Arizona Week - December 07, 2012

>>> TONIGHT ON ARIZONA WEEK, WE WILL TELL YOU ABOUT IT AS GROUND
WILL TELL YOU ABOUT IT AS GROUND IS BROKEN AND WE WILL HEAR THE
IS BROKEN AND WE WILL HEAR THE STORIES OF THREE MEMBERS OF THAT
STORIES OF THREE MEMBERS OF THAT GENERATION THIS, THE ANNIVERSARY
GENERATION THIS, THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR.
OF THE ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR. >> IT WAS SO BUSY, I GUESS HE
>> IT WAS SO BUSY, I GUESS HE NEVER EVEN STOPPED TO FEEL ABOUT
NEVER EVEN STOPPED TO FEEL ABOUT ANYTHING, REALLY.
ANYTHING, REALLY. THEY WERE RUNNING AROUND GETTING
THEY WERE RUNNING AROUND GETTING AMMUNITION.
AMMUNITION. >> WE REALIZE A LITTLE BIT THAT
>> WE REALIZE A LITTLE BIT THAT WHAT MORE WAS COMING TO US, WE
WHAT MORE WAS COMING TO US, WE REALLY -- PEOPLE WERE TALKING
REALLY -- PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON OVER IN
ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON OVER IN EUROPE, BUT WE DIDN'T
EUROPE, BUT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
UNDERSTAND. >> PRODUCTION OF ARIZONA WEEK IS
>> PRODUCTION OF ARIZONA WEEK IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A GRANT
MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY A GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL FOUNDATION
FROM THE STONEWALL FOUNDATION AND MEMBERS OF THE ARIZONA
AND MEMBERS OF THE ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.
PUBLIC MEDIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
SUPPORT. ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR,
ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR, MICHAEL.
MICHAEL. >> A HOST OF DIGNITARIES BROKE
>> A HOST OF DIGNITARIES BROKE GROUND AT THE STATE CAPITOL FOR
GROUND AT THE STATE CAPITOL FOR A MEMORIAL OF THOSE WHO SERVED
A MEMORIAL OF THOSE WHO SERVED IN WORLD WAR II.
IN WORLD WAR II. INCLUDING 2,000 ARIZONA
INCLUDING 2,000 ARIZONA RESIDENTS WHO GAVE THEIR LIFE.
RESIDENTS WHO GAVE THEIR LIFE. WE WILL SHOW YOU TWO BIG
WE WILL SHOW YOU TWO BIG BATTLESHIP GUNS PART OF IT.
BATTLESHIP GUNS PART OF IT. FIRST THE RECOLLECTIONS OF THREE
FIRST THE RECOLLECTIONS OF THREE ARIZONIANS STARTING WITH MAURICE
ARIZONIANS STARTING WITH MAURICE WHO WITNESSED THE ATTACK ON
WHO WITNESSED THE ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR.
PEARL HARBOR. YOU WERE AT PEARL HARBOR AND YOU
YOU WERE AT PEARL HARBOR AND YOU SURVIVED IT.
SURVIVED IT. TELL US ABOUT THAT DAY.
TELL US ABOUT THAT DAY. >> THAT DAY I WAS IN THE
>> THAT DAY I WAS IN THE BARRACKS AND I WAS IN THE
BARRACKS AND I WAS IN THE BARRACKS NEAR THE NAVAL AIR
BARRACKS NEAR THE NAVAL AIR STATION BUT I HAD SHOW STOPS TO
STATION BUT I HAD SHOW STOPS TO GET RID OF.
GET RID OF. I WAS IN THE BARRACKS AND OUR
I WAS IN THE BARRACKS AND OUR BUILDING WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE
BUILDING WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE FIELD AND ON THE SECOND FLOOR I
FIELD AND ON THE SECOND FLOOR I HEARD BANG, BANGING WITH BANG.
HEARD BANG, BANGING WITH BANG. WE SEE THESE PLANES FLYING
WE SEE THESE PLANES FLYING OVERHEAD WITH THE RED DISK ON
OVERHEAD WITH THE RED DISK ON THEM AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE
THEM AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE SEE THEM DROPPING WHAT WE
SEE THEM DROPPING WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE FLOUR SACKS BECAUSE
THOUGHT WERE FLOUR SACKS BECAUSE THE RED FORCE WOULD ALWAYS GO
THE RED FORCE WOULD ALWAYS GO OUT ON MANEUVERS AND FIGHT THE
OUT ON MANEUVERS AND FIGHT THE BLUE FORCE AND WHEN THEY DROPPED
BLUE FORCE AND WHEN THEY DROPPED THE FLOUR SACKS IT WOULD KNOCK
THE FLOUR SACKS IT WOULD KNOCK OUT SO MUCH.
OUT SO MUCH. BUT THIS TIME, WHEN THE -- WHAT
BUT THIS TIME, WHEN THE -- WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE FLOUR SACKS, AND
WE THOUGHT WERE FLOUR SACKS, AND THEY KILLED TWO OR THREE PEOPLE
THEY KILLED TWO OR THREE PEOPLE AT THE MESS HALL AND WE KNEW
AT THE MESS HALL AND WE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON AND IT WAS
WHAT WAS GOING ON AND IT WAS SKIPPING AROUND AND THERE WAS
SKIPPING AROUND AND THERE WAS ONLY LIKE ABOUT EIGHT OF US
ONLY LIKE ABOUT EIGHT OF US THERE OUT OF 198.
THERE OUT OF 198. ONLY ABOUT EIGHT OF US IN THE
ONLY ABOUT EIGHT OF US IN THE BUILDING AT THE TIME.
BUILDING AT THE TIME. AND WE GOT OUT IN THE QUAD
AND WE GOT OUT IN THE QUAD WRANGLE AND THEN THERE'S A AS
WRANGLE AND THEN THERE'S A AS PLANES COME BACK, WE TOOK OFF
PLANES COME BACK, WE TOOK OFF RUNNING FOR THE BUILDING.
RUNNING FOR THE BUILDING. THANK GOD WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY
THANK GOD WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MORE LEFT YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS
MORE LEFT YOU KNOW, AND THAT WAS ABOUT IT FOR NOW.
ABOUT IT FOR NOW. >> IT WAS SO BUSY, THERE WAS NOT
>> IT WAS SO BUSY, THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF AMMUNITION AND THE NEXT
A LOT OF AMMUNITION AND THE NEXT THING WE KNOW, THEY'RE DIGGING
THING WE KNOW, THEY'RE DIGGING FOX HOLES OUT IN THE QUAD ANG
FOX HOLES OUT IN THE QUAD ANG TOLL GET OUT OF THE BUILDINGS
TOLL GET OUT OF THE BUILDINGS AND AS HE WAS DIGGING, ONE OF
AND AS HE WAS DIGGING, ONE OF THE FELLOWS THERE, HIS NAME WAS
THE FELLOWS THERE, HIS NAME WAS EMORY PRATT.
EMORY PRATT. HE TOOK OFF FIRING AT THIS
HE TOOK OFF FIRING AT THIS PLANE.
PLANE. I SAID, HEY, PRATT, WHAT IN THE
I SAID, HEY, PRATT, WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU FIRING AT? HE SAID,
HELL ARE YOU FIRING AT? HE SAID, I'M FIRING AT THAT PLANE.
I'M FIRING AT THAT PLANE. I SAID, YOU DAMN FOOL, THAT'S
I SAID, YOU DAMN FOOL, THAT'S OUR PLANE!
OUR PLANE! HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO
HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW, HE SAID.
KNOW, HE SAID. THAT'S WAIT IT WAS.
THAT'S WAIT IT WAS. CHOPPED DOWN FOUR PLANES THAT
CHOPPED DOWN FOUR PLANES THAT DIED HERE IN TUCSON THREE OR
DIED HERE IN TUCSON THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO, HE SHOT DOWN
FOUR YEARS AGO, HE SHOT DOWN FOUR PLANES THAT DAY.
