Friday, September 7, 2012 - Evening Edition


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>> >>ERIK: TONIGHT ON KPBS EVENING EDITION, A RULING TODAY IN A CONTROVERSIAL LAST MINUTE
DECISION BY FORMER GOVERNOR ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER. IT INVOLVE AS KILLING IN SAN DIEGO.
AND A SEARCH FOR MISSING WOMEN IN TIJUANA TIJUANA CROSSES THE BORDER THANKS TO SOCIAL
MEDIA. >> >>PEGGY: AND WHILE HATE CRIMES ARE SAID
TO BE DOWN IN CALIFORNIA, SEVERAL HATE GROUPS CLAIM SAN DIEGO IS HOME, ESPECIALLY IN THE
MUSIC SCENE. MORE ON WHO THEY ARE IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.
PLUS WITH JUST TWO MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION, SAN DIEGO MAYORAL CANDIDATES SAY THEY'VE CHANGED
THEIR MIND ON SEVERAL KEY ISSUES. >> >>ERIK: AND THE CANDIDATES GOT GRILLED
TODAY. KPBS EVENING EDITION STARTS NOW.
KPBS EVENING EDITION IS MADE POSSIBLE BY JOAN AND IRWIN JACOBS, AND BY:
>> >>ERIK: GOOD EVENING, THANKS FOR JOINING US, I'M ERIK ANDERSON IN FOR DWANE BROWN.
A JUDGE SAYS THAT FORMER GOVERNOR ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER DID NOT BREAK THE LAW BY CUTTING THE SENTENCE
OF ESTEBAN NUЕZ, THE SON OF A POLITICAL ALLY IN PRISON FOR KILLING A MAN IN SAN DIEGO.
TODAY'S RULING CAME IN A LAWSUIT FILED BY SAN DIEGO DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND THE FAMILY
OF THE VICTIM LUIS SANTOS. NUЕZ WAS SENTENCED TO 16 YEARS FOR MANSLAUGHTER.
HOURS BEFORE LEAVING OFFICE, SCHWARZENEGGER CUT THE SENTENCE TO 7 YEARS.
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY SAID THAT WAS AGAINST THE LAW.
THE JUDGE DISAGREED. DISTRICT ATTORNEY BONNIE DUMANIS SAYS SHE
WILL APPEAL. ACTIVISTS ARE PLANNING TO MARCH IN TIJUANA
TOMORROW TRYING TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE DISAPPEARANCE OF YOUNG WOMEN IN BAJA CALIFORNIA. THE CASES
ARE GETTING PUBLICIZED ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THE UNIVERSITY AGED WOMEN ARE BEING KIDNAPPED
FOR THE SLAVE TRADE. TWO WOMEN BODIES WERE FOUND IN ENSENADA AND
A THIRD MISSING IN TIJUANA. POLICE SAY THE CASES ARE NOT RELATED.
TOMORROW IS THE ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF SAN DIEGO'S BIG BLACKOUT, DESPITE AN EIGHT MONTH
INQUIRY INTO WHAT CAUSED THE OUTAGE, KPBS REPORTER AMITA SHARMA SAYS A CENTRAL QUESTION
REMAINS UNANSWERED. >> >>AMITA: THE LIGHTS WENT OUT A LITTLE AFTER
3:00ハP.M. ON SEPTEMBERハ8, WHICH WAS ON ONE OF THE HOTTEST DAYS LAST YEAR. THE OUTAGE
HAPPENED AFTER A UTILITY WORK IN ARIZONA TRIPPED OFF AN ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION LINE.
THERE ARE SAFE GUARDS WITHIN THE SYSTEM THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ISOLATE THE PROBLEM
BUT THEY DIDN'T KICK IN. SO THE INITIAL KICK-OFF CASCADED THROUGH THE SYSTEM CAUSING A BLACKOUT,
PARTS OF ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE COUNTY WERE AFFECTED, ALL OF SAN DIEGO AND IMPERIAL COUNTIES
WERE AFFECTED AND PARTS OF BAJA CALIFORNIA WERE AFFECTED.
THE BLACKOUT ENDED SHUTTING DOWN THE LIGHTS FOR ABOUT THREE MILLION PEOPLE.
