Freedom From Addiction - Dr. Neil T. Anderson - Host, Dr. Freda Crews


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>THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR ANOTHER ADDITION OF TIME FOR
HOPE AN INTERNATIONAL FAITH-BASED MENTAL HEALTH
PROGRAM. I'M DR. FREDA CREWS YOUR HOST AND I AM ALWAYS
DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU JOIN US AS WE ATTEMPT TO COVER
SUBJECTS THAT ARE OF HELP AND INTEREST TO ALL OF OUR
VIEWERS. YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED SOME OF
THE PROBLEMS THAT OUR GUESTS WRITE BUT CHANCES ARE IF YOU
HAVEN'T YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS AND WE HOPE AS YOU BECOME
INFORMED ABOUT A CERTAIN PROBLEM YOU CAN HELP A FRIEND,
FAMILY MEMBER OR NEIGHBOR STRUGGLING TO MAKE SENSE OF
THEIR EXPERIENCES. JOINING ME TODAY IS AUTHOR, LECTURER AND
INTERNATIONAL SPEAKER CHANDRA PEELE WHO SHARES HER REAL-LIFE
CHURCH AND MINISTRY EXPERIENCE IN HER BOOK TITLED CHURCH
LADY, FREE TO BE A WOMAN OF GOD. MEN DON'T GO AWAY BECAUSE
YOU WILL FIND A LOT OF TRUTH RELATED TO YOUR WIVES AND
THEIR MINISTRIES AS MY GUEST AND I INTERACT ON THIS
SUBJECT.
>AND CHANDRA IT'S GREAT HAVING YOU COME ALL THE WAY FROM
HOUSTON TEXAS TO BE ON TIME FOR HOPE.
>THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
>I SHOULD SAY NOT BE ON BUT SHARE WITH US ON TIME FOR HOPE
ABOUT YOUR BOOK CHURCH LADY.
>I'M EXCITED.
>YOU'VE TAUGHT ME SOME THINGS. I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS
CHURCH LADY BIT. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SLIPPED THROUGH
THE CRACKS FOR ME?
>WELL IT'S KIND OF FUNNY BECAUSE NEITHER DID MY MOM,
WHICH THAT'S FUNNY; YOU GUYS MIGHT BE AROUND THE SAME AGE.
BUT YOU KNOW I THINK THERE'S A GROUP OF US THAT GREW UP AND
THERE WAS A NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE THAT DEVELOPED. WE
EVEN LAUGHED AT IT AND IT WAS ON A SHOW CALLED SATURDAY
NIGHT LIVE AND A MAN BY THE NAME OF DANA CARVEY DID A
SATIRE BASED ON WHAT HE SAW AS CHURCH LADIES. AND I THINK THE
REASON WE LAUGHED IS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE SAW OURSELVES AND
PEOPLE WE KNEW IN THAT SATIRE. BUT WHAT A SHAME YOU KNOW THAT
WE ARE THE CHURCH AND INSTEAD OF PEOPLE SAYING OH GOODNESS
HERE COME THOSE CHURCH LADIES, LET'S RUN THE OTHER WAY, IT'S
GOD'S PRAYER AND I MEAN MY PRAYER THAT WE WOULD BEGIN TO
HAVE PEOPLE SAY HERE COME THOSE CHURCH LADIES, THEY ARE
GOING TO LOVE US UNCONDITIONALLY.
>SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY THE STEREOTYPE WASN'T ALL GOOD,
RIGHT?
