Election 2012: The June Primary


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>>AMITA: . . . should we be seeing him higher? What does it say? I think 16% of the vote
is in, should we worry right now? >> >>: He'll be nervous just like all candidates
are, but the move he did that got him in contention, the state would national spot light and got
San Diegans paying attention for the first time to this mayoral contest was the brilliant
move och principal over party. He wouldn't be in this discussion if he hadn't
moved to the independent party. He would have been stuck where District Attorney
Bonnie Dumanis is which is sort of trying to gain steam from the middle but having trouble.
That leap frogged him into the lead and it might, just might, by the end of the night
get him into the November run off. >> >>: Let's talk about congressman Bob Filner.
I think the big knock against him is that he was short on specifics.
He didn't leave a lot of muppie. People say it's assumed he would ride on that
Democratic train, as you put it. It may have served him well, but going forward,
with Carl DeMaio, what does he have to do to quote, bring it home.
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: Congressman Filner needs to answer the big quest question in San Diego
politics dominating the discussion for the last 10 years what are you going to do about
the pension crisis, the long term fix. Congressman Filner, we're seeing from voters
a real demand to reform propositions with their pension votes I think congressman Filner
neet need said to clearly articulate a plan whether it's prop B or something different,
have a permanent fixture for the pension plan problem in San Diego.
>> >>AMITA: Did you expect democrats to carry Bob Filner this far?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: This is a city that has been trending blue expr bluer over the last
10 or 15 years where democrats now have a substantial majority.
Congressman Filner expected that would give him at least one of the seats in November.
If San Diego where democrats have this huge registration lead can't put at least one democrat
into the top two in November, inying the democratic party needs to seriously reevaluate where
it is and what it can d do to get more cross over appeal.
>> >>AMITA: I want to talk about disa Bonnie Dumanis, when she entered this race, she was
seen as a major player, she was endorsed by Mayor Jerry sanders and yet, she is in fourth
place and that's how she's polled throughout the campaign.
Did Mayor Jerry sanders not have coat tails to ride in on?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think Mayor Jerry sanders' endorsement haven't carried over to propositions
like we've seen in elections and don't seem to have carried over to the District Attorney
here y.think much more important in San Diego politics because of the way our campaign financial
system works is the endorsement of the parties reaching out to all their members.
Carl DeMaio and Bob Filner have Ben flted from those member communications by parties.
That means more that money talks much more than any Mayor.
>> >>AMITA: Pension reform was one of the big campaign issues for the mayoral candidates.
Today San Diegans got to vote on the pension reform proposal.
We go back to Dwane for the vote counts. >> >>DWANE: A reminder, these are early returns
on proposition B, the pension reform measure. At this very moment the polls just closed
at 8:00Êp.m., we're getting a yes on prop B69%, no vote 30%, and that is a count of
116 of the more than 700 pre sink ts. Proposition B, by the way would put most new
city hires intoÊ it was supported by all the mayoral candidates except krawjman Bob
Filner who said he wants to take a different approach to pension reform.
The other measure tonight before San Diego city voters was proposition A dealing with
project labor agreements or PLAs. Prop A would prevent the city from maying
a con contractor sign a PLA. One other exception is if a PLA a condition
to receive state or federal funding for a project.
You can see it is leading with a yes vote of 59% to 40, and tat is based on 116 PR ECINCTS
at this early hour. Let's go back over to Amita.
>> >>AMITA: You can see proposition B is at 69%, not a surprise.
But this seems to be somewhat of an up hill battle.
It's basically takes the savings from freezing city workers' salaries, but there is no guarantee
that city work salaries are going to be frozen. You have to get city council members that
would go for that, thet then get the city council members to negotiate with labor unions
and make sure that wage freeze happens. How much of this do you think voters are aware
of? And if they are aware of this, what kind of message are they sending to unions?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think both of these initiatives they're really complex, but their lr simple
for voters. They're a referendum on union power.
I think what we've seen across the country with Wisconsin governor Scott walker surviving
by a large margin is that voters seem to be turning against laib expr what they've seen
as sort of excessively beneficial public union employment contracts.
So this is an election that with tonight's results starting to feel a lot more like 2010
with the tea party than it does like 2008 with president Obama's land slide and these
two propositions seem to send a very clear signal to San Diego law makers.
Whether they'll be able to make all these changes, the contract, chaisk the vote, will
have to be seen. >> >>AMITA: What if they can't? Then what?