SCHOOLS SHUT DOWN IN SAN DIEGO, BUSINESSES CLOSED, GAS STATIONS CLOSED, TRAFFIC LIGHTS
STOPPED WORKING, CAUSING BOTTLE NECKS ON ROADS AND FREEWAYS, AND MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF RAW
SEWAGE FLOWED INTO RIVERS IN BOTH THE SAN DIEGO AND BAJA REGION.
PEOPLE HAD TO ROLL OUT THE EMERGENCY PLANS, THEY WERE EATING BY CANDLE LIGHT AFTER AN
EIGHT MONTH INQUIRY, FEDERAL REGULATORS BLAMED THE BLACKOUT ON POOR PLANNING, INADEQUATE
COMMUNICATION AND LACK OF AWARENESS BY UTILITIES OF WHAT WAS GOING ON ON THEIR PART OF THE
GRID. REGULATORS ALSO SAID THE BLACKOUT COULD HAVE
BEEN PREVENTED HAD THERE BEEN MORE LOCAL POWER GENERATION, BUT THEY DIDN'T SAYハ THEY NEVER
ANSWERED WHY THERE WASN'T MORE LOCAL POWER GENERATION.
MEAN WHILE SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC SAYS IT WILL NOT PAY THE CLAIMS FILED BY 7,000
OF ITS CUSTOMERS FOR 7ハMILLION DOLLARS IN LOSSES DUE TO THE BLACKOUT.
THE COMPANY SAYS IT DIDN'T CAUSE THE BLACKOUT, AND SO IT SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THOSE COSTS.
>> >>ERIK: KPBS REPORTER AMITA SHARMA. SINCE THE BLACKOUT, SAN DIEGO INVEST T 17ハMILLION
DOLLARS IN SEVEN NEW BACK UP GENERATORS FOR ITS SEWAGE PUMPS.
M SAN DIEGO NOW HAS STATE APPROVAL TO EXPAND A REGIONAL ENTERPRISE ZONE TO TRY TO CREATE
NEW JOBS. BUSINESSES GET TAX INCENTIVES BY MOVE NOTHING
TO ENTERPRISE ZONES. A SAN DIEGO REGIONAL ZONE COVERS A LARGE AREA
OF THE SOUTH BAY, GROWING TO INCLUDE PARTS OF KEARNY MESA, MIRA MESA AND RANCHO BERNARDO.
THE REGION'S HOUSING MARKET IS STARTING TO IMPROVE.
THAT WAS WELCOME NEWS TO THE REALTORS WHO GATHERED IN MISSION VALLEY. THE SIGNS OF RECOVERY
ARE MODEST BUT STEADY. HOME PRICES IN SAN DIEGO ARE NOWHERE NEAR
PRE RECESSION LEVELS. THE AVERAGE PRICE ROSE TO A FOUR YEAR HIGH
IN JULY. THOSE ARE ENCOURAGING NUMBERS FOR A LOW CHIEF
ECONOMIST FOR THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS.
>> >>: RIGHT NOW THE ECONOMY, THE MANUFACTURING IS SHAKY, NOW THAT THE HOUSING IS BEGINNING
TO RECOVER, CREATE JOBS. >> >>ERIK: THE FUNDAMENTALS THAT SUPPORT THE
HOUSING MARKET ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >> >>: JOBS ARE BEING CREATED, THE MORTGAGE
RATES ARE LOW, THEN YOU HAVE THE RENT INCREASING GENERALLY MEANS THAT SOME OF THE RENTERS WANT
TO PULL OUT A CALCULATOR AND SEE IF IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO BUY A HOME.
>> >>ERIK: WHILE THERE ARE HOMES ON THE MARKET HERE IN SAN DIEGO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE
NOT AS MANY HOMES AS THERE USED TO BE ON THE MARKET. AND ALL THOSE DISTRESSED PROPERTY,
THE FORECLOSURES NOT OUT THERE AS MUCH. >> >>: OVER HALF OF THE HOMES SOLD IN CALIFORNIA
RIGHT NOW IN THE SHORT SALE ARENA AND IN THE RESALE ARENA ARE MULTIPLE OFFERS WITH THREE,
FOUR, FIVEハ MANY MULTIPLE OFFERS. SO AGAIN YOU GET A VERY TIGHT INVENTORY, GREAT
LENDING ENVIRONMENT, ALL CASH DEMANDS. >> >>ERIK: LESLIE APPLE TN YOUNG SAYS THE
COMPETITION FOR HOMES IS SHRINKING INVENTORY OF SHORT SALES AND FORECLOSURE ARE WORKING
TOGETHER TO PUSH PRICES UP. BUT NOT EVERYTHING IS POSITIVE.
