San DIego Week: Friday, May 20


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FROM THE KPBS STUDIOS THIS IS SAN DIEGO WEEK.
HELLO. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. A KPBS WATCH DOG INSTITUTE INVESTIGATION REVEALS SOME SCHOOLS
IN RICH NEIGHBORHOODS ARE RECEIVING MORE TAX DOLLARS AND IN CALIFORNIA THAT ISN'T SUPPOSED
TO HAPPEN. HOW DOES A TINY RESTAURANT IN OCEANSIDE REPRESENT CHANGE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY?
CEASA CHAVEZ HAS RECEIVED MANY HONORS. NOW THE NAVY IS NAMING A SHIP AFTER HIM.
PLUS ALL THE MURAL NEWS THAT'S FIT TO TELL. YES MURALS OLD AND NEW ARE MAKING THE NEWS.
THAT'S ALL COMING UP BUT FIRST THE HEADLINES.
PEGGY PICO JOINS ME FROM THE NEWS CENTER. PEGGY.
THE GOVERNOR'S REVISED BUDGET IS BEING CALLED IMMIXED BAG ACTION A JUMP IN REVENUE ALONG
WITH SPENDING CUTS HAVE REDUCED THE STATE DEFICIT BY ABOUT NINE BILLION DOLLARS. BROWN
SAID TAX EXTENSIONS ARE STILL NEEDED TO CLOSE THE 26 MILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET GAP. DURING THE
REVISED ANNOUNCEMENT HE WARNED LEGISLATORS IT'S NO TIME FOR A FISCAL GIMMICK OR SHORT
TERM FIX.
IN SAN DIEGO AN UNEXPECTED NINE MILLION DOLLARS WILL HELP CURTAIL CITY BUDGET CUTS. TAXES
ON HOTEL REVENUES ACCOUNT FOR THE EXTRA MONEY. THE MAYOR SAID HE WOULD LIKE TO USE THE MONEY
TO KEEP REC CENTERS AND LIBRARIES OPEN LONGER BUT WARNING MORE STABLE SOURCES ARE STILL
NEEDED.
THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO IS ONE CITY THAT HAS NEVER HAD A LOT OF DIFFERENT TAXES. OUR THREE
BIGGEST TAXES ARE PROPERTY TAX, SALES TAX AND TRANSTAX. WE DON'T HAVE A TAX ON UTILITY,
CELL PHONE TAX, PROPERTY TRANSFER TAX THAT'S LARGE LIKE MOST CITIES. I DON'T ANTICIPATE
IN THE FUTURE WE WILL SEE THAT.
Reporter: HE SAID SAN DIEGO MUST BE CAREFUL NOT TO OVERSPEND WHEN REVENUES HIGHER THAN
EXPECTED.
HOME SALES CONTINUE TO DROP, SAN DIEGO BASED DATA QUICK REPORTS HOME SALES DROPPED BY MORE
THAN 3% THIS MONTH. HOUSE PRICES ALSO DROPPED, THE MEDIAN PRICE FOR A CALIFORNIA HOME IS
$249,000.
AND A SIT IN AT MUSEUM OF MODERN ART IN SAN DIEGO STARTED ON THURSDAY. THEY ARE AGAINST
THE DEMAINMENT OF A ARTIST FROM CHINA. HE WAS THE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR FOR THE OLYMPIC
STADIUM IN BEJING. OFFICIALS SAY HE COMMITTED ECONOMIC CRIMES BUT SUPPORTERS SAY HE WAS
ARRESTED FOR CRITICIZING THE GOVERNMENT. HIS WORK CAN BE SEEN AT MUSEUM OF MODERN ART IN
DOWNTOWN.
HARVEY MILK'S NEPHEW JOINED SAN DIEGO TODAY TO HONOR HIM.
HE GAVE UP HIS LIFE 32 YEARS AGO KNOWING THAT THE FIRST OF ANY CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WHO
SO CLEARLY AND LOUDLY PROCLAIMED THEIR RIGHT TO EQUALITY MOST OFTEN MEETS A VIOLENT AND
SUDDEN END.
Reporter: THE FOUNDATION PROMOTES EQUALITY AND JUSTICE. THEY ARE CLOSELY FOLLOWING PROPOSITION
EIGHT. BACKERS WANT THE DECISION THROWN OUT. THE TRIAL JUDGE WHO IS GAY REFUSED TO RECAUSE
HIMSELF.