Do voters care, follow this, what happens? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: Paul titionzsÊ nothing
speaks clearly to a politician like a vote of the people and whether it's prop 13 or
the recall of governor grey Davis, politicians in stak Sacramento responded by reversing
course and giving the voters what they said they wanted.
If prop B does win by an over well ming margin that might break it.
>> >>AMITA: Is this all about wanting to weaken unions?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think this is all about public savings and trying to get San Diego
out of its budget crisis. We've rejected tax increases a few years ago
and this is saying that unions should share some of the pain in order to get us through
this budget crisis. That seems to be what voters are saying.
>> >>AMITA: Is this a measure and it does look like it's going to pass, is this a measure
you think is likely to end up in court? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: Just about everything ends
up in court these days and when you're frying to change contracts, ab absolutely there will
be litigation. >> >>AMITA: Let's talk quickly about proposition
A, the two points to be made regarding proposition A; one is that if this does pass, that the
city of San Diego may lose millions of dollars in state funding because the legislation that
bars giving state money to cities that have that ban these labor agreements on municipal
projects. Again, I have to ask, how aware are voters
of these different elements? Do they know that the city could then lose millions of
dollars and interest rates could also go up on loans?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: Some voters become public policy experts and read their whole ballot
pamphlet. What we know from election after election
in California, and our direct democracy as well, most voters figure out who's on each
side, who do I trust, how am I feeling about politics and that's how they make their decision.
What we see here again this seems to be a defeat for unions at a time when voters are
not sympathetic to public sector unions or ones work in private construction.
>> >>AMITA: Likely also if you vote for proposition B you're probably voting for prop A.
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: Uh huh. That probably care as through to Carl DeMaio.
He tied himself to this like Pete Wilson tied himself to prop wn 87, illegal immigration.
That clears messages to voters and I think it helped him at the polls.
>> >>AMITA: More on that. We're going to go back to Dwane now, we have
our first update from golden hall. >> >>DWANE: That's right, Amita, KPBS metro
reporter Katie Orr joins us via Skype. Can you hear me?
>> >>: Yeah, hi Dwane. >> >>DWANE: Set the mood for us.
Tell us who's there. >> >>: Well, it's getting to be filled up
here in golden hall. Mayor Jerry sanders has been walk ug round.
Of course he was a big backer o f prop B which appears to be doing very well, initial return
of 69% approval. Proposition A appears to be passing which
would eliminate project labor agreements in the city of San Diego.
So a lot of different supporters coming in. We haven't seen any of the major mayoral candidates
yet. They're staying stuck tuckedway with their
campaigns until they're more sure of their results.
We should be getting more results at around 9:30Êp.m.
>> >>DWANE: Katie, we're going to talk about the city council races next.
Is there anything in that regard you can tell us at this early hour?
>> >>: The initial returns had grey Ellis beeght Sherri Lightner in district one.
Ray Ellis is Republican, Sherri Lightner is incumbent democrat.
We'll have to see how today's returns factor into that race, but he was edging her out.
Also, Scott Sherman, the Republican, was beating Matt Kostrinsky in district 7, he was leading
that race as well in the early returns. Of course, Matt cursey was running unopposed
in district 5, the Republican, so he has already secured that office.
If these results stand as they are now, the city council will swing towards thes the Republican
party which could be interesting depending on who is eventually elected Mayor.
>> >>DWANE: All right, metro reporter Katie Orr at golden hall tonight with the early
results coming in. We'll certainly hear back from you.
Right now, we're going to turn it back over to Amita in a moment and and we'll talk about
the district one race in the city council. >> >>AMITA: Let's talk about that district
one. >> >>DWANE: At this hour, we did get some
of the earlier results we'll go to Amita in just a moment.
This is district one in the city council race, ray Ellis leading, Sherri Lightner, the incumbent,
45 to 41, percent, 12 of the 93 PR ECINCTS reporting.
District searvetion Scott Sherman leading that race, Matt costrings kea, Sherman with
51% leading, these are early returns as we've been mentioning and we will continue to say
that throughout the night. As you can see, Marti emerald, the city council
woman who is moving to district 9, leading soundly over Mateo camarillo.
