGAINST TIDAL SURGE, FLOODING IS WIDESPREAD, BUYING
UP PROPERTY, RAISING STRUCTURES WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT AND EXPENSIVE TO IMPLEMENT.
SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL INVESTMENT IS REQUIRED TAKING CAPITAL AGAINST COASTAL SURGE.
ON THE OTHER HAND WE LOOK AT THE BENEFIT COST RATIO, IT'S POSITIVE IN TERMS OF SAVINGS FROM
THIS PROJECT VERSUS POTENTIAL FLOODING. >> I TAKE IT WE WOULD ONLY USE IT A COUPLE
TIMES A YEAR. I KEEP HEARING CONCERN ABOUT THE QUALITY OF
PRETTY LAKE, BUT WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT HURRICANE-TYPE EVENT.
>> YOU MIGHT HAVE A NORESTER, BUT WET ARE TRYING TO STOP A CATASTROPHY, BUT WE ARE TRYING
TO PREPARE FOR A SIGNIFICANT EVENT. YOU WOULD ONLY CLOSE THE GATES --
>> PRETTY LAKE, THE GATE WOULD BE ALONG THE SPAN OF THE BRIDGE, THE CHANNEL IT IS NOW.
TIDAL FLOW IS COMING ON THIS SIDE. YOU COULD BUILD A WALL THAT WOULD NARROW THAT,
THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE. >> JOHN B.?
>> I KNOW WE GET INTO A STICKY ISSUE WITH THE MILITARY, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER OPEN PART
THAT GOES BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO THAT PART OF PRETTY LAKE, THAT MAYBE THE MILITARY MIGHT
BE INTERESTED AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME FUNNING OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE THEY'VE SUFFERED DAMAGE
FROM THE FLOODING THAT HAS COME IN, IT REALLY DOESN'T IMPACT AS MUCH PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S
BY THE BEACH, JUST TALKING ABOUT THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE LAKE.
>> YES, THAT IS AN OPTION IF YOU MOVE THE FLOOD WALL OUT TO THERE IT WOULD PROTECT SOME
NAVY PROPERTY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE TYPE OF PURSUING FEDERAL GRANTS
AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD PURSUE WITH THE NAVY.
MASON CREEK. NOW, MASON CREEK AND OHIO CREEK WHICH ARE
DIFFERENT TYPES OF WATER SHEDS. IT WAS RECOMMENDED THE PROJECT AT MASON CREEK
WOULD BE FOR WALLS BUILT AROUND THERE ELEVATING SOME STRUCTURES, YOU COULD BUILD CODE REQUIREMENTS
AND A PROJECT THAT WOULD WORK WOULD ALSO BE A PUMP STATION TO REMOVE THE RAIN FALL RUNOFF
WHEN THE STORM GATE IS CLOSED. JUST TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS WATER SHED WORKS,
I'LL GO OVER HERE. THIS IS THE NAVY RUNWAY AND THERE'S A CULVERT
THAT GOES UNDER IT, THERE'S A TIED GATE, IT KEEPS THE TIDE FROM COMING IN.
WHEN IT HAPPENS IT KEEPS THE RAINWATER FROM GOING OUT, WHEN WE HAVE COMBINATION OF HIGH
TIDE AND HEAVY RAIN WHEN WE HAVE A STORM, WE HAVE SITUATIONS OF FLOODING AROUND THERE,
SO THE POTENTIAL SOLUTION WOULD BE TO BUILD A PUMP STATION HERE WITH A PIPE DISCHARGING
THE WATER OUT ON THE RUNWAY, WE WOULD BE DEALING WITH NAVY PROPERTY THERE AND THAT IS A SOLUTION.
THIS BASICALLY SAYS THE SAME THING THAT WE SAID, MITIGATION OF THE PUMP STATION, STORM
DRAINS. IT LOWER HERE BECAUSE OF HOUSES INVOLVED.
OHIO CREEK, IT IS THE AREA UNDER NORFOLK STATE INCLUDING SMART VILLAGE AND BOOKER T. WASHINGTON
HIGH SCHOOL AREA. THE WAY THIS DRAINAGE BASIN WORKS IS THERE
IS A CULVERT THAT GOES UNDER THE INTERSTATE, THAT IS A PROBLEM, WE HAVE BOX CULVERT GOES
UNDER NORFOLK STATE AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THE RAIN FALL UP HERE EXCEEDS CAPACITY AND THAT
BOX CULVERT, THERE IS A TIDE GATE DOWN HERE THAT PREVENTS THE TIDE FROM FLOWING BACK IN,
BECAUSE YOU GET A SITUATION WHERE IF YOU HAVE IT CLOSED IT MAKES THE RAIN FALL WORSE.
THE SOLUTION HERE WOULD INVOLVE A PHASED APPROACH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 100 YEAR STORM IT ONE THING,
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE 50 YEAR STORM YOU SEE THERE ARE VERY VULNERABLE PROPERTIES IN THERE,
AND THE RECOMMENDED SOLUTION, EFFECTIVE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO BUY OUT THE MOST VULNERABLE PROPERTIES.
IF YOU WANTED TO TWO FURTHER YOU COULD PUT A PUMP STATION DOWN HERE, FINAL STAGE WOULD
BE TO ADD A CULVERT UNDER NORFOLK STATE, ANOTHER THAT WOULD BE PUSHED TO CAPACITY, SO THAT'S
A 3-PHASE PROJECT. THE DOWN STREET PIPE PROTECTS AGAINST TIDAL
SURGE, RAIN FALL FLOODING IS MOST SEVERE WE'VE SEEN IN THE SPARTAN VILLAGE AREA, MOST PROPERTY
PURCHASED WE COULD RECONSTRUCT ABOVE THE FLOOD PLANE, MOST OF THE SEVERE FLOODING.
THE PUMP STATION INSTALLED MAY NOT BE IN THE EXISTING CULVERT, SO IT WILL HAVE TO BE PHASED.
IN SUMMARY, THE PROJECTS WILL ALLEVIATE COASTAL FLOODING IN THE WATER SHED AREA ARE FEESIBLE
BUT EXPENSIVE. OUR 0 APPROACHES ARE TO PURSUE FEDERAL FUNNING,
TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO DO PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING STUDIES ON EACH WATER SHED TO FIND APPROPRIATE
FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. ALSO WE MAY NOT WANT TO PUT ALL OUR EGGS IN
THAT ONE BASKET, EXPLORE OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US AND THE THING THERE
IS TO CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT OF MODIFICATIONS IN GARAGES AND OUT BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES
LIKE THAT. THAT CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO, HOW FAR DO WE HAVE
TO GO, NORMALLY GO TO BE READY TO FORMALLY GO TO THE GOVERNMENT?
>> WE WOULD NEED ANOTHER PHASE OF THE ENGINEERING STUDY TO DO SOME UNDERGROUND SOIL INVESTIGATIONS,
DO SOME SURVEYS, YOU KNOW, ON THE ORDER OF A STUDY FOR EACH OF THE PROJECTS TO PREPARE
SOMETHING OF WHAT IT WOULD COST. >> DIDN'T WE JUST BUDGET 1.54 FOR THE STUDY?
>> YES. >> WE CAN PUT SOME OF THAT IN.
>> CAN WE MOVE AHEAD WITH THAT? >> I THINK WE DID IN THIS BUDGET.
>> 1.54 FOR FLOOD MITIGATION. IN TERMS OF HOW WE APROPOSE EVERY ATE THOSE
DOLLARS, THIS COULD BE USED, IT CAN BE USED. >> WE HAVE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE ARE
NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT IT. YOU MAKE A PERSUASIVE ARGUMENT THAT THE GOVERNMENT
THROUGH OUR SENATORS. >> WE HAD TWO AREAS IN THE BUDGET THAT WERE
ABOUT THE SAME. THOSE WERE FLOODING.
I REMEMBER ONE WAS ABOUT ONE-FIVE-FOUR TO PURSUE FURTHER WITH THE STUDY AND THEN THERE
WAS A SECOND THAT WAS ONE-SIX. >> ONE IS IN THE STORMWATER FUND AND THE OTHER
WAS IN THE GENERAL FUND. >> OKAY.
>> THE DESCRIPTIONS ARE SIMILAR, WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE PROJECTS.
>> ALL RIGHT, BUT THESE FOUR STUDIES, IT MY UNDERSTANDING, THESE FOUR AREAS WERE UNDER
ONE OF THOSE ONE POINT 5 MILLION DOLLARS WE JUST VOTED ON, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THAT WAS LAST YEAR. >> NO, THAT WAS 2012.
>> IT WAS $5 MILLION, 1.5 GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT, WE COULD USE THOSE
FUND FOR ANY TYPE OF STUDY TO PROCEED DOWN THIS PATH.
>> WE HAVE GOT THIS FAR. >> ACTUALLY IT HAS BEEN USED FOR DIFFERENT
THINGS. >> YES.
THERE ARE FRAGILE PROJECTS. >> WHAT I MEAN --
>> WHAT ACTION DO YOU NEED FOR US TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN?
THERE IS MONDAY A LOT IN THE BUDGET, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO NOW?
JUST TELL YOU TO DO IT? >> YOU SHOULD TELL YOU WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE
TOWARD THE GET RAL GOVERNMENT. >> WE NEED ACTION, WE'VE BEEN STUDYING FLOODING
FOR -- WE ARE GETTING MORE WATER IN THE CITY THAN BEFORE, NOW WE NEED AN ACTION PLAN TO
ADDRESS IT, BE SMART HOW WE SPEND OUR MONEY BUT COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS WITH PLANS WE
CAN GO TO THEM. WE DON'T HAVE $100 MILLION, THE CITY CAN'T
HOLD BACK THE OCEAN, WE -- YOU CAN DO SOME THINGS, WE'VE MENTIONED HERE, WITH SOME OF
OUR DOLLARS, BUT I GUESS IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHAT THE HISTORY IS OF THE CORPS AND
THE FEDS FUNDING THESE PROJECTS. BUT THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE IT A REAL PRIORITY.
>> I'M LIKE JAY, YOU CAN GET TO THE POINT, THAT'S WHY JOHN MENTIONED IT, PARTICULAR LAY
MASON CREEK BECAUSE MASON CREEK FUNCTIONS AS RETENTION POND, IT GOES IN THAT CREEK AND
IT ONLY ABOUT 6 INCHES DEEP, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS IN ONE
TIME WE GO TO THEM AND ASK FOR MONEY, I CAN FEEL IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, I BELIEVE WE WILL
GO TO THE FEDS, ASK FOR MONEY AND GET THE CORPS INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING AND THE MONITORING
OF THE CONTRACTS THAT WE WILL DO, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS ON AREAS
LIKE THE BERM AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE FLOW OF WATER QUALITY, WE WILL TURN AROUND AND
HAVE TO SUE THEM AND SAY WE NEED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE TO MAKE
IT OCCUR. BECAUSE THEY MAY HOLD UP ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL
SIDE OF IT, SAY, FINE, HERE'S YOUR MONEY AND WE CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE WE CAN'T PASS THE ENVIRONMENTAL
SIDE OF THE EQUATION AND THEN SUE THEM FOR IT.
>> I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT NOW. >> THANK YOU.
>> THAT'S BEEN A MASON CREEK ISSUE FOREVER, NOT JUST THE FEDS OR THE STATE AS WELL AS
FAR AS THEY ARE PRETTY FIRM NOT ALLOWING IT TO GET THAT FAR.
WE'VE CONSULTED -- >> WE HAD TO FILE SUIT OVER THAT TO MAKE IT
HAPPEN. >> A COUPLE THINGS, I THINK WE NEED TO GET
OUR CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS AND STATE LEADERS AND US AT THE TABLE, I DON'T THINK THAT HAS
HAPPENED, MARCUS, WHERE WE'VE HAD CONGRESSMEN, TELL GRATS AND US IN THE SAME ROOM TALKING
ABOUT FLOODING, AND I THINK IT IMPORTANT TO GETLY ONE AROUND THE TABLE -- GET EVERY ONE
AROUND THE TABLE SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR PART IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU ADDRESS A CONGRESS
MEN INDIVIDUALLY THEY TELL YOU IT A STATE ISSUE OR LOCAL ISSUE AND THEN YOU HAVE US
THAT WILL SAY IT A FEDERAL ISSUE, THAT WE NEED ASSISTANCE FOR IT, BUT I THINK IF WE
GET EVERYBODY TALKING THE SAME WAY, IF WE CAN BUILD A CASE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.