REALTORS ARE WORRIED THAT A SLUMPING JOB MARKET COULD HURTS HOUSING AND MORTGAGES ARE STILL
DIFFICULT TO GET. THAT COULD COMPLICATE A HOUSING RECOVERY.
CAPTIONS PROVIDED BY ECAPTIONS. >> >>ERIK: IT IS 60 DAYS TO ELECTION DAY,
AND THE RECENT SERIES OF MAYORAL DEBATES REVEAL THE CANDIDATES HAVE CHANGED THEIR MINDS ABOUT
SEVERAL ISSUES. PEGGY PICO HAS THE DETAILS.
>> >>PEGGY: SAN DIEGO MAYORAL CANDIDATE BOB FILNER AND CARL DEMAIO SEEM TO HAVE SOFTENED
THEIR ATTITUDE TOWARDS EACH OTHER AND EMBRACE NEW POSITIONS.
VOICE OF SAN DIEGO REPORTER LIAM DILLON HAS COVERED THE MAYOR'S RACE AND JOINS ME TO BREAK
DOWN THOSE CHANGES BY THE CANDIDATES. BOTH CANDIDATES SEEM TO BE BEHAVING SOMEWHAT
DIFFERENTLY TOWARDS THE EACH OTHER. WHAT HAVE YOU NOTICED?
>> >>LIAM DILLON: IT'S THAT THE IMAGE THEY'RE TRYING TO PRESENT TO VOTERS.
IT DID TAKE A STEP BACK. SAN DIEGO IS USED TO ELECTING SORT OF MODERATE
FOLKSY MARES, WHO ARE NOT NEARLY AS PARTISAN AS THESE GUYS.
THEY'RE TRYING TO TO BE MAYORS AND CREATE AN IMAGE THAT IS LIKE THE MAYORS IN THE MAS
PAST, AND SELL THAT THEY CAN BE THE MAYOR SAN DIEGO LIKES TO ELECT.
>> >>PEGGY: THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SPECIFIC CHANGES.
LET'S START WITH CARL DEMAIO, FOR INSTANCE ON EDUCATION.
TELL US ABOUT THAT. >> >>LIAM DILLON: HE USED TO SAY THAT THE
CITY THE TOO MANY PROBLEMS, TO DEAL WITH EDUCATION. THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO DOES NOT HAVE ANY DIRECT
CONTROL OVER THE CITY SCHOOL OR ANY SCHOOLS. IT'S A SEPARATELY RUN ORGANIZATION MANAGED
BY A SCHOOL BOARD. HE SAYS HE WANTS TO HAVE MORE INVOLVEMENT,
CHAMPIONING A CITY COUNCIL SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, PROMOTE SOME PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND IS
TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION AS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE UNDER HIS PURVIEW.
>> >>PEGGY: AND THERE'S A FEW OTHER THINGS TOO, SEWAGEハ
>> >>LIAM DILLON: RECYCLING, YES, THE TWO YEARS AGO.
THERE'S THIS MASSIVE PROJECT GO ON RIGHT NOW, IT USED TO BE [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S NOT DISCUSS
SOD MUCH ANYMORE. THE PROCESS BY WHICH WATER IS RECYCLED INTO
DRINKING WATER, CARL WAS OPPOSED TO THAT AT A VOTE TWO YEARS AGO AND SORT OF MODERATED
STEP BY STEP. AND NOW HE CALLS IN THIS ENVIRONMENTAL PLAN WHICH HE RELEASED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO,
A TRUSTED TECHNOLOGY. >> >>PEGGY: ABSOLUTELY, AND THE BORDER DEVELOPMENT
AND ALSO HE SWITCHED ON THAT A AND A WANTS TO BE MORE INVOLVED.