FOUR PLANES THAT DAY. AND THAT DAY, THOSE FEW PLANES
AND THAT DAY, THOSE FEW PLANES THAT GOT OFF ON THE FIELD AND
THAT GOT OFF ON THE FIELD AND THERE WAS A NEW EMERGENCY FEEL
THERE WAS A NEW EMERGENCY FEEL THERE THAT THE JAPS DIDN'T KNOW
THERE THAT THE JAPS DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT AND I THINK THERE WERE
ABOUT AND I THINK THERE WERE FOUR PLANES OUT THERE AND TAYLOR
FOUR PLANES OUT THERE AND TAYLOR SHOT DOWN FOUR AND THE OTHER
SHOT DOWN FOUR AND THE OTHER FELLOW SHOT DOWN TWO.
FELLOW SHOT DOWN TWO. AND THAT'S ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS,
AND THAT'S ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS, REALLY.
REALLY. AND --
AND -- >> SO THEN IN SUBSEQUENT DAYS,
>> SO THEN IN SUBSEQUENT DAYS, WHAT DID YOU DO?
WHAT DID YOU DO? >> WELL, THEY ALL CAME IN FROM
>> WELL, THEY ALL CAME IN FROM SCHOFIELD, THEY ALL GOT
SCHOFIELD, THEY ALL GOT ORGANIZED AND SO FORTH.
ORGANIZED AND SO FORTH. AND THEY HAD ALL KIND OF RUMORS
AND THEY HAD ALL KIND OF RUMORS GOING AROUND THAT JAPS LANDED
GOING AROUND THAT JAPS LANDED HERE, THE JAPS LANDED THERE AND
HERE, THE JAPS LANDED THERE AND SO FORTH.
SO FORTH. AND WE HAD 11 JAPANESE FELLOWS
AND WE HAD 11 JAPANESE FELLOWS IN OUR OUTFIT THAT CAME IN WITH
IN OUR OUTFIT THAT CAME IN WITH THE DRAFT.
THE DRAFT. AND MYAKI, KYOTA, THEY WERE LIKE
AND MYAKI, KYOTA, THEY WERE LIKE BROTHERS TO US, YOU KNOW.
BROTHERS TO US, YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS
SO THAT'S ABOUT THE WAY IT WAS THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT.
THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT. AND THE NEXT DAY THEY WENT OUT
AND THE NEXT DAY THEY WENT OUT TO DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND
TO DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND OTHERS WERE ASSIGNED TO THE TOP
OTHERS WERE ASSIGNED TO THE TOP OF THE POLLY THERE AND IN CASE
OF THE POLLY THERE AND IN CASE THE JAPANESE AND WHERE THE GOOD
THE JAPANESE AND WHERE THE GOOD BEACHES WERE.
BEACHES WERE. THEY COULDN'T LAND ON WAIKIKI
THEY COULDN'T LAND ON WAIKIKI BECAUSE THE BEACHES, YOU KNOW
BECAUSE THE BEACHES, YOU KNOW HOW WIDE THE BEACH IS THERE, SO
HOW WIDE THE BEACH IS THERE, SO THEY WENT TO GET IN HONOLULU.
THEY WENT TO GET IN HONOLULU. I WOULD SIT ON THE PLUNGER THERE
I WOULD SIT ON THE PLUNGER THERE FOR ONE MONTH IN CASE THE
FOR ONE MONTH IN CASE THE JAPANESE LANDED, I WAS TO BLOW
JAPANESE LANDED, I WAS TO BLOW THE PASS.
THE PASS. AND THAT WOULD HAVE BLOCKED THEM
AND THAT WOULD HAVE BLOCKED THEM UP AND KEPT THEM OUT OF
UP AND KEPT THEM OUT OF HONOLULU.
HONOLULU. WHERE ALL OF THE MUNITION WAS
WHERE ALL OF THE MUNITION WAS STORED IN DIAMOND HEAD.
STORED IN DIAMOND HEAD. BUT THEN CAME BACK AND SO THAT
BUT THEN CAME BACK AND SO THAT WAS IT.
WAS IT. YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY.
YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY. >> WHEN DID YOU REALIZE WHAT
>> WHEN DID YOU REALIZE WHAT DEVASTATION HAD BEEN DONE TO THE
DEVASTATION HAD BEEN DONE TO THE NAVY FLEET AT PEARL HARBOR?
NAVY FLEET AT PEARL HARBOR? >> WELL, OF COURSE, WE SAW IT
>> WELL, OF COURSE, WE SAW IT ANY DAY.
ANY DAY. YOU KNOW, AS WE GO BY AND
YOU KNOW, AS WE GO BY AND FOUGHT, TO THE PILL BOXES, LIKE
FOUGHT, TO THE PILL BOXES, LIKE I SAID, THAT WAS OUR AREA.
I SAID, THAT WAS OUR AREA. WE WOULD GO BACK AND FORTH AND
WE WOULD GO BACK AND FORTH AND SOME OF THE SHIPS WERE STILL
SOME OF THE SHIPS WERE STILL BURNING AND SO FORTH.
BURNING AND SO FORTH. >> FOR DAYS AND DAYS.
>> FOR DAYS AND DAYS. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> DID YOU HAVE AN AWARENESS OF
>> DID YOU HAVE AN AWARENESS OF HOW MANY MEN WERE KILLED THERE?
HOW MANY MEN WERE KILLED THERE? >> NO.
>> NO. WE GOT THAT INFORMATION, YOU
WE GOT THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALL SEPARATE UNITS
KNOW, IT WAS ALL SEPARATE UNITS AND SO FORTH, YOU KNOW.
AND SO FORTH, YOU KNOW. THAT'S WHAT WE DID FOR SEVERAL
THAT'S WHAT WE DID FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND THEN WE, WE WERE
MONTHS AND THEN WE, WE WERE READY TO GO THE TO MUSEUM AND --
READY TO GO THE TO MUSEUM AND -- >> AND YOU SPENT THE REST OF THE
>> AND YOU SPENT THE REST OF THE WAR IN COMBAT ON THOSE ISLANDS
WAR IN COMBAT ON THOSE ISLANDS IN THE PACIFIC?
IN THE PACIFIC? >> AND THE COMBAT WAS OVER WITH
>> AND THE COMBAT WAS OVER WITH W IN THE CANAL BECAUSE THE ONLY
W IN THE CANAL BECAUSE THE ONLY THING AFTER THAT WAS THE BIG
THING AFTER THAT WAS THE BIG AIRPLANE RAIDS AND STUFF LIKE
AIRPLANE RAIDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THAT. I THINK JUNE 16, THEY HAD A
I THINK JUNE 16, THEY HAD A HUNDRED PLANES COME OVER THAT
HUNDRED PLANES COME OVER THAT DAY.
DAY. AND WE COUNTED FOR 6 OF THEM.
AND WE COUNTED FOR 6 OF THEM. >> THEY APPARENTLY WERE ON A
>> THEY APPARENTLY WERE ON A SUICIDE MISSION AND THEY FIGURED
SUICIDE MISSION AND THEY FIGURED THE OTHER FOUR JUST CRASHED IN
THE OTHER FOUR JUST CRASHED IN THE OCEAN AND THEY COULDN'T
THE OCEAN AND THEY COULDN'T COUNT FOR THEM.
COUNT FOR THEM. >> TELL ME ABOUT YOUR ENLISTMENT
>> TELL ME ABOUT YOUR ENLISTMENT IN THE ARMY BECAUSE THAT'S AN
IN THE ARMY BECAUSE THAT'S AN INTERESTING STORY.