>NO IT WAS VERY NEGATIVE AND THE PROBLEM THAT WE SEE IS
THAT WHEN GOD GAVE ME A VISION DR. FREDA TO WRITE THIS BOOK
AND HE SAID I WANT YOU TO GO AND I WANT YOU TO EXPOSE MY
TRUTH, MY WORD AND MY LOVE TO CHURCH LADIES ALL OVER THE
WORLD. SO FOR ME THAT PUT ME ON A SEARCH FINDING CHURCH
LADIES. WELL HOW ALL THIS STARTED IS WHEN I BEGAN TO SAY
TO THIS PERSON OR THAT, YOU'RE A CHURCH LADY, ARE YOU A
CHURCH LADY AND THEY WOULD LOOK AT ME AND SAY WHAT DO YOU
MEAN, NO I'M NOT A CHURCH LADY. AND I STARTED REALIZING
THAT IT WAS A VERY NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE SO I BEGAN TO ASK
PEOPLE SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU HEAR THE WORD CHURCH
LADY? AND THEY WOULD SAY THREE THINGS FOR SURE, NUMBER ONE,
I'M NOT OLD ENOUGH TO BE A CHURCH LADY. SHE'S THAT OLDER
LADY IN MY CHURCH THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS YOU KNOW. OR
NUMBER TWO I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE A CHURCH LADY ISN'T THAT
SAD. AND NUMBER THREE PLEASE DON'T CALL ME THE CHURCH LADY
BECAUSE SHE IS LEGALISTIC AND JUDGMENTAL AND I DON'T WANT
ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT. SO I KNEW THEN THAT WE HAD SOME
WORK TO DO.
>WELL I WAS A PASTOR'S WIFE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, A GREAT
NUMBER OF YEARS SO SOMEHOW OR OTHER I PROBABLY DIDN'T FIT
INTO THE GROUP OF THE CHURCH LADIES. BUT GROWING UP I CAN
REMEMBER SOME CHURCH LADIES THAT WERE TREMENDOUSLY
INFLUENTIAL IN MY LIFE LIKE MY SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER, I SHALL
NEVER FORGET THE RESPONSIBILITY SHE TOOK FOR
THE TEENAGERS AND HOW GOOD SHE WAS FOR US. AND THEN THE OTHER
LADIES THAT HELP RUN THE CHURCH, EVEN THEN MORE WOMEN
ATTENDED CHURCH THAN MEN AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IS STILL TRUE.
SO I DIDN'T, EVEN GOING BACK AND YOU'RE TELLING ME WHAT
YOU'RE TELLING ME I DON'T HAVE A NEGATIVE PICTURE OF CHURCH
LADIES.
>AND THAT'S WONDERFUL AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
AND SO FOR THOSE OF US OR FOR SOME CHURCHED PEOPLE WHO DON'T
WANT TO BE CALLED A CHURCH LADY FOR ONE OF THE STEREOTYPE
REASONS WE'RE IN FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNCHURCHED WHO THINK OF US
CHURCH LADIES AS HYPOCRITES AND HOLIER THAN THOU PEOPLE
THAT THINK THEY'RE PERFECT. WELL WHAT I BELIEVE THE LORD
HAS ASKED ME TO DO IS TO SHATTER THAT NEGATIVE
STEREOTYPE SO THAT EVERYONE WILL SEE THE CHURCH LADY THAT
YOU AND MY MOM SEE. IT'S AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE
CALLED A CHURCH LADY. WHO IS THE CHURCH? YOU KNOW THE BIBLE
TELLS US THAT WE ARE THE CHURCH. IF WE BELONG TO JESUS
CHRIST, IF HE IS OUR LORD AND OUR SAVIOR THEN WE ARE THE
CHURCH AND SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S TIME FOR US TO CLEAN
UP THAT TARNISHED REPUTATION AND LET'S REGROUP, COME
TOGETHER AND BE THE LOVE OF CHRIST TO PEOPLE, TO BE REAL.
I THINK DR. FREDA THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT
PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE HAVE THIS NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE
BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE CHURCH LADIES,
CHURCH PEOPLE THAT WE'VE GOT IT ALL TOGETHER. BUT YOU AND I
BOTH KNOW WE DON'T HAVE IT ALL TOGETHER, DO WE? NO.
>NO AND AS I THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE WRITTEN IN YOUR BOOK
AND THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY IT
COULD APPLY TO THE WHOLE CHURCH, MEN AND WOMEN ALIKE. I
HAVE BECOME VERY CONSCIOUS WITHIN THE LAST, I WOULD SAY
WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT EVEN IN MINISTRY
MYSELF AND LOOKING AT THE CHURCH AT LARGE THAT WE'RE FAR
MORE INTERESTED IN WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THE CHURCH
THAN WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT OUTSIDE THE CHURCH
AND INTERMINGLING AND INTERACTING. AS I THINK ABOUT
THE LIFE OF CHRIST, WHERE WAS HE? HE WAS OUT WHERE THE
CROWDS WERE. HE WAS OUT WHERE IT WAS GOING ON, WEDDINGS OR
WHATEVER EVER ELSE AND I THINK AS A CHURCH THAT'S EXACTLY
WHERE WE OUGHT TO BE. AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT ABOUT THE
CHURCH LADIES.