THE SECOND PART IS, AND BRIAN, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE HPDC HAS ENDORSED
A STUD THAT FORMER PRESIDENT COOK IS -- ENDORSED A STUDDIE THAT FORMER PRESIDENT COOK IS ENDORSED A STUDY, HE HAS LAID THE
FOUNDATION, THIS MAY BE IN YOUR HRPC TO ASSIST WITH SOME STUDIES WITH THIS AS WELL, I THINK
I VOTED ON THAT IF I REMEMBER A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THAT WE WERE APPROVING SOME MONEY FOR
THEM TO CONTINUE THIS STUDY. IF I CAUGHT YOU OFF, I'M SORRY.
>> VERY HIGH LEVEL STUDY AND THEY ARE REALLY NOT GIVING US THE DETAILS.
I THINK WE WOULD NEED MODIFICATIONS, WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO TO GET A HANDLE HOW
OUR HYDRAULICS WORK. >> I WILL SAY TWO WEEKS AGO I WAS AT A MEETING
WITH OUR CONGRESSIONAL GROUP REQUESTING FUNDS FOR THE CORPS TO BE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN HOW
OUR HYDRAULICS WORK AND THAT IS TO GET YOU IN A PRESET FOR FUTURE ALLOCATIONS.
WE REQUESTED $10 MILLION FOR FUNDING. IT DOESN'T MEAN WE QUIT, WE KEEP HAMMERING
AWAY AT IT AS WE CAN WORKING WITH OUR CONGRESSIONAL TELL GAYTION TO HAVE A PRIORITY ON THIS ISSUE.
>> THE FINAL PART IS THERE IS A REAL EASY SOLUTION NOW WHICH IS DEALING WITH OUR BUILDING
POLICY, WE JUST NEED TO STOP ALLOWING PEOPLE TO DEVELOP AND BUILD HOUSES IN PLACES THAT
FLOOD. PARTICULARLY IN EAST OCEAN VIEW.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT THOUGHT THAT THERE ARE JUST
PLACES WHERE WE SHOULD NOT BE BUILDING. >> TUESDAY N FEMA CONTROL WHERE YOU CAN PUT
THE HOUSES? >> THERE IS THE NOR OF THE -- THERE IS FOR
THE FLOOR OF THE LIVING SPACE, NOT WHAT IS BELOW.
>> WE CAN BE PROGRESSIVE, FRANK, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU ARE ON THE EDGE OF YOUR SEAT.
>> WE REQUIRE ONE FOOT ABOVE MINIMUM NEED ELEVATION, FROM FEMA THAT IS PART OF OUR REQUIREMENT.
WE DO NOT REQUIRE IT FOR THE GARAGES AND STORAGE SPACE AND JOHN HAS INDICATED IT IS A REQUIREMENT
IF YOU DO AN ADDITION, SO WE GET PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING AN ADDITION TO A HOME AND WE'RE
TELL THEM THE ADDITION HAS TO BE ONE FOOT ABOVE THE MINIMUM BASE FLOOD ELEVATION AND
THEY ARE TELLING US THE REST OF OUR HOME ISN'T BUILT THAT WAY, WE'RE SAYING SORRY, YOU WILL
HAVE TO ELEVATE IT. THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL ABSOLUTELY PREVENT BUILD
NOTHING THESE AREAS I BELIEVE WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE THE PROPERTY BECAUSE AT THAT POINT
YOU ARE DENYING ANY REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY.
>> CAN'T THERE BE AN EXCEPTION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE BUILDING ADDITIONS IF THEIR HOME WAS
BUILT PRIOR TO THE ONE FOOT ELEVATION REQUIREMENT? >> THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO FILE FOR A VARIANCE,
THEY ARE RARELY GRANTED AND WE DO HAVE TO REPORT EVERY ONE OF THOSE VARIANCES TO FEMA,
THAT DOES AFFECT OUR FLOOD INSURANCE RATES. >> I THOUGHT MY HOUSE IN EAST OCEAN VIEW,
I KNEW I WAS MOVING INTO A FLOOD PLANE, IT WAS THE SECOND HIGHEST, AS A YOUNG BUYER I
COULD TELL YOU I REALLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT, YOU HAVE TO DO IT, IT WILL COST YOU $50
A MONTH TO HAVE THIS, BUT MAYBE IT IS ALSO AN EDUCATION, PART OF THIS IS WHEN WE HAVE
BUYING INTO THESE AREAS, MAYBE THE CITY COULD BE PROACTIVE AND JUST INFORMING THEM -- I
MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SCARE PEOPLE AWAY BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN
DO AT THAT LEVEL. >> THE THING ABOUT IT, WHEN THEY GO TO PURCHASE
IT, THE MORTGAGE COMPANY TELLS THEM AND IF THEY HAVE, THE FEMA HAS FLOOD ZONE REQUIREMENT,
THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT, THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE IS LESS, THE HIGHER THE HOUSE
THE LESS FLOOD INSURANCE, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE FORECLOSED PROPERTIES WHERE IF THE BANK
OWN THE HOUSE THE BANK IS NOT REQUIRED TO GIVE ANY KIND OF REPORT FOR INFORMATION, SO
IF THE BANK SAYS IT IS AS IS, THEN IT REALLY IS UP TO THE HOME BUYER OR THE LENDER OR THE
AGENT WHEN WE HELP THAT FIRST TIME HOME BUYER GO TO PURCHASE THEIR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE,
THAT'S WHEN THEY FIND OUT. >> I'M THINKING WHEN SOMEBODY IS GIVEN A PERMIT
TO BUILD A HOUSE, I WAS FORTUNATE TO GET A DISCOUNT BECAUSE THAT HOUSE HAD 15 BEDS UNDERNEATH
IT WHICH GAVE ME MONEY OFF, BUT THERE ARE OTHER BUILDERS IN THAT AREA THAT PUT THE MINIMUM
REQUIREMENT THAT DID NOT GIVE THE DISCOUNT, DOESN'T GIVE THE DISCOUNT, BUT IF SOMEBODY
IS BUILDING A HOUSE KNEW THAT AND WAS EDUCATED ON IT BEFORE THEY WENT IN, MAYBE THAT WOULD
ASSIST WITH SOME OF THIS KNOWLEDGE THAT IS NEEDED.
>> STATE LAW ONLY REQUIRES US TO REQUIRE THE MINIMUM.
IN TERMS OF VENTS, WE CAN'T GO BEYOND THAT. THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES JOHN HAS ACKNOWLEDGED,
WE COULD GO ABOVE, IT WOULD REQUIRE ORDINANCE CHANGES, THESE ARE POLICY ISSUES, THESE BECOME
ORDINANCE ISSUES. >> I THINK YOU WILL FIND LIKE EAST OCEAN VIEW,
NEW HOMES ARE BUILT, AS FRANK SAID, THEY WON'T FLOOD ONCE YOU GET THE 100 FLOOD, I DON'T
KNOW WHAT THE BUILDERS TOLD THEM ABOUT THE GARAGES, SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION.
>> AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE GARAGES, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM WAS THAT
THE FLOOD DAMAGE WAS IN THE GARAGE WHICH WAS BELOW THE 10 FOOT, 9 FOOT, WHATEVER IT WAS
REQUIREMENT, AND, SO, THOSE THINGS WERE NOT COVERED BY FLOOD INSURANCE, AND THEN YOU HAVE
THE ISSUE WITH THE HOME INSURANCE SAYING THEY HAD FLOOD INSURANCE, SO THEY ARE CAUGHT.
THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE A LOT OF IDENTIFICATION NEEDS TO COME IN, WHAT IS COVERED AND NOT
COVERED. >> I CAN TELL YOU THE ISSUE AT MASON CREEK
IS IT CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE FEDS, AND THAT IS WHERE IT BOGGLES MY MIND WE CAN'T
GO ASK THE FEDS FOR MONEY. THE REASONS THE HOMES FLOOD IS BECAUSE THE
FEDS ENDED UP CLOSING THE CREEK AND PUT IN THE CULVERT AND THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO IT,
CASE WENT UP TO THE SUPREME COURT AND CAME BACK DOWN, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO IT.
WHAT HAPPENS NOW RAINWATER AS IT COMES IN IT FLOODS OUT.
IT'S UP TO THEM BECAUSE THEY CAUSED IT AND THEY HAVE THE CULVERT, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT
HAVE THE GATE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A PUMP STATION, I THINK IT'S AN EASIER SELL FOR FEDERAL
MONEY SPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE THE OTHER HALF OF THE CREEK.
THEY OWN THE OTHER HALF AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE IT WOULD BE EASIER TO SELL TO THEM AT
LEAST ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. >> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY, WE HAVE
THE FUNDING. WE CAN ASK FOR ASSISTANCE FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING STUDY.
>> WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING SMART ABOUT THIS, WE MAY JUST WANT TO BUY PROPERTY,
MAY BE THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE THING TO DO, BUY A FEW PROPERTIES THAT ARE MOST SEVERELY
IMPACTED, SPEND SOME OF THE DOLLARS THAT WAY. >> MAYOR, THAT IS ONE OF THE KEYS.
THAT IS FUND RELATED, IT AT CAPACITY. THERE ARE MORE CONSTRAINT FOR THE DOLLARS
THAT ARE TIED TO THE STORMWATER FUND, THE MILLION FIVE ANNUALLY FROM THE GENERAL FUND
GIVES US THAT CAPACITY TO PURCHASE PROPERTIES. >> SO I UNDERSTAND, IS THERE A TIME LINE FOR
YOU TO COME BACK AND TELL US PRICES, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW?
>> I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO, THE TIME LINE. >> SOME OF THESE AREAS MAY QUALIFY FOR CERTAIN
FUNDS, SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT? >> YES, PART OF WHAT WE WOULD NEED IS LOOK AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY FOR FUNDING.
>> TO GET INTO AN AREA, YOU TRY TO MAXIMIZE AS MUCH FEDERAL PARTICIPATION ALONG WITH CITY
FUNDING, TRY TO PIECEMEAL IT IN. [INAUDIBLE] CONTINUE THOSE PHASES GOING FORWARD,
SO, I WOULD HOPE AS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THESE FOUR PLAYERS, THAT YOU ARE SEARCHING TO MAXIMIZE
OUR POTENTIAL, WHATEVER, MAKING SURE WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENT ITSELF THERE IS WORK.
>> AS FAR AS THE STUDIES, WE WOULD DO THAT, PART OF WHAT WE WOULD DO IS LOOK AT THE PROJECT.
>> >> SOME OF THE HOMES IMPACTED, THE AREAS.
>> WHAT DARRELL IS GOING TO DO IS PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AVAILABLE,
WHAT I WILL SAY IS, I DON'T WANT TO STEAL GAIRL'S THUNDER, THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY THING
WE CAN DO, AS WE TALK ABOUT SYNERGY AND ALIGNING RESOURCES WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, PUBLIC
SECTOR, YOU WILL SEE THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO DO THINGS NOT JUST WITH THE CITY
BUT WITH OUR PARTNERS. >> WHAT I WANT TO DO IS PROVIDE AN UPDATE
ON OUR PROGRAMS AGE 13 TO AGE 17, I WANT TO GIVE YOU DETAILED ON OUR SUMMER PROGRAM OFFERINGS.
THE QUESTION WAS FOASD ME WHAT DO WE REALLY THINK 13 TO 17 YEAR OLDS DO AND WE WORK IN
COLLABORATION WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE PROGRAMMING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR
YOUTH. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS DIAGRAM, IT SHOWS CITY
DEPARTMENTS THAT PROVIDE PROGRAMS SUCH AS LIBRARIES, SUMMER READING PROGRAM, RECREATION
PARKS, WE HAVE A BUREAU OF SERVICES WHICH IS THE PROGRAM IN THE SUMMER MONTHS AND WE
HAVE CAMPS PROVIDED TO SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.
WE WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER AGENCIES SUCH AS YMCA, BOYS AND GIRLS PROGRAM AND NORFOLK
PUBLIC SCHOOL. YOU CAN SEE A CONGLOMERATION OF PROGRAMMING
GEARED TOWARD OUR TEENS IN THE SUMMER MONTHS. AGAIN, THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS TO PROVIDE
NEW ADVENTURES AND EXPERIENCES. AS YOU KNOW OUR CURRENT PROGRAMMING FOR SUMMER
CAMPS ARE USUALLY FOR AGES FIVE THROUGH 12 AND THAT IS BASED ON THE ACTUAL SIZE OF OUR
FACILITY, SO A LOT OF OUR FACILITY FROM 8:00 TO 5:30, ACTUALLY WE PROGRAM OUT FOR THE AGE
GROUP OF 5 TO 12, BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS WE HAVE
A COUPLE NEW INITIATIVES, WE WILL BE OPENING OUR RECREATION SERVICES UP AGE 13 TO 17 FROM
5:30 TO 8:00 AND WE HAVE NEW INITIATIVES AT THE CENTER AND AT THE TECHNOLOGY BUILDING.