INTERESTING STORY. >> I FIRST WENT INTO THE ARNLY
>> I FIRST WENT INTO THE ARNLY IN APRIL, 1936, WHEN I WAS 14
IN APRIL, 1936, WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD.
YEARS OLD. >> HOW DID YOU PULL THAT OFF?
>> HOW DID YOU PULL THAT OFF? >> WELL I JUST LEARNED ABOUT MY
>> WELL I JUST LEARNED ABOUT MY AGE AND HAD THEM SIGN MIER IS
AGE AND HAD THEM SIGN MIER IS FI
FI CERTIFICATE.
CERTIFICATE. I WAS BIG THEN, AS I AM NOW.
I WAS BIG THEN, AS I AM NOW. I NEVER TODAY GO THROUGH
I NEVER TODAY GO THROUGH TRAINING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
TRAINING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BECAUSE MY FATHER HAD BEEN A
BECAUSE MY FATHER HAD BEEN A RECRUIT SERGEANT FOR WORLD WAR
RECRUIT SERGEANT FOR WORLD WAR I.
I. AND I COULD DRILL A BATTALION AT
AND I COULD DRILL A BATTALION AT 14 YEARS OLD.
14 YEARS OLD. I COULD DRILL A RIFLE, TOSS A
I COULD DRILL A RIFLE, TOSS A RIFLE, SPIN A RIFLE, ANYTHING.
RIFLE, SPIN A RIFLE, ANYTHING. SO THAT WAS THE -- I USED TO GO
SO THAT WAS THE -- I USED TO GO UP ON MANEUVERS?
UP ON MANEUVERS? THE CATSKILLS AND STUFF LIKE
THE CATSKILLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
THAT. THAT'S IN THE 103rd INFANTRY.
THAT'S IN THE 103rd INFANTRY. >> MODERN WOMEN SEEKING INFANTRY
>> MODERN WOMEN SEEKING INFANTRY ROLES, INCLUDING HELEN WHO
ROLES, INCLUDING HELEN WHO SERVED IN WORLD WAR II.
SERVED IN WORLD WAR II. DECEMBER 7, 1941, WHAT DO YOU
DECEMBER 7, 1941, WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT THAT DAY?
REMEMBER ABOUT THAT DAY? >> MY BROTHER AND I JUST
>> MY BROTHER AND I JUST GRADUATED IN JUNE OF '41.
GRADUATED IN JUNE OF '41. THEN CAME PEARL HARBOR.
THEN CAME PEARL HARBOR. AND HE ENLISTED RIGHT AWAY AND
AND HE ENLISTED RIGHT AWAY AND IT WAS REPORTED FOR DUTY IN
IT WAS REPORTED FOR DUTY IN JANUARY.
JANUARY. BUT I WAS WORKING.
BUT I WAS WORKING. HE WAS WORKING TOO.
HE WAS WORKING TOO. I WAS AT THE TELEPHONE COMPANY
I WAS AT THE TELEPHONE COMPANY IN MONTCLAIR, NEW JERSEY.
IN MONTCLAIR, NEW JERSEY. HE WAS WORKING FROM 7:00 TO
HE WAS WORKING FROM 7:00 TO 4:00.
4:00. AND I HAD GOT BACK FROM LUNCH AT
AND I HAD GOT BACK FROM LUNCH AT 12:00, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT
12:00, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT BEFORE -- WELL, ABOUT 1:00, THE
BEFORE -- WELL, ABOUT 1:00, THE SWITCH BOARDS LIT UP.
SWITCH BOARDS LIT UP. WE COULDN'T TAKE THE CALLS,
WE COULDN'T TAKE THE CALLS, THERE WERE SO MANY OF THEM.
THERE WERE SO MANY OF THEM. AND IT WAS SUNDAY.
AND IT WAS SUNDAY. AND OUR CHIEF OPERATOR AND OUR
AND OUR CHIEF OPERATOR AND OUR SUPERVISOR HAD THE INTELLIGENCE
SUPERVISOR HAD THE INTELLIGENCE TO KNOW, THEY TODAY DO
TO KNOW, THEY TODAY DO SOMETHING.
SOMETHING. SO THEY GOT SOME EXTRA WORKERS
SO THEY GOT SOME EXTRA WORKERS TO COME IN AND BROUGHT -- AND
TO COME IN AND BROUGHT -- AND ONE OF THEM BROUGHT A RADIO.
ONE OF THEM BROUGHT A RADIO. AND WE HEARD WHAT WAS HAPPENING
AND WE HEARD WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND WE REALIZED.
AND WE REALIZED. AND OF COURSE WE WERE CRYING AND
AND OF COURSE WE WERE CRYING AND UPSET AND EVERYTHING.
UPSET AND EVERYTHING. AND I GOT OFF AT 4:00.
AND I GOT OFF AT 4:00. IN THE TROLLY CAR ON THE WAY
IN THE TROLLY CAR ON THE WAY HOME, THERE WERE PEOPLE CRYING
HOME, THERE WERE PEOPLE CRYING AND ONE MAN, HIS SON WAS IN
AND ONE MAN, HIS SON WAS IN HAWAII.
HAWAII. AT THE TIME.
AT THE TIME. HONOLULU.
HONOLULU. AND ANOTHER WOMAN, HER -- SOME
AND ANOTHER WOMAN, HER -- SOME RELATIVE OF HERS WAS A NURSE
RELATIVE OF HERS WAS A NURSE THERE.
THERE. AND I GUESS HICKHAM FIELD OR
AND I GUESS HICKHAM FIELD OR SOMETHING.
SOMETHING. AND IT WAS JUST TRAGIC.
AND IT WAS JUST TRAGIC. AND OF COURSE, WE HEARD THE NEWS
AND OF COURSE, WE HEARD THE NEWS AND THEN THE NEXT DAY, FDR,
AND THEN THE NEXT DAY, FDR, FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT, PRESIDENT,
FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT, PRESIDENT, ASKED CONGRESS TO DECLARE WAR
ASKED CONGRESS TO DECLARE WAR AGAINST JAPAN.
AGAINST JAPAN. AND YOU KNOW, WE REALIZED A
AND YOU KNOW, WE REALIZED A LITTLE BIT SORT OF -- I WAS 18.
LITTLE BIT SORT OF -- I WAS 18. AND WE REALIZED A LITTLE BIT
AND WE REALIZED A LITTLE BIT THAT WHAT WAR WAS COMING TO US,
THAT WHAT WAR WAS COMING TO US, WE REALLY -- PEOPLE WERE TALKING
WE REALLY -- PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING O ON OVER
ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING O ON OVER IN EUROPE BUT WE DIDN'T
IN EUROPE BUT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
UNDERSTAND. IN SCHOOL WE WERE TOLD TO HIDE
IN SCHOOL WE WERE TOLD TO HIDE UNDER THE DESK.
UNDER THE DESK. AND THEN AFTER THAT, I JOINED A
AND THEN AFTER THAT, I JOINED A GROUP CALLED WATCHERS AND WE GOT
GROUP CALLED WATCHERS AND WE GOT UP ON TOP OF THE POST OFFICE
UP ON TOP OF THE POST OFFICE BUILDING AND WE WOULD DOCUMENT
BUILDING AND WE WOULD DOCUMENT WHENEVER PLANES WOULD GO BY.
WHENEVER PLANES WOULD GO BY. WHAT TIME, WHERE THEY CAME FROM,
WHAT TIME, WHERE THEY CAME FROM, AND OF COURSE, WE STARTED SCRAP
AND OF COURSE, WE STARTED SCRAP DRIVES AND TAEFRG WE REALLY
DRIVES AND TAEFRG WE REALLY UNDERSTOOD A LITTLE BIT MORE
UNDERSTOOD A LITTLE BIT MORE WHAT WAR WAS.
