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do you renounce anything from the action of the Golden Dawn?
i am talking about cases that have reached the law court
of course there have been cases in the law court
but i never abandon my "soldiers"
i defend them even in their mistakes
because indeed people came by my side
that they may have participated in fights
and be accused for that
how old where you in 1974?
nearly 17
did you have any relation at that time with the regime?
of course not what kind of relation may i have had
i was a high school student
good student?
i was accepted in the mathematical university of athens
and you can find many of my schoolmates
one of them is a good friend of mine
he is professor in a university of Denmark
who is member of KKE(communist party)
and he told me if he wasnt a member for 30years he'd vote me
and we are still friends
have you been in korydallos(prison)
of course i have been in the "college" of korydallos
and the prisons of aigina
and the prisons of aulona
explosives or what?
at first i was arrested for the happenings out of the english embassy
after that i was a paratroop officer
i was blamed that i participated in a
National Revolutionary subversive Organization
which aimed an overthrow of democracy
how democratic was the country at that time
is now ascertained by greek citizens
we are talking about when?
about 1978
wasnt karamanlis a democratic leader?
no karamanlis wasnt democratic
i dont believe he was democratic
tell me about koridallos(prison)
did you meet at that time with the aprilians?
i had talked with Georgios Papadopoulos(dictator of military junta)
and the general Ioannidis and many of them
and Stylianos Pattakos who is still alive and 100yr old
what about those things being said by your adversaries?
namely?they say too many things
fascist
i am not a fascist for the simple reason i am greek
fascism was a completely Italian phenomenon
nazist?
nazism was Another era phenomenon in Germany
which doesnt have to do with me personally and politically
so do you have any relationship with nazists in germany that they say you have?
of course we dont
nor with Italian fascists?
we had some contacts purely political
with?
with "fortsan gova" in Italia
of course we also had with "en me nte"
but those contacts stopped when those people started talking about lazy greeks
and our relations stopped
you have wrote an hymn about Hitler right?
there was wrote an article in november of 1987
not by me but that doesnt mean anything
because symptomatically i was getting married that month
and that article had my signature under the main article cause thats how it used to be
look in 1987 25years ago if you know the Greek legislation
even if i murdered someone it would be cancelled now
ok but i want to know do you regret
that your name was under an article which says...
no i did not regret he was a great leader of his country
but he was an enemy of our country
we fought him and i applaud those who fought him
look i come from a place where we are very proud
from Mani?
yes Mani
i have no revel declarations i am proud
tell me about 2-3 of your favorite heroes
generally i always side the losers and history's "desperados"
i dare to say even if its not conherent with my ideology
i am appealed by scandalized poets of the 19th century
generally i believe life is a poem
and that we should bring it extremely to the edge
how extreme?
as much as possible
first in the prisons?did you hear that?
yes i did
just because i have been in prison and i have made
some great friendships with murderers who were really good people
i want to tell you that really those bad and evil people are not in jail
yes i believe that
lets talk about recent issues
my pleasure thats what i'd like most
i ask you to stand up when our captain enters ok?
as a mark of respect
sorry guys but we came here to record your captain's statement
anyone who doesnt want to stand up can go out
ALL UPRIGHT
ALL STAND UP
UP,UP,UP,UP
all upright as a mark of respect
lets get out guys
whoever doesnt like it may just go out
what happened Nantia whats the problem?
they asked from us to stand up when you enter
we find it offensive
if papandreou entered wouldnt you stand up?
enough nobody's talking now
what does this stand up mean against the journalists?
first of all i defend my friend's mistakes in all cases
whoever is by my side i defend him even in their mistakes
It is not in my culture to give up my partners
look as usual whenever the captain enters the office
we say the "stand up"
in that room there were 10-20 journalists
and 40 golden dawn members
"stand up" was for our members
and thats when happened the misunderstanding
it was an unfortunate moment if i may say
but yes i defend it i dont take back our word
i wasnt there but i saw you justified the expulsion of the journalists
no you heard it wrong
i dont understand we didnt mean to offend the journalists
so in the next interview will the journalist have to stand up or not?
no they can sit down no problem
dont tell me that the glass of beer
that your candidate member threw at Efthimiou wasnt...
as much as i know it was water
in the film there is a glass
i havent seen it i dont contradict you the info i have say that it was water
Mr Efthimiou was using bombs did he get that scared from this little water?
he declared himself in an interview that he is trained at weapons and explosives
there is a difference between using violence as an answer
in an antidemocratic regime and using violence in a democratic one
what do you say are you serious?
in war you will make use of violence
in junta (military dictatorship) you will make use of violence
thats what you think?
in a game of democracy you want make use of violence
dont you respect that?
no i dont
let me tell you something.from the use of bombs during junta
didnt people get killed?
in the statue of trueman a woman got killed
was that a good use of violence?
and a simple cop
what happened there dudes?good one?