PART OF THE WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH RECREATION AND PARKS WILL BE WORKING WITH
THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT THIS SUMMER AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR IS THE NORFOLK EMERGING
LEADERS PROGRAM WHICH IS A SERVE AND LEARN PROGRAM.
THIS IS TO PROVIDE JOB TRAINING AND SKILLS FOR OUR YOUTH IN THE CITY, AND CURRENTLY THAT
WILL EMPLOY 200 YOUTH THIS SUMMER. THE CHART THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT NOW ACTUALLY
SHOWS SUMMER 2010 VERSUS SUMMER 2011 AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS BASED IN 2010 WE ACTUALLY
HAD 30 OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH AGE 14-15 AND THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH STIMULUS MONEY.
THAT FUNNING NO LONGER EXISTS ANYMORE, SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS SUB SIDDIZING THOSE WITH
NEW INITIATIVES AND NEW PROGRAMS. THE OTHER THING YOU WILL SEE IS THERE IS AN
INCREASE IN YOUTH AGE 16-24 WHICH NORMALLY WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THAT INCREASE.
AND A DECREASE IN INTERNS, THAT PROVIDE MORE YOUTH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A JOB SKILLS AND
TRAINING. AGAIN, THE OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT, SERVICES
POSSIBLE FOR YOUTH AGE 13 TO 17 AND AS YOU CAN SEE BASICALLY THE 21ST CENTURY GRANTS
PROVIDE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IN THE SUMMER IN MIDDLE SCHOOLS, WE ACTUALLY WILL HAVE PROGRAMS
FOR TEAMS AND AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER. AS OF RIGHT NOW THE BOTANICAL GARDENS, LIBRARIES,
THEY RUN A LEADERSHIP PROGRAM, AND TEEN READING AND CAMPS FOR YOUTH IN THE SUMMER AS WELL.
NEW INITIATIVES WILL BE A DIGITAL CONNECTORS CAMP AND WHAT THIS DOES IS PROVIDE YOU THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY MAKE THEIR OWN CLOTHES AND BRAND THEIR CLOTHE, IT'S AN ENTREPRENEURIAL
PROGRAM AND IT PROVIDES TECHNOLOGY EDUCATION, YOU NEED TECHNOLOGY TO START YOUR OWN BUSINESS,
THIS WILL BE A FOUR-WEEK CAMP AND BE LIKE 15 YOUTH WHO WILL BE AT THE NORFOLK COMMUNITY
CENTER AND PART OF THAT WILL BE TO LEARN ENTREPRENEURIAL SKIES, THIS WILL BE A 10-WEEK CAMP.
OUR SECOND NEW INITIATIVE WILL BE CAMP INSPIRES AND THAT WILL BE RUN OUT OF THE MASON CAMP,
OUT OF THE TECHNOLOGY CENTER BUT THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE A CAMP WHERE TEENS MENTORING TEENS.
THIS IS A CHANCE TO GIVENNER CITY YOUTH AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN OUTDOOR ADVENTURE, PROGRAMS,
ACTUALLY KAYAKING, FISH BEING, THINGS LIKE THAT, EXPOSING THEM TO THINGS THEY HAVE NOT
BEEN EXPOSED TO, ONCE THEY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO SKILLS IT UP TO THEM TO GO BACK TO THEIR
PEERS AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT THE OUTDOORS AS WELL.
IT GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO BELIEVE IN EACH OTHER, AND TO BELIEVE THAT TEENS CAN ACTUALLY
WORK TOGETHER. ANOTHER PROPOSED PROGRAM WHICH WE WILL BE
IMPLEMENTING THIS SUMMER IS DURING OUR 10 WEEKS WE NORMALLY HAVE SUMMER CAMPS, WE WILL
OPEN OUR RECREATION CENTERS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THIS WON'T BE TYPICAL BASKETBALL,
IT WILL BE LIFE SKILL COURSES, OPPORTUNITIES FOR TEENS TO DISCUSS TEEN ISSUES DURING THESE
HOURS AS WELL. OUR NEXT STEP, TRANSITION WITH THE BUREAU
OF YOUTH SERVICES, WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE ALL TEEN PROGRAMS AND ACTUALLY WANT TO PROVIDE
A WIDER RANGE OF PROGRAMS. WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS IMPLEMENT DEVELOPMENTAL
ASPECTS THROUGH THE INSTITUTE FROM MINNESOTA AND DR. PETER BENSON WHERE WE PROVIDE SAFE
PLACE FOR OUR KIDS TO PLAY, EXPERIENCE WORLD, RELIGION, MAKE SURE THEY GROW UP IN A CONDUSIVE
NEIGHBORHOOD FOR LEARNING AND EDUCATION. THAT IS PART OF WHAT OUR PROGRAM FOCUS WILL
BE AND THIS WILL BE SPREAD THROUGH THE OTHER AGENCIES.
AS WE IMPLEMENT A DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IN THE SUMMER OF 2012 WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DISCUSS
THESE PROGRAMS THROUGH THE 2013 BUDGET PROCESS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
>> THAT'S PRETTY GOOD, DARRELL. I MEAN YOU REALLY LOOK TO ME LIKE YOU CAME
UP WITH PROGRAMS THAT WILL KEEP SOME KIDS BUSY BUT ALSO REALLY PROVIDE SOME GOOD USE
OF THEIR TIME. >> WHAT ARE THE SATURDAY HOURS?
>> ACTUALLY BASED ON BUDGET CUTS FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR ALL OF OUR CENTERS ARE
CLOSED ON SATURDAYS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NORTH VIEW ON LAMBERT.
>> QUESTION, YOU HAD STIMULUS MONEY FOR KIDS UP TO 24, RIGHT?
>> NO, WE DON'T HAVE STIMULUS MONEY THIS YEAR. >> SO THAT WAS LAST YEAR?
>> YES. >> SO, ARE YOU -- I GUESS THE QUESTION I'M
TRYING TO ASK IS ARE YOU ANTICIPATING OR DO YOU HAVE SLOTS FOR KIDS 24 OR YOU HAVE KIDS
13, 14, 15, 16, 17, AND THAT FILLS UP, THEN THAT IS WHAT WE GO WITH.
BUT ARE WE SETTING ASIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR KIDS THAT ARE 24 IN THIS, OR PROGRAMS?
>> WHAT HAPPENED IS PRIOR TO TWO YEARS AGO BEFORE THE STIMULUS FUND CAME IN, THE PROGRAM
STOPPED AT 19. THE STIMULUS FUND CAME IN IT WENT TO 24.
AND IF WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIT THE RESET BUTTON WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE LEFT IT AT 19.
I WOULD SAY OUT OF ALL APPLICATIONS, 23% ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE 20, 21, 22 AND 24, SO
WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PRINCIPLES OF THE PROGRAM WHICH WERE DEVELOPED PRIOR TO
THE STIMULUS FUND ARE STILL IN PLACE, SO THAT IS SOMETHING, AGAIN, IF WE HAD TO DO THIS
OVER AGAIN WE WOULD HAVE RESET THE BUTTON TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT WITH PROGRAMS PRIOR
TO THE STIMULUS FUNDS. >> THAT'S THE DISCUSSION, A 24-YEAR-OLD VERSUS
A 16-YEAR-OLD IN THE PROGRAM, RIGHT NOW WHAT I WILL SAY IS WE ARE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES
FOR THAT 16-YEAR-OLD. >> WHAT ABOUT THE SUMMER SOCCER CAMPS THAT
YOU ALL HAD? >> WE ARE STILL TALKING, OUR PLAN IS STILL
TO HAVE THE JULY SOCCER CLINIC. >> WAS IT THREE?
>> THE FIRST ONE WAS PURCEL WHERE WE HAVE THEM TALK TO KID, THE OTHER IS RUN THROUGH
KIDS UNITED. >> ALL RIGHT, OKAY.
>> WE DON'T HAVE THE DATES YET, WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THE DETAILS.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT DARRELL IN THIS
CURRENT YEAR, 2.9 MILLION HIT IN TERMS OF SOME OF HIS SERVICES.
AS YOU LOOK AT THE 2012 BUDGET AND THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AS WAITED RECREATION, IT'S REALLY
THE YOUTH PROGRAMMING, WE TRIED TO PULL IT INTO DARRELL'S DEPARTMENT.
I WILL TELL YOU IN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, HE TOOK ALL THOSE DOLLARS IN THESE PROGRAMS,
THESE ARE NOT NEW DOLLARS, HE TOOK EXISTING DOLLARS AND REDIRECTED THOSE DOLLARS TO THESE
NEW INITIATIVES, BUT PRIOR TO THE 2012 BUDGET, THE CUTS THAT HE TOOK LAST YEAR WERE -- ARE
STILL IN PLACE. >> SO, WE ARE [INAUDIBLE]
>> ON SATURDAY. >> EXACTLY.
>> YEAH, ACTUALLY [INAUDIBLE] THE POOLS OPEN JUNE 25TH.
[INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS] THE CHESTERFIELD FITNESS CENTER WILL BE OPEN
ON SATURDAY? >> IT WILL BE OPEN SATURDAY.
>> WHERE ELSE WILL BE OPEN SATURDAY FOR KIDS? >> THE OUTDOOR POOLS WHEN THEY OPEN AND CHESTERFIELD.
>> IT'S DIFFERENT FROM LAST SUMMER. >> I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL, I JUST WONDER.
>> OUR BEACHES ARE OPEN. >> THE BEACHES ARE OPEN.
>> ALL RIGHT, MARCUS, WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE? >> ONE MORE ITEM, I THINK IT A THREE SLIDE
PRESENTATION FROM FRANK DUKE, IT ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK.
WE SAID WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS FOR DENIAL WILL COME TO YOU IN ADVANCE.
>> THIS WON'T BE A LENGTHY PRESENTATION. AS MR. JONES INDICATED, SIMPLY WHAT WE WANT
TO DO IS GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON AN ITEM THAT WILL BE COMING TO YOU IN TWO WEEKS WHICH THERE
IS A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, THE ITEMS ARE REQUESTED FOR A HARRY STAB LISHMENT AT 901
AND 905 EAST LITTLE CREEK. THIS PROPERTY WAS LAST USED FOR AUTOMOBILE
REPAIR IN 2008 WHICH MEANS THAT THEY HAVE TO FILE FOR NEW SPECIAL EXCEPTION, IT'S BEEN
MORE THAN TWO YEARS SINCE IT WAS USED FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIRS.
PREVIOUSLY ANOTHER APPLICANT CAME IN IN 2009 AND ALSO SOUGHT A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR AUTOMOBILE
REPAIR. HE NEEDED IT BECAUSE HE WAS LOOKING TO EXPAND
THE ENTIRE FLIGHT. THEN IN 2008 ONLY HALF THE PROPERTY WAS BEING
USED FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR. THE APPLICATION IN 2008 WAS TO COVER THE ENTIRE
SITE. HE CAME FORWARD AT THAT TIME WITH A PROPOSAL
TO USE THE ENTIRE SITE FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR BACK IN 2009.
SITE IMPROVEMENTS, CLOSE DRIVEWAYS, IMPROVE ACCESS AND WAS GOING TO INSTALL THINGS.
THAT REQUEST WAS UNANIMOUSLY DENIED, RECOMMENDATION BY PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE DENIED AND IT
WAS DENIED BY THE COUNCIL. IN CONSIDERING OF THE EXACT SAME THING, THIS
IS THE SAME THING YOU DENIED TWO YEARS AGO, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
>> WHERE IS THIS? HOW BIG IS THE CROSS STREET?
>> IT NEXT TO THE WAL-MART. >> CARS --
>> 2009 WE HAD MASSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION TO IT, WE'VE HEARD NO NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION
AT THIS POINT AND WE THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE FELT THE NEIGHBORHOOD RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL
BASED ON PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION. >> HAVE YOU HAD ANYTHING ON BEHALF OF THE
APPLICANTS? >> NO, LAST TIME WE HAD PROPONENTS.
IT DOES HAVE A PETITION SIGNED BY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SAYS THEY WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE
AN AUTOMOBILE REPAIR. >> WASN'T THAT BEFORE, FRANK?