WHAT WAR WAS. IT HADN'T REALLY TOUCHED US.
IT HADN'T REALLY TOUCHED US. >> YOU SAID THAT YOUR BROTHER
>> YOU SAID THAT YOUR BROTHER ENLISTED RIGHT AWAY.
ENLISTED RIGHT AWAY. >> HE ENLISTED RIGHT AWAY.
>> HE ENLISTED RIGHT AWAY. >> AND YOU ATTEMPTED TO ENLIST.
>> AND YOU ATTEMPTED TO ENLIST. >> WELL, IN JULY OF '42, THE
>> WELL, IN JULY OF '42, THE WAVES, NAVY WAVES, BECAME.
WAVES, NAVY WAVES, BECAME. AND HE ENCOURAGED ME TO GO DOWN
AND HE ENCOURAGED ME TO GO DOWN AND JOIN.
AND JOIN. SO I DID.
SO I DID. BUT THEY WOULDN'T ACCEPT ME
BUT THEY WOULDN'T ACCEPT ME BECAUSE I WASN'T 20.
BECAUSE I WASN'T 20. YOU HAD TO BE IN COLLEGE OR IF
YOU HAD TO BE IN COLLEGE OR IF YOU WANTED TO BE YOUNGER.
YOU WANTED TO BE YOUNGER. AND OTHERWISE YOU HAD TO BE 20.
AND OTHERWISE YOU HAD TO BE 20. SO ON MONDAY, MARCH 8, 1943, I
SO ON MONDAY, MARCH 8, 1943, I WAS SWORN IN.
WAS SWORN IN. >> AND THAT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY?
>> AND THAT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY? >> THAT'S MY BIRTHDAY.
>> THAT'S MY BIRTHDAY. I WAS 20 YEARS OLD THAT DAY.
I WAS 20 YEARS OLD THAT DAY. I WENT TO BOOT CAMP IN NEW YORK,
I WENT TO BOOT CAMP IN NEW YORK, IN HUNTER CAMP NEW YORK.
IN HUNTER CAMP NEW YORK. AND I SCORED TO HIGH IN THE
AND I SCORED TO HIGH IN THE MECHANICS, THEY SENT ME TO THE
MECHANICS, THEY SENT ME TO THE NAVAL AIR TECHNICAL TRAINING
NAVAL AIR TECHNICAL TRAINING CENTER IN NORMAN, OKLAHOMA.
CENTER IN NORMAN, OKLAHOMA. AND WHILE I WAS THERE, WE GOT
AND WHILE I WAS THERE, WE GOT THE TELEGRAM THAT MY BROTHER HAD
THE TELEGRAM THAT MY BROTHER HAD BEEN MISSING IN ACTION.
BEEN MISSING IN ACTION. AND I GRADUATED AND WENT ON HOME
AND I GRADUATED AND WENT ON HOME ON LEAVE.
ON LEAVE. WHILE I WAS HOME ON LEAVE, ON
WHILE I WAS HOME ON LEAVE, ON HIS 22nd BIRTHDAY, NOVEMBER 5th,
HIS 22nd BIRTHDAY, NOVEMBER 5th, WE GOT THE TELEGRAM.
WE GOT THE TELEGRAM. THEY DID TELL GRAMS BACK THEN.
THEY DID TELL GRAMS BACK THEN. NOW THEY SEND SOMEBODY.
NOW THEY SEND SOMEBODY. THAT HE WAS REALLY KILLED ON
THAT HE WAS REALLY KILLED ON THAT DAY.
THAT DAY. NOT MISSING IN ACTION.
NOT MISSING IN ACTION. >> AND HE WAS KILLED ON A NAVY
>> AND HE WAS KILLED ON A NAVY VESSEL?
VESSEL? >> HE WAS KILLED JUST BEFORE
>> HE WAS KILLED JUST BEFORE 9:00 SEPTEMBER 11thth, 1943 ON A
9:00 SEPTEMBER 11thth, 1943 ON A USS SAVANNAH AT SOLER FL O,
USS SAVANNAH AT SOLER FL O, ITALY AND BURIED OFF THE COAST
ITALY AND BURIED OFF THE COAST OF MULTA.
OF MULTA. NOW AFTER 70 YEARS, I'M GETTING
NOW AFTER 70 YEARS, I'M GETTING INFORMATION THAT HIS NAME HAS
INFORMATION THAT HIS NAME HAS BEEN ON A TABLET OF REMEMBRANCE
BEEN ON A TABLET OF REMEMBRANCE IN THE CAPITOL OF THE SICILY,
IN THE CAPITOL OF THE SICILY, ROME, AMERICAN CEMETERY.
ROME, AMERICAN CEMETERY. BECAUSE OF SOMEBODY READ MY
BECAUSE OF SOMEBODY READ MY POEM, BECAUSE I WRITE POEMS, AND
POEM, BECAUSE I WRITE POEMS, AND AN ARTICLE, HE GOT IN TOUCH WITH
AN ARTICLE, HE GOT IN TOUCH WITH ME.
ME. AND HE GOT IN TOUCH WITH THE
AND HE GOT IN TOUCH WITH THE AMERICAN MONUMENT ASSOCIATION,
AMERICAN MONUMENT ASSOCIATION, GOT ME THE INFORMATION AND
GOT ME THE INFORMATION AND SHOWED, AND I NOW HAVE A PICTURE
SHOWED, AND I NOW HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT TABLET.
OF THAT TABLET. AND A PICTURE OF THE CEMETERY.
AND A PICTURE OF THE CEMETERY. THAT HE -- HIS NAME HAS BEEN ON
THAT HE -- HIS NAME HAS BEEN ON THERE ALL THESE YEARS AND WE
THERE ALL THESE YEARS AND WE NEVER KNEW IT.
NEVER KNEW IT. >> TELL US YOUR BROTHER'S NAME.
>> TELL US YOUR BROTHER'S NAME. >> ARTHUR JUNIOR, INSTEAD OF
>> ARTHUR JUNIOR, INSTEAD OF ARTHUR OSCAR.
ARTHUR OSCAR. ARTHUR JUNIOR ANDERSON AND
ARTHUR JUNIOR ANDERSON AND ELECTRICIANS SECOND CLASS.
ELECTRICIANS SECOND CLASS. >> HOW LONG DID YOU STAY HOME ON
>> HOW LONG DID YOU STAY HOME ON LEAVE WHEN YOU GOT THAT NEWS?
LEAVE WHEN YOU GOT THAT NEWS? >> I GOT THEREABOUT NOVEMBER
>> I GOT THEREABOUT NOVEMBER 1st, AND I LEFT -- THEY WERE
1st, AND I LEFT -- THEY WERE GOING TO GET ME SPECIAL LEAVE.
GOING TO GET ME SPECIAL LEAVE. AND MY FATHER SAID NO.
AND MY FATHER SAID NO. SHE'S GOING TO HER STATION.
SHE'S GOING TO HER STATION. AND SO, I REPORTED, I THINK IT
AND SO, I REPORTED, I THINK IT WAS, AROUND NOVEMBER 7th OR 8th
WAS, AROUND NOVEMBER 7th OR 8th OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND I WAS GOING TO THE NAVAL AIR
AND I WAS GOING TO THE NAVAL AIR STATION AT OHKA LACKA.
STATION AT OHKA LACKA. >> IN FLORIDA?
>> IN FLORIDA? >> YES, IN FLORIDA.
>> YES, IN FLORIDA. >> WHAT DID YOU DO THERE?
>> WHAT DID YOU DO THERE? >> A MACHINIST THIRD CLASS BY
>> A MACHINIST THIRD CLASS BY THEN.
THEN. AND WE HAD TO WORK ON THE
AND WE HAD TO WORK ON THE ENGINES OF COMBAT PLANES AND
ENGINES OF COMBAT PLANES AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS. LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T DO MUCH.