FORMER CALIFORNIA SPEAKER IS NOT APOLOGIZING FOR HIS SON'S ROLE IN THE 2008 STABBING DEATH
OF LOUIS SANTOS. HE DEFENDS THE FORMER GOVERNOR'S DECISION TO COMMUTE HIS SON'S SENTENCE. HE
BLAMES HIS POLITICAL STATUS FOR HARD PUNISHMENT OF HIS SON.
WHEN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IN SAN DIEGO WAS DONE WITH ESTEBAN THEY DEALT WITH HIM DIFFERENTLY
THAN WITH EVERYBODY ELSE AND TO ME THAT WORE ON ME BECAUSE I FELT DEEPLY THAT BEING WHO
I AM HURT MY SON.
THE DA AND THE VICTIM'S FAMILY ARE SUING TO NULLIFY THE COMMUTED THE SENTENCE. TO SEE
MORE AND HEAR ALL OF THE TOP STORIES GO TO KPBS.ORG. >>
IN CALIFORNIA NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY VALUES SHOULD NOT DETERMINE HOW WELL A PUBLIC SCHOOL
IS FUNDED. A COURT RULING MADE MORE THAN 40 YEARS AGO ORDERED THE STATE TO CLOSE THE FUNDING
GAP BETWEEN SCHOOLS IN RICH AND POOR NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS WEEK AS SPECIAL INVESTIGATION BY US AND
THE WATCH DOG INSTITUTE FOUND THAT DESPITE THAT COURT RULING ARE SOME SCHOOLS IN SAN
DIEGO COUNTY THAT ARE RECEIVING ALMOST TWICE THE FUNDING THAT OTHER SCHOOLS GET AND MOST
OF THEM ARE IN RICH NEIGHBORHOODS. JOINING ME TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION IS
KEVIN CROK. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
LET'S START OFF, TO TALK ABOUT THE COURT RULING BACK IN 1968, CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT SAID
THAT BY VIRTUE OF PROPERTY VALUE --NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO FUND THEIR SCHOOLS
BETTER THAN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PROPERTY VALUES WERE LOWER. NOW THE STATE REACTED TO
THAT, HOW DID THEY REACT?
THEY REACTED BY PUTTING IN REVENUE LIMITS. IT'S AN AMOUNT OF GENERAL FUNDING SCHOOLS
GET PER STUDENT. SO THAT IS HOW THEY REACTED AND IT'S BASED ON THE SIZE OF A SCHOOL, NUMBER
OF STUDENTS AND OTHER FACTORS.
SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENED A FEW YEARS AFTER THAT, SOMETHING CALLED PROPOSITION 13. WHAT
DID THAT DO TO SCHOOL FUNDING?
PROPOSITION 13 CAME IN AND WIPED OUT A LOT OF THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT LOCAL DISTRICTS
WERE GETTING. SO, SINCE THEY WERE GETTING A LOT LESS LOCAL REVENUE THEY WERE COUNTING
ON THE STATE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LOCAL REVENUE AND THE REVENUE LIMIT.
WE GOT THIS SYSTEM THAT NOW GETS STATE FUNDING, EQUAL FUNDING SYSTEM, HOW DID WE END UP WITH
SOME OF THE DISTRICTS THAT WE HAVE LEARNED ARE GETTING MUCH MORE MONEY THAN THAT STATE
FUNDING.
IN CERTAIN AREAS PROPERTY VALUES HAVE RISEN MORE THAN OTHERS AND SOMEPLACES LIKE SANTA
FE, THEY ARE GETTING A LOT MORE LOCAL REVENUE. THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THE REVENUE LIMIT FOR
THE FUNDING THROUGH LOCAL REVENUE.
AND THEN THEY HAVE MONEY LEFTOVER FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES.
RIGHT. THEY CAN KEEP THE EXCESS MONEY TO SPEND ON STUDENTS.
YOU MENTIONED A COUPLE NEIGHBORHOODS. WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? >> CARTIS,
DEL MARCH, RANCHO SANTA FE, JULIAN HIGH.
SO THIS IS MORE MONEY PER STUDENT THAN THEY ARE RECEIVING, DO WE KNOW THE RANGE, HOW MUCH
MORE THIS IS? >> RANGES WIDELY. ONE IS ABOUT $111 PER DOLLARS BUT RANCHO SANTA FE IT'S
$5,800.