Lenin's violence was good after he took control by force with the 2%?
my opinion?
the prevailing view say it was good
personally i am against any kind of violence
there is an exception of violence when someone use it to protect himself
and there is an exception when someone use it to fight dictatorship
everything is a matter of interpretation.what you judge as junta
was considered by others as legal status
someone who is indeed against violence
wears an orange cloak and puts ringing bells on his feet
so he doesnt kill the ants
and he is a pacifist so he doesnt burden his soul
and let me tell you something that perhaps you will cut it
maybe you will cut it
i am sure you will cut it
did you know that a day before the elections
there was beaten really badly a candidate member of Golden Dawn
83yr old professor?
and i didnt talk about it
just to avoid any fuss
there is a flag behind you torned and powdered
it was caused by the bomb in our office
our office was utterly destroyed
"epanastatikoi pyrines" took the responsibility
violence is a reality of life
we are not naive to believe that through violence we will succeed in our political purposes
if we were officers and had under our control tank divisions
we couldnt have maybe thought of it
all this we have seen from Golden Dawn members using violence
is something you have not seen as well?
you should also know that we have suffered from attacks and we just answered
all these muscles we see around you
mean that you somehow have to defend against the attackers?
no they just like it.there are many people who have served in special forces
and take care of their bodies
thats not a bad thing.i'm saying that having those people around you is a way to defend?
look under no circumstances will i ever accept my humiliation for political reasons
if they throw a glass of water at me i will throw a bottle on their heads
i admit it
do you want me to say the truth or lies?
that i will just stand like a civilised person?
i admit it if someone tries to humiliate me i will dash to him
the chase of the immigrants?
what chase of the immigrants?
what i see is the chase of the greeks by the immigrants
if you check 2-3 roads away you will see them all
we are even building them hotels
tell me what about the lock up of the greek citizens?
what about those old ladies getting killed for 50-60euro?
greeks never killed for 50 and 100euro
there are greeks that have killed
these are exceptions and not a social reality
thats their culture in those countries
life costs nothing
have you watched the "billionaire" movie?
have you seen the grief that exists?
blinding little children this is a reality
blinding and cutting their arms in order to make them beg for money
what you think is gonna solve the problem is get immigrants out?
i believe it is a serious issue of the greek society
what does the "foreigners out of here" mean?
all illegal immigrants out?
yes all illegal imigrants should get out of greece
so legal immigrants stay here
there are very few legal immigrants
Albania for example came here 15yrs ago etc
or those who entered from countries at war
those people who entered from afganistan
just to clarify a few things
are USA's puppets
why doesnt USA a rich,huge country accept them?
why should they bring them to greece?
explain what the media says about chase of the immigrants from Golden Dawn
is it a lie?
media lies?for god's sake
havent you seen videos about?
why dont we stay in the discussion about media?
then you will tell me about the chase
of course i dont avoid any question
media is not one thing but many.
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of course not
there are left-right wing political...
great you make a wonderful pass
as far as Golden Dawn all media is the same
why did "rizospastis" (newspaper),Vima(newspaper) and Mega channel made a conspiracy
about arranging and saying the exact same things?
they have common interests its not about conspiracy
like they say we are their enemy
we are their common adversary
now what you say about hunt of the immigrants
it never happened from Golden Dawn
we have protected greek citizens from criminality
of illegal immigrants in some regions of Athens
and thats what happened indeed
by using violence?
when they attack you have to defend by using violence
if they try to rob you what are you gonna do?
wont you defend yourself?
when they pee inside church's sanctum will you let them do it?
what will you do?
you'll drive them away thats what you are gonna do
by using violence
yes how are you gonna get rid of them?