LIKE I SAID, I DIDN'T DO MUCH. MY FATHER SAID WHEN I JOINED THE
MY FATHER SAID WHEN I JOINED THE NAVY THAT, SHE'S NOT A WAVE,
NAVY THAT, SHE'S NOT A WAVE, SHE'S A RIPPLE.
SHE'S A RIPPLE. AND SO I SAID, WELL, I WAS A
AND SO I SAID, WELL, I WAS A RIPPLE BUT NOW I'M STARTING TO
RIPPLE BUT NOW I'M STARTING TO MAKE WAVES.
MAKE WAVES. >> MARTIAL ROBERTS WAS 17 YEARS
>> MARTIAL ROBERTS WAS 17 YEARS OLD WHEN PEARL HARBOR WAS
OLD WHEN PEARL HARBOR WAS ATTACKED.
ATTACKED. WE SPOKE WITH HIM IN HIS PHOENIX
WE SPOKE WITH HIM IN HIS PHOENIX HOME.
HOME. PEARL HARBOR WAS ATTACKED ON
PEARL HARBOR WAS ATTACKED ON DECEMBER 7th, 1941.
DECEMBER 7th, 1941. DO YOU REMEMBER IT?
DO YOU REMEMBER IT? WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT IT?
WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT IT? >> I REMEMBER VERY VIVIDLY WHAT
>> I REMEMBER VERY VIVIDLY WHAT HAPPENED THAT PARTICULAR DAY.
HAPPENED THAT PARTICULAR DAY. ABOUT 10:00 OR SOMEWHERE AROUND
ABOUT 10:00 OR SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
THERE. MY MOTHER COME AND CALLED ME.
MY MOTHER COME AND CALLED ME. AND SHE SAID, COME AND LISTEN TO
AND SHE SAID, COME AND LISTEN TO THIS.
THIS. AND I GO IN.
AND I GO IN. AND THEY HAD AN OLD RADIO BACK
AND THEY HAD AN OLD RADIO BACK THAT TIME, AND SO I GO IN AND
THAT TIME, AND SO I GO IN AND LISTEN TO THE RADIO.
LISTEN TO THE RADIO. AND IT STARTS TELLING ABOUT THE
AND IT STARTS TELLING ABOUT THE JAPANESE COMING IN AND BOMBING
JAPANESE COMING IN AND BOMBING PEARL HARBOR AND WITH THEIR
PEARL HARBOR AND WITH THEIR SUBS.
SUBS. THEIR BABY SUNS COMING INTO THE
THEIR BABY SUNS COMING INTO THE HARBOR AND BOMBERS AND ALL HIT
HARBOR AND BOMBERS AND ALL HIT OUR BATTLE SHIPS AND OUR
OUR BATTLE SHIPS AND OUR CRUISERS.
CRUISERS. AND OF COURSE THEY SANK THE
AND OF COURSE THEY SANK THE ARIZONA AND A LOT OF THE CREW
ARIZONA AND A LOT OF THE CREW MEMBERS WENT DOWN WITH THE
MEMBERS WENT DOWN WITH THE ARIZONA WHEN IT WAS SUNK.
ARIZONA WHEN IT WAS SUNK. AND THEY DAMAGED OUR FLEET VERY
AND THEY DAMAGED OUR FLEET VERY BADLY THAT TIME.
BADLY THAT TIME. >> SO WHEN YOU HEARD THE NEWS OF
>> SO WHEN YOU HEARD THE NEWS OF THE ATTACK ON THE RADIO, HOW DID
THE ATTACK ON THE RADIO, HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? HOW DID YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
HOW DID YOU AND YOUR FAMILY REACT TO THAT?
REACT TO THAT? >> WE THOUGHT THAT WAS HORRIBLE.
>> WE THOUGHT THAT WAS HORRIBLE. AND OF COURSE, BECAUSE I HAD
AND OF COURSE, BECAUSE I HAD SOME VERY GOOD FRIENDS THAT WERE
SOME VERY GOOD FRIENDS THAT WERE JAPANESE, AND THEY WENT TO
JAPANESE, AND THEY WENT TO SCHOOL WITH ME AND I THOUGHT
SCHOOL WITH ME AND I THOUGHT THEY SHOULD PUT THEM IN
THEY SHOULD PUT THEM IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND THEY
CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND THEY WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THEY
WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THEY WERE JUST LIKE I OR ANYONE ELSE.
WERE JUST LIKE I OR ANYONE ELSE. AND IN CLASSES AND SO ON.
AND IN CLASSES AND SO ON. I COULD EVEN MENTION THE NAMES
I COULD EVEN MENTION THE NAMES OF SOME OF THEM.
OF SOME OF THEM. BUT VERY CLOSE FRIENDS.
BUT VERY CLOSE FRIENDS. >> HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN THAT
>> HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN THAT HAPPENED?
HAPPENED? >> I WAS 17.
>> I WAS 17. >> SO YOU WEREN'T OLD ENOUGH TO
>> SO YOU WEREN'T OLD ENOUGH TO GO INTO MILITARY YET?
GO INTO MILITARY YET? >> NO.
>> NO. BUT WHEN I GRADUATED, ABOUT FIVE
BUT WHEN I GRADUATED, ABOUT FIVE MONTHS LATER IN MAY, WHY, I
MONTHS LATER IN MAY, WHY, I VOLUNTEERED.
VOLUNTEERED. I WASN'T A DRAFTY.
I WASN'T A DRAFTY. I VOLUNTEERED TO GO INTO THE
I VOLUNTEERED TO GO INTO THE MILITARY.
MILITARY. AND A FRIEND OF MINE THAT I TOLD
AND A FRIEND OF MINE THAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT, BOB McWRIGHT, WE WENT
YOU ABOUT, BOB McWRIGHT, WE WENT OVER TO THE MARINE BASE
OVER TO THE MARINE BASE ENLISTMENT BASE IN BUCKEYE,
ENLISTMENT BASE IN BUCKEYE, ARIZONA.
ARIZONA. TO ENLIST.
TO ENLIST. THEY DIDN'T TAKE ME BECAUSE I
THEY DIDN'T TAKE ME BECAUSE I HAD ONE EYE THAT WASN'T 20/20,
HAD ONE EYE THAT WASN'T 20/20, SO I WENT INTO THE ARMY INSTEAD.
SO I WENT INTO THE ARMY INSTEAD. >> HE WITNESSED ONE OF THE
>> HE WITNESSED ONE OF THE JAPANESE SURRENDER ON THE
JAPANESE SURRENDER ON THE PORTLAND'S DECK.
PORTLAND'S DECK. >> THE FIRST BATTLE THAT WE
>> THE FIRST BATTLE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD, AND WE LOST A LOT
ACTUALLY HAD, AND WE LOST A LOT OF OUR PEOPLE.
OF OUR PEOPLE. I THINK WE WERE PROBABLY CLOSER,
I THINK WE WERE PROBABLY CLOSER, 10,000 OF OUR MEN THAT WENT
10,000 OF OUR MEN THAT WENT ASHORE AND WE BOMBARDED.
ASHORE AND WE BOMBARDED. WE THOUGHT WE HAD DONE A GOOD
WE THOUGHT WE HAD DONE A GOOD JOB.
JOB. BUT WE COME TO FIND THAT
BUT WE COME TO FIND THAT JAPANESE WERE IN CAVES AND THOSE
JAPANESE WERE IN CAVES AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND THEY WERE
KINDS OF THINGS AND THEY WERE PROTECTED TO A LARGE EXTENT.
PROTECTED TO A LARGE EXTENT. >> THE MEN LOST THERE WERE
>> THE MEN LOST THERE WERE PRIMARILY MARINES COMING OFF THE
PRIMARILY MARINES COMING OFF THE SHIPS.