Seventy three% to 26%, and it is early. >> >>AMITA: So let's talk about that district
one race. Sherri Lightner is behind Republican challenger
ray Ellis. She doesn't seem to be ride riding the benefits
of incumbents, why is that? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: This isn't necessarily
an elect or t pro incumbent mood. From the state to the national to local whrekses,
this is a tough year for incumbents. This has always been a marginal seat and one
that's closely contested. Still, to see two districts that are trending
Republican really makes it seem like this is a red election and something which we saw
at the national level in 2010 not so much in California, maybe some of those national
trends are coming to this state this year. >> >>AMITA: How much of this makes sense giver
n that democrats out number Republicans in the city of San Diego.
>> >>DWANE: Democrats have that advantage for awhile but.
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: Vnt been able to elect a Mayor.
A third of the voteiesfor Mayor. Even though San Diego has a big democratic
a lot of democrat voters have been choosing Republican party.
Democrats are bt going to be able to hold what they've gained in recent elections in
San Diego. >> >>AMITA: The one comments read between
district one and district 7 and s who the top candidates were endorsed by in district
one Republican ray Ellis was endorsed by Carl DeMaio.
He's leading: In district 7, Republican ray ShermanÊ or ray Ellis was endorsed by Carl
DeMaio. I'm sorry, it's Scott Sherman who was endorsed
by Carl DeMaio, and both of them are leading. What does councilman Carl DeMaio's endorsement
mean in these races? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think his endorsement
may not be as important as the Republican party's endorsement and financial support.
What this means is that they're eventually elected, and it looks likeÊ if Carl DeMaio
becomes the next Mayor of San Diego, he can potentially claim that he has coat tails,
that he has a mandate and he'll certainly have two key allies and a working majority
on the city council. Weel we've talked about party affiliation,
once your on the city council in the day to day business of the city council, how much
does party affiliation account for? Sph. >> >>THAD KOUSSER: Most folks on the city
council are actually unanimous. There's a lot most parties agree on.
When there are tough issues, you see time and time again, the two parties lining u up
against each other f.you look at role call, you see a lot of party line voting whenever
there's a division. For a long time in San Diego, that's meant
divided government, Republican Mayor and democrats work, majority is on council.
Grid locking in our government, that's arguably lead to we're not going to raise takszs or
cut services let's bar from our pension plan. That race lead to some of these problems and
San Diegans may be sending a signal they want one party in control of both branches of San
Diego government. >> >>AMITA: The Republican party endorsement
versus the democrat party, I think endorses Matt Kostrinsky.
Who's stronger in terms of endorsements? When the Republican party endorses do they pour
much more money than when the democratic party endorses?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: They may have a funding advantage these days in San Diego politics
those democrats have been able to raise money to stay competitive in many of these races.
The next hundred thousand may not benefit you all that much.
I think what we're seeing is if these very pre lim nary result dooz hold, what we're
seeing is really a reaction by voters sort of sitting with what they set up propositions.
Let's not raise tax z taxes, cut unions and backing the Republican leaders who es powzed
all those policy positions. There's a national thread in these election
results. >> >>AMITA: There are four congressional seats
up for grabs this year. Dwane's got the first return.
>> >>DWANE: One of the most contested races in the 52nd.
We want to note the registrar of votersis to scheduled to release more numbers at about
9:30Êp.m. These are the first tally of voter by mail
ballots. We'll start with one of the most hotly contested
races, in the 52nd, Bryan biBrian Bilbray, leading, Scott Peters, little lower than 22%,
Lorie Salda„a in third with 21%, and the numbers go down for there.
That's only 55% of the more than 430 PR ENCINCTS. Congressman Bilbray is in Washington, we did
speak with him earlier on the phone just before the polls closed at 8.
>> >>: Congressman Bilbray, the polls closed 10 minutes ago, right now you've captured
about 41% of the vote. I very pre lim nary returns with about 12.7%
of the vote counted. Given us some incite.
How do you think things going so far? >> >>: I think it's just really surpriseing
how close Lorie Salda„a and Mr.ÊPeters is with how much money was spent by Mr.ÊPeters
in that race. It's really surprising just to see the massive
amount of television and capital spent and for that to be such a close race.
It's very interesting for those of us that know how much campaign effort was put in.
>> >>AMITA: That's right, Scott Petersis at 22.29% and Laurie sal dawn Lorie Salda„aÊ
congressman, you now represent a democratic majority district, oppose abortion rights,
same sex marriage, and financed the Grover Norquist antitax pledge.
Given the majority of your constituents might we see you change your view on some of these
issues? >> >>: First of all, I've been pro choice
for decades. I actually did the family planning and the
community clinics in San Diego county for 10 years as a county supervisor.
