Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - Evening Edition


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>> >>DWANE: HI, I'M DWANE BROWN. TONIGHT ON KPBS EVENING EDITION, IT WAS THE
LAST MEETING TODAY FOR SAN DIEGO'S CURRENT CITY COUNCIL.
WE'LL HAVE A LOOK AT THE CHANGES AHEAD. AND A POSSIBLE PROBLEM FOR ONE OF THE MAYOR
ELECT'S PROPOSALS. THE PENTAGON'S BAN ON WOMEN IN COMBAT GETS
A NEW LEGAL CHALLENGE TONIGHT. >> >>PEGGY: AND I'M PEGGY PICO.
ALSO AHEAD, 200 NATIONS GATHER FOR THE INTERNATIONAL CLIMATE CHANGE SUMMIT.
WE'LL TALK WITH BEST SELLING AUTHOR RICHARD LOUV ABOUT WHO'S MISSING FROM THE GLOBAL DEBATE,
AND WHY. PLUS THE CITY COUNCIL EXTENDS SAN DIEGO'S
HOTEL ROOM TAX FOR THE NEXT 40 YEARS, BUT NONE OF THE MONEY WILL GO TO THE CITY'S GENERAL
FUND. WE'LL EXPLAIN THE PROS AND THE CONS OF THE
TAX IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS. >> >>DWANE: SAN DIEGO ZOO GETS A NEW SOLAR
POWER PLANT. THEY SAY IT'S THE FUTURE OF SOLAR ENERGY.
KPBS EVENING EDITION STARTS NOW. SAN DIEGO CITY COUNCIL WILL LOOK A LOT DIFFERENT
WHEN IT HOLDS ITS NEXT MEETING MONDAY. THAT'S WHEN A NEW MAYOR AND TWO NEW CITY COUNCIL
MEMBERS TAKE THEIR SEATS AT CITY HALL. THE CURRENT COUNCIL MET FOR THE LAST TIME TODAY.
KPBS METRO REPORTER KATIE ORR JOINS US FROM THE NEWS ROOM WITH A LOOK AT WHAT WILL BE
CHANGING. WHO IS LEAVING CITY COUNCIL?
>> >>KATIE: COUNCILMAN CARL DEMAIO IS LEAVING THE COUNCIL.
HE GAVE UP HIS SEAT REPRESENTING DISTRICT 5 TO RUN FOR MAYOR.
HE LOST THAT ELECTION WHICH MEANS HE'LL NO LONGER HOLD AN OFFICE IN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
THOUGH RUMORS ARE ALREADY FLYING ABOUT WHERE HE MIGHT TURN UP NEXT AND OF COURSE MAYOR
JERRY SANDERS IS TERMING OUT
OF OFFICE
CANNOT GET A PENSION AND A FULL TIME SALARY AT THE SAME TIME.
UNLESS THEY'VE BEEN ELECTED TO OFFICE. SO FRY COULD BE HIRED A AS PROVISIONAL EMPLOYEE
AND WOULD WORK 90 DAY AS YEAR, OR SHE COULD WORK FOR FREE.
THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO ASK HER TO COME BACK AS A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE AS WHILE
RECEIVING HER PENSION. >> >>DWANE: THE ACLU OF NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
HAS FILE AD LAWSUIT AGAINST THE PENTAGON AGAINST ITS POLICY BANNING WOMEN FROM COMBAT.
BETH FORD ROTH HAS THIS UPDATE. >> >>BETH: THE ACLU FILED THE LAWSUIT.
THE WOMEN SAY DESPITE THEY FOUGHT ON THE FRONT LINES IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN, THEY'RE PROHIBITED
FROM GETTING THE SAME KIND OF PROMOTIONS AS THEIR MALE COUNTERPARTS.
>> >>: WOMEN HAVE BEEN KILLED ON THE BATTLE FIELD AND MANY MORE WOUNDED.
TWO OF THE PLAINTIFFS IN THIS LAWSUIT WERE WOUNDED DURING THE COURSE F OF THEIR SERVICE,
EARNING THE PERM HEART AND OTHER DESIGNATIONS. >> >>: IN RESPONSE TO THE LAWSUIT A SPOKES
WOMAN SAID HE REMAINS COMMITTED TO EXPANDING THE ROLE OF WOMEN IN THE MILITARY, AND INDEED
IN MAY, MORE THAN 14,000 MILITARY JOBS OPENED UP TO WOMEN THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUS Y LEALLY
CLOSED OFF TO THEM BECAUSE OF THEIR PROXIMITY TO COMBAT.