SHIPS. >> YES, YES, YES.
>> YES, YES, YES. AND WE HAD TROOP CARRIERS OUT
AND WE HAD TROOP CARRIERS OUT THERE YEAH.
THERE YEAH. >> SO THE ISLAND BY ISLAND
>> SO THE ISLAND BY ISLAND COMBAT IS WHAT BROUGHT US TO
COMBAT IS WHAT BROUGHT US TO VICTORY.
VICTORY. >> YES.
>> YES. WE WENT IN TO THE PHILIPPINES.
WE WENT IN TO THE PHILIPPINES. AND WE STARTED BOMBARDING LADY
AND WE STARTED BOMBARDING LADY GOLF AND BATAN.
GOLF AND BATAN. AND I GUESS YOU KNOW THAT BATAN
AND I GUESS YOU KNOW THAT BATAN IS WHERE THEY HAD THOSE TROOP
IS WHERE THEY HAD THOSE TROOP MARCHS THAT OUR PRISONERS AND
MARCHS THAT OUR PRISONERS AND THEY HAD TAKEN ABOUT 80,000, I
THEY HAD TAKEN ABOUT 80,000, I GUESS, OF OUR PEOPLE THAT
GUESS, OF OUR PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT THE ARMY AND SO ON,
REPRESENT THE ARMY AND SO ON, OVER THERE.
OVER THERE. AND THEY HAD THEM ON THOSE DEATH
AND THEY HAD THEM ON THOSE DEATH MARCHS.
MARCHS. ON JULY 31, 45, INDIANAPOLIS HAD
ON JULY 31, 45, INDIANAPOLIS HAD DROPS OFF THE ATOMIC BOMBS AND
DROPS OFF THE ATOMIC BOMBS AND MATERIALS AND ALL PUT THEM
MATERIALS AND ALL PUT THEM TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. AND FINISHED PUTTING THEM
AND FINISHED PUTTING THEM TOGETHER.
TOGETHER. TO BE USED ON JAPAN OR HIROSHIMA
TO BE USED ON JAPAN OR HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI.
AND NAGASAKI. SO THE JAPANESE WOULDN'T HAVE
SO THE JAPANESE WOULDN'T HAVE SUR RENDERSURRENDERED.
SUR RENDERSURRENDERED. IT WAS JUST A DISGRACE FOR THEIR
IT WAS JUST A DISGRACE FOR THEIR ARMY PERSONNEL TO SURRENDER,
ARMY PERSONNEL TO SURRENDER, THAT IT WAS BAD FOR THE WHOLE
THAT IT WAS BAD FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY FOR THE REST OF THEIR
FAMILY FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE.
LIFE. >> YOU TALK ABOUT THE SURRENDER.
>> YOU TALK ABOUT THE SURRENDER. THE JAPANESE SURRENDER AND YOU
THE JAPANESE SURRENDER AND YOU ACTUALLY WERE VERY CLOSE TO A
ACTUALLY WERE VERY CLOSE TO A PART OF THAT.
PART OF THAT. THE MAIN SURRENDER OCCURRED IN
THE MAIN SURRENDER OCCURRED IN TOKYO BAY ON THE USA MISSOURI.
TOKYO BAY ON THE USA MISSOURI. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. WITH McARTHUR.
WITH McARTHUR. >> BUT THERE WAS ALSO A
>> BUT THERE WAS ALSO A SURRENDER ON YOUR SHIP, WAS
SURRENDER ON YOUR SHIP, WAS THERE NOT?
THERE NOT? >> YES.
>> YES. YOU NEVER HEAR ABOUT THAT,
YOU NEVER HEAR ABOUT THAT, HARDLY EVER.
HARDLY EVER. BUT ANYWAY, THEY GAVE US THE
BUT ANYWAY, THEY GAVE US THE PRIVILEGE, I GUESS YOU CALL IT A
PRIVILEGE, I GUESS YOU CALL IT A PRIVILEGE, OF TAKING THE
PRIVILEGE, OF TAKING THE JAPANESE AT TRUCK HARBOR, WHERE
JAPANESE AT TRUCK HARBOR, WHERE THEY REPAIRED ALL OF THEIR SHIPS
THEY REPAIRED ALL OF THEIR SHIPS AND THEIR SHIPS WOULD BE LAYING
AND THEIR SHIPS WOULD BE LAYING AT ANCHOR THERE.
AT ANCHOR THERE. GETTING TOWARD GO ON ANOTHER
GETTING TOWARD GO ON ANOTHER EXPEDITION.
EXPEDITION. AND WE HAD A SHIP PHOTOGRAPHER
AND WE HAD A SHIP PHOTOGRAPHER ABOARD MY SHIP.
ABOARD MY SHIP. AND WE TOOK PICTURES, OR HE TOOK
AND WE TOOK PICTURES, OR HE TOOK PICTURES, I SHOULD SAY, OF THAT
PICTURES, I SHOULD SAY, OF THAT GROUP COMING ABOARD.
GROUP COMING ABOARD. AND THE JAPANESE SURRENDER PARTY
AND THE JAPANESE SURRENDER PARTY COME ABOARD AND LITTLE GENERAL,
COME ABOARD AND LITTLE GENERAL, ADMIRAL, GOVERNOR AND STAFF AND
ADMIRAL, GOVERNOR AND STAFF AND THERE WAS SEVEN OF THEM AND THEY
THERE WAS SEVEN OF THEM AND THEY CAME ABOARD AND THE PICTURES
CAME ABOARD AND THE PICTURES SHOW THEM COMING ABOARD AND
SHOW THEM COMING ABOARD AND SHOWS THEM GOING OFF TO OUR
SHOWS THEM GOING OFF TO OUR OFFICER'S QUARTERS TO GO OVER
OFFICER'S QUARTERS TO GO OVER THE SURRENDER PAPERS.
THE SURRENDER PAPERS. I IMAGINE THE PAPERS HAD TO BE
I IMAGINE THE PAPERS HAD TO BE IN JAPANESE.
IN JAPANESE. BECAUSE I DOUBT THEY COULD READ
BECAUSE I DOUBT THEY COULD READ ENGLISH.
ENGLISH. AND IT SHOWS ANOTHER PICTURE OF
AND IT SHOWS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THEM STANDING AT ATTENTION AND
THEM STANDING AT ATTENTION AND SHOWS THEM MARINE STANDING AT
SHOWS THEM MARINE STANDING AT THE DOOR TO KEEP LAW AND ORDER,
THE DOOR TO KEEP LAW AND ORDER, KEEP EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL.
KEEP EVERYTHING UNDER CONTROL. AND THEY COME BACK INTO THE WALL
AND THEY COME BACK INTO THE WALL CENTER OF THEIR SHIP, WHERE OUR
CENTER OF THEIR SHIP, WHERE OUR HANGARS WERE FOR THE OBSERVATION
HANGARS WERE FOR THE OBSERVATION PLANES AND EVERYTHING.
PLANES AND EVERYTHING. THE WELL DECK WAS ONE DECK BELOW
THE WELL DECK WAS ONE DECK BELOW THE UPPER DECK AND THEY SET DOWN
THE UPPER DECK AND THEY SET DOWN AT THE TABLE AND IT IS A BLACK
AT THE TABLE AND IT IS A BLACK TABLE JUST LIKE THE ONE YOU SEE
TABLE JUST LIKE THE ONE YOU SEE ON THE MISSOURI UP IN TOKYO
ON THE MISSOURI UP IN TOKYO HARBOR AND THE SAME TIME,
HARBOR AND THE SAME TIME, SEPTEMBER 2nd, AND I BELIEVE,
SEPTEMBER 2nd, AND I BELIEVE, 1945, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS IN
1945, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.
2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. I'M NOT POSITIVE OF THAT.