>> THE GUY WHO WAS IN HERE WHO WAS IN HERE BEFORE AND HAD THIS PROPERTY BEFORE, THE ISSUE
WE RAN INTO IS HE NEVER GOT A BUSINESS LICENSE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT --
>> THE ISSUE YOU RAN INTO? >> IF YOU DON'T HAVE A LEGAL LICENSE YOU DON'T
HAVE A LEGAL BUSINESS, SO WE DON'T RECOGNIZE THE FACT HE HAD OPERATED UNTIL THEN, BUT THE
GUY WHO WAS IN HERE BEFORE WAS THE REASON THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS OPPOSED TO IT, HE SAID
HE DIDN'T OPERATE A GOOD ESTABLISHMENT, HE CREATED PROBLEMS.
>> THE GUY WHO WANTS TO MOVE IN THERE HAD A TIRE AND RENT STORE ACROSS THE STREET WHERE
THE NEW CVS IS BEING BUILT, AND IT WAS TORN DOWN AS PART OF THE NEW CVS AND HE HAS TEMPORARILY
MOVED, I THINK THEY HAVE A LOCATION ON THE CORNER OF MILITARY HIGHWAY IN THE OLD MUFFLER
PLACE, BIG K-MART AND I GUESS THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO WILLOW CREEK ROAD AND MOVE ON THIS
SITE. >> THE IMPRESSION I HAVE IS THEY WOULD LIKE
TO KEEP BOTH LOCATIONS GOING ON THE MILITARY HIGHWAY SITE, IT GRANDFATHERED BECAUSE IT
HAS HAD THE APPROPRIATE LICENSES AND HAS NOT GONE MORE THAN TWO YEARS WITHOUT HAVING NOTHING
THERE THAT WE RECOGNIZED. I'M SORRY, THAT DRAGGED ON LONGER THAN I WANTED
IT TO. >> MARCUS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE HERE?
WE HAVE SOME TIME IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES RIGHT NOW?
>> I E-MAILED OUT A REQUEST [INAUDIBLE] >> WE JUST HAD A BIG STORM BUT I WOULD LIKE
TO GET I UPDATE ON HOW THE WATER SUPPLY IS, 6 INCHES DOWN THIS YEAR, [INAUDIBLE]
>> MAYBE IT'S FIVE. >> I GUESS THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? >> ONE, I KNOW THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE
THINGS HERE, ONE BEING THE CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD PRESENTATION, WE SPOKE OF
PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL BUT DIDN'T TALK ABOUT USING FACILITIES, TRACKS, WHAT HAVE
YOU FOR THE COMMUNITY. I DO HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS PLANNING
TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH ADMINISTRATION, IT SHOULD BE --
>> I THINK IT TIME FOR US TO START CONSOLIDATING SERVICES AND LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN COMBINE
THINGS. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN TERMS OF LOOKING
AT OPPORTUNITIES WHERE FUNDING CAN UTILIZE THING LIKE COMPUTERS AND OTHER THINGS IN THE
SCHOOL BUILDINGS. >> WE HAVE BEEN, ALTHOUGH WE HAVEN'T REPORTED
TO THE COUNCIL, WE HAVE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS AS EARLY IN THE MONTH CALLED SHARED SERVICES,
AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF PROGRESS WITH SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS HOW DO WE GO ABOUT
PRINTING AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR SAVINGS ALL THE WAY TO WHEN WE START TO LOOK AT SCHOOL
CONSTRUCTION, HOW CAN THE SCHOOLS BE COMMUNICATED TO HAVING A LIED PERSON FROM THE SCHOOL SITE.
>> JOHN. >> SO WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING FOR A NUMBER OF
MONTHS WITH SOME GOOD PROGRESS. >> THE SECOND THING WAS GRASS CUTTING, I WAS
HOPING THAT WE WOULD HAVE -- I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU HAVE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH
THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE HOURLY EMPLOYEES IN THAT CONTRACT, THE WORK FORCE, SO WHEN
YOU GUYS GO UP TO THE LINE AND CUT GRASS, TIE THEM TO THE PROPERTY LAND, THE CITY GOES
RIGHT UP TO THE CITY'S LINE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE GRASS IS FIVE FEET TALL ON ONE SIDE AND CUT
ON THE OTHER SIDE, THAT'S RIDICULOUS. I THINK WE HAVE TO USE THE SERVICES, YOU GUYS
OUT THERE, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO BY PASS IT, GET IN THE CAR AND GO SOMEWHERE
ELSE. THE VEHICLE THEY ARE DRIVING AS WELL AS THE
GAS AND OIL, BY CUTTING WHERE THEY ARE AND WE CAN CUT WHERE WE ARE.
THERE'S PROPERTY THAT IS OWNED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, WE ARE TALKING PROPERTY AJAYS EN,
I DON'T SEE -- ADJACENT, I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T LOOK AT A MAP AND SAY THIS IS ALL ONE.
INVENTORYWISE WE WOULDN'T NEED, WE HIRE OTHER PEOPLE TO WORK WITH US, BUT AT LEAST WE ARE
COVERING THE BASES, WE ARE NOT WEIGHING FOR SOMEONE TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY MAINTAIN THAT,
AND, SO, I WOULD HOPE WE HAVE SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS AS WELL, I THINK THAT THIS YEAR WE'LL
GET THROUGH IT, BUT I JUST HOPE NEXT YEAR WE WILL HAVE OUR DUCKS IN A ROW.
>> I HOPE GERALD STEPPED OUT, THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED DISCUSSIONS, YOU MENTIONED THAT TO
US BEFOREHAND AND HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT. >> PLUS THE TRANSFER STAYS UN, I WILL CONTINUE
TO STAY ON THAT, THE TRANSER STATION. YOU KNOW, GO UP TO THE CORNER BY THE CEMETERY,
AND HAD A FIGHT THE OTHER DAY, IT WAS JUST A TERRIBLE SCENE.
I HAD AN OFFICER VEHICLE OUT THERE, [INAUDIBLE]. WE'VE GOT TO DO BETTER, WE MUST DO BETTER.
THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. >> THANK YOU.
>> TWO THINGS. A FEW MONTHS AGO I GOT A CALL AND I THINK
ANDY GOT IT TOO, BUT IT WAS A GENTLEMAN TRYING TO OPERATE A CARPET CLEANING BUSINESS OUT
OF HIS HOME, AND IT REQUIRED US REGULATING OR CHANGING OUR ORDINANCE FOR HOME-BASED BUSINESS
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING
HAPPENS SO RIGHT NOW IF YOU OPERATE A HOME-BASED BUSINESS AND IT CARPET CLEANING, CLEANING
COMPANY OR VOLUNTEER-TYPE BUSINESS, YOU HAVE TO GO GET A STORAGE UNIT BECAUSE THE STORAGE
UNIT HAS COMMERCIAL ADDRESS AND YOUR BUSINESS HAS TO HAVE A COMMERCIAL ADDRESS, YOU CAN'T
OPERATE IT FROM YOUR HOME EVEN IF YOU DON'T STORE ANYTHING AT THE HOME.
SO, I'D LIKE OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT, WE LOSE A LOT OF BUSINESSES AND
FOLKS WHO KNOW PEOPLE THAT PERTAIN TO JUST GO TO VIRGINIA BEACH, THERE ALSO IS A BURDEN
ON PEOPLE TRYING TO EARNING A LITTLE SIDE INCOME AND THEY HAVE TO GO GET A 50, 60, 70
DOLLAR A MONTH STORAGE UNIT WHEN THEY DON'T STORE ANYTHING AT HOME, A LOT OF THEM TAKE
CLEANING SUPPLIES WHERE THEY CLEAN AND WHEN IT COMES TIME TO RENEW THEM, THEY MAY OR MAY
NOT BE ABLE TO FINE THEM SO THEY FALL BETWEEN THE CRACKS.
I'D LIKE TO SEE ABOUT SEEING THAT ORDINANCE IN LINE WITH OTHER CITIES.
>> YOU SAID -- WHERE DOES HE KEEP HIS PRODUCT? IN HIS TRUCK?
>> HE COULD KEEP HIS EQUIPMENT IN HIS TRUCK, IF HE HAD A VAN, A WORK VAN.
>> WHERE DOES HE KEEP IT? >> IN HIS TRUCK.
>> WHERE DOES HE PARK IT? >> IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THEM DO, EVEN THE CONTRACTORS. >> THERE IS AN ORDINANCE --
>> I DON'T MEAN A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE, I MEAN A REGULAR WHITE WORK VAN THAT HE CAN ROLL
THE DOOR OPEN, PUT THE CARPET CLEAN NEAR THERE AND I DON'T MEAN A COMMERCIAL VEHICLE, BUT,
I MEAN, THERE ARE WAYS TO REGULATE THAT. EVEN THE CONTRACTORS, THEY HAVE PICKUP TRUCKS,
THEY PUT THEIR TOOLS IN THEIR PICKUP TRUCKS OR HAVE VANS THEY HAVE OUT FITTED ON THE INSIDE,
IT MORE LIKE A MINI VAN AND ON THE INSIDE THEY HAVE THEIR TOOLS AND STUFF IN THERE,
THEY HAVE TO GET A STORAGE UNIT. >> IF THE GUY HAS FOUR VANS AT HIS HOUSE,
PEOPLE COME PICK THEM UP FROM THE HOUSE. >> THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN REGULATE IT IN
THE ORDINANCE. >> WE DO REGULATE IT AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE
THE LINE IS. THE LAST ONE THE OWNER WANTED TO OPERATE A
BAKERY OUT OF HER KITCHEN. >> THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> WE DETERMINE IT WAS PERMITTED UNDER THE CURRENT GUIDELINE AND SHE WAS PERMITTED TO
PROCEED. >> REALLY?
>> YES, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LINE IS, BUT AS YOU ARE SAYING, YOU HAVE TWO ISSUES, WE
WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PROFIT FROM THEIR HOMES AT THE SAME TIME WE DON'T WANT TO TURN
A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD INTO A COMMERCIAL ONE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LINE IS, BUT WE DO PERMIT IT, PROBABLY NEED A PRESENTATION.
>> A BAKERY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT COME IN AND INSPECT THE KITCHEN, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL
KITCHEN FOR A COMMERCIAL -- >> MY SISTER BAKES CAKES AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT
JUST LOOKED AT HER KITCHEN AND SHE HAD TO APPLY FOR A BUSINESS LICENSE, SHE BAKES CASE,
RUNS IT ALL THROUGH THE INTERNET. >> THEN I GUESS WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT.
>> WE HAVE DONE WHAT YOU ASKED TO US DO, WE'VE COMPLETED THE ANALYSIS.
MR. JONES IS TRYING TO BE NICE AND NOT THROW ME UNDER THE BUS ON THIS.
I'VE GIVEN THE ANALYSIS COMPLETE AND I SPOKE TO MR. JONES LAST WEEK ABOUT TRYING TO GET
ON THE COMMITTEE AGENDA SO WE CAN PRESENT YOU WITH THE RESULTS OF WHERE OUR REGULATIONS
DIFFER FROM THOSE OF MOST OTHER JURISDICTIONS. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
>> I HAVE A FEW THINGS. I THINK THIS WAS ADDRESSED AND I CAN'T FINE
THE E-MAIL, THAT THE E-MAIL FROM THE SHERIFF ASKING ABOUT SHERIFF DEPUTIES GETTING A $5
BONUS, THEY ARE GETTING -- $500 BONUS, THEY ARE GETTING IT?
WE SAID THE CONSTITUTIONAL -- I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS IT.
>> HE SENT AN E-MAIL, I GUESS -- >> HE DIDN'T, I SPOKE --
>> I THOUGHT IT WAS MISLEADING WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT.
JUST A LITTLE SIDE, I GUESS WE HAVE A PRINT SHOP WE DEAL WITH, THAT PRINT OUR BUSINESS
CARDS, THEY ARE ACTUALLY SOMEWHERE AROUND HERE?
>> WE HAVE CAPACITY PRINT SHOP. >> SOMEBODY SAID THEY WENT INTO PICK UP BUSINESS
CARD ONE DAY AND THEY WERE IN THERE AT THE SAME TIME AS THEY WERE MAKING BUSINESS CARDS
FOR SOMEBODY OVER AT THE CSB, AND I'M NOT ATTACKING THE CSB BUT THE CSB PERSON HAD ORDERED
THEIR BUSINESS CARDS WITH THE FANCY EMBOSSED NORFOLK CARDS THAT COST $30 THAT COST MORE
THAN THE REGULAR ONES THAT ARE 11 AND 12. WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WAYS TO SAVE MONEY,
I KNOW IT'S SMALL, BUT WE ARE BIDDING THE CSB, I GUESS THAT ORGANIZATION IS BILLING
THE CSB $30 FOR THE BUSINESS CARD, IT SOUNDS SMALL.
>> WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT WAYS WE CAN SAVE MONEY --
>> YOU BRING AN EXCELLENT POINT WHICH WE ARE LOOKING INTO.
BASICALLY WE HAVE SO MANY IMAGES A MONTH FROM THE PRINT SHOP, WHICH IT IS TO OUR BENEFIT
TO USE THOSE IMAGES, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO PAY FOR IT WHETHER OR NOT I USE THEM.
SO ANYTIME SOMEONE GOES AROUND THE PRINT SHOP TO DO SOMETHING, I'M PAYING FOR IMAGES ANYWAY,
SO IT IMPORTANT FOR US IF SOMEBODY IS DOING AN ANNUAL REPORT OR WHATEVER TO DO TO THE
PRINT SHOP BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR A NUMBER OF IMAGES WHETHER WE USE THEM OR
NOT. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING.
NOT ONLY WITH THE PRINT SHOP BUT EVEN WITH DESK TOP PRINTING.
IN OTHER WORDS AT SOME POINT WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL -- WE LOOK AT ALL THE PRINTING SERVICES,
IF I CAN PRINT SOMETHING THAT WILL COST ME 25 CENTS FROM THIS PARTICULAR DEVICE VERSUS
A QUARTER OR PENNY FROM ANOTHER PLACE WE NEED TO CONSOLIDATE THEM.
>> I WANTED TO BRING PARKWAY'S BIG PLEA FOR CAMERAS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, I THOUGHT.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> THE LAST TIME WE DID THIS IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION,
IT WAS A STATEMENT BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE THAT WE NEEDED TO HIRE TWO MORE OFFICERS,
YOU ASKED US TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT FOUR INTERSECTIONS AND FIND UP TO EIGHT INTERSECTIONS, THEN WE
HAD A CHANGE IN ADMINISTRATION AND IT HAS NOT BEEN SCHEDULED TO COME BACK.
THAT WON THE ISSUE WE HAVE TO DO, WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU, HAVE INTERSECTIONS AUTHORIZED
TO HAVE IT HAPPEN, TALK TO V-DOT AND HAVE THE INTERSECTIONS AUTHORIZED.
>> I THINK YOU WANT TO GET THE [INAUDIBLE]. WERE YOU HERE WHEN THEY BROUGHT THAT PROPOSAL?
>> YES. >> TWO POLICE OFFICERS TO MONITOR FOUR INTERSECTIONS.
>> RIGHT, BUT WE WERE ALL UNDER THE AGREEMENT, THOUGH, THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT EIGHT AND IT
WOULD MAXIMIZE -- >> IT DOESN'T COUNT ANYTHING TO PUT CAMERAS
ON IT, ON TWO OR FOUR OR EIGHT. >> I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IF WE ARE GOING
TO DO IT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT CAN VERY EASILY PULL IT AWAY AGAIN, IF
IT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WANTS TO DO, I DON'T WANT US TO MISS OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY
TO DO THIS IF THEY DECIDE TO CHANGE THAT, AND THE CAMERAS IN THE PROJECT FOCUS AREAS,
THERE HAS BEEN SOME MORE CONCERN FROM THE CITIZENS THAT THOSE OF YOU, THERE WERE A COUPLE
INCIDENCES, WHEN THEY CALLED THE POLICE TO REPORT WHAT WAS GOING ON, THEY HAD SAID IT
WAS RIGHT OUTSIDE ONE OF THE CAMERAS, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS LIKE WE DON'T KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT THIS, AND IF THEY ARE JUST THERE TO BE THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS CONTINUED
EXPENSE FOR US, I'M WONDERING IF IT WAS JUST A BAD IDEA, COULD WE USE THOSE CAMERAS, COULD
THE GRANDE HIGH SCHOOL USE THOSE? IF THEY ARE JUST THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE
FOR A QUICK FIX, IF THEY ARE NOT BEING UTILIZED, THEN WHY ARE WE KEEPING THEM UP AND WHAT ARE
WE PAYING TO KEEP THEM UP AND CONTINUING THEM? >> I'LL LOOK INTO THAT FOR YOU.
YOU HAVE A CAMERA AND THE CAMERA IS UP AND LET SAY THERE IS NO CRIME THAT IS COMMITTED.
THE QUESTION BECOMES WAS THE CAMERA A DETERRENT OR IS THE CAMERA NOT BEING UTILIZED.
THAT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER OR NOT THE CAMERA WAS
SUCCESSFUL OR NOT, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS LOOK AT HOW THEY -- THE CAMERAS HAVE BEEN UTILIZED
THE LAST THREE YEARS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT IS IN A PLACE THAT IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST
USE. >> THE OTHER PART OF THE EQUATION IS I THOUGHT
THE CAMERAS, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, THE CAMERAS, YOU TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED
AS OPPOSED SOMEONE SITTING AT THE CAMERAS AND DISPATCHING A POLICE OFFICER TO THE SCENE,
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, AND THAT WASN'T COST EFFECTIVE.
IF SOMETHING TAKES PLACE, THEY HAVE VIOLENT CRIME, BURGLARY, LARCENY, AND THEY WOULD APPREHEND
THE PERPETRATOR, THEN YOU WOULD SAY THE CAMERAS WERE SUCCESSFUL.
BUT GENERALLY PEOPLE MOVE BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE CAMERA.
I MEAN -- >> I SAY IF WE COULD UTILIZE THIS CAMERA SOMEWHERE
ELSE, I KNOW WE SPENT SOME MONEY ON THE PARKING GARAGE CAMERAS BUT IF THERE IS ANOTHER LOCATION
THAT COULD USE, I'M NOT ADVOCATING PULLING THEM AWAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING
THE BEST USE OUT OF THEM, IF THEY ARE SITTING THERE.
IF THAT IS THE CASE WE CAN PUT FAKE CAMERAS UP AND -- THERE IS LIABILITY ISSUES, I'M SURE.
AND FINALLY, THE R-22 ABOUT THE TAZWELL BUILDING AND I ASKED ABOUT THE FIBER OPTICS, I HAD
ASKED THERE IS A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE FIBEROPTICS IN THE BUILDING AND I ASKED HOW MUCH MONDAY
THAT WOULD COST FOR FIBEROPTICS AND IF WE ARE NOT PLANNING ON STAYING IN THE BUILDING,
END UP LEAVING, PAYING ALL THAT MONEY INTO A BUILDING WE MIGHT NOT STAY IN, THAT WAS
MY ONE CONCERN WITH IT. >> WHAT YOU WOULD BE APPROVING IS THE PERMISSION
BEING GRANTED AT NO COST TO US FROM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO PUT IN -- SO OUR POLICE
AND FIRE ARE SAYING THEY WOULD HAVE BETTER CONNECTIONS TO THE COMPUTERS, IT SOMETHING
THAT WE SEE AND SOMETHING THE LANDLORD WOULD ALLOW US TO DO AND HE WOULDN'T CHARGE.
>> WE MAY FOR IT. >> YES, WE PAY FOR IT.
>> THE OVERALL SPEED, MAYBE HAVING ALL OUR -- MAYBE WE NEED TO LEASE WITHIN A FIVE OR
10 YEAR PERIOD, HAVING PEOPLE IN OUR OWN PROPERTIES. >> IT A VERY INEXPENSIVE INVEST GLMENT THAT'S
WHAT I WAS ASK -- INVESTMENT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.
I AGREE THE FINANCIAL IMPACT IS ONLY DEALING WITH THE LEASE, BUT THERE'S THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION
IN THERE ABOUT FIBEROPTICS WITH NO COST ON IT, SO, THERE IS AN EXPENSE AND IT NICE TO
KNOW THAT IN ADVANCE BECAUSE IF NOT WHEN YOU HAVE, WHEN PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION AND READ THIS,
THEN WE GET THE ANGRY E-MAILS WE ARE JUST WASTING MORE MONEY, BUT WE CAN SOLVE THIS
IF WE KNOW IN ADVANCE ABOUT IT AND HOW MUCH IT WILL COST AND WE CAN EXPLAIN THIS.
I THINK A COUPLE OF US GOT AN E-MAIL FROM AN ANGRY CITIZEN AND IT COULD BE BETTER EXPLAINED.
>> I THINK SOME OF THAT, [INAUDIBLE] FIBEROPTIC SYSTEM WE HAVE IN THERE WOULD BE A DETRIMENT
GETTING OUT OF THE CAR, SO I THINK BEING ABLE TO READ THAT INTO THIS, THE FUTURE INVESTMENT.
>> A COUPLE THINGS. VERY BRIEFLY.
RIGHT ON SCHEDULE THIS MORNING, MIDDLE BUSH STREET PUTTING UP BARRELS AND A SIGN -- JOHN,
BUSH STREET, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING, THERE ON BUSH STREET THEY ARE THERE A COUPLE
THREE TIMES A WEEK. CAN'T WE GET IT ALL DONE AT ONE TIME INSTEAD
OF -- IT LIKE WE -- I KNOW THEY COME IN THERE, THEY PULL A PERMIT AND WE GIVE THEM A PERMIT
BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO LOOK AT THE PICTURE TO SEE WHAT ARE WE DOING?
WE'VE BEEN IN BUSH STREET, IT BEEN GOING ON IN YEARS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE OUT THERE
RIGHT NOW OR -- >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS EITHER, BUT THERE WERE TRUCKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, THEY
HAD THE ARROWS, THEY WERE JUST ON BUSH STREET FOR A MONTH, IT'S JUST -- I DON'T BLAME THEM.
>> WHAT ARE THEY DOING? >> THEY ARE DOING ALL SORT OF THINGS, THEY
HAVE BEEN DOING STUFF FOR YEARS. I ASKED MAYBE A MONTH AGO ABOUT THE TREES
THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED ON BUSH STREET, BY PEOPLE DOING WORK THERE, AND NOBODY HAS EVER --
>> PEOPLE ARE REPLACING THEM. >> A NOTE BACK WOULD BE HELPFUL TO TRY TO
MAKE THAT WHEN WE ASK A QUESTION, JUST COME BACK AND FOLLOW PLAN C.
>> IF THIS USE E-MAIL THEY USUALLY E-MAIL YOU BACK.
>> NO, THEY DON'T. >> YOU MUST HAVE A SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH
THEM. MARCUS, I HAVE TO STOP AT THE HIGH SCHOOL
FOR DEDICATION, SOMEONE WAS CONCERNED WE HAD TAKEN MONEY AWAY FROM THE POLICE MUSEUM, AND
THIS LADY WAS DISTRAUGHT, YOU WOULD HAVE TOLL US THAT.
>> WHAT OCCURRED, THE POLICE AND FIRE MUSEUM IS THAT INSTEAD OF BEING OPERATED UNDER THE
FACILITIES, CALLED FACILITIES, AGAIN, IT'S A MUSEUM AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IS IT BEING
MANAGED BY HANK AND THERE WERE SOME SAVINGS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT CAPACITY, IF THERE
IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT, I WILL GET RIGHT BACK WITH YOU.
>> OKAY. WILL YOU CHECK THAT?
>> YES. >> THERE WAS SOME COMMUNICATION.
>> THE LADY CLAIMED THERE WAS SOME FUNDING THAT HAD BEEN ELIMINATED.
I SAID I HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. >> I KNOW THERE WAS ONE PIECE DISCUSSED, THE
USE OF VOLUNTEERS, SO THERE COULD HAVE BEEN SOME OFFICIALS WAITING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
THAT. I KNOW THERE IS AN USE OF VOLUNTEERS AND THAT
STRATEGY. >> I HAVE ONE MORE THING.
AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO GET MARCUS AND DARRELL FOR A DISCUSSION [INAUDIBLE] THERE ARE A LOT
OF ANXIOUS PEOPLE, 800 KIDS. THEY WANT TO KNOW, A NUMBER OF US HAVE BEEN
LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES ALL OVER THE CITY, IT WOULD BE NICE IN THE CITY, IF WE COULD,
THE SEASON STARTS IN A COUPLE THREE WEEKS. >> IT'S BEEN DRAGGING ON.
>> CUTTING GRASS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND A LOT OF THINGS, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHERE WE
ARE HEADED, THEY CAN HAVE A HOME SOMEWHERE. WE ARE WORKING ON A NUMBER OF THINGS.
CAN WE BRING THAT TO A HEAD SHORTLY? I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING, YOU HAVE ALL TALKED ABOUT
IT. I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE THEM SOME LEVEL OF
CONFIDENCE, A LOT OF PEOPLE MINDS ARE [INAUDIBLE] >> WE ARE WORKING ON SEVERAL OPTIONS.