>YES I'M SAYING LADIES, MY SISTERS IN CHRIST, LET'S COME
TOGETHER AND SHINE, BE A LIGHT. WE'RE DIFFERENT YOU
KNOW. ONE OF THE THINGS I TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK IS THAT WE
NEED TO GET RID OF SOME OF THESE TRADITIONS THAT HAVE
KEPT US STUCK IN A RUT. NOW THERE ARE SOME VERY GOOD
TRADITIONS BUT SOME TRADITIONS SAY DENOMINATION, SOME OF
THOSE TRADITIONS THAT ARE OUR DENOMINATION HAVE TRULY KEPT
US I BELIEVE FROM CROSSING OVER LINES AND LOVING EACH
OTHER WITH A GENUINE LOVE. AND PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT BELIEVERS
THEY SEE THAT OF US. THEY SEE US SAYING OUR WAY IS THE WAY.
BUT JESUS SAID NO, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.
NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME. SO HE HAS
CALLED US TOGETHER TO BE THE CHURCH AND WE NEED TO COME
TOGETHER EVERYWHERE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND BE A LIGHT THAT
SHINES BRIGHT FOR THE CAUSE OF JESUS CHRIST.
>WELL AS WE SEEK TO IMITATE CHRIST, AS THE SCRIPTURES
BRING OUT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT,
RIGHT? LET ME READ WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR BOOK ABOUT CHURCH
LADIES. THE CHURCH LADY LOVES THE LORD. SO THAT HAS TO HAVE
A BEGINNING SOMEWHERE. SO THAT IS WHEN WE COME TO A PERSONAL
SAVING KNOWLEDGE OF JESUS CHRIST, RIGHT? OKAY SHE
WORSHIPS AND PRAISES HIM, SHE SERVES HIM, SHE SEEKS HIS
WISDOM IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE. I'M THINKING OF MY VERSE, WHAT
I CALL MY LIFE VERSE. TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR HEART
AND LEAN NOT TO YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING. ACKNOWLEDGE HIM
IN ALL YOUR WAYS AND THEN HE WILL DIRECT YOUR PATH, RIGHT?
>THAT'S RIGHT.
>AND THEN YOU MOVE ON, SHE PASSIONATELY LIVES HER LIFE TO
BRING GLORY TO WHOM? TO HERSELF? THIS IS WHERE YOU
WERE ORIGINALLY COMING FROM, TO HIM. HER LOVE FOR GOD IS
OBVIOUS. OH ISN'T THAT WONDERFUL TO THINK THAT WE
COULD HAVE A COUNTENANCE ABOUT US OR A WAY ABOUT US THAT IT
WOULD BE OBVIOUS TO PEOPLE THAT CHRIST IS THE VERY CENTER
OF OUR LIVES? IT'S A PRIVILEGE.
>AMEN.
>DOES SHE MAKE MISTAKES? UH OH, YES, BUT SHE TRUSTS GOD TO
TEACH HER, TO MOLD HER AND SHAPE HER AS SHE SO
DESPERATELY DESIRES TO REFLECT HIM. BOY YOU HAVE DONE AN
EXTRAORDINARY JOB OF PUTTING IT TOGETHER IN A FEW SENTENCES
OF WHAT WE AS CHILDREN OF GOD OUGHT TO BE ABOUT.
>THANK YOU. YES IT'S EXCITING TO ENCOURAGE OTHER CHURCH
LADIES BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU MAY NOT THINK YOU'RE A CHURCH
LADY BUT IF YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR BECAUSE
YOU ARE INDEED A CHURCH LADY.
