Lifestyle & Cancer⎢Daily Dose With Jillian Michaels | Everyday Health


Uploaded by EverydayHealth on 02.05.2012

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Announcer: On today's daily dose,
Dr. Agus talks about his new controversial approach to fighting cancer.
And the question Jillian is dying to ask: Jillian:
What is with the high heels causing cancer? We're back with Dr. Agus.
He's our nations leading cancer researcher and oncologist,
and we're talking about tips to prevent cancer.
Dr. Agus, welcome back.
Janice: Thank you so much.
Jillian: It seems like, obviously, heads are turning,
and the medical community seems to be a little bit up in arms in controversy.
Is the medical community in line with you,
or where are they standing with the stuff we're going to be talking about? Janice:
I don't think there's a generalization answer to that.
Certainly, many of the leaders within the medical community are behind what I do.
I mean, it's science driven, it's randomized trials,
so I don't think you can argue with that.
Many say, well we think this is better.
I say, where's the data? Well we're doing it in case there's data.
And, I don't buy that argument.
Remember, every time we have guessed in our field we've been wrong.
Twenty- five years ago we say, take margarine, not butter.
We killed a couple of million people.
And we keep making those mistakes.
The body's a complex system, which means any little change changes the whole system.
And so, when that's the case, you can't really do well taking this vitamin.
It can't hurt you.
Look at the data.
Jillian: Okay,
you said that you want to treat cancer differently in a new way than you
have in the past.
What do you mean by that? Janice:
The death rate of cancer from 1952 until today has only gone down 8% if
you're diagnosed.
So we've made almost no impact on making people live longer with cancer.
And there are little wins here and there, and I'm as guilty as anyone else.
We go back and we look at the individual gene.
Well, the average cancer on diagnosis is 130 mutations,
so one gene doesn't mean that much.
We have to look at the system.
A great example is,
about eight years ago they took women after breast cancer treatment and they randomized them--half
getting placebo and half getting a drug that builds bone for osteoporosis.
People said, "Why would you do that? These people may have years to live,
why put them on a clinical trial?" Well,
they reduced recurrence of the breast cancer by 40%. Why? Because breast cancer goes to
bone.
You change the soil, the seed doesn't grow.
So,
it was a dramatic test to show and one of the great survival studies in
cancer to show how you change the environment the cancer won't grow.
The amazing thing is you can look under a microscope and you look at the
pathologist whose going to say, hey, that's colon cancer.
It looks a certain way.
It doesn't care what the genetics are.
It will always look like colon cancer.
So we have to start to intersect with that and change that.
Jillian: I tend to look at, I guess because of what I do,
and clearly I'm no doctor,
but I tend to look at drugs as treating a symptom of a problem that's
already been created.
But how do you feel about a lot of the things in our environment that
are toxic, like the pesticides in our food, the artificial sweeteners, the artificial colors,
the preservatives, the hormones that we're giving our livestock? Is any of that,
because when I look at that I think there's no way our body can take
these toxins and these foreign substances and know how to process this.
Janice: Well, I think we have to separate a little bit out.
Yes,
the premise of the book is that I want people to eat real food--not processed
food.
As much as possible know where your food is from.
But we can't lump everything together.
People say, well organic is better.
Well, it may be better, but remember,
an organic fruit or vegetable that's been sitting on the shelf for two or three
days has zero nutritional value.
Jillian: Because it's oxidized.
Janice: It all degrades right away.
Somebody upstairs designed fruits and vegetables when they're picked they start degrading to put nutrients
back into the soil.
So you want to get what's raised locally.
Go to the Farmer's Market, or if you can't do that, get flash frozen,
which in general is a lot better than something that's been sitting at the fancy
organic store for a couple of days, or shipped out of season from South American,
which is going to have very little value.
Know where your food is from.
Ask when you go to the restaurant, is this fish wild,
or is it not? Ask, is this beef, if you're going to have beef,
grass fed or is it not? Ask about the chickens;
were they free range or not? Well saying eggs are bad for you.
Eggs aren't bad for you.
Eggs of a chicken that's been force fed corn feed are very bad for you.
But if you feed a chicken good food,
what do you know of the eggs and the oils in it that are good
for you.
I want people to know about their food,
and by just labeling things organic and not is probably not the best way to
do it.
Don't eat processed food.
Look at the ingredients, the simple ingredients.
Is soy good for you? Yes.
But is processed soy .
. . Jillian: You say soy is good for you? Janice: Yes,
raised soybeans are good for you, but when you debt process soy,
many of the ways we eat it today, it's probably not good for you.
Jillian: [GM] soy, with all the pesticides.
Janice: But anything in too much isn't good for you, is it? It's moderation,
some of everything.
Jillian: Okay, now here's another one that's obviously making headlines.
What is with the high heels causing cancer? What is this? Talk to me about
this.
Janice: We know that inflammation is root of cancer, heart disease, and neurodegeneration.
That data are profound over the last several decades.
It is an aggressive statement,
but if at the end of the day your feet hurt, that's inflammation,
and I don't want that.
I want you to wear shoes that are comfortable.
I want you to do exercises that don't cause pain in the long run.
I want you to stretch first so that you're not sore all the time and
inflamed.
What's the shortest life span of any professional athlete? Football players.
And the inflammation, whether it be their brain or elsewhere is dramatic.
Moving is the greatest thing in the world, but at the same point,
I don't want you to hurt at the end of it.
Jillian: Dr. Agus,
she's making me wrap up because unfortunately I guess you have to work.
Janice: I know.
Jillian: But would you come back? Janice: I would love to.
Jillian: I mean, this has been fascinating, truly,
and I can't thank you enough for your time.
Janice: Thank you.
Jillian: And again, I'm going to say, get the book, "The End of Illness",
it's incredible.
And to learn more about Dr. Agus and all of the great information that he
provides, go to his websites .
. . Janice: Davidagus.com or theendofillness.com.
Jillian: Check it out.
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