I'M NOT POSITIVE OF THAT. BUT ANYWAY, THE WHOLE SHIP WAS
BUT ANYWAY, THE WHOLE SHIP WAS IN QUARTERS AND MY DIVISION
IN QUARTERS AND MY DIVISION STATION, DIVISION FOR SUPPLY
STATION, DIVISION FOR SUPPLY WITH QUARTERS ON THE WELL DECK.
WITH QUARTERS ON THE WELL DECK. AND RIGHT THERE WHERE THEY WERE
AND RIGHT THERE WHERE THEY WERE SIGNING THE PAPERS, WE COULD
SIGNING THE PAPERS, WE COULD LOOK OVER AND SEE THEM SIGN THE
LOOK OVER AND SEE THEM SIGN THE PAPERS.
PAPERS. >> ROBERT, GLASS AND STARK HAD
>> ROBERT, GLASS AND STARK HAD MORE TO TELL.
MORE TO TELL. THEIR FULL INTERVIEWS ARE AT AZ
THEIR FULL INTERVIEWS ARE AT AZ WEEK.COM.
WEEK.COM. OFFICIALS MARKED PEARL HARBOR'S
OFFICIALS MARKED PEARL HARBOR'S ANNIVERSARY BY BREAKING GROUND
ANNIVERSARY BY BREAKING GROUND FOR A MEMORIAL FOR WORLD WAR II
FOR A MEMORIAL FOR WORLD WAR II VETERANS.
VETERANS. JIM DRAKE DETAILED THE PROJECT
JIM DRAKE DETAILED THE PROJECT FOR US.
FOR US. TELL US WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT
TELL US WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE.
HERE. GUNS FOR USS MISSOURI AND USS
GUNS FOR USS MISSOURI AND USS ARIZONA.
ARIZONA. >> WHAT YOU HAVE BEHIND US ARE
>> WHAT YOU HAVE BEHIND US ARE THE TWO COMPLETELY UNRESTORED
THE TWO COMPLETELY UNRESTORED BARRELS FROM THE USS ARIZONA AND
BARRELS FROM THE USS ARIZONA AND BEHIND ME IS THE USS MISSOURI.
BEHIND ME IS THE USS MISSOURI. THE USS SECOND IS A PROPONENT
THE USS SECOND IS A PROPONENT AND THESE TWO MILITARY ARTIFACTS
AND THESE TWO MILITARY ARTIFACTS ARE GOING TO SERVE AS BOOK ENDS
ARE GOING TO SERVE AS BOOK ENDS TO THE WAR.
TO THE WAR. USS ARIZONA ON THE START OF THE
USS ARIZONA ON THE START OF THE WAR ON DECEMBER 7, 1941 AND
WAR ON DECEMBER 7, 1941 AND MISSOURI BARREL BEHIND ME WOULD
MISSOURI BARREL BEHIND ME WOULD BE THE CULMINATION BECAUSE THAT
BE THE CULMINATION BECAUSE THAT BARREL WAS ACTUALLY AT THE
BARREL WAS ACTUALLY AT THE SIGNING CEREMONY IN TOKYO BAY ON
SIGNING CEREMONY IN TOKYO BAY ON SEPTEMBER 2, 1945.
SEPTEMBER 2, 1945. >> JAPANESE SURRENDER.
>> JAPANESE SURRENDER. >> JAPANESE SURRENDER.
>> JAPANESE SURRENDER. >> ON THE DECK OF THE MISSOURI?
>> ON THE DECK OF THE MISSOURI? >> ON THE DECK OF THE MISSOURI.
>> ON THE DECK OF THE MISSOURI. >> WE'RE ON AN INDUSTRIAL AREA
>> WE'RE ON AN INDUSTRIAL AREA ON THE WEST SIDE OF PHOENIX
ON THE WEST SIDE OF PHOENIX WHERE THESE WEAPONS ARE STORED
WHERE THESE WEAPONS ARE STORED UNTIL THEY ARE RESTORED AND
UNTIL THEY ARE RESTORED AND TAKEN TO THE MEMORIAL.
TAKEN TO THE MEMORIAL. GROUND BREAKING WILL BE THIS
GROUND BREAKING WILL BE THIS WEEK?
WEEK? >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. WE ARE DOING GROUND BREAKING ON
WE ARE DOING GROUND BREAKING ON FRIDAY AT THE TAIL END OF THE
FRIDAY AT THE TAIL END OF THE PEARL HARBOR COMMEMORATION
PEARL HARBOR COMMEMORATION CEREMONIES.
CEREMONIES. IT WILL TAKE US THROUGH NEXT
IT WILL TAKE US THROUGH NEXT YEAR WITH CONSTRUCTION AND
YEAR WITH CONSTRUCTION AND IMPLEMENTATION.
IMPLEMENTATION. AND WELL DO THE DEDICATION OF
AND WELL DO THE DEDICATION OF THE MONUMENT NEXT DECEMBER 7,
THE MONUMENT NEXT DECEMBER 7, 2013.
2013. >> ON THE MALL OF THE CAPITOL.
>> ON THE MALL OF THE CAPITOL. >> ON THE MALL OF THE CAPITOL.
>> ON THE MALL OF THE CAPITOL. >> IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE
>> IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, THERE IS A SIGNAL MAST AND
AREA, THERE IS A SIGNAL MAST AND THESE TWO BARRELS WILL BE ALMOST
THESE TWO BARRELS WILL BE ALMOST LIKE THEY WOULD BE ORIENTED ON
LIKE THEY WOULD BE ORIENTED ON THE BATTLESHIP ITSELF.
THE BATTLESHIP ITSELF. THEY WILL BE BETWEEN THE SIGNAL
THEY WILL BE BETWEEN THE SIGNAL MAST AND ANCHOR.
MAST AND ANCHOR. THEY WILL BE SPACED ABOUT 400
THEY WILL BE SPACED ABOUT 400 INCHES APART.
INCHES APART. AND 400 TO 417 INCHES APART.
AND 400 TO 417 INCHES APART. AND THERE WILL BE A LIMESTONE
AND THERE WILL BE A LIMESTONE PATH OR MARKER BETWEEN THE TWO
PATH OR MARKER BETWEEN THE TWO BARRELS AT 417 INCHES.
BARRELS AT 417 INCHES. AND EACH INCH WILL SIGNIFY 1,000
AND EACH INCH WILL SIGNIFY 1,000 MILITARY LIVES THAT WERE LOST
MILITARY LIVES THAT WERE LOST BETWEEN DECEMBER 7, 1941 AND
BETWEEN DECEMBER 7, 1941 AND SEPTEMBER 2, 1945.
SEPTEMBER 2, 1945. >> FOR THE UNITED STATES.
>> FOR THE UNITED STATES. >> FOR THE UNITED STATES, YES.
>> FOR THE UNITED STATES, YES. >> AND ARIZONIANS KILLED IN
>> AND ARIZONIANS KILLED IN WORLD WAR II?
WORLD WAR II? >> THAT'S THE SECOND HALF OF THE
>> THAT'S THE SECOND HALF OF THE MONUMENT AND THERE WILL BE RIBS
MONUMENT AND THERE WILL BE RIBS THAT LOOK LIKE A SHIP.
THAT LOOK LIKE A SHIP. AND ON THOSE RIBS THERE ARE
AND ON THOSE RIBS THERE ARE GOING TO BE NAMES THAT LOOK VERY
GOING TO BE NAMES THAT LOOK VERY MUCH LIKE DOG TAGS OF THE, RIGHT
MUCH LIKE DOG TAGS OF THE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 2,042 INDIVIDUALS.
NOW WE HAVE 2,042 INDIVIDUALS. FROM ARIZONA.
FROM ARIZONA. WHO PERISHED IN THE WAR.