>AND THEN OKAY, BUT THEN THERE'S SOME WORK WE HAVE TO
DO TO GET THERE AND YOU'VE BROUGHT THAT OUT. WE HAVE TO
KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT OURSELVES OTHERWISE WE CAN BE VERY
SELF-RIGHTEOUS, RIGHT? LIKE YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE
STEREOTYPE, RIGHT?
>YES.
>IF WE ARE NOT WILLING TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT OURSELVE THEN
IT'S EASY TO BE CRITICAL AND FIND FAULT WITH OTHERS, RIGHT?
>THAT'S RIGHT. YOU KNOW I THINK IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE YOU
KNOW THERE'S A VERSE IN MATTHEW THAT JESUS SAYS LOVE
THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, YOUR SOUL, YOUR
MIND AND LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF AND I THINK WE HAVE A
LOT OF WORK TO DO WITH THAT LITTLE PART AS, AS YOURSELF.
>AS YOURSELF. WELL IT'S ALREADY BELIEVE IT OR NOT I'M
BEING TOLD IT'S TIME FOR A BREAK AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
MOST SCHOLARS ADMIT THAT JESUS' TREATMENT OF WOMEN
REPRESENTED A RADICAL BREAK WITH THE JEWISH CULTURAL
TRADITION OF HIS TIME. IN HIS ENCOUNTER WITH THE SAMARITAN
WOMAN (JOHN 4:7-10) THERE IS NOT THE SLIGHTEST HINT THAT
GOD'S SON VIEWED HER AS INCAPABLE OF GRASPING PROFOUND
SPIRITUAL TRUTHS SUCH AS HE HIMSELF BEING THE LIVING WATER
(4:10), THE CORRECT PLACE OF WORSHIP (4:21) OR THE
SPIRITUAL NATURE OF GOD (4:24). WE NOTE SEVERAL OTHER
THINGS ABOUT THIS ENCOUNTER BETWEEN JESUS AND A WOMAN,
THAT ACCORDING TO THE CULTURAL MORES OF HIS DAY, HE WAS NOT
EVEN SUPPOSED TO TALK WITH. SHE WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO
WHOM HE REVEALED HIMSELF AS THE MESSIAH. SHE IN TURN
ACCEPTED HIM AS THE EXPECTED MESSIAH AND BECAME THE FIRST
EVANGELIST TO WITNESS FOR HIM TO THE SAMARITANS. IN MATT.
15:21-28, JESUS AFFIRMED THE INTELLIGENCE AND SPIRITUAL
CAPABILITES OF MANY WOMEN DURING HIS EARTHLY MINISTRY BY
TAKING THE TIME TO INSTRUCT AND MINISTER TO THEM ONE ON
ONE (MATT. 15:21-28;MARK 5:25-34; LUKE 7:24-50). MARY
AND MARTHA FROM THE VILLAGE OF BETHANY (JOHN 11:1) ARE TWO OF
HIS MOST WELL KNOWN STUDENTS. THERE ARE CHURCHES AND CHURCH
LEADERS TODAY THAT BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO KEEP A LID ON
WOMEN AND BOX THEM IN WHEN IT COMES TO MINISTRY. INSTEAD, IT
APPEARS FROM THE SCRIPTURES THAT THE LORD JESUS MADE A
DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO RAISE THE SOCIAL AND SPIRITUAL
STANDING OF WOMEN DURING HIS EARTHLY MINISTRY. AS A RESULT
A STUDY OF THE EARLY CHURCH REVEALS THAT WOMEN MINISTERED
SIDE BY SIDE WITH MEN, FULFILLING THE PROPHECY OF THE
OLD TESTAMENT PROPHET JOEL, THAT DURING THE LAST DAYS,
WHICH BEGAN WITH THE ADVENT OF CHRIST, THAT BOTH MEN AND
WOMEN WOULD PROPHECY OR PREACH. OF COURSE, WE ARE
SEEING THIS TAKING PLACE TODAY WITH THE OUTSTANDING WRITING,
SPEAKING RADIO AND TV MINISTRIES OF WOMEN. AND THEN
THERE ARE THOSE CALLED AND GIFTED WOMEN MINISTERING
PRIVATELY IN THEIR CHURCHES AND COMMUNITIES THAT FILL A
MUCH NEEDED ROLE IN EXTENDING CHRIST'S KINGDOM ON EARTH.