So the fact is that my local experience in & non partisan in non partisan office especially
in this district. Most of the new part of the district, places
like Ocean Beach, and Pacific beach, I represented for a long time in fact Point Loma and Pacific
beach and Coronado I represented almost 16 years; 10 years as a non partisan county supervisor
and six years as a congressman. You know, it's the relationship they've had
with me for a long time. That's the type of representation they've
had in the past, and that's why people like the port district or Mayor sanders when they
need said somebody to help to get the federal government out of the way of creating jobs,
of working with like the cruise industry to bring in jobs.
They've come to meevment this is a long relationship. This is a district that I was literally born
in. So I think people know Brian better than a lot of people bhoo are political punditses
on this issue. >> >>AMITA: How do you plan to cultivate democratic
voters? >> >>: The biggest issue is I've never allowed
partisan politics get in the way. Getting phone calls of tonight of people that
are upset that I no longer running in their town, people from Del Mar calling and saying,
you know, I'm a democrat and you're the one Republican I've always supported and I yunt
to know why aren't you on my ballot. I say this is the redistricting process, which
is one of the greatest honors you can have as a representative.
When it comes down to the crisis before our community, you know, the latest job numbers,
you know, you don't know if you're a democrat or Republican or independent.
Unemployment is unemployment. The economic down turns are a big crisis.
As somebody who has actually been a regulator, serving on the air relations board as coastal
commissioner, I know that government can be a big problem to creating jobs.
We can be a great ally if we are sensitive to the fact that we don't have to destroy
economic opportunity and job growth to save the quality of life.
We just gotta be willing to do the right thing, which is not always the easiest thing.
>> >>AMITA: As you know under California's new primary rules, the top in for state and
federal offices face off in November, ir respective of their party affiliation.
What do you think of these new rules? >> >>: I think it's a brave new world.
I think I'm kind of excited about it as somebody who's never depended on party affiliation.
Going back to when I was a 27 year old Mayor, the fact is that I think it's exciting to
see that voters are able to vote for the best person regardless of party affiliation even
in the primary. So I think this is going to be a really brave
new world, but I think it's exciting. I think it hopefully it will help to drive
politics into the center at least in San Diego, and in California.
Maybe the rest of the country will take a look at this.
We've got a lot of big changes going on, and maybe we can set an example for the rest of
the country to follow, including you know the initiatives that San Diego looks like
they're ready to pass. Those are issues that say that those of us
in the public sector must recognize that's the cost of our government service needs to
be controlled so the private sector has enough money to create the jobs that are desperately
needed to create the economic growth that creates the tax base that payiesfor all the
public sector. >> >>AMITA: Congressman Bilbray, thank you
so much for your time and your comments this evening.
I imagine you'll be glued to your television set for the rest of the night.
>> >>: Absolutely. Well, as much as I can back here.
Actually, thank you very much, I appreciate it.
>> >>DWANE: Another closely watch race is for the 51 congressional district.
We have some of the early results right now. There are three other congressional districts
at stake here in disairks the 51, we see Juan Vargas leading the pack, with 47 and a half
percent of the vote. That's just counting 42 pre sink ts.
Michael criminal, followed by Denise duh Cheney. In the 52nd congressional district has more
democrats as we heard u meeght uh talking about.
It has been redrawn you're looking right now at district 49, that's where Darrell Issa,
the incumbent is leading strongly with more than 62% of the vote at this early stage,
Jerry taughtalman is in second, and then the 50th district, Duncan D. hunter, the Republican,
is leading with more than 64% of the vote. We also have more as we talked about in the
district races for congress, 53, Susan Davis, the incumbent leading 57% over Nic Popaditch.
There are two competitive districts for the San Diego city council.
District one may be wide open, incumbent Sherri Lightner is fighting three challenges.
In district 7, Rick Hauptfeld andÊ marlty emerald, expected to win district 9.
Let's head back over to Amita and thad for more.
>> >>AMITA: Thad, let's go right back to the 52nd congressional district where congressman
Bilbray is leading with about 41% of the vote, and Scott Peters as well as Lorie Salda„a
are at around 22 and twoo 21%. Going forward, Bilbray is still representing
a district that is dominated by democrats. What are his vulnerabilities going forward?
Snoo. >> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think that's his vulnerability.
It's not dominated by democrats. It's one o the hand full of toss up districts
in California that will help determine the balance of representatives this year.
The good news so far for congressman Bilbray is that he's out clearly ahead, that's why
he's in Washington disvment C., he's going to skate through with 41% of the vote.