HOW DID THEY SPEND IT.
RANCHO SANTA FE THEY ALMOST CUT THEIR CLASS SIZES IN HALF AND THEY CAN USE IT ON OTHER
EXPENSES.
NOW, ULTIMATELY IF WE GO BACK TO THE COURT RULING, BACK IN 1968 THAT SAID WAIT A MINUTE
THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN, HOW IS IT HAPPENING 40 YEARS LATER?
WE DON'T HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER YET AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING INTO.
DO WE KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DECISION IN IS IT --DO WE GO TO THE STATE, THE COUNTY
BOARD OF EDUCATION, WHO IS IN CHARGE OF FINANCE FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS?
STATE LEGISLATURE IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR SCHOOL FINANCE.
AND WE KNOW FROM SOME OF THE REPORTING THIS WEEK THE STATE SUPERINTENDENT DID RESPOND
SOMEWHAT TO THIS INVESTIGATION?
HE SAID THEY ARE LOOKING INTO IT AND THEY KNOW THE INEQUALITIES EXIST BUT ALL THEY ARE
DOING IS LOOKING INTO IT RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU KEVIN.
THANK YOU.
YOU CAN SEE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY THAT RECEIVE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC FUNDING
HOW MUCH MORE THEY GET BY GOING TO THE WEBSIT >> IN A NONDISSCRIPT STRIP MALL IS A SMALL
FAMILY RESTAURANT THAT INCLUDES SOME OF THE CHANGES WE HAVE WITNESSED IN SAN DIEGO IN
THE PAST 10 YEARS. WE TELL YOU THE STORY OF GRANDMA'S.
LIKE MANY OTHER CITIES OCEANSIDE'S POPULATION IS BECOMING MORE DIVERSE, IT WAS A LARGE RETIREMENT
COMMUNITY AND HAS BEEN WELCOMING YOUNGER LATINO FAMILIES OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS. IT ALSO
WELCOMED IT'S FIRST LATINO OWNED RESTAURANT. THE ALL AMERICAN GRANDMA WAS OWNED BY ART
AND DEBBI, THEY SOLD TO MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS IN THEIR LATE 20s. THE CUSTOMERS AN INTERESTING
MIX OF OLDER PEOPLE, LATINO AND MILITARY VETERANS. OCEANSIDE RESTAURANT BRUCE MUNFIELD HAS BEEN
COMING HERE FOR TWO DECADES AND ORDERS SOUTHERN COMFORT FOOD.
IT WAS OWNED BY ALL WHITES AND IT WAS --I USED TO GO TO ED'S AND THEN ALL THE SUDDEN
ED'S WAS CLOSED BECAUSE THEY WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AND THEY HAVE TO FIND ME A PLACE TO EAT BECAUSE
I LOVE GRITS AND SOMEBODY SAID GO UP TO OCEANA AND THERE IS GRANDMA'S PLACE. I COME UP TO
GRANDMA AND THEY HAD MY BOWL OF GRITS AND I WAS HAPPY. >> HAPPY. THAT'S WHAT I LIKE.
MANY OF THEM COME TO GRANDMA'S REGULARLY AND ENJOY BRUNCHES .
WHEN I WAS YOUNGER IT WAS A FIELD AND WE HAD SEVERAL MIGRANT WORKERS WORKING BECAUSE IT
WAS A LARGE AREA. WE HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW. WE HAD LOTS OF MEXICAN PEOPLE WORKING AROUND
THE AREA AND IT WAS LIKE THEIR HOME. IT WAS A COASTAL AREA AND THEY WORKED VERY HARD,
THAT'S WHY THEY DID WELL.
THAT REPUTATION FOR HARD WORK AND CUSTOMER SERVICE HAS SERVED THEM WELL. HE HAS MADE
A POINT TO CATER TO THE OLD CLIENTS AND CATER TO NEW ONES. HE CREDITS HIS SUCCESS TO THE
FACT HE STARTED HERE AS A COOK MORE THAN TEN YEARS AGO.
LEMONADE. I CAME FROM MEXICO FROM 1990. SOMETIMES I GOT HERE --I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND WORKING
AT THE SAME TIME. RESTAURANT, IT WAS A DISHWASHER AND --I MOVED TO THE KITCHEN WHERE I BECAME
A COOK BASICALLY THAT'S HOW I ENDED UP HERE FIRST AS AN EMPLOYEE AND THEN WENT TO ANOTHER
JOB AND THEN CAME BACK AND BOUGHT IT.
HE KEPT ALL THE SAME STAFF INCLUDING TWO OTHER YOUNG MEXICAN MEN WHO DID THE FOOD PREPARATION.
STEADY BUSINESS IN THE DINING ROOM MEANT IT'S ALWAYS BUSY SO HIS HELP IS OFTEN NEEDED IN
THE FRONT.
I HAVE BEEN WORK IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, I HAVE BEEN A DISHWASHER, SERVER LITTLE BIT.
I WATCH OVERALL THE ASPECTS OF THE BUSINESS, EVERYTHING, THAT'S WHY --THAT'S WHAT I THINK,
LIKE SANTA AND YOU KNOW CUSTOMERS AS I IMPROVED OUR RECIPES.
IN THE LAST TEN YEARS THE LATINO POPULATION HAS DOUBLED WHILE THE WHITE COMMUNITY HAS
FALLEN BY 10%. THE CITY'S CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS BEEN TRACKING CHANGES.
THERE ARE A LOT OF HISPANIC BUSINESSES IN OCEANSIDE, THE CATEGORIES WE HAVE NOTICED
INCREASING, RESTAURANTS OF COURSE, CAR REPAIR SHOPS, WE ALSO HAVE SEEN SOME IN THE TECHNOLOGY
FIELD WITH THE GRAPHIC DESIGN SHOPS, WEBSITES, DEVELOPERS, THAT KIND OF. ONE OF THING. ONE
OF THE THINGS I LIKE IS A LOT OF THE HISPANIC BUSINESSES ARE --A LOT OF WHITES ARE GOING
TO THEM BUT --IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR THE HISPANIC CULTURE TO COME TO THE WHITE
OWNED BUSINESSES, THEY KIND OF STICK TO THEMSELVES.
CURRENTLY THERE ARE ABOUT 2,000 LATINO OWNED BUSINESSES IN OCEANSIDE. OWNING GRANDMA'S
RESTAURANT IS A FULFILLMENT OF ONE'S DREAM.
CEASAR CHAVEZ HAS RECEIVED MANY HONORS INCLUDING A STATE HOLIDAY. HE OF COURSE WAS A LABOR
ORGANIZER AND CO FOUNDED THE UNITED FARM WORKER'S UNION. HE DIED IN 1993. THIS WEEK THE SECRETARY
OF THE NAVY ANNOUNCED IN SAN DIEGO THAT HE WOULD RECEIVE ANOTHER HONOR, A NEW NAVY SUPPLY
SHIP. ONE OF SAN DIEGO'S CONGRESSMEN HAS A PROBLEM WITH THE SHIP'S NAME. WE HAVE MORE
ON THE STORY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
Reporter: LET'S START AT BEGINNING. TELL US ABOUT THE SHIP AND THE RELATIONSHIP TO SAN
DIEGO.
IT'S A DRY CARGO SHIP AND ALL THE SHIPS IN THE CLASS ARE NAMED AFTER AMERICAN PIONE,
RS. IT'S BUILT BY GENERAL DYNAMICS NASCO BASED HERE IN BARRIO LOGAN AND THE SECRETARY OF
THE NAVY CAME HERE THIS WEEK TO ANNOUNCE IT WAS BEING NAMED AFTER CHAVEZ.
HOW DID THEY ARRIVE AT THIS NAME?
IT WAS A WAY OF THE COMPANY HONORING IT'S OWN WORKERS, 60% OF THEIR WORK FORCE IS LATINO
AND AS I SAID ITS BASED IN LOGAN AND BEING NAMED AFTER A PIONEER IN THAT COMMUNITY JUST
SEEMED TO FIT TOGETHER.
YOU MENTIONED THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY MADE THE ANNOUNCEMENT. WE HAVE A CLIP OF HIM. HERE
HE IS MAKING THE ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE NAMING.
IT'S SERVICE WAS DIFFICULT, BECAUSE CHAVEZ FACED A SEGREGATED NAVY BUT THAT CHALLENGE
LIKE THE OTHERS HE FACED IN HIS LIFE HELPED FORGE THE LEADER HE BECAME. HIS EXAMPLE BLAZED
A PATH FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. HIS EXAMPLE WILL LIVE THROUGH THIS SHIP.
NOW CONGRESSMAN DUNCAN HUNTER JUNIOR WHO REPRESENTS EAST COUNTY HAS ISSUED A STATEMENT AGAINST
THE NAME. WHAT ARE HIS OBJECTIONS IN.
HE IS SAYING THAT THE NAVY IS MAKING THIS DECISION BASED ON SCORING POLITICAL POINTS
RATHER THAN UP HOLDING NAVY TRADITION AND THAT IF THE NAVY WANTED TO NAME A SHIP AFTER
A LATINO THEY COULD HAVE PICKED SOMEONE WHO HAD A MORE STORIED MILITARY BACKGROUND, HE
MENTIONED A MARINE SERGEANT WHO WAS NOMINATED FOR A MEDAL OF HONOR. HE JUST DIDN'T BELIEVE
CHAVEZ WAS WORTHY OF THE NAMING.
THESE SHIPS AREN'T NECESSARILY NAMED AFTER WAR HEROS.
YES AND CHAVEZ DID SERVE TWO YEARS IN THE NAVY DURING WORLD WAR II BUT, THIS WHOLE CLASS
OF SHIPS IS NAMED AFTER LEWIS AND CLARK AND ROBERT -- RICHARD E BIRD AND AMELIA EARHART.
NOW, CHAVEZ'S SON WAS AT THE CEREMONY AS WELL AND HE SPOKE ABOUT THE NAME AND WHAT THIS
WOULD HAVE MEANT TO HIS DAD AND WE WILL PLAY A CLIP OF THAT.
WE ARE HERE ACCEPTING THIS ON THE BEHALF OF THE LARGER LATINO COMMUNITY. MY FATHER'S STORY
ISN'T DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF THE PEOPLE BUILDING THE SHIP AND PEOPLE WHO BUILT THIS COUNTRY.
WE ACCEPT THIS ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE LATINO COMMUNITY. WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.
NOW BACK --YOU ASKED YOUR READERS, YOU TOLD THEM WHAT YOU THINK AND LET'S LET EVERYBODY
KNOW A LOT OF YOUR READERS ARE ACTIVE OR RETIRED MILITARY. WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE WHEN YOU SAY
WEIGH IN, TELL US WHAT YOU THINK? .
NEARLY EVERYBODY WHO RESPONDED, WHO COMMENTED WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE NAVY AND CRITICAL OF
DUNCAN HUNTER WITH THE BELIEFS THAT DOESN'T HE HAVE SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT TO WORRY
ABOUT IN WASHINGTON LIKE THE DEBT CEILING FOR GAS PRICES, THE BUDGET, AS FAR AS THE
TROOPS ON THE GROUND GO THEY AREN'T WORRIED ABOUT THE NAMING OF A SHIP, THEY ARE -- THEY
HAVE BIGGER CONCERNS OF WHAT'S GOING ON WHEN THEY ARE IN AFGHANISTAN OR IRAQ. THE PEOPLE
WHO DID RESPOND WERE JUST SORT OF CURIOUS AS TO WHY TAKE UP THIS ISSUE WHEN THERE ARE
SO MANY MORE ISSUES GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
IF PEOPLE AT HOME WANT TO READ MORE ABOUT THOSE COMMENTS HOW DO THEY FIND YOUR BLOG?
THEY CAN GO TO HOME POST.KPBS.OR .
MAYBE YOU REMEMBER THAT 1976RAMONE'S HIT AND MAYBE YOU WHY LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE SEEN THEM
AT THE BACK DOOR, A SMALL CLUB ON THE CAMPUS OF SAN DIEGO STATE, A CLUB POPULAR IN THE
70s THROUGH THE 90s. EFFORTS ARE NOW UNDERWAY TO SAVE AMORAL THAT ONCE GRACED THE PASSAGEWAY
NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THAT CLUB. FAMOUS BANDS WOULD HAVE WALKED BY IT BUT SAVING IT IS NO
EASY TASK. SETH IS HERE TO TALK TO US ABOUT IT. WELCOME. .
THANK YOU.
WHAT ABOUT THIS MURAL MAKES IT WORTH SAVING?