CALL THEM "CHURCH LADIES" OR WHATEVER BUT IT COMES DOWN TO
WOMEN HEARING GOD'S CALL TO GO AND MAKE DISCIPLES BY
TEACHING, PREACHING, COUNSELING AND IN MANY OTHER
WAYS MINISTERING ACCORDING TO WHAT GOD CALLS, GIFT AND
DIRECTS THEM TO DO (I PET 4:10). GOD IS GOD AND HE
DECIDES WHOM HE CALLS AND GIFTS TO ACCOMPLISH HIS
PURPOSES WITH HIS KNGDOM. WOMEN, I CHALLENGE YOU TO SAY
TO THE LORD WHAT THE VIRGIN MARY, WHO WOULD BECOME JESUS'
MOTHER, SAID TO THE ANGEL GABRIEL "I AM THE LORD'S
SERVANT...MAY IT BE TO ME AS YOU HAVE SAID." (LUKE 1:38;
PARAPHRASED: HOLY BIBLE)
>WELL REALLY WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO FREDA AT
CHARISMA MAGAZINE WHERE I WORK WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF STORIES
ABOUT WOMEN IN MINISTRY. BUT EVERY TIME WE WRITE ABOUT A
WOMAN WHO IS A PASTOR OR A BIBLE TEACHER OR IN SOME
MINISTRY CAPACITY WE GET LOTS OF CRITICAL LETTERS PEOPLE WHO
WANT TO TELL ME WHY WE SHOULDN'T WRITE ABOUT THEM.
AND SO ONE DAY I DECIDED TO CALL A FRIEND OF MINE WHO'S A
FEMALE PASTOR IN VIRGINIA. SHE HAS A 2500 MEMBER CHURCH, VERY
SUCCESSFUL AND I ASKED HER IF SHE WOULD WRITE AN ARTICLE FOR
US THAT WOULD KIND OF LAY TO REST SOME OF THESE ARGUMENTS.
AND THIS WOMAN SAID TO ME NO I WILL NOT WRITE THAT. AND I
SAID WELL WHY NOT AND SHE SAID BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF DEFENDING
MYSELF. SHE SAID IF THEY WANT TO COME HERE AND SEE WHAT
WE'VE DONE AND SEE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME TO
CHRIST AND SEE THE SCHOOL THAT WE'VE STARTED AND DRUG REHAB
MINISTRY THAT WE'VE STARTED TO LOOK ME IN THE FACE AND TELL
ME THAT I SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT THEN THEY CAN COME AND
TELL ME THAT OTHERWISE JUST LEAVE ME ALONE. SO I WAS
PRETTY SURPRISED BY THAT REACTION AND I HUNG UP THE
PHONE AND THEN I FELT THE HOLY SPIRIT WHISPER TO ME THAT DAY
AND SAY WHY DON'T YOU DEFEND HER? AND THAT WAS THE
BEGINNING OF THE BIRTHING OF THIS FIRST BOOK AND THE SECOND
BOOK BECAUSE I REALIZED THAT I BELIEVE IN THIS HOUR GOD IS
CALLING WOMEN TO THE FOREFRONT AND THAT WE NEED MEN IN THE
CHURCH TO COME ALONGSIDE THEM AND CHAMPION THEIR CAUSE AND
DEFEND THEIR RIGHT TO BE PREACHERS OF THE GOSPEL AND TO
FULFILL ALL THAT GOD HAS CALLED THEM TO DO. SO I
VOLUNTEERED THAT DAY AND I SAID LORD I WILL DO THAT OF
COURSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS GETTING MYSELF INTO.
>WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE HAVING YOU JOIN US ON TIME FOR HOPE
AND I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT HERE TO EXPRESS MY
APPRECIATION FOR THE LOCAL PEOPLE THAT STOP ME AS I'M
ABOUT TOWN AND LET ME KNOW THAT THEY WATCH TIME FOR HOPE
AND HOW MUCH THEY APPRECIATE IT. SO I'M TAKING THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU IT'S GREAT ENCOURAGEMENT TO
ME. TODAY WITH US IS CHANDRA PEELE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
HER BOOK CHURCH LADY, SUBTITLED FREE TO BE A WOMAN
OF GOD. AND I REALLY LIKE THE WORD FREE, FREED UP. YOU'RE
REALLY SAYING AT ONE TIME THESE CHURCH LADIES WERE BOXED
IN.
>THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK TRYING TO FIT IN THAT MOLD THAT THEY
THOUGHT WAS SET UP BY THE CHURCH, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M
SAYING, AND THAT'S SO NOT THE LORD, IS IT? HE MADE US UNIQUE.
>IT CAN BE PURE LEGALISM CAN'T IT?
>YES THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT DR. FREDA AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
BUSTING OUT. WE'RE BUSTING DOWN THE BOXES, BUSTING DOWN
THE WALLS BECAUSE WHERE THERE'S LEGALISM THERE CANNOT
BE LOVE AND GOD CALLS US TO LOVE WITH A GENUINE LOVE.
>BUT WE HAVE TO ADMIT CHANDRA THAT WOMEN HAVE COME A LONG
WAY. WHEN YOU THINK BACK EVEN DURING THE TIME OF OUR LORD
AND HE BEGAN TO FREE THEM UP BECAUSE THEY WERE REALLY BOXED
IN. AND EVEN IN THE EARLY STAGES OF OUR MINISTRY I WAS
BOXED IN AS IT WERE. I BROKE THE STEREOTYPE AND BEGAN TO
TEACH AND BEGAN TO DO SOME THINGS AND IT WAS UNUSUAL. I
WAS CONSIDERED A PIONEER ACTUALLY.
>THANK YOU, THANK YOU DR. FREDA. (LAUGHTER)
>AND IT SCARED MY HUSBAND. (LAUGHTER). HE DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO WITH ME BUT I KNEW THE LORD HAD
CALLED ME AND HE FINALLY ACCEPTED THAT. BUT WE WENT OUT
WITH THE TRUTH ABOUT OURSELVES AND WE REALLY HAVE TO BE
HONEST WITH OURSELVES, DON'T WE, AND KNOW THAT WE HAVE
WEAKNESSES, THAT WE'VE SINNED, THAT WE DO SIN, THAT WE CAN'T
BE PERFECT. ISN'T THAT BOTTOM LINE THE WAY YOU SAY IT?
>BOTTOM LINE, YES, WE CAN'T BE PERFECT AND THAT VERSE ABOUT
THAT WE NEED TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS OURSELVES YOU
KNOW WHEN I STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS I HAD SOME
CHRISTIAN LADIES TURN THEIR NOSE UP AT ME AND SAY WHAT DO
YOU MEAN? WHY ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT AS LOVING YOURSELF,
THAT'S NARCISSISTIC. OH NO NO NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M
TALKING ABOUT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE, YOU AND I, AND ALL THE
PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING, MEN AND WOMEN; WE CANNOT LOVE
OTHERS WITH A GENUINE LOVE UNTIL WE HAVE THAT
RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST. AND WE KNOW HOW HE
SEES US, HOW HE LOVES US AND ONLY OUT OF THAT LOVE CAN WE
BEGIN TO LOVE OTHER PEOPLE.
>IT ISN'T OUR TALK IS OUR WALK, ISN'T IT?
>OH, AMEN. PEOPLE ARE WATCHING.
>THEY ARE WATCHING AND OBSERVING. AND THEN WE MUST
KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT OTHERS THAT THEY TOO HAVE THEIR
WEAKNESSES, THEIR FEARS, THEIR ANXIETIES, ESPECIALLY A FEAR
OF NOT MEASURING UP TO THE CHURCH LADIES, RIGHT?
>AND YOU KNOW I THINK THAT'S WHY WHEN WE, SOME OF THE
STORIES I SHARE IN THE BOOK, ONE PARTICULAR ONE ABOUT A
GIRL NAMED MADISON WITH ALL THE TATTOOS. YOU KNOW I THINK
WHEN WE GET A NEW INSIGHT OR A NEW PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE'S
SITUATION WE SEE WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. THEN WE JUST GO
OH NO, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I JUDGED THIS GIRL OR THIS GUY
OR WHOEVER BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW HER STORY. YOU KNOW WHEN
WE BEGIN TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE COME FROM AND THE HURT THEY'VE
GONE FROM OR PERHAPS THE GUILT THEY FEEL, THOSE THINGS ARE
BINDING THEM UP. THEY ARE BOUND UP IN THAT SO THAT'S WHY
AGAIN ONCE WE COME TO KNOW CHRIST AS OUR SAVIOR WE'RE SET
FREE AND WE CAN LOVE OTHERS AND HELP OTHERS TO SEE GOD'S
LOVE FOR THEM.