It th the bad newsis if you add up the two dem support, that gets you a dead heat. The
expectation is that voter whose voted for one of those two democrats in June will stick
with the other, eventual democrat who makes it to the ballot in November.
That's what will make this a toss up disis rct.
>> >>AMITA: What do we see congressman Bilbray do now? To the center, subtly, drum t clea?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think he's been a center right candidate much of his career.
It's hard to reinvent yourself over the course of the summer.
I think what he's doing tonight is srt sort of like Carl DeMaio.
He is leading the Lorie Salda„a for congress victory chants and, you know, burning the
insense, and hoping that she'll win because he sees her as a more liberal democrat, and
Scott Peters as the more moderate center who might be able to pick up both her supporters
and the some in the middle. Some of the campaign have helped Lorie Salda„a
and hurt Scott Peters. >> >>AMITA: Whoever ends up being his opponent
will certainly hit him hard on issues like Bilbray having signed the Grover Norquist
no tax pledge and opposing same sex marriage. Do you think he might shift on those issues?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: I don't think you can unsign that tax pledge.
You can't change on a single moral issue like same sex marriage.
What you can do is talk about jobs, jobs, jobs, which at a time when the economy seems
to be faltering, it seems like it will be a whipping issue for Republicans in November,
and emphasize fiscal responsibility, and everything that your party has been staik staking its
position on and in some ways tie yourself to hope there's a Mitt Romney tied to follow
in nrve. >> >>AMITA: What about congressional grid
lock, voters everywhere are absolutely fed up how much of a sleugdz solution or a pledge
do these candidates have to offer voters in terms of explaining how they might help reduce
that grid lock? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: That's what makes it hard
as an incumbent this year especially in congress. Voters don't like what congress is doing,
and they seem to be blaming the Republican majority, more than they're blaming president
Obama right now. Congressman Bilbray has to emphasize he has
worked across the aislessism everything you heard today will be the same he says over
the course of this election. >> >>AMITA: We'll be coming back to you shortly.
This year a seat on the county board of supervisors wentd open for the first time in 16 years,
that's the third district seat currently held by Pam slater price.
We go back to Dwane now. >> >>DWANE: Thats thanks Amita.
In fablght, it's just after 9:30Êp.m. We're expecting another update from the county
registrar of voters here currently. Steve Dannon leading, early results, over
Dave Roberts, 31% to 30, followed by Carl Hilliard, and Brian Ziegler, and Steven Pate.
We also have another district supervisor race, number one, Greg Cox, the incumbent leading
soundly over brant will, and in district number 2, Diane Jacob leading Rudy Reyez 78% to 21%
in the early results. We also have some other results to tell you
about. Voters also choases chose members of the county
board of education. Three seats were up for grabs today.
Let's take a look at some of the earlier results. County board of education in the first district,
John whit witness leading the pack, 39%, Greg Robinson following in second, followed by
bob cornELIUS, also on the county board of education we've got trustees for the financially
troubled county unified school district and in that race as you can see on the screen,
John whit, Greg Robinson and bob cornELIUS. There were two propositions on the state would
ballot today. I'm talking about proposition 28, the term
limits measure, limiting candidates to serving no more than 12 years in the state legislature,
here are some of the early results on that state would vote.
We are waiting for some results on that state would proposition.
Right now let's go back over to Amita and thad.
>> >>AMITA: Okay, so prop 28, this is the term limit proposition, it would increase
the time a state law maker can spend in either the assembly or the state senate.
However, it reduces the overall time that they can spend in the state legislature from
14 to 12 years. How much sense does this make, how much significant
is this? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think, and I'll admit
to a conflict of interest here. I've backed this initiative in a lot of research
fundings. Point to it the hope of the yes campaign is
that this will help keep voters more time to actually get on a committee, chair it,
become a policy expert prt, and sort of honor the voter's will of keeping term limits close
but let candidates have 12 years to really fulfill what voters want and this will make
a big difference in Sacramento politics. >> >>AMITA: I want to talk aboutÊ there was
a story in Sacramento the other day, about how prop 28 didn't real get any financial
support from ordinary people. But it actually did receive a lot of money
from special interest groups; business owners, lawyers, CEOsÊ why do you think that is?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: This is an initiative that real hasn't run a campaign.
All the money came in the ballot qualification stage, it was funded by the L.A. county federation
of labor and the chamber of commerce in L.A. Those groups got together and got some of
their supporters to put it on the ballot. We haven't seen much spending on this.