DOWNTOWN BUSINESS, TELL ME ABOUT THAT. >> >>LIAM DILLON: THIS IS THE BIGGEST THING
FOR ME THE CHANGING OF RHETORIC. I THINK THIS IS THE PLACE WE'VE SEEN HIM CHANGE
HIS RHETORIC THE MOST. HE'S BLAMED FOR THE TIME HE'S BEEN IN SAN
DIEGO, AND RECENTLY IN THE PRIMARY TWO GROUPS FOR SAN DIEGO'S FINANCIAL PROBLEMS, GOVERNMENT
LABOR UNIONS AND DOWNTOWN INSIDERS. SO HE NOW IS SORT OF COURTING SOME OF THE
DOWNTOWN BUSINESS LEADERS AND GROUPS HE TRADITIONALLY CRITICIZED TO HELP DONATE TO HIS CAMPAIGN.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN SOFTENING HIS RHETORIC TOWARDS THEM.
I MENTIONED THE PENSION ISSUES, HE'S RAILED AGAINST THAT EVER SINCE HE GOT HERE USED TO
SAY THAT FOLKS INVOLVED IN MAKING NOSE DECISIONS DIDN'T HAVE POLITICAL FUTURE, DIDN'T DESERVE
IT. TONY WAS A COUNCIL MEMBER DURING THE PENSION
NOW WHEN SHE WAS NAMED THE MAJORITY LEADER IN THE ASSEMBLY, HE NOW CONGRATULATED HER.
VERY DIFFERENT. >> >>PEGGY: LET'S TALK ABOUT BOB FILNER.
WHAT HAS BEEN HIS TOP SORT OF TURN AROUND? >> >>LIAM DILLON: HE, IN THE PRIMARY EMPHASIZES
OPPOSITION TO THREE BIG THREE, PROPOSITION B, PENSION INITIATIVE, 4 OR 1KS, THE FINANCING
PLAN, CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION AND ALSO THE TO REMODEL THE PLAZA DE PANAMA IN BALBOA
PARK. THEY WERE A FRAUD, A GIVE AWAY.
NOW HE SAYS WELL, I'M GOING TO IMPLEMENT THEM NOW.
THAT'S SORT OF DIFFERENT, SORT OF A TONE HE HASN'T TAKEN WHEN HE WAS BELLICOSE ABOUT THEM
IN THE PRIMARY. >> >>PEGGY: DO YOU THINK THIS IS A POLITICAL
PLOY TO GET ELECTED OR DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GENUINELY TRYING TO MOVE TOWARDS THE THE MIDDLE?
>> >>LIAM DILLON: I THINK YOUR GOING TO SEE IN EVERY ELECTION, CANDIDATES RUN IN EXTREMES
IN THE PRIMARY, AND CANDIDATES MOVE TO THE MIDDLE IN THE GENERAL.
THERE IS SORT OF THE AMOUNT OF SHIFTING GOING ON HERE SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD BE UNPRECEDENTED
IN TERMS OF WHAT THESE FOLKS ARE DOING. YOU DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME LOOKING AT THEIR
HISTORY AND BACKGROUNDS YOU'LL SEE THAT THE MOVE TO THE MIDDLE IS OUT OF CHARACTER FOR
WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST. SO IF YOU BELIEVE THAT HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF,
YOUR MORE LIKELY TO SEE SOME OF THESE GUYS ACT LIKE THEY DID IN THE PRIMARY.
>> >>PEGGY: TWO MORE QUESTIONS. TWENTY DEBATES ARE PLANNED BETWEEN LABOR DAY
AND ELECTION TIME. WHY SO MANY?
>> >>LIAM DILLON: I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT'S KIND OF OVER KILL Y.UNDERSTAND
IT FROM THE CANDIDATES PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE AN INTEREST GROUP SAYS HEY, COME TALK TO ME.
THEY DON'T WANT TO UPSET INTEREST GROUPS PARTICULARLY IN A VOTE LIKE THIS.
THEY HAVE TO SHOW UP. THAT DOES U ALLOW THESE GROUPS TO SEE EVERYBODY'S
POSITION BUT IT IS HARD ON THEM. >> >>PEGGY: SAYING YES TO EVERYBODY.
BRIEFLY BEFORE WE GO, ENDORSEMENTS? >> >>LIAM DILLON: CARL ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK
THAT JAN GOLDSMITH WAS BACKING HIM, AS SORT OF THE ONLY NEW ONE.