>YOU KNOW I'M THINKING OF SOMETHING I READ ABOUT A
MILITARY MAN THAT WAS GOING TO CHURCH WHERE HE WAS STATIONED
AND HE FOUND A CHURCH HE WANTED TO ATTEND AND DROVE UP
BUT HE HAD ON BLUE JEANS AND DROVE UP IN A TRUCK AND SO
FORTH, AND YOU KNOW THEY WOULDN'T LET HIM IN BECAUSE HE
HAD BLUE JEANS ON.
>IT BREAKS MY HEART.
>AND THAT WAS A SAD, AND THIS WAS A TRUE STORY.
>AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO WAKE UP. WE NEED TO WAKE UP
AND REMEMBER WHAT WE ARE CALLED TO DO, TO BE THE HANDS
AND FEET OF JESUS. AND AS YOU SAID EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM
JESUS WAS OUT WITH ORDINARY PEOPLE.
>ORDINARY PEOPLE. HE SAID HE CAME TO SAVE WHOM? THE LOST,
NOT THE SICK, TO HEAL THE SICK AND SAVE THE LOST. HE DIDN'T
COME TO THOSE THAT WERE ALREADY WELL AND SO FORTH. AND
THEN IT COMES DOWN TO LOVE. LOVE CAN TRANSFORM US, IT CAN
BUILD A BRIDGE BETWEEN US AND THE PEOPLE OUT THERE CAN'T IT?
>THAT'S RIGHT AND YOU KNOW I'VE RUN ACROSS SO MANY WOMEN
AS I'VE BEEN IN THIS SEARCH OF FINDING REAL CHURCH LADIES
LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO HAVE LEFT SUCH A LEGACY IN
MY OWN LIFE AND I TALK ABOUT HOW GOD USES PEOPLE AND
CIRCUMSTANCES TO CONNECT THE DOTS IN OUR LIVES, YOU KNOW.
AND I JUST LOVE THAT HE GAVE ME ROMANS 12, NINE THROUGH 21
TO KIND OF SET THE OUTLINE FOR THIS BOOK. AND IF YOUR READERS
WILL READ THAT THEY'LL UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THIS
BOOK.
>WELL WE VERY OFTEN GIVE OUT REFERENCES AND ENCOURAGE THEM
TO GO AND READ THOSE PORTIONS OF SCRIPTURE. BUT ONE OF THE
THINGS YOU SAY AND WE NEED TO GET IT OUT, CHURCH LADIES ARE
REAL WOMEN, THEY ARE REAL PEOPLE. AND SO THEN YOU'VE GOT
A WHOLE CHAPTER ON CHURCH LADIES TAKING CARE OF THEIR
CHURCH MAN.
>THAT'S RIGHT.
>AND YOU DIDN'T HESITATE TO PUT IT IN THERE THAT WE'RE
VERY REAL WHEN IT COMES AND SHOULD BE IN THE HOME WITH OUR
CHILDREN AND ALSO IN THE MARITAL RELATIONSHIP. YOU WANT
TO SPEAK ON THAT REAL QUICK?
>YES I JUST THINK THAT IT'S TIME FOR CHURCH LADIES,
CHRISTIAN WOMEN TO RECOGNIZE NOT ONLY CAN THEY BE GODLY AND
SENSUAL, THEY SHOULD BE.
>I COULD NOT BELIEVE YOU PUT THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER AND
I THOUGHT IT WAS DONE SO WELL. GODLY AND SENSUAL, AS LONG AS
IT'S WITH THEIR HUSBAND. GOD DESIGNED MARRIAGE DIDN'T HE?