This has been a stealth initiative, where is there a proposition 28? All we're larying
about is prop 29 and big tobacco and cancer research, whether this is a good idea or not
that is to round out any conversation on 28. >> >>AMITA: On prop 29, everybody gave.
Home makers gave, teachers gaisk, doctors gave.
People feel connected to this measure, don't they?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: Uh huh, yeah, prop 28 is about inside baseball.
It's about how Sacramento works. People who pay attention to that, they think
it's a great thirng or a terrible thing. Prop 29 has a lot of financial stake, if you're
a smoker it's going to cost you a dollar a pack more.
If you're in favor of cancer research, this is going to bring 735Êmillion dollars a year.
This is big money. That's why we've seen spending on either side
butÊ for folk ons both sides of the smoking issue.
>> >>AMITA: Bloger Steve Kyleer said that prop 29's passage would represent the triumph
of good over evil. Is that how voters see it?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: That's the yes side. I think it would represent the defeelt of
one large moneyed interest that is overwhelminglyÊ there's much more money in the no side than
on the yes. That woopt be anything all that new in California
politics. Just two years ago we had the same thing with
PG & E spending $20Êmillion or so on an initiative that ended up losing.
We do see voters bucking the big money, in initiatives all the time, if they pass prop
29, they'll be participating ane California tradition.
>> >>AMITA: I know that big tobacco, one of their strategies is to form coalitions to
defeat initiatives like this. When they do form coalitions who workswith
them? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: Well, they've beenÊ there's
always a question of the credibility of the folks who you see on advertisements in a bhiet
coat that are funded at the end when you see it by Phillip Morris.
There's also a question of the folks in the medical community being rems to work with
tobacco. There are some good reasons to vote against
it. Most of the newspapers in California, like
the L.A. times editorialize no on 29. Not many folks like to associate with big
tobacco. >> >>AMITA: That's right.
I want to clarify something we said earlier. Congressman Brian Bilbray said during our
earlier interview, pro choice poor marks for voting against funding for planned parenthood.
Though the congressman says he remains pro choice.
Dwane's got results now for several state assembly seats.
>> >>DWANE: Thanks Amita, let's go down them one by one.
As you mentioned 7 state assembly seats up for grabs.
In the 71 district, we've gotÊ we're going to get those resultswhen they come in. We're
covering the 71, 55, girks 57, 58, goirntion 79th and 80th districts.
Log on to KPBS.org/election for up to dateÊ 71, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79th and 80th districts.
One the 39th district, election results in that area.
Marti block, the incumbent tied with George PLESHA at this moment, 44% a piece, Patrick
Marsh in second place f you would with 10%. Of course, these are early results.
Here are some of theÊ some election tid bits. About 40% of registered voters in the county
were actually expected to vote today and more than 60% of them were expected to vote by
mail in ballot. Let's go back to Amita and Thad for more.
>> >>AMITA: Election watchers are closely looking at California's new rule that actually
only mandates that the top two vote getters in any race whether it be state races, or
ned federal races, move on to face each other in a November election.
How might this change the balance of power? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: This knocks parties out
of the primary process in a few real ways t.means you are no longer picking nominees
who will care that party's banner because no party is guaranteed a seat in November.
That could mean a lot of districts that have two Republicans running like many in orange
Orange County seem, or like two democrats running in November like some bay area districts,
and even one majority democrat district in VENTURA, it looks like it is so split there
will be two republicans on the primary ballots. That could help the parties figure out how
to play this game right from the start. For voters, this means a lot more choices.
We walked in n to our ballot placesÊ those of us who actually walked in, probably the
second lowest turn out in California times. We sai saw candidates saying no party, some
saying more choice for voters and more strategy for candidates.
>> >>AMITA: I think the hope behind these new rules was that it would attract more moderate
candidates. Has that come to fruition?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: We've seen more moderate candidates running.
We've seen Republicans running nawl not signing Grover Norquist's increase tax pledge, seen
democrats running more from the center. Whether they'll win, we'll have to look at
that. And who actually gets elected in nrve and
whether that person is a better Ron Paul representative of the district.
We saw in the old left competitive district lines that were drawn by the legislature,
see where the new citizen redistricting lines balance out and whether the top two balancesÊ
dlirchs. >> >>AMITA: By attracting moderates you are
more likely to reach compromise over issues that normally cause grid lockÊ are you hopeful?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: It couldn't get much worse. We haven't seen a mid m for the last decade
in Sacramento and the party vz moved further and further apart, and there's less and less
civility. So if you even get a few centerISTs in California
today that will be an improvement. A lot of political scien scientists are doing
a lot of polling to see what the results will be.