BASICALLY IS WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT, REPUBLICANS LINING UP FOR CARL, DEMOCRATS LINING UP FOR
BOB, I THINK THE TWO BIG OUTSTANDING ONES JERRY SANDERS HAS NOT ENDORSED AND ASSEMBLYMAN
NATHAN FLETCHER HASN'T ENDORSED. WE'LL SEE WHO THEY LINE UP WITH.
>> >>PEGGY: LIAM DILLON, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> >>ERIK: NOW THOSE MAYORAL CANDIDATES WEPT BACK TO SCHOOL TODAY AND AS KPBS METRO REPORTER
KATIE ORR SHOWS US, THEY GOT THEIR FEET HELD TO THE FIRE WITH SOME TOUGH QUESTIONING.
>> >>KATIE: TODAY'S EVENT HAD ALL THE EAR MARKS OF A CLASSICAL DEBATE.
THE DIG ENOUGH IED BACK DROP, AND THE ASSEMBLED MEDIA.
IT WAS SOMETHING NOTABLY DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS DEBATE.
>> >>: I'D LIKE YOU ALL TO THE 2012 SAN DIEGO MAYORAL DEBATES.
>> >>KATIE: IT WAS BEING RUN BY TEENAGERS AND THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.
FOR INSTANCE, HERE'S LA JOLLA COUNTRY DAY SENIOR ALEX GARCIA ASKING COUNCILMAN CARL
DEMAIO AND BOB FILNER ABOUT THE CITY'Sハ >> >>: HOW WOULD YOU PREVENT A REPEAT OF THE
SPENDING ABUSES AND POOR MANAGEMENT POLICYハ THE REASON THE CITY TOOK POOK BOOKING POWER
FROM THE KUN VENGSZ CENTER AWAY FROM THE BUREAU IN 2004.
>> >>KATIE: TODAY'S DEBATE LA JOLLA KUPT TREA DAY.
THEY DID RESEARCH, WORK WOULD JOURNALISTS AND CRAFTED QUESTIONS DESIGNED TO PUT SAN
DIEGO'S MAYORAL CANDIDATES ON THE SPOT. WE WERE THERE LAST WEEK WITH THEY WERE PLANNING
THEIR APPROACH. >> >>: WE'RE ALL READY, NOW ALL THAT'S MISSING
IS YOU. >> >>KATIE: PREPARATIONS FOR THE DEBATE BEGAN
LAST SPRING WHEN STUDENTS GOT THE COMMITMENT OF THE MAYORAL CAMPAIGNS.
WORK PICKED UP JUST DAYS AFTER THE BEGAN, BRAIN STORMED WITH HIS SENIORS ABOUT THE ISSUES.
>> >>: PENSION REFORM F.ABSOLUTELY. WHAT ELSE?
>> >>: LABOR UNIONS. >> >>: LABOR UNIONS.
>> >>KATIE: THE KIDS ENTHUSIASTICALLY OFFERED UP IDEAS FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION
TO OUTSOURCING CITY SERVICES. SENIOR JESSICA LEWIS WANTS TO HEAR A DISCUSSION
ABOUT A SUBJECT THAT PLAY AS MAJOR ROLE IN HER LIFE.
>> >>: I THINK I'D PERSONALLY MOST WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT EDUCATION, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW
THEY'RE LIMITED ON WHAT THEY CAN DO, I'M CURIOUS TO WHAT THEY SEE IN IT FUTURE FOR SAN DIEGO
SCHOOLS. >> >>: OUR CITY'S DEBT.
>> >>KATIE: ALEX WANTS TO FOCUS ON THE FUTURE AS WELL.
>> >>: I HOPE THEY'LL GIVE US A PLAN FOR NOT JUST A SHORT TERM, AND THEIR PROSPECTS, BUT
FOR SAN DIEGO LONG TERM, SINCE WE ARE YOUNG AND THINKING OF COMING BACK TO SAN DIEGO AFTER
COLLEGE OR STAY IN SAN DIEGO FOR COLLEGE. WE REALLY ARE INVESTED IN THE FUTURE OF SAN
DIEGO. WE PROBABLY WANT MORE OF A LONGER TERM FOCUS.
>> >>KATIE: U U MERE SAYS THE CANDIDATES SHOULD REMEMBER THAT SOME OF THE STUDENTS CREATING
THE QUESTIONS WILL ALSO BE CASTING THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.
