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one of the darkest hours of humanity
tonight the holocaust
ann frank
and where we go from here
in the cities
this month will be a somber one is the quad cities looks back in time it was the
beginning of the end of world war two
awertiz would be liberated in january of nineteen forty five
but it was not until this month
april
of nineteen forty five
when allied troops reach the death camps of or drop
broken vault
bergen ballston
and dot hau
he was in april when we fully witness the horrors of the
associated with the nazi program of jewish extermination
wqpt and western illinois university will have a number of programs to mark
the holocaust in a april that still ahead
and davenport's putnam museum is just open a new exhibit called ann frank a
history for today
well on that as well in a moment
but we begin tonight with the first hand memories of a woman who suffered at the
hands of the nazis
in the infamous altruistic birkenau concentration camp for name
is a eva schloss
her family and flood in norway discovered by nazi troops in may of
nineteen forty four only eva and mother survive the eight months of imprisonment
her brother and father perished
it which lost joins us tonight
thanks so much for joining us think you're right about seventy
it must be still
as you're saying more than sixty years later
painful painful memories that i could not even conceive of
how do you deal with it day in and day out
well specialist a loss of a few other families it is something that just ever
get over
you know i lost my father he was forty five years old
and that process just eighteen
this is some saying
this is something that i will never forget and never forgive
own suffering
you get over eventually
but um...
and the memory of oldest is something let's have to be something that's just _ for
ever
used told me that uh... discussing it with children
seems to be one of the highlights of why you keep doing this in the children
asked you
the most probably in innocent questions
well you soon they will be our future our new generation
will grow up
who will be the leaders in the country's and say has stood and said have to know
what little things like bullying we need to stop this bullying
this discrimination just disliking somebody
can eventually become
hate and extermination and
teriable murder
to nobody could ever expected that this would happen in germany
one of the
most culture educate country in europe that and to go from that point a to
point b_ sometimes doesn't take much does it no no i didn't think it it
didn't
let's start with your life you lived in austria
you excaped to belgium then holland
one in the hiding when you were thirteen
what was life like in hiding
for who had just turned
into a teenager
well if you know in holland I felt very happy again
we were together has a family
the dutch were very very
uh...
uh... friendly to jewish people
we felt really good and then suddenly the nazis
occupied the country
the measured against the people
started to come
slower dave but nevertheless
justice fetuses everywhere else
and um my brother who just turned sixteen was called up
to go to germany to work camp
but it wasn't of course they were death camps
and his friend, father and many others
has well has ana fathers
as well this edit we would go into hiding
and hiding means to pretend you don't exist
use davis in our case he still stay with people
stay people who uh... mm people usually that the resistence
stands
and it's a cottage
for that I'm very very gratefull
risking their own live
to help jewish people
i was thinking just that has the courage of those people in the may put
themselves at great risk definitely definitely
and many many their call it
and um...
many best shot many were in camps
two years almost two years you're in hiding as a teenage girl with the your
mother
and your father right no we were seperated you know the apartments in holland were very small
and um... so we have to split up
so that at this time it was my mother and my father and different into a different
place
success of costs even more difficult for us because
you know we had good relations
mothers got along very well
never the less to be coop up with one person
face out anything outside peace out give us the ability to talk about
but that we do whatever there was nothing
has a child like ana you would sit down and wrote
or my papa he did paintings
by the way he has exhibit in the putnam musuem
and um...
you know so our friends were so bored frastruated i wanted to go
out and play n
wanted to go in bicycle and what i wanted to go skating or swimming
and i just have to sit still
so you know what do you do
fourteen hours a day just sitting still
and then you discovered
your betrayed you say
by a woman that you trusted
uh... yes by a dutch nurse
she pretending is was a members of relgious things
but she was really working with the nazis
you end up in the camp
and and life there
around a bit more cruel
unbelieve it was unbelievable
we were lucky we pasted the first selection
because many many people from our transoirt
more than half
never made it to the camp
took you straight to the gas chambers and killed at at
young people children older people
sometimes people who just was a journey at looks sick
looked as a pale
right away were gassed
it sounds when you hear of it that you spent from up on main of nineteen forty four
until virtually april or may
elected forty five in the prison
soul about a year eight months nine on twelve years that end of january there
end of january we were liberated by the russian army
uh... the western camps like you mentioned
that i think that that's a pretty soon americans and the french
but um...
we were in poland so the russians were there
and um ... january twenty seven was the day
which we call now um...