WHO PERISHED IN THE WAR. THAT NUMBER MAY MOVE UP OR DOWN
THAT NUMBER MAY MOVE UP OR DOWN A LITTLE BIT BUT RIGHT NOW WE
A LITTLE BIT BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR 2,042
HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR 2,042 INDIVIDUALS.
INDIVIDUALS. >> NOW YOU WERE TELLING ME
>> NOW YOU WERE TELLING ME BEFORE WE CAME ON CAMERA, THAT
BEFORE WE CAME ON CAMERA, THAT THE BARREL FROM THE ARIZONA WAS
THE BARREL FROM THE ARIZONA WAS NOT ACTUALLY ON THE ARIZONA WHEN
NOT ACTUALLY ON THE ARIZONA WHEN PEARL HARBOR WAS BOMBED ON
PEARL HARBOR WAS BOMBED ON DECEMBER 7, '41, IS THAT
DECEMBER 7, '41, IS THAT CORRECT?
CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS
THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE IT.
WE WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE IT. IT WAS SAVED.
IT WAS SAVED. THESE BARRELS ARE RIFLED ON THE
THESE BARRELS ARE RIFLED ON THE INSIDE AND RIVALING WOULD WEAR
INSIDE AND RIVALING WOULD WEAR OUT.
OUT. SO PERIODICALLY THEY WOULD TAKE
SO PERIODICALLY THEY WOULD TAKE THE RIFLES OFF THE SHIPS.
THE RIFLES OFF THE SHIPS. IT WAS TAKEN OFF THE ARIZONA AND
IT WAS TAKEN OFF THE ARIZONA AND IT WAS BEING RELINED AND THAT'S
IT WAS BEING RELINED AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS SAVED.
WHY IT WAS SAVED. SINCE IT DIDN'T GO DOWN WITH THE
SINCE IT DIDN'T GO DOWN WITH THE BOAT THEY WOUND UP PUTTING IT ON
BOAT THEY WOUND UP PUTTING IT ON THE USS NEVADA THAT PARTICULAR
THE USS NEVADA THAT PARTICULAR BARREL WAS AT UTAH BEACH ON THE
BARREL WAS AT UTAH BEACH ON THE D DAY INVASION.
D DAY INVASION. SO IT HAS A RICH MILITARY
SO IT HAS A RICH MILITARY HISTORY.
HISTORY. >> JUNE OF '44.
>> JUNE OF '44. >> JUNE OF '44.
>> JUNE OF '44. THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE
THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE WAR IN EUROPE.
WAR IN EUROPE. >> IT WAS INDEED.
>> IT WAS INDEED. >> TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
>> TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MEMORIAL AND HOW IT IS PAID
THE MEMORIAL AND HOW IT IS PAID FOR.
FOR. >> THERE WAS LEGISLATION.
>> THERE WAS LEGISLATION. WE SAW LEGISLATION LAST YEAR.
WE SAW LEGISLATION LAST YEAR. LEGISLATION ENACTED BY THE
LEGISLATION ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE THAT HAS A SECRETARY
LEGISLATURE THAT HAS A SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE AS MAIN
OF STATE'S OFFICE AS MAIN PROPONENT AND WE ARE AUTHORIZED
PROPONENT AND WE ARE AUTHORIZED TO SEEK DONATIONS, GIFT AND
TO SEEK DONATIONS, GIFT AND THINGS TO PAY FOR THIS.
THINGS TO PAY FOR THIS. IT IS THE INTENT OF THE
IT IS THE INTENT OF THE LEGISLATION THAT IT NOT BE DONE
LEGISLATION THAT IT NOT BE DONE WITH ANY PUBLIC FUNDING.
WITH ANY PUBLIC FUNDING. OR GENERAL FUND MONEYS.
OR GENERAL FUND MONEYS. AND TO THAT END, WE HAVE BEEN
AND TO THAT END, WE HAVE BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF JUST PHENOMENAL
THE RECIPIENT OF JUST PHENOMENAL DONATIVE WORKS.
DONATIVE WORKS. BURLINGTON NORTHERN SANTA FE.
BURLINGTON NORTHERN SANTA FE. THEY PULLED OUT THESE BARRELS
THEY PULLED OUT THESE BARRELS ALL THE WAY FROM THE EAST -- OR
ALL THE WAY FROM THE EAST -- OR EXCUSE ME, FROM THE MIDDLE OF
EXCUSE ME, FROM THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY ON FOR FREE.
THE COUNTRY ON FOR FREE. WE HAVE STEEL THAT HAS BEEN
WE HAVE STEEL THAT HAS BEEN DONATED.
DONATED. WE HAVE DESIGN WORK THAT HAS
WE HAVE DESIGN WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONATED.
BEEN DONATED. WE HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER THAT
WE HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER THAT THE SAME COMPANY SDB, WHO BUILT
THE SAME COMPANY SDB, WHO BUILT THE VETERAN'S HOME IN TUCSON.
THE VETERAN'S HOME IN TUCSON. THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS.
THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS. AND THEY DECIDED THAT THEY
AND THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO GET ON BOARD.
WANTED TO GET ON BOARD. SO I HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER.
SO I HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER. AND FINALLY ARIZONA DEPARTMENT
AND FINALLY ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN SERVICES HAS JUST
OF VETERAN SERVICES HAS JUST BEEN WONDERFUL WITH ACTUALLY
BEEN WONDERFUL WITH ACTUALLY HELPING US WRITE SOME CHECKS
HELPING US WRITE SOME CHECKS FROM ONE OF THEIR DONATION FUNDS
FROM ONE OF THEIR DONATION FUNDS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. >> WE WILL SHOW A LIST OF THE
>> WE WILL SHOW A LIST OF THE DONORS, ESPECIALLY COMPANIES
DONORS, ESPECIALLY COMPANIES THAT DONATED IN KIND, FOR THIS.
THAT DONATED IN KIND, FOR THIS. WE WILL LINK TO THE WEBSITE FOR
WE WILL LINK TO THE WEBSITE FOR THAT.
THAT. >> OKAY.
>> OKAY. >> THANK PUP THAT WOULD BE
>> THANK PUP THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
GREAT. >> THERE IS STILL WORK THAT
>> THERE IS STILL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO IF PEOPLE WANT TO DONATE TIME
SO IF PEOPLE WANT TO DONATE TIME OR MONEY, WE WILL HAPPILY
OR MONEY, WE WILL HAPPILY ACCEPT.
ACCEPT. >> MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE
>> MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE MEMORIAL IS ON OUR WEBSITE,
MEMORIAL IS ON OUR WEBSITE, AAZPM.COM.
AAZPM.COM. >>> THAT'S IT FOR ARIZONA WEEK.
>>> THAT'S IT FOR ARIZONA WEEK. WE DEDICATE THIS PROGRAM TO ALL
WE DEDICATE THIS PROGRAM TO ALL IN THIS GENERATION FOR THEY'RE
IN THIS GENERATION FOR THEY'RE SIS VISERVICE AND SACRIFICE.
SIS VISERVICE AND SACRIFICE. THANKS TO MY 91-YEAR-OLD FATHER,
THANKS TO MY 91-YEAR-OLD FATHER, FRANK, A PROUD WORLD WAR II
FRANK, A PROUD WORLD WAR II VETERAN WHO LED ME TO SOME OF
VETERAN WHO LED ME TO SOME OF THE INTERVIEWS FOR THIS PROGRAM.
THE INTERVIEWS FOR THIS PROGRAM. THANKS, DAD.
THANKS, DAD. >>> FOR "ARIZONA WEEK", I'M
>>> FOR "ARIZONA WEEK", I'M MICHAEL CHIHAU.
MICHAEL CHIHAU. >> ARIZONA WEEK IS MADE POSSIBLE
>> ARIZONA WEEK IS MADE POSSIBLE BY --
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED