James S.A. Corey extended interview!

Uploaded by geekandsundry on Jun 14, 2012


VERONICA BELMONT: Hey, everyone.
No full episode of The Sword and Laser this week.
But we do have our bonus interview with the duo behind
James SA Corey.
And make sure you watch next week when we have author
George RR Martin on the show.
But tomorrow, of course, a brand new episode of TableTop.
But right now we're going to finish up our
interview with you guys.
Welcome back to the show, Ty and Daniel.
VERONICA BELMONT: So we had a question from Nick, who
actually asked a question in our last interview as well.
He said he listened to Leviathan Wakes on audiobook,
and he noticed that there were a distinct lack of
animals in the book.
Was there any kind of reason behind that?
Or was that written into the world-building somehow?
He was like, maybe it was a food scarcity issue for the
dogs and cats?
DANIEL ABRAHAM: I just don't think cats do real well at
high gravity.
I think the high-g thrust is hard on a cat.

And if it's a low gravity and you've got the cat box, I'm
just thinking no.
I think certainly there are cats and dogs in the world.
But I wouldn't necessarily want to put them on a ship.
TY FRANCK: We actually do talk about on Ceres, which is one
of the larger settlements, we have birds, we have fish,
things like that tend to deal with variable gravities a
little better or lighter gravities a little better.
DANIEL ABRAHAM: Miller's just not a pet guy.
TY FRANCK: Yeah, he's just not.
DANIEL ABRAHAM: I think it's more about just--
Yeah, no.
Dogs and cats are for inners not belters.
TY FRANCK: Exactly.
DANIEL ABRAHAM: Well, or for people who
aren't terminally depressed.
Miller's not a happy fellow.
TOM MERRITT: That's true.
DANIEL ABRAHAM: I can't imagine him coming home and
having a dog galumph and jump in his lap.
VERONICA BELMONT: He needs a therapeutic dog.
It's very stress-relieving to have a pet in your life.
And when you actually physically pet them, it
relieves stress.
So maybe that would help?
TOM MERRITT: Tell Miller.
I think he's the one to talk to.
TOM MERRITT: Kev has a question. "The book features
two main storylines and really a third that unites them.
Detective Miller's storyline, to me, is written in a more
noir style than Holden's story.
What led you guys to write the story in two different
TY FRANCK: So this is the nerdiest answer ever.
But the reason that Miller is written in a noir style is
because when Daniel played in my game he played Detective
Miller, and he played him as a noir character.
VERONICA BELMONT: Oh, so this is in your role-playing game?
TY FRANCK: So when we decided to write the book, he said,
I'm going to write my character.
And that's just who that guy was.
DANIEL ABRAHAM: Part of the idea was that we did want to
take a lot of different genres and squeeze
them all into sci-fi.
We wanted to get kind of the whole kitchen sink feel.
VERONICA BELMONT: It kind of reminds me a little bit of
Byron Lamia's story from Hyperion, which we just read.
Because that has a little bit of a noir aspect to it in some
ways, I would say.
TOM MERRITT: That hit me over the head a
little harder, though.
I like Miller.
Miller seems to not stick out as much.
It seems to fit in the universe.
And I'm a sucker for good noir story.
So I like that.
VERONICA BELMONT: I think you were a
detective in a past life.
Well done, Tom.
Well done.
So we had big news this past month with the first
commercial aircraft actually docking at the International
Space Station, that would SpaceX's Dragon.
VERONICA BELMONT: So what do you guys think about the
privatization of space travel?
DANIEL ABRAHAM: I'm all for it.
I think that putting the incentives so that individual
entrepreneurs get to do the problem solving on that is a
pretty good thing to harness.
I would love it if we were just funding NASA and doing
this as a nation-state government.
But since we're not, I'll take whatever I can get.
And I've always felt that the future of space travel is in
As soon as we can find monetary reasons to go into
space, we'll go.
If we had to have governments flying us everywhere--
Not that the airlines don't screw stuff up sometimes.
But it's much better to have multiple choices.
DANIEL ABRAHAM: Markets are very powerful.
They have drawbacks, and they don't deal with externalities
very well at all.
I believe in government, and I believe in regulation.
But I can't argue that markets aren't
tremendously powerful things.
TY FRANCK: And James Cameron says we should mine asteroids,
and he's King of the World.
VERONICA BELMONT: He knows these things.
He knows so much.
It's so strange.
First he's at the bottom of the ocean.
The next thing, he's going to be mining
asteroids, I just know it.
James Cameron.
TOM MERRITT: Oh, yeah.
If anybody can make it happen.
I definitely believe that.
Finally, I wanted to ask you guys, and for authors I know
sometimes this is a harder question, but do
you get time to read?
And if and when you do, what do you guys read?
DANIEL ABRAHAM: I'm trying to carve out time specifically so
that I can read.
This morning it was a bunch of short
stories by Julio Cortazard.
I don't know that that has anything thing to say to
science fiction in particular, but that's probably why I like
reading it.
TY FRANCK: I've been going back and reading all of the
Jack Vance that I didn't read as a kid.
Jack Vance is one of my favorite authors.
And so I have sort of portioned out his works so
that I didn't read them all at once.
So I went and read a couple of his novellas recently, two
that I hadn't read before.
And next up on my list for him is The Demon Princes, which I
have saved.
But I'm over 40 now, so I shouldn't save anything else.
I shouldn't even be buying green bananas at this point.
DANIEL ABRAHAM: I got a lot of Leigh Brackett too.
I've got a bunch of Leigh Brackett I want to get to.
Because I missed her the first time out, and
I don't know why.
I want to fix that.
Good suggestions, actually, for everybody
out there, good titles.
Thank you guys so much for sticking around and answering
some more questions for us.
TY FRANCK: Thank you.
TOM MERRITT: Don't forget go read Leviathan's Wake by James
SA Corey, or Leviathan Wakes because Caliban's War is
coming up in a couple weeks.
So you want to get it done so you can read the next book in
this series.
And don't forget to check out the next Sword and Laser next
week when we have George RR Martin on the show.
We'll see you then.