>> >>: THIS YEAR I FEEL IT'S MY POLITICAL AWAKENING, IT'S MY FIRST YEAR I'LL BE ABLE
TO VOTE. I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING NATIONAL AND CONGRESSIONAL
ELECTIONS. I THINK IT'S IMPORT TONIGHT FOLLOW YOUR LOCAL
POLITICS, SO I HOPE TO GET A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.
>> >>: PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. >> >>KATIE: JONATHAN WANTS HIS STUDENTS TO
HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING TOO. HIS CLASSES HAVE HAD LOCAL COLLEGE PROFESSORS
AND POLITICAL PUNDITS AS GUEST SPEAKERS. >> >>: ONE OF THE THINGS I'M ALWAYS TRYING
TO PUSH WITH THE STUDENTS IS CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND FIND ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO NOT JUST
READ ABOUT IT, NOT JUST WATCH IT, BUT PARTICIPATE IN IT.
>> >>KATIE: SCHULMAN SAYS THESE KIDS ARE DETERMINED TO GET SOME REAL ANSWERS IS.
>> >>: ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AND THAT THE ADVANTAGE THE STUDENTS
HAVE IS THAT THE STUDENTS ARE NOT JOURNALISTS. THEY CAN HOLD THE CANDIDATE'S FEET TO THE
FIRE IN A WAY THAT JOURNALISTS CAN'T. JOURNALISTS NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT
RELATIONSHIP, AND KEEP ACCESS, OR YOU CAN'T DO YOUR JOB.
AND THE STUDENTS HERE THEY'VE GOT A ONE SHOT AT IT.
>> >>KATIE: THE STUDENTS TOOK THAT SHOT TODAY PEPPERING WITH FILNER AND DEMAIO. THE CANDIDATES
EACH OFFERED THEIR CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE, AND AT THE END THERE WAS A JOB
OFFER FROM FILNER. >> >>: THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU STUDENTS.
WHICHEVER CANDIDATE YOU LIKE, I'M SURE I CAN SPEAK FOR CARL, WE CAN OFFER YOU INTERNSHIPS
IN OUR CAMPAIGNS. >> >>ERIK: CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL KAMALA
HARRIS. >> >>PEGGY: FOR CAMP PENDLETON MARINES ACCUSED
OF BEATING A MAN IN LONG BEACH ON LABOR DAY COULD BE CHARGED WITH A HATE CRIME.
THERE'S ALSO THE RECENT KILLING SPREE AT A SIKH TEMPLE IN WISCONSIN.
HERE WITH DETAILS ON LOCAL HATE GROUPS AND THEIR MUSIC SCENE IS ROFORTER DAVE MAASS OF
SAN DIEGO CITY BEAT. DAVE, LET'S START WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S
RECENT REPORT THAT SAID THAT HATE CRIMES ARE DOWN IN CALIFORNIA.
IS THAT A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE? >> >>DAVE MAASS: NO.
IT'S ONLY ABOUT A 4%, WHICH STILL SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD, BUT IT REALLY IS WITHIN ONLY A FEW DOZEN.
IF YOU LOOK AT SAN DIEGO COUNTY, THE F. B.I.RECORDED SOMETHING LIKE 120, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAD
112. IT VARIES A LITTLE BIT.
>> >>PEGGY: THERE WERE SOME SPECIFICS AS FAR AS THIS REPORT SAYS.
THEY FOUND THE MOST COMMON TIP OF HATE CRIME IN THE STATE IS BASED ON RACE, ETHNICITY,
NATIONAL ORIGIN, AND HATE CRIMES AGAINST BLACKS THEY FOUND WERE ACCOUNTED FOR NEARLY A THIRD
OF THE TOTAL REPORTED. ANTI HISPANIC CRIMES WERE DOWN ABOUT 43%.
IS THERE ANY REASON YOU DISCOVERED FOR THAT? ARE THEY SAYING THERE'S ANY REASON FOR THAT?
>> >>DAVE MAASS: IT WAS A REALLY SURPRISING NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY'S COME TO ME WITH AN IDEA OF WHAT THE CHANGE IS.
IT COULD BE PEOPLE REPORTING IT LESS, IT COULD BE THAT THERE'S MORE ACCEPTANCE IN OUR SOCIETY.
REALLY, I DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD ANSWER TO THAT.
>> >>PEGGY: I WASN'T ABLE TO FIND ANY EITHER WITH THE REPORTS.
WE'LL IS TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THAT. YOWIVE DONE A LOT OF REPORTING ON HATE CRIME
GROUPS IN SAN DIEGO SPECIFICALLY, MUSIC GROUPS HERE.
TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS IN SAN DIEGO.
>> >>DAVE MAASS: AT THE END OF JULY, EL CAJON HOSTED ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT WHITE SUPREMACIST
CONCERTS IN THE NATION. IT WAS PUT ON ON BY THE HAMMER SKIN NATION,
CREW 38, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME GROUP, AND A RECORD LABEL CALLED ANTIPATHY RECORDS WHICH
CONTINUES TO SELL SOME OF THE SAME RECORDINGS BY WADE PAGE WHO WAS INVOLVED BY THE SIKH
SHOOTING. IT WAS A HUGE EVENT, WENT TOTALLY UNDER THE
RADAR. >> >>: POLICE GEU ABOUT IT.
THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT ON THE SLY. >> >>DAVE MAASS: YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY THE WHITE
SUPREMACISTS DON'T ANNOUNCE THIS UNTIL JUST BEFORE. THE ANTIDEFAMATION LEAGUE TEND TO
HAVE FAKE ACCOUNTS. SOMEBODY WAS TIPPED OFF RIGHT BEFORE THEY
ALERTED EL CAJON POLICE AND DID HAVE A PRESENCE OUTSIDE THE VFW HALL IN HELL KU HON.
>> >>PEGGY: WHAT ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER GROUPS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE OTHER GROUPS?
>> >>DAVE MAASS: THOSE ARE THE THREE, MAX RESIST, CHAOS 80, I THINK IS THE BAND, AND
WHITE KNUCKLE DRIVER, AS YOU SAID. MAX RESIST IS PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST PROMINENT
SKIN HEAD BANDS IN THE COUNTRY. THAT BAND WADE PAGE ACTUALLY DID SUBSTITUTE
IN FOR U OTHER BAND MEMBERS. >> >>PEGGY: THE THESE CONCERTS ARE PROTECTED
BY FREE SPEECH. IS THERE ANYTHING LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN DO?
I MEAN, ARE THEY INCITING VIOLENCE, CAN THEY GET THEM ON ANYTHING?
>> >>DAVE MAASS: I THINK IT'S JUST A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE.
I THINK THE POLICE TEND TO LET THEM DO THEIR THING AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T CROSS THAT LINE.
SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU'D SEE IN THE WEST BUREAU BAPTIST CHURCH.
MAYBE THEIR POLITICS STIR PEOPLE, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T CROSS INTO VIOLENCE, MAYBE NOT.
THEY DO MAKE SUREハ THESE THINGS DO EVENTUALLYハ I MEAN, PEOPLE DO EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOWハ
I MEAN, THINGS DO HAPPEN. I DON'T WANT TO PAINT A GROUP WITH ANYTHING,
BUT WADE PAGE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. >> >>PEGGY: DOES LAW ENFORCEMENT HERE IN SAN
DIEGO COUNTY HAVE A SPECIFIC DETAIL OR A SPECIFIC GROUP THAT SORT OF MONITORS THE GOING ONS
OF THESE GROUPS? >> >>DAVE MAASS: I BELIEVE THE F. B.I.DEFINITELY
IS THE GO TO AGENCY ON A LOT OF THIS STUFF. THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DOES TAKE A
LOOK, ESPECIALLY LGBT ISSUES. YOU DO SEE I THINK IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY THAT
WAS THE LARGEST NUMBER OF HATE RELATED CRIMES. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF SENSE SENSITIVITY
IN SAN DIEGO BECAUSE OF THAT. >> >>PEGGY: WHAT ADDITIONAL PENALTIES DO THEY
FACE BECAUSE IT IS A HATE CRIME IN ADDITION? >> >>DAVE MAASS: I COULDN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT,
BUT IT IS AN AGGRAVATING FACTOR. IF YOU HAVE A VIOLENCE CONVICTION, YOU CAN
AMPLIFY THE SENTENCE BASED ON A HATE CRIME. THEY ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO PROVE.