>> >>AMITA: This is the first election where voters are voting in a new district that were
not drawn by law makers. How might that change the balance of power?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: What it's going to do is lead to more competitive elections in November.
The last round of redistricting had this deep blue and deep red districts.
Now we're seeinga lot more purple districts. Not every district is purple.
Their there had are a handful in each house across the state.
That will bee mean more fire works in November. The question at the endo the day, the Victors
who move from this, are they going to be deep Republicans, deep rem p democrats, or centerisTs.
>> >>AMITA: Are we going to see the prolonged budget bat m that we normally see in June
and July and sometimes into the late summer might come to an end.
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think that's come to an end with the passage of proposition 25.
We had an on time budget last year, and looks like it will be on time this year.
The question is what will that represent? What the Californian in the mid ol the spectrum
thinks. That's what we've been missing in disairks
what both of these reforms are designed to do.
We'll have to wait until June of 2013 to see what we get from this process.
>> >>AMITA: Just one more year. We're stilt still waiting for new numbers
from the registrar of voters. Let's go back to Dwane for more of the initial
results. >> >>DWANE: Rent control was on the ballot
in Oceanside. Proposition E would phase it out for mobile
home parks. Rent control was imposed back in 1984.
And in theÊ let's take a look at those numbers, the presidential Republican Mitt Romney, the
chosen candidate dprt nomination you see in California, the vote 81% for Romney.
Ron Paul running a distant second at just barely 9%, and it goes down the line, Rick
san tore m at just less than 5. Of course president Obama running unopposed
receiving 100% California generally, a democratic voting state.
And we also have some results in the sean t long time California senator Diane Feinstein
running for reelection with a huge field of challengers.
Let's take a look at some of those numbers; Feinstein leading the pack with 50% of the
early vote, Elizabeth INCUM, the Republican, and Dan Hughes the Republican, following in
third. We've got all of tonight's results on our
website, KPBS.org, and we will bring you another update on the vote count soon as we receive
the latest numbers from the registrar of voters. We are expecting that in just a few minutes.
Election officials expect ad light turn out today.
KPBS reporter Joe Replogle visited several polling places earlier.
>> >>: On the campus of San Diego State university was pretty quiet this morning.
Despite covering five preCINCTS. Coworks chatted and laughed tending to the
few voters who strolled in to s cast their ballots.
Voter turn out seems to be on target with projection.
About 40% is projected to vote. >> >>: It's been steady.
>> >>: Seiler says most of the traffic at her office has been drive thru.
Robert wi et is one of them. I asked him whether the state's new open primary
system where voters can choose between candidates from multiple parties was confusing.
>> >>: Well, like my mom says, you vote democrat, so you follow the line, so pretty simple.
>> >>DWANE: KPBS reporter Jill Replogle. There are some differences for voters this
year. Of course, new district lines from any elected
offices including congress and the state legislature. The other change is a top two voting system
where the top two vote getters will advance to the general election in November regardless
of their political party. Let's head back over to Amita and thad.
>> >>AMITA: Thad, let's talk about these television ads.
Television ads typically can redefine a candidate within 30 seconds or less.
Last week we saw a real hit by the police union put out against Carl DeMaio, basically
accusing him of wanting to deny police widows benefits.
This past weekend, there were a lot of ads against Fletcher.
The one against DeMaio doesn't seem to hurt him.
Why do you think that is? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think peopleÊ the gloves
have been on so far in this primary because with four candidates and top tier candidates
who thought they had a real shot go in, nobody wanted to get go too dirty or negative smght
when you go negative on somebody else, that hurts them and you.
Once we get to two candidates, the gloves are going to come off, we're going to see
a lot more mud. Anything I say that's bad about you, it hertz
you more than me. There's nowhere else for voters to go with
you. I think the policeÊ the police on Carl DeMaio
was maybe a little too little too late. He looked like he was going to get through
in this first round anyway. I think we'll see the affect when we see them
over and over again this fall. >> >>AMITA: Who did you see who ran an ad
that you thought wow, that really hit home, that was really effective.
Were there any mayoral candidates who ran ads like that?
>> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think we've seen a clear policy message from Carl DeMaio.
He's taking on unions and standing out a bit from downtown developers.