will you say please Mr Pakistani dont pee inside church's sanctum
its not good
yes but isnt it a vicious circle?
we did not decide the vicious circle
someone else created it
so if you think what someone does is bad and you have to drive him away by using violence
and if he thinks what you do is bad and he has to defend by using violence
means we will have to be equipped with knives?
violence is everywhere and its not a Golden's Dawn creature
tell me did Golden Dawn force the police to spray with chemicals
all these people in Syntagma Square?
or the others using bombs?
it is heard you've got many votes from the cops of special forces
i am not aware of these results
we've had conflicts with them
what about that they say you cooperate with the police?
just a second lets talk about violence
violence is a reality
Golden Dawn is not responsible for this
when time comes for Golden Dawn to take over the country
i guarantee there will be no violence
do you cooperate or conflict with the police?
we have had conflicts with the police many times
just like in 23 of december 2011
when we rallied against IMF
which was not shown from any channel
those great democratic media that always say the truth
if there were gathered any blue and red (political parties)
you would run there immediately to present them
εμας που ημασταν εκει και πεζαμε ξυλο με τα ματ when were there fighting with the special forces
δεν μας δειξανε και φαγαμε χημικα we were not displayed and they threw us chemicals
nationalist persistence mostly the one of germans
against jewish and gypsies
do you justify nazi crimes against jewish?
i dont justify any war crime but war brings crimes
germans did crimes and so did americans
Dresden was burnt entirely along with women and little children
in Auschwitz?
in Auschwitz what?
i havent been in Auschwitz
you know what happened there dont you?
what happened?were were you in Auschwitz?
no but i've read about like everyone
i've read many books which dispute the number of 6million jewish
it doesnt matter
were there furnaces?
no there was no furnace that is a lie
i believe it is a lie
nor gas chambers?
nor gas chambers
there were many dead people in concentration camps from many nations and thats a war crime
just like concentration camps in USA for japanese people
you try to balance them out
of course i do cause history is always written from winners
you are very sensitive about nazist war crimes
but for the rest of the war crimes you have an absolute certainty
its like saluting nazism
2 are singing and 3 are dancing.you are out of control
isnt greek someone who is born here and gets the greek citizenship?
based on what do you say it?
lets say Stefanopoulos said that
Stefanopoulos hasnt studied well Isokrates
do you deny that someone who is born and goes school in greece is a greek one?
no thats not a proof for me
DNA testing?
not DNA testing
if someone is greek it's in his blood,ancestry and consciousness
what does that mean?
another generation back?
maybe 2 and 3
what i believe.do i have the right for it?
if that means i am a racist no problem
say it to the greeks of canada or australia
the law is different there
Canada and Australia are 2countries created by invaders and what i want is
we Greeks not to become like those natives of Australia and Canada
say it to the Greeks of Germany then
yes of course
after years of living in Germany they become German citizens
they become indeed German citizens but i dont believe in that
thats my point of view
homosexuals?
what about homosexuals?
is there something in your party about them?
homosexuals are a part of society
that i dont consider it as normal
question was a trap.i want to see any difference from german nazism
i will tell you in another way.i wouldnt be proud if i was gay
what else do you want me to say
you dont answer to me.cant someone be a Golden Dawn member if he is homosexual?
being openly homosexual and member of Golden Dawn no
so you care not to be openly homosexuals.only if they hide it?
if we dont know it how will we understand them?with testing?
of course
but you even said to make blood testing to check if we are Greeks
i didnt talk about such a testing
test their parent's parents...
we want them to be Greeks.Greeks who have a grandfather who fought in 1940
who joined the war in Sarantaporo
and who had his grandfather's brother died in war time just like mine
you served in the Greek Army right?
in borderland
my wishes and congratulations
in Didimoteiho
Didimoteiho.great
now in parliament will you swear to the Evangel?
didnt i in the town council?