YOU HAVE TO ESSENTIALLY PROVE SOMEBODY'S MOTIVATION FOR A CRIME.
GETTING INSIDE SOMEBODY'S HEAD IS A DIFFICULT THING TO PROVE IN THE COURT OF LAW.
>> >>ERIK: SAN DIEGO'S LITTLE SAIGON IS CLUSTER OF MORE AN THAN A HUNDRED VIETNAMESE OWNED
BUSINESSES. IT SERVES A LOT OF LOCAL FAMILIES BUT SO FAR
NOT A COMMON DESTINATION FOR TREND SETTING CONSUMERS.
PEOPLE IN THE AREA SAY THE ISSUE IS AND SOLUTION IS LITERALLY STREET LEVEL.
>> >>: THE BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF OUR APARTMENT AT THE TIME IN 1990, A COUPLE YEARS LATER
MY MOM SAVED UP ENOUGH MONEY TO START THE BUSINESS A LITTLE TINY RESTAURANT.
SERVING VIETNAMESE FOOD. >> >>: THE LITTLE SAIGON DISTRICT, A RATHER
NEW INITIATIVE WHAT MAKES IT UNIQUE IS BETWEEN HIGHLAND AND EUCLID, THERE'S ABOUT 120 BUSINESSES
AND 90% OR SO ARE VIETNAMESE OWNED. EL CAJON BOULEVARD BETWEEN PARK AND 54TH IS
FOUR MILES. YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE IN THAT BUSINESS DISTRICT
THERE ARE A CLUSTER OF BUSINESSES AND ADDRESS THEIR NEEDS IN THERE, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE
PLACES THERE ARE PEOPLE EXISTING, AND THEY ARE MORE APT TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
>> >>: FIXING IT UP WILL SHOW YOU CARE AND BRING PEOPLE IN BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST PEOPLE
SEE. AT THE OLD LOCATION WE DID HAVE ONE TREE.
IT HURT OUR BUSINESS F.IT DIDN'T LOOK AS APPEALING TO THE OUTSIDE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT CREATED MORE
OF AN INDUSTRIAL LOOK. WHAT YOU WANT IS A FRIENDLY, INVITING AREA,
LIKE A PARK. >> >>: OUTSIDE HERE, WE HAVE A VERY SLOPED,
CRACKED SIDE WALK, SO IT MAKES IT HARD AS WE'RE WORKING TO GET A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY
TO DO OUT DOOR SEATING, MAKES IT HARD TO PLACE THOSE ITEMS OUT THERE AND REALLY TAKE OVER
AND EXPAND ON TO THE SIDE WALK. EL CAJON BOULEVARD REALLY IS IN CITY HIGHWAY.
>> >>PEGGY: BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOT ON A STOP LIGHT OFTEN HAVE TROUBLE WITH PEOPLE IF THEY'RE
ON THE OTHER SIDE THE STREET, HOW DO I GET OVER THERE.
>> >>: SAY SOMEONE NEEDS TO PARK ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY HAVE TO CROSS SEVERAL LANES OF FAST MOVING TRAFFIC, THERE'S NO SAFE CROSS WALKS THEY
MIGHT HAVE TO STOP IN THE MIDDLE, AND PEOPLE GET HIT BY CARS CROSSING THIS AREA.
IT IS NOT SAFE. IT'S THE STREET JUST WITH MORE AESTHETICALLY
WELCOMING, MORE PLEASANT TO WALK UP AND DOWN, THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE MORE LIKELY TO THINK
OF EL CAJON BOULEVARD WHEN THEY THINK OF GOING TO DO THEIR DRY CLEANING OR BUY THEIR FOOD
OR BUY THEIR MATTRESSES OR TAKE A YOGA CLASS. >> >>: THIS AREA'S VERY RICH IN CULTURE.
ALL IT REALLY NEEDS IS A LITTLE WORK ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND FUNDING TO MAKE IT WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
>> >>ERIK: THAT STORY WAS PRODUCED BY MEGAN BURKS AND BRIAN MIERS AT OUR PARTNER MEDIA
ARTS SAN DIEGO. YOU CAN LEARN MORE AT SPEAKCITYHEIGHTS.ORG.
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