YET ACCORDING TO THE ACLU, THERE ARE STILL 238,000 POSITIONS FROM WHICH WOMEN ARE BANNED
FROM SERVING IN SOLELY BECAUSE OF THEIR SEX. >> >>: I LEFT THE MILITARY BECAUSE THE POLICY
LIMITS MY FUTURE IN THE MARINE CORPS. I WOULD BE ASSIGNED TO POSITIONS BASED ON
MY GENDER, RATHER THAN ON MY QUALIFICATIONS OR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
THIS DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR ME PERSONALLY OR PROFESSIONALLY AND DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR
THE MILITARY. >> >>BETH: THERE ARE FOUR DEVELOPED COUNTRIES
THAT ALLOW WOMEN IN COMBAT; ISRAEL, CANADA, NEW ZEALAND, AND AUSTRALIA.
>> >>DWANE: WHEN THE COST AT THE GAS PUMP SKY ROCKETED LAST MONTH, OIL INDUSTRY ANALYSTS
SAID REFINERY SHUT DOWNS WERE TO BLAME. SENATORS FROM CALIFORNIA, ORGAN AND WASHINGTON
SAY SOMETHING ISN'T ADDING UP. THEY SAY EMISSION REPORTS FROM THE REFINERIES
WHEN THEY WERE REPORTED BEING SHUT DOWN. THERE'S SOMETHING NEW AT THE SAN DIEGO ZOO,
FIVE ELECTRIC CAR CHARGING STATIONS IN THE PARKING LOT.
GIVING A LOOK INTO THE FUTURE OF HOW SOLAR ENERGY CAN BE USED AND STORED.
KPBS REPORTER TOM FUDGE HAS THE STORY. >> >>: MAYOR JERRY SANDERS PULLED UP TO A
CHARGING STATION IN AN ELECTRIC CAR TO PLAY HIS PART IN THE MEDIA EVENT.
BUT THIS WAS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST A FEW NEW CAR CHARGING STATIONS CONNECTED TO SOLAR CANOPIES.
IT WAS ABOUT THE CREATION OF A SMALL SOLAR POWER PLANT IN THE ZOO PARKING LOT.
>> >>: WHAT'S REALLY UNIQUEÊ >> >>: JIM AVERY OF SDG&E SAYS THE SOLAR PANELS
CAN PRODUCE ENOUGH TO POWER 18 HOMES. >> >>: WHAT REALLY MAKES IT UNIQUE IS WHAT
WE'VE ADDED ON TOP OF THAT, THAT'S BATTERY STORAGE.
>> >>: THE SOLAR POWER CAN BE STORED IN WHEN THE BATTERIES ARE FULL, THE EXCESS POWER GOES
TO CHARGE CARS, OR FEED THE ELECTRICAL GRID. >> >>: SO WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE POWER THAT'S
COMING IN ON THE SOLAR CANOPY, TAKE IT INTO THE GRID, PUT IT INTO CARS, INTO ENERGY STORAGE,
AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN TAKE THE ENERGY STORAGE BACK TO SUPPORT THE GRID.
>> >>: STORAGE OF SOLAR ENERGY IS A HUGE ISSUE BECAUSE THE SUN DOESN'T ALWAYS SHINE. THE
100 KILO WATT STORAGE SYSTEM MEANS WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN ITS POWER CAN BE USED TO CHARGE
CARS OR SOMEONE'S HOUSE THE BATTERIES ARE STATE OF THE ART USING ADVANCED LITHIUM POLYMER
TECHNOLOGY AND PART OF A SMALL BUT SOPHISTICATED ENERGY HUB.
BURNWASH IS WITH UC SAN DIEGO. HE SAYS THE UNIVERSITY IS ALSO PLANNING TO
BUILD A SOLAR ENERGY HUB JUST LIKE THE ONE THAT ZOO.
>> >>: THIS IS WHERE THE WORLD WILL BE WATCHING TO SEA SEE HOW WELL THIS SYSTEM OPERATES.
>> >>: IT COULD BE THE FUTURE OF ZERO EMISSION ENERGY, BUT IT'S ALSO THE ZOO, THE ARMADILLO,
IS NAMED ARMANDO. >> >>DWANE: PEDAL POWER WILL BE FEATURED IN
ESCONDIDO THIS SPRING, THE STARTING POINT FOR THE ENGINE TOUR OF THE CALIFORNIA BIKE
RACE. RACERS WILL TRAVEL SOUTH TO NORTH, 750 MILES
THROUGH DESERTS ALONG THE COAST, EX AND OVER MOUNTAINS TO THE FINISH LINE IN SANTA ROSA.
ESCONDIDO HOSTED THE RACE IN 2009. THE TOUR IS THE LARGEST BIKE RACE OF ITS KIND
IN THE U.S. SAN DIEGO VOTED TO EXTEND THE HOTEL TAX PROGRAM
FOR ANOTHER 40 YEARS. PEGGY PICO EXPLAINS HOW THE MONEY WILL BE USED.