>> IT IMPORTANT. WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND.
[SIRENS] >> WE NEED TO DO IT AS A COUNCIL, TO GET A
RULING. >> THE FIRST WORK SESSION.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, THINGS WORK SLOWLY.
>> I KNOW DARRELL IS WORKING ON IT, MARCUS, I DON'T -- WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT ALL OF
THEM HAVE A PLACE TO PLAY. I KNOW THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE THEIRS, YOU
LOSE THE SYNERGY. WE NEED TO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO COME
UP WITH A LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE. I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.
>> ALL THE COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION WHERE WE ARE HEADED.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL START RIGHT AT 7:00. [END OF WORK SESSION]
>>> COUNCIL FOR THE CITY OF NORFOLK IS NOW IN SESSION.
THE OPENING PRAYER WILL BE GIVEN BY COUNCIL WOMAN ANGELA WILLIAMS.
AND THEN PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY AND FOR ALL THE
OPPORTUNITIES IT OFFERS US INDIVIDUALLY AND COLLECTIVELY.
BLESS THE CITY OF NORFOLK AND EVERY EMPLOYEE AND CITIZEN.
BLESS OUR MAYOR AND MEMBER OF COUNCIL AS WE TRY TO MANAGE WITH FAIRNESS AND GUIDE THE
CITY. BLESS OUR MANAGER AND EVERY EMPLOYEE WHO WORKS
WITH THE CITY, ALLOW US TO BE TENDERNESS WITH THE YOUNG, SYMPATHETIC WITH THE THRIVING AND
TOLERANCE OF THE WEAK AND OF THE STRONG. BLESS THOSE WHO ARE LESS FORTUNATE AND ALLOW
THEM TO REMEMBER YOUR LOVE AND YOUR GRACE. THESE IN ALL OTHER BLESSINGS WE ASK IN YOUR
SON'S NAME, AMEN.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC
FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR
ALL. >> CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> MR. BURFOOT. >> HERE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> HERE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> HERE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> HERE.
>> MR. WINN. >> HERE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> HERE.
>> MOTION IS TO EXCUSE THE TWO >> MR. BURFOOT.
>> HERE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> HERE. >> MR. RIDDICK.
>> HERE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> MOTION IS TO DISPENSE WITH THE READING OF THE MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
>> MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND WELCOME TO THE NORFOLK CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
THANK YOU FOR COMING, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
FOR YOUR BENEFIT THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS, THE FIRST THING WILL BE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THERE ARE THREE, THE COUNCIL WILL PROBABLY VOTE ON ALL THREE IN ONE VOTE.
AT THE CONCLUSION WE WILL MOVE TO THE REGULAR ATBEND A, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS, THERE
ARE 26 AND I THEN WE MAY HAVE ONE ADD ON IF THE COUNCIL IS AGREEABLE WHICH WOULD BE THE
APPOINTMENT OF SOMEONE TO THE RECREATION COMMISSION. CHARLOTTE WILLIAMS WHO WAS DOWN HERE?
>> GREAT RESUME.
AT THE CONCLUSION, IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON A NONAGENDA
ITEM YOU WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY. IN ORDER TO HAVE YOUR NAME CALLED YOU MUST
FIRST HAVE SIGNED A SLIP OF PAPER WHICH THE CLERK HAS MADE AVAILABLE IN THE LOBBY BEHIND
THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BEFORE THE MEETING BEGAN. AND SEVERAL HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THAT.
WE HAVE ONE BRIEF CEREMONIAL MATTER FROM THE UNITED WAY AND THE COMBINED CHARITIES CAMPAIGN,
GERALDINE EDDY IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS.
>> MY NAME IS CAROL MCCORMICK AND PRESIDENT OF UNITED WAY, WITH ME IS GERALDINE, SHE IS
THE CAMPAIGN MANAGER FOR THE SCHOOLS. WE'RE HERE TO SAY A SIMPLE THANK YOU AND TO
GIVE PRAISE TO THE CITY OF NORFOLK, I'M A PROUD RESIDENT OF NORFOLK AND ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT MARKS OUR EMPLOYEES IS NOT ONLY DO THEY WORK AND SERVE US IN THEIR WORK CAPACITY BUT
THEY DONATE THEIR TIME AND DONATE THEIR DOLLARS AND UNITED WAY, AS YOU KNOW, IS A HUMANITARIAN
ORGANIZATION, IT'S FOR SERVING LOCAL NEED. YOUR EMPLOYEES THIS YEAR RAISED $177,000.
[APPLAUSE] >> AND IF SARAH FULLER WILL COME FORWARD,
I DON'T THINK IT SURPRISES ANY OF US SHE SERVED AS YOUR COORDINATOR.
SARAH PAIGE, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE FOR YOU THAT SAYS ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL COMMUNITY,
UNITED WAY OF SOUTH HAMPTON ROADS WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND FOR YOUR
HELPING CREATE A BETTER LIFE FOR YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU.
>> THE CITY ALSO HAD -- YOU JOINED WITH THE OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE REGION AND HAD TWO
OF YOUR DIVISIONS TO RANK THE HIGHEST IN TERMS OF INCREASES, ONE WAS THE CEMETERY DIVISION
AND THE OTHER WAS THE OFFICE OF BUDGET. I HAVE ONE LAST THING TO SHARE WITH YOU, IN
THE LAST 10 YEARS THE CITY OF NORFOLK EMPLOYEES HAVE RAISED OVER $2.2 MILLION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN. [APPLAUSE]
>> THANK YOU. SARAH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORT AS WELL,
YOU ARE THE BEST. APPRECIATE IT.
OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA,
WOULD ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL LIKE TO HAVE ANY PORTION OF THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSIDERED
SEPARATE?
>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. RIDDICK.
>> AYE. >> DR. WHIBLEY.
>> AYE. >> MR. WINN.
>> AYE. >> MR. FRAIM.
>> AYE. >> R-1, PLEASE.
>> MATTER OF A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED THIS DAY PURSUANT TO ACTION OF THE COUNCIL ON MARCH
29, 2011, UNDER THE STATE LAW, PUBLIC NOTICE HAVING BEEN INSERTED IN THE LOCAL PRESS BY
THE CITY CLERK ON THE APPLICATION OF THE CITY OF NORFOLK TO A) AMEND THE GENERAL PLAN OF
NORFOLK, 1992, SO AS TO DESIGNATE AREAS APPROPRIATE FOR TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENTS ON THE FUTURE
LAND USE MAP OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND CREATE POLICIES SUPPORTING TOD-RELATED ZONING AND
B) TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF NORFOLK, 1992, SO AS TO CREATE THE TRANSIT-ORIENTED
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. >> THE COUNCIL HAS AGREED TO CONTINUE THIS
MATTER UNTIL DR. THIBLEY IS BACK, IT HAS SOME PROPERTY IN HER WARD, SHE'S HAD A REQUEST
AND MR. WINN HAS TOO FOR A MORE COMPLETE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS MATTER, BUT MR. JAMES YOU SIGNED
UP TO SPEAK AND WE ARE GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU. ELLIS JAMES, PLEASE.
>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME IS ELLIS W.
JAMES, I RESIDE HERE IN THE CITY OF NORFOLK. I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO WAIVE THE OPPORTUNITY
TO SPEAK, BUT I THINK MAYBE THE ISSUES THAT I WANT TO RAISE IS -- WOULD BE BETTER SERVED
SPEAKING TONIGHT RATHER THAN WAITING. I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF WHAT YOU ARE ATTEMPTING
TO DO, BUT GIVEN THE VERY EXCELLENT PRESENTATION THAT COUNCIL HAS JUST RECEIVED ON FLOODING
AND TIDAL AND RAIN FALL ISSUES AND SO ON, I'D LIKE TO URGE THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE
SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED
AS A RESULT OF THIS ACTION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE IN THE NEAR FUTURE THAT WOULD MAKE
ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT WE DON'T ACCIDENTALLY PUT OURSELVES IN THE POSITION OF ALLOWING
DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE BE MAJOR FLOODING ISSUES AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
CONCERNS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE. >> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.
>> THE MOTION WILL BE TO CONTINUE FOR TWO WEEKS.
>> WHEN IS OUR NEXT SESSION? >> JUNE 14TH.
>> OKAY, JUNE 14TH. >> THREE WEEKS.
>> MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-2, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE TO REVOKE THE PERMISSION TO
ENCROACH GRANTED TO NORFOLK REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AUTHORITY BY ORDINANCE NUMBER
43,618 AND TO GRANT PERMISSION TO NORFOLK REDEVELOPMENT HOUSING AUTHORITY TO ENCROACH
INTO AND ACROSS THE RIGHT OF WAY CHESTERFIELD BOULEVARD AT 2971 KIMBALL LOOP WITH A 6-FOOT
WIDE OPEN PILE PIER FOR A TOTAL LENGTH OF 175-FOOT EXTENDING DOWN TO A 15-FOOT BY 15-FOOT
FLOATING PLATFORM AT THE CHANNELWARD TERMINUS OF THE PIER, WITH AN APPROXIMATE 4,200 SQUARE
FOOT CANOE/KAYAK LAUNCH AND A 6-FOOT WIDE CLAM SHELL PATH THAT CROSSES CAUSEY STREET
FOR THE GRANBY VILLAGE COMMUNITY CENTER. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR
READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> AYE. >> MS. WILLIAMS.
>> AYE. >> MR. WINN.
>> AYE. >> MR. FRAIM.
>> AYE. >> R-3, PLEASE.
>> AN ORDINANCE GRANTING PERMISSION TO JAY PATEL T/A VP ON GRANBY, INC., TO ENCROACH
INTO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF GRANBY STREET AT 215 GRANBY STREET AND APPROVING THE TERMS
AND CONDITIONS OF THE ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENT. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR
READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> REAL QUICKLY, IS THIS AN EDIBLE ARRANGEMENT? >> YES.
>> DO THEY SERVE FOOD? >> NOT REALLY.
>> THE SAME AS -- >> IT'S LIKE --
>> THE BASKET. >> INSTEAD OF FLOWERS IT'S FRUIT THAT IS EDIBLE
THAT IS DELIVERED PRIMARILY. >> BUT THEY DON'T SERVE IT LIKE YOU CAN GO
GET A MEAL. >> RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING, WHY THEY
NEED AN OUTDOOR EATING AREA TO COME -- >> THEY ARE PROBABLY HEADED THAT WAY.
>> OKAY. >> I WISH I WAS HEADED THAT WAY.
EDIBLE ARRANGEMENTS DOES SERVE FOOD, YOU CAN EAT ON-SITE, YOU CAN GET SMALL FRUIT COCKTAILS,
SMOOTHIES AND THAT IS THE MATERIAL THEY ARE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO OFFER THEIR CUSTOMERS
A PLACE TO SIT OUTSIDE. >> OH, OKAY, THANK YOU.
WE ALL GOT EDUCATED, DIDN'T WE?
AYE. >> MS. WILLIAMS.
>> AYE. >> MR. WINN.
>> AYE. >> MR. FRAIM.
>> AYE. >> R-4, PLEASE.
>> AN ORDINANCE PERMITTING VILLAS BY THE SEA CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION AND BAY SIDE CONDOMINIUM
ASSOCIATION TO ENCROACH INTO CITY PROPERTY, AT 3152-3198 EAST OCEAN VIEW AVENUE, WITH
A WOOD WALKWAY AND STAIRS. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR
READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> JUST A COUPLE THINGS WITH THIS, THE REST OF THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW AND COUNCILMAN
WINN IS AWARE OF IT, THERE ARE TWO IN A ROW, R-4 AND R-5, THE FIRST THERE IS REALLY NO
OPPOSITION BECAUSE WHEN THE DUNES COMMITTEE MET, THAT IS AN ACCESSIBLE STAIRWAY BECAUSE
IT'S MULTIPLE USING IT, IT WAS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WALKING ON THE DUNES.
R-5 IS AN INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT THAT HAS REQUESTED THIS, YOU WILL HEAR OPPOSITION AND I HAVE
RECEIVED SOME E-MAIL BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THE DUNES COMMITTEE CAME
UP WITH. MY CONCERN IS THAT THE COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA
STILL HAS NOT BEEN TOLD WHAT THE RESULT WERE OF THIS DUNES COMMIT THAT MET A YEAR AGO OR
SO. IT WAS PRESENTED AT A TASK FORCE MEETING BUT
NO PUBLIC INVITATION TO COME TO THE MEETING WHERE IT WAS PRESENTED AND I HAVE CONTINUED
TO ASK THAT THE CITY GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT THIS AFFECTS SO THEY
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ACCESSIBLE NORMS ARE FOR THIS.