TWO FACTORS, ONE IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT. THEN THE OTHERS JUST HOW IT LOOKS. IN TERMS
OF THE SIGNIFICANCE THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT BRINGS TOGETHER SAN DIEGO STATE
HISTORY, VERY IMPORTANT EVENTS IN MUSICAL HISTORY AND THEN THE MOVEMENT OF THE 70s.
THIS MOVEMENT CAPTURES ALL OF THOSE. IN TERMS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEAUTIFUL AND IT
HAS THESE ELECTRIC COLORS AND IT'S A LOT OF FUN TO. IT'S ONE OF THESE MURALS WHERE IT
MAKES YOU SMILE BECAUSE IT HAS ALL THESE AZTEC WARRIORS WEARING KISS LIKE CLOTHING.
DO WE KNOW WHO PAINTED?
YES. HE AND HIS STUDENTS PAINTED THIS MURAL.
YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF WHO WOULD HAVE WALKED BY HERE. WE MENTIONED THE RAMON,
S, WHO ELSE?
THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS, THE STAGING ROOM, THE GREEN ROOM WOULD BE RIGHT ACROSS
FROM THIS MURAL. WOW HAVE THESE BANDS THAT WOULD GO ONTO BE LEGENDS WALK BY IT AND THAT'S
THE GREAT THING ACT THE BACK DOOR. IT'S A SMALL VENUE AND ALL THESE BANDS BEFORE THEY
BECAME GREAT, REM,METALLICA, MANY OTHERS WHEN THEY WERE BABY BANDS, IT'S LIKE A ROOKIE CARD,
BEFORE THEY WENT ON THEY PLAYED THE BACK DOOR AND WOULD WALK BY THIS MURAL.
WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT SAVING IT. WHERE IS IT RIGHT NOW?
IT'S TUCKED IN THE BOTTOM FLOOR OF AZTEC CENTER. IT'S HARD TO FIND. IT REMINDS ME OF IN SPINAL
TAP WHERE THE BAND GETS LOST LOOKING FOR THE STAGE, THERE ARE LOTS OF PIPES AND CORRIDORS,
IT'S HIDEN FROM SIGHT.
IT'S THERE, WHY ARE YOU SAVING IT? WHERE IS IT GOING, WHAT ARE YOU SAVING IT FROM?
AZTEC CENTER IS BEING KNOCKED DOWN AND THE START DATE IS JUNE FIRST. THIS WAS AN EMERGENCY
FUNDRAISING EFFORT TO RAISE THE MONEY FOR THIS TO GET IT OUT BEFORE THAT WRECKING BALL
CAME.
HOW DID YOU FIND OUT?
I HAVE WORKED ON A COUPLE OF MURAL RESTORATION PROJECTS, THEY WERE A LOT EASIER AND WE HAD
TIME ON THEM. WITH THIS ONE THE GREAT THING WAS FOLKS CONTACTED ME BECAUSE THEY HAD SEEN
THE MURALS WE JUST PUT IN THE LIBRARY.
YOU ASKED FOR HELP WITH REMOVING FROM HELP FROM AN EXPERT, EL TELL US ABOUT HIM.
GARY WORKS AT HEARST CASTLE AND DOES SOME FREE LANCE. HE IS ABLE TO PREFORM MIRACLES
BY PULLING VERY OLD PAINT OFF WALLS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT IS PAINT ON POORED
CONCRETE, THIS IS NOT A FRESCO. THIS IS A VERY THIN LAYER OF PAINT THAT WAS PAINTED
ON TO VERY OLD CONCRETE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE AN OVERWHELMING TASK LIKE IT MAY BE IMPOSSIBLE BUT ITS BEEN DONE?
OTHERS HAVE TOLD US IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE BUT GARY HAS A GOOD TRACK RECORD WITH THIS AND
THIS IS WHERE WE TRY TO HELP HIM OUT IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE AND HE IS ABLE TO WORK MAGIC
ON THESE WALLS.
WE SPOKE WITH GARY AND HAVE A CLIP AND HERE IS HOW HE DESCRIBES THE CHALLENGE.