He has this that may give him scruses over appeals to independent, and tap some democratic
voters. Nathan Fletcher's ads have told a lot of his
personal story and leadership characteristics. He has a wonderful political resume.
I think ps both of them have run good ads for who they are.
>> >>AMITA: Who's run a good km campaign? I have been inundated by mailers from Carl
DeMaio, and e mails from Dumanis, they really seem to have been running a very strong political
machine avery strong campaign mission. Even today I got an e mail from Carl DeMaio
basically telling folks where to vote, how k they can vote, all of that who ran a smart
campaign in this race according to you? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think these are all good
candidates, very competent consultants. I think the one outside the box move in this
campaign, we'll see by the end of the night whether it was successful or not, was Nathan
Fletcher's jump away from whether parties. That is the one change that could take someone
who looked like he had a very promising career that was running into a dead end when he lost
the Republican party nomination. If he survives tonight's race, hee had the
odds are in favor knowing forward in November. If he wins that, he is the young star of the
Republican party, a party that is looking for some state would candidates to run.
We could, in tern ten years, if we have a governor Fletcher saying that's a good move,
or his political obituary could be written tonight.
>> >>AMITA: This is a guy who had the most volunteers, trotted out the most policy initiatives
who had a great personal narrative, who raised the most outside money, Carl DeMaio contributed
a lot to his own campaign. If Nathan Fletcher isn't able to make it into
the run off, what happens? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think you've got to say
where he started. He started in single digits with a great reputation
in Sacramento and strong results in his district, but he wasn't a house hold name in San Diego
politics. A lot of his district is not in the cityÊ
parts of it aren't in the city of San Diego. Voters didn't know him, he had a short time
when not that many voters are paying attention to introduce himself to the public and that's
been hard. >> >>AMITA: Let's go back to Dwane for one
more review of tonight's top returns. >> >>DWANE: O o okay, u meelt uh, we're going
to take a look at more of the returns in the race for Mayor.
These are the first returns which came out alt about 8:00Êp.m. this evening, still waiting
for the second numbers. As you can see Carl DeMaio leading the pack
32%, Bob Filner following then Nathan Fletcher and Bonnie Dumanis.
On to proposition B, the retirement benefits measure, yes, at this point leading 69% to
a no vote of 30% and then proposition A, the other San Diego city measure, dealing with
project labor agreements also leading with a yes vote of 59% to 40%.
Let's take a look at some of the state propositions. This one, proposition 28, the term measure
lim lts lets leading with a yes vote of 64%, no vote 35%.
And proposition 29, the tax on cigarettes leading by about two percentage points.
It's sphil early, yes 51%, no 48%. Let's go back over to Amita and thad.
>> >>AMITA: You know, thad y don't want to leave this show without asking you about the
UT San Diego's three front page endorsements of Carl DeMaio, did they help him, hurt him?
What affect do you think they had on him? >> >>THAD KOUSSER: I think they were preaching
to the choir. We've seen the UT become one of these old
style newspapers that in the 19th century sort of becomes the political propaganda piece
for one side. With policy proposals about how to run San
Diego, and these endorsements, I think they don't quite have the same reputation as a
neutral ash tr who when they finally make an endorsement are finallyÊ they become a
cheering section for one side of the issues in San Diego today.
>> >>AMITA: Any final thoughts on this campaign. >> >>THAD KOUSSER: This is the most exciting
mayoral race we've had in a city where we've had a lot of exieght mayoral races.
You know, we're going to go to bed tonight really not knowing whether we're going to
have a democrat or a Republican or an independent leading the way in November.
So we're going to have toÊ with the new system, people voting by mail, wrary going to have
to accept a little bit of uncertainty. >> >>AMITA: If prop B passes and it looks
like it's going to, does that put the city's finances in the bas back seat and move the
other issues to the front burner which would be keeping the chargers here, fixing the pot
holes very quickly glmpleghts as long as we're in a recession, we're going to be dealing
with a budget crisis in San Diego. Pension fix is long term, but next year we'll
talk about. >> >>AMITA: Our election coverage continues
tonight on 89.5 KPBS FM. Tom fudge and peggy pico are standing by at
golden hall to bring you more returns as they come in this evening.
>> >>DWANE: You can find updated results on our website as well, KPBS.org/election.
Then join us for the day after analysis of the results on morning edition and mid day
edition on the radio and tomorrow night on evening edition here on KPBS television.
I'm Dwane for Amita Sharma and thad Kousser, and the KPBS news team.
Thanks for joining us. Have a great night.
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