Greek state was founded in the name of Agia Triada
they say many things about you and you know it
of course i do
gentile
yeah sure nor ancient greeks were gentile this is all false
i have a deep respect for the ancient greek civilization
Greek state is not and should not be atheistic
and i had told to Mr Kaminis in the town council
that as far as i know there is no demotic country
unless there is any Roviesperre in here
what i remember about you in the town council is that you saluted the same way as nazists
that was in a town council time break
i was provoked by Mr Konstantinou
who started screaming he is a fascist he is a fascist
and i answered him that way
that salutation is not a nazist one
i've seen you saluting like that
not that way
we saluted like that in 4th of August
some people do it and its not Golden Dawn formal salutation
what about "Blood,Honour Golden Dawn" (Golden Dawn slogan)
it means country,honour,Golden Dawn
no the slogan is Blood,Honour Golden Dawn
Blood doesnt mean that we'll get out in the streets like zombies sucking blood
with the word blood we mean our race
i'm saying because there is a similar slogan of Hitlerism youth
i dont know about that
i can even sing to you Mani's funeral song about blood
and in there we say that we have the same blood
what will you do in the parliament?do you respect the rules?
of course i do respect them but if they start talking again
all these stupidities about Hitler that when i was born there was no Hitler
i can talk about people that when they were alive
some were paid by Funds of the Soviet Union
and some others from the other "democratic" leader
i have to say a lot of things
political and ideological terrorism of the left wing parties is breaking
and there will be heard another word
even if you say a truth about left wing parties
doesnt mean that what they say about you is a lie
what do you mean?
you say if they tell me about hitler...
i was never paid by Hitler
you have called him great leader of 20th century
i never got any money compared to them
"we raise our right hand and shout Heil Hitler"
that doesnt have an effect
it is in a Golden Dawn's text of 1987
its just not valid
do you believe it?
i believe he was a great personality of 20th century
dont you say Heil Hitler?
of course we dont for the simple reason that you say Heil for someone who is alive
since he is dead what will you say?Heil?
is it true that many of your members have issues with justice?
there is a perjury that someone got attacked and our member was nearby
and they stole his identity card
thats what they mean robbery
do you renounce anything from the action of the Golden Dawn?
about beatings...
there have been cases in the law court
but i never abandon my "soldiers"
i defend them even in their mistakes
because indeed people came by my side
that they may have participated in fights and be accused for that
εσεις ειστε πλουσιος?are you rich?
οχι δεν ειμαι πλουσιος no i'm not rich
i am not an owner of any house which is a porn hotel like they said
yes thats what i wanted to ask you
there is a house which was my wife's father
who died 15yrs ago
and who had rent it to some Greeks of north Epirus
and my wife has the 15%
i have nothing of it
is it indeed what they say about?
i honestly dont know what it is
what i can say is that we have nothing to do with company nor management
and who is talking about all this?
those newspapers that if you check their last pages they have hotline numbers
if needs to be we "dirty" our hands?
if we have to we are not democratic?
does it justify violence?
we mean that we dont make democratic protestations
political correct for the system
when we say we are not democratics we mean we are not with this kind of democracy
which exists in our country the last 38years
and which works in the worst way possible
do we have democracy?
no we dont have democracy
Constitutional Court
isnt it a clue of democracy considering you will be in the parliament?
its a clue of democracy's weakness
so we should have declared you illegal?
thats what they pretty much do
they always had us in the border cause they didnt believe
that through their disgrace one part of the citizenship would wake up
and vote for us and thank god they are 440.000 Greeks
they are 30-40 divisions
you count your power in military terms
yes i love the army
i dont know if thats bad
its like you're telling us that when you want that army will move where you'll say
no its not an army but if you want it like that then no problem
is it true that you make business of protection in Athens?
we have taken care of to have the cannons ready.next one will be a block
after that there is another "business" to the south suburbs
you are joking
those things being heard are just funny
the police is most of the time against us rather than hunting down those criminals immigrants
didnt you have made a dynamic operation in Agios Panteleimonas?
we stood by all those citizens who were then added in Golden Dawn
and i inform you that Golden Dawn is no longer that ultra right wing organisation
we got in kamatero 12% and in Ekali (rich people live here) 3%
all this that we are fascists and dogs of the rich is over
we represent people
who will be your members in the paliament
those who were elected
cause they said you'd kick them out to replace them with others
thats invalid
those who were elected by Greeks?
yes its simple
no i'm just wondering if you wanted to give a better image in the parliament and use some others
as far as our good image media will take care of showing the worst one as much as good image we have
as far as our good image media will take care of showing the worst one as much as good image we have