liberating of awertiz i don't know what date was because
he had no idea
we knew it was winter but thats has much has we know
and um... uh... said germans left
because they were afraid of the russians
russians came in and we were sort of free
but of course you know it was mid winter we had no clothes no money
couldn't just
go anywhere
we stayed with the russians camps at first
they registered stuff and then
bus fierce fighting going on in poland because it
germans have at a much afraid of the russians coming into germany
said that he said to be because it
events himself sometimes late day terriable ways
so um...
the fighting in poland was really really fierce
even came back to awersitz once
the russians realized it was safe for us to
stay
evacuated us
but they couldn't go waste yet soviet and east
antique settled for four months
uh... very often it just in a sideline and that army
schooling
he starts output by starts to fight
waiting on trains
so like for four months
eventually
when you say we did you and your mother were the survivors
for a while you didn't even know that she had survived and of course your
father parish in your brother perished at the camps as well well up
most of the people when the germans realized the russians were coming
they vacuated the camps
and so sad and people have to walk out the sick camps with cloths
without food
and after the war they are called
tens of millions of people
died
course the big
person we always think of is ann frank and her famous diary children read it
in schools all across america
all over the world...very true
how important is her story do you think
well sets are so very very first story
to tell the world ticket book which was published
about a little bit but that's happened in
occupied holland
so abt
really not a holocaust story lack many books give update there
people are leaving or
who tell about
my books itself
in the concentration camp
but that set time you know
many years after the war
people didn't want to hear anything about it
so is it that it was sort of an introduction the first time
people
that's something about but that happen
that is has far has people really wanted to go
when the book came out in america in nineteen fifty two
it was an immediate bestseller
and you didn't really want to start talking about this until nineteen
eighties
that's when you kind of came forward want
changed your life that made you say
i need to talk about this publicly
well it's a exactly the ann frank exhibit
its can be really in london at the time I was married had three daughters
and um...
first the ann frank exhibition came to england
in nineteen eighty six
i was invited of course to attend
and that never spoken out
not only about the awetiz about nothing
and um...
when it opend i was asked
in london
and up he said
come in and sit at the head table
the check dates so that many people sitting it everybody spoken at seventy
said
and that eva they want to say a few words to you
i can assure you i had nothing to say i wanted to
disappear
and um... that everybody looked expectantly
and so everything that was surpressed for forty years came flooding out
that really changed the course of my life
because of us ask afterwards many many times to speak
to tell my story
and to write a book
and so this is just right there
evan let me end the conversation with you in that way
um...
the story must be told i would think
i mean you can't keep your voice silent now
no but this is a very important to note that your kids
educate our new and young generation
about the danger
off discrimination and racism
and take that can send them out
this is what the germans obviously where
and um... not everybody agreed but not everyone went along
Eva Schloss thanks so much for joining us thank you from the quad cities and sharing
your story that you sir it was a pleasure
in a moment we'll tell you about the putnam museums ann frank exhibit
but first and frank's diary seen through the eyes of artists a ballet called
pages from a young girl's life is a performance mastered by the ballet quad
cities tonight apportion of that powerful performance
that's ballet quad cities at his performance of pages from the young
girl's life you can see performed again later this month and wqpt artist profile
new locally produced program artists in profile
it's coming up april twenty seventh at seven here in w_qpt
we're also revisiting wqpt_ special presentation of the three esters
a program called the lives of three quad city women each named esther
each a survivor of the holocaust
the first aired in nineteen eighty-three will update their stories monday april
thirtieth eight at night
the three esthers also inspired a series of children's books featuring the three
women who saw so much
when they were so young
story caught the eye of an author who felt those stories
must live on
joining us tonight is
deb bali
deb how are you I'm great thank you
deb a book by me
very interesting
we are you got this whole beginning
sitting in a synagogue for the very first time and inspired you to tell the
stories tell me about so ture
our daughter was a middle school at the time and she challenged to me and to
take her to the three on the show advantage here holocaust survivors
speak
and so i took her and it was then i realized that local survivors about a
dozen at that time and three shared the name esther
and that sparked my
interest and as i came back the next year and i saw that the three esthers
were still there but we have lost a survivor
and
started working in my heart that i wanted to keep their stories alive
the next generation in a format that kids would would use in the classroom
seem interesting a person for aledo
touched in a synagogue
to tell the stories but also to tell them
through the eyes of a child
yes really special interesting way that you're doing this
yes i i really feel that children's artwork
makes things more palatable
and so i had to use the kids to first esther
and and several of them took the writing project on and
they heard the story from her first hand and then they wrote in a in a very
simple uh... children's book format and the illustrated it so and we had several
books to choose from that were amazing and um... so with the help of member for
jewish community
choose the one that we liked the that's esther had input in that as well
and then we moved on to esther catts ends uh... several children in the
community heard that story in wrote about her as well
you've heard eva our last segment uh... talking about surviving the holocaust
also talking about it
and how receptive young people are right
what do you think that is why is there such a fascination
uh... and almost a need to know more
but i think
kids has innocence about them
and they also know right from wrong
and this is so wrong and detailed how these people were treated was so wrong
they can even compare it for whats going on in the lunch room
that bullying i mean
that's a real problem
uh... certainly was when we were kids than it is today so they can identify
with it
now you also have a new book of your own
uh... i'll walk with esther operation rights now w r i t e right now
tell me about that
well and
as i A
continued to interview people from the wilbur to generation after the esters
stories were told
uh... starting with the world war two uh...