SO THAT WHEN WE VOTE ON THESE WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH WHATEVER THE AGREEMENT WAS FROM THE CITIZENS
ON THAT PANEL. SO THIS IS AYE ON THIS.
>> DO WE WANT TO WAIT AND DO BOTH OF THEM? >> FOR THIS ONE, THIS IS --
>> YOU ARE SAYING THEY ARE GOOD WITH R-4 BUT NOT R-5?
>> THE IDEA WITH AS MANY PEOPLE USE ACCESS TO THE BEACH AND CONDO, IT WOULD BE PARALLEL
TO THE BAY AND ONE CROSSES -- >> ONE THING, IF YOU READ THE INDIVIDUAL LANGUAGE
IN THESE, YOU WILL SEE THESE ARE PUBLIC ACCESSWAYS, TECHNICALLY EVEN THOUGH R-5, THIS IS ON A
PRIVATE PROPERTY, IN A SENSE, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M NOT SAYING THAT CORRECTLY, ANYONE
FROM THE PUBLIC CAN WALK OVER TO THIS AND USE IT AS AN ACCESS WAY TO THE BEACH, BUT
I'M NOT SURE IF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE APPLYING FOR THESE, THEY KNOW THIS, THAT THEY CAN'T
PUT UP A SIGN THAT SAYS "NO TRESPASSING" THEY CAN'T PUT UP A BARRICADE WITH A KEY OR GATE
THAT BLOCKS IT. ONCE AGAIN IT JUST EDUCATING THE PEOPLE WHAT
THE AGREEMENTS WERE AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY HAS -- I DON'T THINK COUNCIL HAS
EVEN ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE THAT ACCEPTS WHAT THAT DUNE COMMITTEE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE
CAME UP WITH, THAT WE NEVER ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE THAT ACCEPTED WITH THE DUNES COMMITTEE CAME
UP WITH. >> WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
TWEAKED THE THING TO WHERE WE THOUGHT WE HAD IT RIGHT.
DO WE NEED TO TAKE IT A STEP FARTHER THAN THAT?
>> I DON'T KNOW OF ANY ISSUE WITH IT. YOU AND COUNCILMAN WRIGHT WERE THE MOST INVOLVED
COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE COUNCIL WAS BRIEFED AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT WITHIN MR.
DUKE'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT ARE APPLYING IT. IN THE EVENT THERE IS AN ENVOACHMENT PROPOSED
IS OR NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT
IS NOTING THAT AND RECOMMENDING AGAINST IT, AND, SO, THAT HERE IN THE SECOND ONE, IN R-5
WE'LL IT IS NOT MULTIPLE USE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS OUT SIDE OF THOSE GUIDELINES, BUT
WHAT MR. SMIGIEL SAYS IS RIGHT, THE COUNCIL HASN'T ADOPTED BY AN ORDINANCE, IT WAS PRESENTED
TO THE COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS USING IT.
>> SHOULD WE HAVE ADOPTED IT AS AN ORDINANCE OR WAS IT A GUIDELINE FOREMANNING?
FOR PLANNING. >> IT COULD BE EITHER WAY, IT WOULD HELP WITH
ITS DISEMINATION AND GIVEN PUBLICATION WITH A COUNSEL ACTION.
>> YOU ARE SAYING WE OUGHT TO WAIT ON THIS? >> NO, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
>> I DON'T KNOW OF ANY ISSUES WITH THIS. >> I MEAN --
>> THIS IS THE THIRD ONE SINCE WE HAD THE SETTLEMENT, SO I THINK THAT BEFORE -- WE ARE
GOING TO GET A FEW MORE OF THESE WILL BE COMING IN, WE MIGHT WANT TO TRY TO ADDRESS IT BEFORE
WE START GETTING MORE APPLICATIONS. MOST OF THE ONES COMING BEFORE US WERE GRANDFATHERED
BEFORE THEY CAME TO US, I BELIEVE THESE WERE THE ISSUES WITH THE WALKWAYS AFTER THE NOREASTER
AND THAT'S WHY THEY ARE REAPPLYING FOR IT. >> LET'S FINISH WITH R-4 AND SEE WHERE WE
ARE. OKAY?
>> WE'VE DONE R-4. >> WE HAVEN'T FINISHED THE VOTE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-5, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE PERMITTING JOHN B. MAIR AND
MADELINE MAIR TO ENCROACH INTO CITY PROPERTY, AT 2534 EAST OCEAN VIEW AVENUE, WITH A WOOD
WALKWAY AND STAIRS. >> JUST A SECOND.
BILL CARRIE. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, I LIVE
AT 2330 BAY OAKS PLACE IN OCEAN VIEW. AND --
>> THAT'S IN NORFOLK, RIGHT? >> YES.
NORFOLK. >> THANK YOU.
WE ANNEXED HIS HOUSE. >> COUNSEL MAN SMIGEL TAKEN A LOT OF WHAT
I HAD TO SAY, FIRST OFF I'M HERE TO ASK YOU DO NOT APPROVE THE WALKWAY FOR MR. MAIR.
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE WALKWAY FOR THE CONDOMINIUMS, I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE AND FOR
THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW A COMMITTEE WAS APPOINTED SHORTLY AFTER THE HURRICANES, THERE WERE A
LOT OF ILLEGAL STRUCTURES AND THE HURRICANE TOOK MOST OF THEM OUT, THEY WERE UNSAFE, BUILT
ILLEGALLY, SO THEY HAD A COMMITTEE FORMED AND IT WAS MEMBERS OF ALL THE CIVIC LEAGUE
THAT WERE ON THE CHESS PEAK BAY AND OTHER PEOPLE, I WAS PRESIDENT OF THE OCEAN VIEW
COORDINATING BOARD, THERE WERE 12 TO 18 PEOPLE MET REGULARLY FOR SIX MONTHS OR BETTER, WE
HAD TWO PEOPLE FROM A COMPANY IN NORTH CAROLINA THAT WERE DUNES EXPERTS AND THEY WERE TELLING
US WHAT WAS SAFE WITH DUNES, WHAT WAS BAD FOR DUNES AT A PRETTY GOOD COST TO THE CITY
OF NORFOLK, I'M SURE, AND, ANYWAY, WHAT WE DID IS WE STARTED FROM THE BEGINNING, WE HAD
LECTURES ON IT AND BASICALLY WE CAME UP WITH WHAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED AND WHAT WOULDN'T.
IT WAS THOUGHT THAT CONDOMINIUMS AND TOWN HOMES AND EVERYTHING WHERE A LARGE NUMBER
OF PEOPLE WERE GOING TO WALK OVER THE DUNE, IT WON BETTER TO BUILD A STRUCTURE BECAUSE
EVENTUALLY PEOPLE WOULD DESTROY THE DUNES. AS FOR INDIVIDUALS, THE MAJORITY WAS VOTED
NO, DON'T GIVE THEM CARTE BLANCHE TO INDIVIDUALS. WHAT HAPPENS IS EVENTUALLY WE HAVE A STORM
AND IT WIPES OUT THE FACE OF THE DUNES AND TAKES ALL THESE LITTLE STRUCTURES THAT ARE
BUILT AND WASHES THEM OUT TO SEA SOMEWHERE AND THEN THE PEOPLE HAVE A 11 FOOT, 12 FOOT
DROP, IT TEMPORARY. THERE ARE 15 HOUSES IN THE TWO BLOCKS SURROUNDING
ME. NONE OF US HAVE WALK OVERS, WE WAIT, WE GO
TO THE CITY, WALK OVERS, AND EVENTUALLY IN SIX, SEVEN MONTHS THE DUNE WILL REBUILD AND
WE CAN GO OVER THE DUNE AND WE DON'T NEED STRUCTURES.
ANYWAY, THE COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH GOOD PROPOSALS AND IT WAS VOTED ON, APPROVED AND THEN IT
WENT INTO, I DON'T KNOW WHERE EITHER, BUT BASED ON THAT PLAN, I DO NOT RECOMMEND JOHN
MAIR DO THIS. I WOULD BUY HIS HOUSE TODAY, HE'S EXCAVATED
THE DUNE SO MUCH YOU CAN DRIVE A TRUCK DOWN ON A GENTLE SLOPE AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE'D
PUT THE WALK IF HE HAD IT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT
STUDY BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND CITY SPENT MONEY ON IT.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
IS MR. MAIR HEREBY ANY CHANCE? WHY DON'T WE CONTINUE THE MATTER UNTIL THE
14TH. BECAUSE I HEARD FROM OUR ATTORNEY THAT THE
GUIDELINES AS PROPOSED BY THAT COMMITTEE, THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY IS APPLYING
THEM AND APPLIED THEM IN THIS INSTANCE, WHY DON'T WE GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT, IN THE
MEANTIME WE'LL SEE IF BERNARD DOESN'T WANT TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE, I DON'T KNOW IF
WE TYPICALLY DO THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T BUT IF THERE WAS CONFUSION WHAT WAS
AGREED ON WE CAN BRING IT BACK. >> MR. MAYOR, IT DIDN'T GO AWAY, WE SPENT
A LOT OF TIME WITH PLANNING AND LEGAL AND TRYING TO TWEAK IT WHAT WE COULD LEGALLY DO
AND REASONABLE AND WE NEED TO GET COPIES. >> IT A PACKET ABOUT THIS THICK.
>> IS THE MOTION THE DUNE HAS BEEN DESTROYED? I KNOW THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE BUT IS THAT
WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT THE DUNE HAS BEEN DESTROYED.
>> NO, NO, DURING THE HURRICANE IT WIPES THE FACE OFF, YOU HAVE A 11 FOOT DROP.
>> OKAY. >> BUT YOU SAID YOU COULD DRIVE A TRUCK THROUGH
THERE. >> ON JOHN MAIR'S PROPERTY, HE'S EXCAVATED
THROUGH THE DUNE TO MAKE A GENERAL WALKWAY TO THE BEACH.
>> HOW WOULD HE LEAVE ROSENBURG. >> IF YOU WENT TO SEAT IT --
>> WHY DON'T WE TRY TO GET OUR HAND AROUND IT, MR. MANAGER.
>> LET MAKE AVAILABLE WHAT OUR FINAL DOCUMENT, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T JUST -- IT WAS NOT JUST
IGNORED AND WENT AWAY. I CAN TELL YOU THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME, ENERGY
AND EFFORT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. >> WE CAN BRIEF HOMEOWNERS ALONG BAYSIDE,
WE SUBMITTED COPIES OF IT THAT NIGHT, I BELIEVE MR. CARRIE WAS THERE AND WE FAILED TO SEE
HE GOT A COPY OF IT, BUT WE WILL SEE THE COUNCIL TBETS COPIES OF IT AND -- COUNCIL GETS COPIES
OF IT. >> HOWEVER YOU RECOMMEND.
>> SEE MR. CARRIE GETS A COPY AS WELL. >> WAS THERE ANY PROPERTY TIED TO THE EASEMENT
WE JUST DEALT WITH? >> THESE ARE ON EAST OCEAN VIEW AVENUE, SO
THESE ARE NOT BAYSIDE. >> NO, THAT'S A BIG BITE.
>> IT IS. >> THE MOTION IS --
>> THE ENCROACHMENT WILL GO ACROSS THE BAYSIDE AVENUE WHICH RUNS BETWEEN.
>> OKAY. IS THE 14TH A GOOD TIME TO COME BACK?
CAN YOU DO IT IN TWO WEEKS OR THREE WEEKS RATHER?
>> OKAY. MOTION IS TO CONTINUE TO THE 14TH OF JUNE.
>> MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-6, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE PERMITTING KATE'S CORNER,
LLC, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 320 E. 41ST STREET TO ENCROACH INTO THE CITY
RIGHT-OF-WAY AT 41ST STREET WITH A DRIVEWAY AND A PIER.
DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-7, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND REORDAIN SECTION
25-654 SO AS TO ADD SIXTEEN STOP SIGNS. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR
READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> AYE. >> MS. WILLIAMS.
>> AYE. >> MR. WINN.
>> AYE. >> MR. FRAIM.
>> AYE. >> R-8, PLEASE.
>> AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING $174,943.57 FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, OFFICE
OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, FOR THE "FOUR FOR LIFE" AID-TO-LOCALITY PROGRAM AND APPROPRIATING
AND AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF $174,943.57 FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, OFFICE
OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, FOR THE "FOUR FOR LIFE" AID-TO-LOCALITY PROGRAM TO BE USED
FOR MEDICAL TRAINING PURPOSES AND TO PURCHASE EMERGENCY MEDICAL EQUIPMENT.