>THAT'S RIGHT. AND SATAN HAS PERVERTED THE SEXUAL THINGS SO
MUCH. YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT HOW YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SEX
OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE BECAUSE IT'S OUTSIDE OF GOD'S PLAN.
>AND THAT'S TRUE.
>AND THAT IS TRUE, VERY TRUE. BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE AS WOMEN
NEED TO REALIZE BUT IN MARRIAGE DO IT. YOU KNOW YOU
SHOULD BECAUSE YOUR MAN WAS WIRED DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU AND
IF WE'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF OUR MAN DR. FREDA, THERE ARE
MANY WOMEN OUT THERE WHO WOULD LOVE TO.
>THAT WOULD PICK UP WHERE WE LEAVE OFF SO TO SPEAK. SO IT
COMES DOWN TO BEING THE REAL PERSON THAT WE ARE, RIGHT?
DOING GOOD AND LOVING PEOPLE SO THAT WE ATTRACT THEM TO
CHRIST.
>THAT'S RIGHT, THERE'S NO COOKIE CUTTER FOR THE CHURCH
LADY. THERE'S NO COOKIE CUTTER FOR ANYONE IN THIS WHOLE
WORLD. GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY SON.
THAT MEANS YOU AND ME AND EVERYONE WHO'S WATCHING AND
THOSE WHO ARE NOT. GOD LOVES US AND WE'RE UNIQUE
INDIVIDUALS AND WE ARE AGAIN IF WE ARE BELIEVERS IN CHRIST
JESUS, WE ARE THE CHURCH, LET'S GO OUT AND BE THE LIGHT.
HE PUT US ON A HILL AND HE'S NOT GOING TO PUT A BUCKET OVER
US. INSTEAD HE SAYS SHINE, SHINE THE LIGHT FOR ME AND
REFLECT ME.
>AND WOMEN OUGHT TO BE FREE TO DO IT.
>YES THAT'S RIGHT.
>FREE TO DO IT. I THINK THE LORD HAS GIVEN YOU SOME
UNUSUAL INSIGHTS, GREAT ENTHUSIASM, GREAT COMPASSION
AND YOU'VE WRITTEN A GREAT BOOK AND I ENCOURAGE OUR
VIEWERS TO MAKE SURE THEY GET A COPY. I THINK THAT THEY WILL
FIND IT VERY INTRIGUING AS I DID. THE LORD BLESS YOUR
MINISTRY.
>THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>THANK YOU FOR COMING AND I DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE WITH
YOU PLEASE DON'T GO AWAY. I HAVE A PRAYER REQUEST ACTUALLY.
>
>
>WHAT A WONDERFUL PRAYER REQUEST AND CERTAINLY WE HAVE
ALREADY TAKEN THIS PRAYER REQUEST TO OUR HEAVENLY FATHER
KNOWING WITH HIM, WITH HIM THIS REQUEST IS POSSIBLE. THAT
HE CAN, AND IT DOES START WITH THE LORD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT
GIVING THE HUSBAND A DESIRE TO BE A CHRISTIAN, A CHILD OF GOD
AND WE DO HOPE WE'LL HEAR SOON THAT THIS SITUATION HAS TURNED
AROUND. AND THEN I HAVE A GREAT ENCOURAGEMENT COMING IN
FROM INDIA.
>
>
>AND OF COURSE AGAIN WE APPRECIATE GETTING THOSE KINDS
OF NOTES COMING IN AND KNOWING THAT WE HAVE VIEWERS. IN FACT
I UNDERSTAND WE CAN BE SEEN JUST ABOUT ANY PLACE IN THE
WORLD AT SOME TIME OR OTHER IF ONE HAS THE PROPER RECEPTACLES
AND SO FORTH. WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR WHAT THE LORD IS
DOING THROUGH TIME FOR HOPE AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU PRAY
FOR US AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU JOIN US FINANCIALLY AND WE
WOULD ASK ALSO THAT YOU JOIN US AGAIN NEXT WEEK
TIME FOR HOPE.
>TO ORDER RESOURCES, FOLLOW ON-SCREEN INSTRUCTIONS.
>UNTIL NEXT TIME, HAVE A GREAT WEEK
AND REMEMBER, IT IS TIME FOR HOPE.
.