camp liberators so our soldiers
uh... and then by rightous gentiles people who gave aids activists to the jews
risk their lives didn't have to
uh...
it just occurred to me that my life was becoming very fascinating i
was meeting such amazing people
and there were stories behind the stories i would hear the story that i
would introduce them to a child uh... typically become who would become the
and there was always stories behind the story and my daughter and she is the
one hand against me as i said she was in middle school and now
as the writing project is growing she's in high school
and then college to become a teacher and now she has the full teacher
and you know just the experience as it evolved through her eyes so she is
cooperate with the she's she's telling her story about meeting all these
amazing
people one as you said a i mean cupid's it's gone and the book form
and your filled with so much information about somebody interesting people
and critically important stories to share
that you're not visiting schools you're visiting the civic clubs your you're
visiting associations all over the place you're spreading the word of what
happened in more than just book form absolutely
and neighboring states are hearing about what i'm doing site i'm getting projects
from
north carolina from colorado from from across the country i work with foreign
exchange students part-time and so international kids and they're involved
as well german students austrian students
and students from the middle east some asian kids i mean it's
it's pretty phenomenal and i can only assume that there's more stories to tell
yes
there is a out there are many more stories to tell does that that's planned
watching operation right now dot you are i t e
uh... it is time to meet these people and we have a short window
meet them hear their stories and kids interview them all my authors are
eighteen years are younger and
that is my dream that we get many many many more stories still deb thanks so
much for joining us thank you i do appreciate it
our special on the three eshters aire april thirty and w q p_t_ and then
four days earlier on the twenty sixth
former western illinois university president alvin goldfarb be sharing his
stories of his parents who survived the holocaust
dr goldfarb recently returned to europe word's mother and father once called
home we talked with him about that experience last year on the cities you
can hear more of this fascinating story during a community presentation and
western illinois university to riverfront campus in moline
as we head into the easter weekend lora adams adds to your must do list as she
does
out in about
welcome to go out and about i'm lora adams coming up on wqpt is circus of
dreams but highlight the light in cirus smikus
watch billard pros across the state iowa pool players
state championship represent your that morning
or indulge our appetite while serving those in need of the landing they're
hosting a lasagna night progressive care at the putnam museum the exhibit
ann frank a history for today includes photographs of the frank family and
other occupants of the secret acts
and shows how people were persecuted by political decisions and by the actions
of individuals onstage a midsummer night's dream will be presented a calvin
klein st ambrose university shakespeare's classic comedy brings
brings your life
while the prenzie players production of shakespeare's tightness and funny
because it is one of the season and death
celebrating its three year last comic standing is that there is
only locally produced comedy competition
area comics compete for cash and prizes all of the claim the title of last quad
city comic standing and there are still a few performances left is circa
twenty one musicals southern cross roads
the dispatch calls it one of the best sellers i've ever seen at the rock
island dinner theater and i agree
break evening of entertainment the nerd
opens on april twelfth geneseo for information on these and other events
log on to wqpt_ dot o_ r_ g_
thanks lora as we said earlier davenports putnam museum is open the doors
to a new exhibit called ann frank by history for today
it's being presented through a partnership with the jewish federation
of the quad cities
it's part of two months of programming centering on the holocaust at the
davenport museum
and joining us from the putnam issues who is the chief curator
at the bottom thanks so much for joining us my pleasure it hasn't been open that
long just less last weekend but what's been the response so far
uh... it's been wonderful um... we had a bus tour from
burlington
we had a dinner with eva
uh... on um... monday evening and we were
planning four eighty and ended up with a hundred and sixty
and and so yesterday at school groups are starting to come and see programming
related to the exhibit finance really great
we're talking about ann frank in trying to put it almost into our sensibilities
of how we live today what is in this exhibit that seems to be
touching your heart strings or touching some of the people if you've seen walk
through it
well certainly the experiences that and the other
uh... members um... um... those who are affected by the holocaust
by many that and their stories have a
lifts try to survive
than than those who did survive
um...