>> JUST A SECOND. DAN MONTAGUE?
>> GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL, MR. JONES, MY NAME IS DAN MONTAGUE, I LIVE HERE IN THE
CITY OF NORFOLK. I'M SO HAPPY YOU GUYS ARE GETTING $175,000
FROM THE STATE TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR HEALTH PROGRAM.
NOW I WANT YOU GUYS, THE CITY, TO HELP DAN MONTAGUE WITH HIS HEALTH PROGRAM AND THAT
IS IN THE COMING MONTHS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MUSIC DOWN AT THE OCEAN VIEW PARK AND ALSO
HERE AT TOWN POINT PARK AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS I GET DOWN THERE EARLY AND I GET ME
A GOOD PLACE TO SIT AND I'M SITTING THERE ENJOYING THE MUSIC AND I GET UP TO DANCE TO
IT EVERY SO OFTEN BUT THE THING ABOUT IT IS IS SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME I DO IT SOME DUMMY
ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE SEATS OVER FROM ME WILL LIGHT UP A CIGARETTE AND I HAVE TO BREATHE
SECOND HAND SMOKE. NOW, IF I CAN QUIT SMOKING COLD TURKEY DOING
THREE PACKS A DAY, AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS DOING IT, THAT WAS BEFORE THE PATCH AND EVERYTHING,
I HAVEN'T HAD A CIGARETTE IN 40 YEARS, OKAY? AND THE THING IS WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO SUCK
DOWN SOMEBODY ELSE'S SMOKE SO CAN I LISTEN TO SOME GOOD BEACH MUSIC?
NEW YORK CITY PASSED SUCH AN ORDINANCE, WHY CAN'T NORFOLK FOLLOW THE NEW YORK CITY FOOTSTEPS.
NEW YORK CITY IS WAY AHEAD OF US ON A LOT OF ISSUES, LIKE I SAY, I'M GETTING SICK AND
TIRED OF HAVING TO BREATHE OTHER PEOPLE'S SMOKE AND IF PEOPLE HAD SEEN MY LATE WIFE
THE LAST TWO YEARS OF HER LIFE SUCKING ON AN OXYGEN TANK BECAUSE SHE SMOKED TOO LATE
IN HER LIFE, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, I WAS 30 WHEN I QUIT AND, ANYWAY, SHE WAS 46 WHEN SHE QUIT,
BUT THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING, WE DON'T NEED CIGARETTE SMOKE AROUND FOR EVERY ONE WHO DOESN'T
SMOKE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT OUR ABILITY IS TO REGULATE.
I KNOW FOR INSTANCE AT HARBOR PARK WE CAN BAN IT, I KNOW WE HAVE PLENTY OF AUTHORITY
ON INDOOR FACILITY, OUTDOOR -- >> GIVEN OUR RULE WE HAVE TO GO OVER THAT
LEGISLATION, BUT IT IMPACTED US IN THE RESTAURANT BUT WE WILL GET YOU INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR
DISCRETION FOR PARKS. >> THANK YOU.
THE R-9, PLEASE.
>> A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO ACCEPT TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS
PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF NORFOLK IN THE FY2012 REVENUE SHARING PROGRAM.
DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-10, PLEASE. >> A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED ROADWAY
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE JAMESTOWN CRESCENT CULVERT OVER COLLEY
BAY BETWEEN BOLLING AVENUE AND MAGNOLIA AVENUE, AND ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS; REQUESTING FUNDING
FOR SUCH PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $375,000 THROUGH THE FY2012 VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION REVENUE SHARING PROGRAM; AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE PROJECT ADMINISTRATION
AGREEMENTS. ADOPT THE RESOLUTION?
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-11, PLEASE. >> A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF SECOND STREET AND BRAMBLETON
AVENUE; REQUESTING FUNDING FOR SUCH PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $250,000 THROUGH THE FY2012
VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REVENUE SHARING PROGRAM; AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION
OF THE PROJECT ADMINISTRATION AGREEMENTS. ADOPT RESOLUTION.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-12, PLEASE. >> A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED ROADWAY
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE KIMBALL TERRACE CULVERT OVER OHIO CREEK
AND ASSOCIATED DRAINAGE AND PATHWAY IMPROVEMENTS; REQUESTING FUNDING FOR SUCH PROJECT IN THE
AMOUNT OF $250,000 THROUGH FY2012 VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REVENUE SHARING
PROGRAM; AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE PROJECT ADMINISTRATION AGREEMENTS.
ADOPT RESOLUTION.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-13, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE ACCEPTANCE OF
A DONATION OF $18,828.68 FROM OLD DOMINION UNIVERSITY FOR FUNDING OF THE ELIZABETH RIVER
WETLANDS RESTORATION AND WATERFRONT ACCESS PROJECT UNDER THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF
THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, OLD DOMINION UNIVERSITY AND THE U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS,
NORFOLK DISTRICT REGARDING THE WETLANDS RESTORATION PROJECT.
>> ELLIS JAMES, PLEASE? MAY BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
WORKS PROJECT. >> THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER, JONES, MY
NAME IS ELLIS W. JAMES, I RESIDE HERE IN THE CITY OF NORFOLK AT 2021 KENLAKE PLACE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SIMPLY ENTER FOR THE RECORD SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
I COULD BE CUTE ABOUT IT AND SAY BUT I SURE HOPE THE CITY MANAGER HAS SOMEBODY WHO IS
GOING TO MONITOR THESE FUNDS THAT WE'RE SENDING TO THE FEDS IN VIEW OF HOW WE'VE BEEN TREATED
BY SOME OF THE FEDERAL AGENCIES. BUT IT IS AN EXCELLENT PROJECT AND IT CERTAINLY
DESERVES SUPPORT AND I DO HOPE THAT WE WILL SEE MORE FAVORABLE EXPRESSIONS OF SUPPORT
FOR NORFOLK'S NEEDS, SPECIALLY VIS-A-VIS THE FLOODING ISSUES AND SO ON FROM THE CORPS.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
CALL THE ROLL.
>> DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-14, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE
OF UP TO $600,000.00 FROM FY10 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT BUDGET FUNDS HERETOFORE APPROPRIATED
FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREAS.
DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-15, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING $357,140 FROM THE
VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FISCAL YEAR 2010 HOMELAND SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM
AND APPROPRIATING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF THE FUNDS FOR THE PURCHASE OF LICENSE PLATE
READERS FOR THE HAMPTON ROADS URBAN AREA SECURITY INITIATIVE REGION GRANT PROGRAM.
DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
R-16, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION
TO PERMIT THE OPERATION OF AN EATING AND DRINKING ESTABLISHMENT ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 201 WEST
21ST STREET, UNIT #9. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
>> WE HAVE A SPEAKER TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF WE HAVE ANY.
THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.
>> CALL THE ROLL. >> DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR
READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> AYE. >> MS. WILLIAMS.
>> AYE. >> MR. WINN.
>> AYE. >> MR. FRAIM.
>> AYE. >> R-17, PLEASE.
>> AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO PERMIT THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5030 EAST PRINCESS ANNE ROAD, SUITE B.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR
READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> AYE. >> MS. WILLIAMS.
>> AYE. >> MR. WINN.
>> AYE. >> MR. FRAIM.
>> AYE. R-18, PLEASE.
>> AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO PERMIT THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
FOR OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6506 EAST VIRGINIA BEACH BOULEVARD.
DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
R-19, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION
TO PERMIT THE OPERATION OF A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 111 AND 113 WEST INDIAN
RIVER ROAD. >> MR. MCNAIR, WILLIE MCNAIR, HE'S HERE TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF WE HAVE ANY. I THINK WE'RE GOOD, THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.
>> DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
R-20, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING $58,230 FROM THE
VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE SERVICES FOR THE JUVENILE ACCOUNTABILITY BLOCK GRANT
PROGRAM, APPROPRIATING AND AUTHORIZING THE EXPENDITURE OF THE GRANT FUNDS AND $6,470
IN LOCAL CASH MATCHING FUNDS FOR THE PROGRAM FOR TOTAL PROGRAM FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF
$64,700. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR
READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> AYE. >> MS. WILLIAMS.
>> AYE. >> MR. WINN.
>> AYE. >> MR. FRAIM.
>> AYE. R-21, PLEASE.
>> AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO PERMIT THE EXPANSION OF A NONCONFORMING
USE ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1806 HAMPTON BOULEVARD. >> ANN CRENSHAW IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
IF WE HAVE ANY. THANK YOU.
CALL THE ROLL.
>> DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
R-22, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE APPROVING AMENDMENTS TO THE
LEASE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF NORFOLK AND GRANBY STREET PROPERTIES, L.L.C., FOR
CERTAIN PREMISES KNOWN AS SUITES 100, 102, 103, 200, 400 AND 500, IN THE TAZEWELL BUILDING
AT 100 BROOKE AVENUE, SO AS TO EXTEND THEIR TERM TO DECEMBER 31, 2016, ACCEPTING THE RELATED
EARLY TERMINATION OF THE LEASE FOR THE PREMISES KNOWN AS SUITE 604 VACATED BY THE MAGISTRATE,
AND ACCEPTING THE GRANT BY GRANBY STREET PROPERTIES, L.L.C., TO THE CITY OF A LICENSE TO INSTALL
A FIBER OPTIC CONDUIT AT 100 BROOKE AVENUE. >> JUST A SECOND.
ERICH MENDEN. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS,
I LIVE AT 513 IN CHESS PEAK, VIRGINIA. I'D LIKE YOU TO TABLE THIS VOTE FOR NOW AND
LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER A BIDDING I CURRENTLY OWN IN NORFOLK, THE WAINWRITE BUILDING, IT'S
50% EMPTY, I THINK WE WOULD DO IT AT A CURRENT RATE AND SAVE THE CITY SOME MONEY.
THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.
ALL RIGHT, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
>> DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
R-23, PLEASE. >> A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED ROADWAY
IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING INTERSECTION AND BRIDGE STRUCTURE
AT THE INTERSECTION OF TIDEWATER DRIVE AND LITTLE CREEK ROAD; REQUESTING FUNDING FOR
SUCH PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,437,500 THROUGH THE FY2012 VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
REVENUE SHARING PROGRAM; AND AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION OF THE PROJECT ADMINISTRATION AGREEMENTS.
ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> I DO HOIP WE GET THIS MONEY, IF ANYBODY
HAS BEEN TO THAT UNDER PASS, IT IS AN ARMPIT. AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
>> R-24, PLEASE. >> AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE CONVEYANCE TO
THE CITY OF NORFOLK BY DAVID M. SCANLIN OF A CERTAIN PARCEL OF PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS
0.112 ACRE OF LAND AS SHOWN ON THE PLAT ENTITLED, 'RE-SUBDIVISION CREATING PARCEL X AND PARCEL
Y ON GILPIN AVENUE, NORFOLK, VIRGINIA,' AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ACCEPT THE
DEED ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR
READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> AYE. >> MS. WILLIAMS.
>> AYE. >> MR. WINN.
>> AYE. >> MR. FRAIM.
>> AYE. R-25, PLEASE.
>> AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING CERTAIN PUBLIC AREAS AND STREETS OF THE CITY OF NORFOLK AS
THE 'FESTIVAL AREA' AND SETTING FORTH THE REGULATIONS APPLICABLE TO SUCH FESTIVAL AREA
FOR THE NORFOLK HARBORFEST 2011 CELEBRATION. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR
READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> AYE. >> MS. WILLIAMS.
>> AYE. >> MR. WINN.
>> AYE. >> MR. FRAIM.
>> AYE. R-26, PLEASE.
>> AN ORDINANCE CLOSING CERTAIN CITY-OWNED DOCKS TO PUBLIC USE DURING THE NORFOLK HARBORFEST
2011 CELEBRATION. DISPENSE WITH THE CHARTER REQUIREMENT FOR
READING THE ORDINANCE AND ADOPT. MR. BURFOOT.
>> AYE. >> MR. PROTOGYROU.
>> AYE. >> MR. SMIGIEL.
>> AYE. >> MS. WILLIAMS.
>> AYE. >> MR. WINN.
>> AYE. >> MR. FRAIM.
>> AYE. DO YOU HAVE AN ADD ON?
>> YES, RESOLUTION APPOINTING ONE PERSON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
NICE GOING.
THAT CONCLUDES TONIGHT'S FORMAL AGENDA. THANK YOU.