IT'S AN ACRYLIC PAINTING, THE BACK DOOR MURAL AND I'M PROTECTING THE SURFACE WITH DIFFERENT
RESINS, SO IT CAN BE PEELED OFF. THE PAINTING WILL BASICALLY ROLL FROM THE TOP DOWN. IT'S
SORT OF LIKE IF YOU WANT --PEELING A NINE BY 14-FOOT SUN BURN OFF THE WALL OR OFF YOURSELF
I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY.
THAT'S AMAZING. IF YOU HAD SUPPORT, HAVE YOU HAD PEOPLE CALL AND TALK TO YOU?
YEAH. ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS IS THE BACK DOOR HAS A LONG LEGACY, THE FIRST SHOW WAS
IN 1969, JAMES COTTON PLAYED AND THE LAST SHOW WAS IN 1997, THE BREEDERS PLAYED THERE.
SO YOU HAVE THESE THREE DECADES AND PEOPLE HAD SOME OF THEIR BEST EXPERIENCES AT STATE
AT THE SHOWS. JIMMY BUFFET PLAYED AT THE BACK DOOR 14 TIMES. HE IS OUR MOST OFTEN MEMBER
PLAYING THERE AND THEY ARE GREAT STOREY THAT GO WITH IT. THE FUN THING IS MY CO AUTHOR
OTHER AND I HAVE BEEN GETTING STOREYS AND JUST PUTTING THEM TOGETHER. HAVING TO DO WITH
EVERYTHING FROM THE BANDS THEMSELVES TO THE FACT THAT DURING SOME HOUSE YOU WERE ENCOURAGED
TO BRING YOUR OWN FURNITURE, YOU WOULD BRING A BEAN BAG, IT WAS THE 70s. IT WASN'T JUST
ROCK AND ROLL. BLUES, CLASSICAL MUSIC, FOLK, SOME OF THE TOP BANDS IN EVERY GENRE PLAYED
THERE.
FINALLY, WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS MURAL ONCE YOU SAFELY REMOVE IT?
THE SPEED IS TO GET IT OFF THE WALL BUT THEN WE WANT TO RESTORE IT AND WE WANT TO RENE
STALL IT AND PROBABLY THE ALUMNI CENTER OR THE LIBRARY. I WANT IT TO BE A PUBLIC PLACE
WHERE EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT AND WE WILL HAVE AN EXHIBIT WITH IT. WE HAVE OVER 540 SHOWS
AT THE BACK DOOR AND WE GET TO PICK THE BEST PHOTOGRAPHS, THE BEST ARTIFACTS, YOU WOULDN'T
BELIEVE SOME OF THE TICKET STUBS, PROGRAMS, THANK YOU LETTERS AND OTHER ASSOCIATED MATERIALS
FROM THESE SHOWS.
SOUNDS AMAZING, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
YOU'RE WELCOME.
IN OTHER MURAL NEWS A FEW WEEKS AGO WE TOLD YOU ABOUT A MURAL THAT'S BEEN CALLED THE SURFING
MADONNA. IT WAS PUT IN WITHOUT PERMISSION BY UNKNOWN ARTISTS. IT'S TECHNICALLY GRAFITTI
BUT IT'S BECOME SO WELL LOVED THE CITY IS DOING WHAT IT CAN TO PRESERVE IT. IT'S LIKELY
IT CAN'T STAY WHERE IT IS BECAUSE OF SAFETY AND ENGINEERING CONCERNS. THE CITY COUNCIL
HAS AGREED TO SPEND TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HIRE A LOS ANGELES COMPANY TO TEST WAYS TO
REMOVE IT WITHOUT DAMAGING IT. THE CITY HAS HAD SEVERAL OFFERS FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS
WILLING TO INSTALL IT INCLUDING A LOCAL CHURCH.
AND HERE IS PEGGY PICO WITH WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON NEXT WEEK.
TUNE INTO THE MORNING EDITION ON MONDAY FOR THE SPECIAL SERIES THE DRUG WAR AT HOME. WE
WILL LOOK AT THE CRITICAL ROLE BANKS PLAY IN LAUNDERING.
AND MONDAY AT NOON OUR PREMIERE OF MIDDAY EDITION ON KPBS RADIO. WE WILL TALK TO JERRY
SANDERS.
THANK YOU. ALL OF THE STORIES YOU SAW CAN BE SEEN ON THE WEBSITE AT KPBS.ORG/SD WEEK
AND NOW HERE IS A LOOK AT YOUR FORECAST. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING. GOOD NIGHT.