and bag its still
things that can happen today uh... bullying um...
prejudice
all of those things and are just the beginning of what happened in the
holocaust
and so we need to make those choices to stand up against those things
what in particular will people see at the putnam
when the traveling display called ann frank a history for today
comes from the ann frank center in new york
and so that's a traveling display a timeline of ann's life
uh... and set against the events of uh...
world war two
and and then rise of the nazis
um... that then the exhibit supplemented three on the jewish federation security
uh...
images of the paintings in fact
eva schloos brother and father did
on when they were in hinding and so we have reproductions of those as well some
artifacts that eva has loaned us
that belong to otto frank and frank family
this is uh... an exhibit that actually extends outside of the museum walls and
so many different ways and you've got other events are going on at other
locations the library you would try to make this more of a
community
uh... recognition right now when alan ross that that executive director of the
jewish federation dot the project to us that was always the attacked
on because he works with so many uh... different groups in the community
so giving all of them an opportunity to do associated programming during this
month and next and so we're trying to promote all of those so that people have
an opportunity to not only come to the museum but to outdoor um...
locations and learn about the holocaust in people's experience and remember
can not only is i mean the the putnam always seems to be uh... on the cutting
edge in so many different ways in your opinion just so uniquely able to show us
now in the past take us into the future and one where you're doing that is with
the uh... theater that you have gotten grand theater
sometime and out once again it sounds like these are programs that are
available to everybody who could learn from it
fourteen kind of targeting children
on the fifteenth of your program will be the rescuers in may nikki's family
tell me about those efilm something
uh... those are two holocaust themed films uh...
that allen asked us to present in the gaint screen theater
and day deal with people
tell the stories that people who
unhelpful rescue jews using get them out of
um... the countries that were uh... under not nazi occupation
and as we're saying is that you did aim towards children you also have that's in
the area libraries uh... children's art exhibit attribute
two children in the holocaust comes in
that's fascinating as well yet
uh... that was actually an another eva
connection um... even had a co writer on her but the promise
and through that experience barbara powers started that doing a portrait
children who i'm did not survive the holocaust and said that it's on
display ads uh... the rock island public library this would be something that an
adult would look at
and and
and we understand as best we can what happened
i wonder how easy is it to explain something to a child is this appropriate
children of all ages
what what do you say to parents who might be concerned what bring my child
there or not
and certainly some of the images in the exit that might be disturbing two young
children
um... because it is death
and that sort of things that really middle-age ir middle school
children end up is what we're targeting
on for this school program especially
uh... and so he but they experience bullying and
uh...
being picked on and those sorts of things and that's
here just the beginning of what could happen
to someone and to make those choices on whether or not to
stand up for someone who is being picked on and or not so is starting to talk
about it at that age is very appropriate it seems also that what the museum is
trying to do is open dialogue and discuss
not only the holocaust what happened in the nineteen thirties and forties but
also
mhm like he said that some of the uh... of local impact as well and and what
children facing in today's cruel world yeah certainly
uh... the even adults everyone can
be affected by foresee
uh... for
intolerance prejudice
and if it's a choice whether or not to uh... say something or not
and so that programming it adult program that we have the films
all of the whole package really
uh... makes people aware inspect thinking and talking about
you know what would she do in this situation
this is an amazing exhibit in a amazing program and the like we said
spending some two months with the putnam in a lot of it
thanks to the jewish federation of the quad cities how important it is
sponsors and partners like that
uh... it's incredible for for the museum we have
limited resources are limited staff and so anytime we can partner with other
groups too
bring something and that leverage is what we are we're able to do
and the jewish federation is partner in this they've got the project
to us
did the fund-raising as well from and gave us the ability to carry out this
program
eunice thanks so much for joining us once again you know the putnam museum's
website you have all the details all the day's 'cause we have
giving you all lot of information tonight about the holocaust remembrance
events in the quad cities
to find out how wqpt playing a part in it
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