>> >>PEGGY: FOR THE NEXT FOUR DECADES A 2% HOTEL ROOM TAX WILL BE ASSESSED AND COLLECTED
BY HOTELIERS IN SAN DIEGO. THE TAX EXPECTED TO YIELD ABOUT 30ÊMILLION
DOLLARS A YEAR WILL BE USED TO PROMOTE TOURISM. BUT NONE OF THAT REVENUE WILL GO TO THE CITY'S
GENERAL FUND. JOINING ME TO TALK ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS
OF THIS KIND OF TAX IS MY GUEST JORDAN BARRY, PROFESSOR OF TAX LAW AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
SAN DIEGO LAW SCHOOL. JORDAN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
THIS 2% ROOM TAX IS GOING TO BE ASSESSED BY SEVERAL O HO TELLS OVER OCCUPANCY OF 30 AND
IT WILL BE PAID FOR BY HOTEL GUESTS. UM, WHAT ARE THE CONCERNS ABOUT TAXING THESE
HOTELIERS ACTUALLY TAXING PEOPLE THIS WAY? >> >>JORDAN BARRY: THE KEY THING TO REMEMBER
HERE IS THAT THE TAX HAS SORT OF BEEN IN EXISTENCE, THE DIFFERENCE IS HOW THE MONEY IS GOING TO
BE MOVED. BEFORE IT WENT TO THE CITY, AND THE CITY WAS
LARGELY PUTTING THAT MONEY INTO PROMOTIONAL EFFORTS FOR TOURISM.
NOW IT'S GOING TO THE HOTELIERS TO DO BASICALLY A SIMILAR THING, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE IN HOTELIER
HANDS. >> >>PEGGY: I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS.
PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS ARE TAXING PEOPLE. IS THAT LEGAL?
>> >>JORDAN BARRY: RIGHT, SO, I MEAN, I WOULDN'T THINK OF IT AS THE HOTELIERS ARE TAXING PEOPLE.
I WOULD THINK THEY ARE GETTING PUB PUBLIC TAX MONEYS AND THEY ARE PRIVATE AGENTS.
SOME PEOPLE FIND THAT VERY CONCERNING. OTHERS THINK PERHAPS IT'S LESS OF A PROBLEM.
>> >>PEGGY: WHAT IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, PRICE, GOUGING, OR WHATEVER.
CAN THE CITY TAKE BACK CONTROL LEGALLY OF THIS TAX INITIATIVE?
>> >>JORDAN BARRY: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE EXACT DETAILS OF THAT.
I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S PARTICIPATE HEART FOR THE CITY TO GET THAT MONEY BACK.
MOST LIKELY IT WILL STAY IN THE HOTELIERS HANDS.
>> >>PEGGY: ARE THERE OTHER LAWS OUT THERE THAT WOULD PREVENT LIKE PRICE FIXING OVER
OVERSIGHT RR COMMIT Y AS THAT MANDATE WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS?
>> >>JORDAN BARRY: THERE ARE A LOT OF ANTI TRUST LAWS THAT PREVENT PRICE FIXING BY PRIVATE
ACTORS. THE HOTELS CAN'T GET TOGETHER AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE 300 DOLLARS A NIGHT
AND MAKE A DEAL. THAT'S A FEDERAL VIOLATION AS WELL AS A STATE
ISSUE. >> >>PEGGY: SO PERHAPS THERE'S SOME CHECKS
AND BALANCES. >> >>JORDAN BARRY: ABSOLUTELY.
>> >>PEGGY: OKAY. EARLIER ON MID DAY EDITION I JUST WANTED TO
SAY WE TALKED WITH JOE TURZI, THE HEAD OF SAN DIEGO'S CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU,
HE SAID: JORDAN, HE HAS A POINT. COMPETITION IS A GOOD THING TYPICALLY FOR
BUSINESS. ARE THERE OTHER POSITIVES TO THIS ROOM TAX?
>> >>JORDAN BARRY: WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU THINK THAT THE CITY
OR THE HOTELS ARE GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF PROMOTING TOURISM IN SAN DIEGO WITH THIS
MONEY. THERE'S A LITTLE LESS FLEXIBILITY, THEY CAN'T
MOVE THE MONEY AWAY FROM TOURISM, MAYBE YOU LIKE THAT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE TOURISM
IS SUPPORTED F.YOU THINK THE HOTELS ARE BETTER AT THIS, THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD THING.
>> >>PEGGY: LET'S TALK ABOUT PROP 26. BASICALLY, IT SAYS THAT YOUÊ IT HAS TO BE
VOTED ON BECAUSE IT'S A TAX. THE HOTELIERS SAYING IT'S NOT A TAX, BUT OPPONENTS
SAY IT IS. WHERE DOES IT FALL IN THAT AS FAR AS PROP
26? >> >>JORDAN BARRY: NO ONE HAS EVER TACK AN
CASE QUITE LIKE THIS TO COURT AND GOTTEN A RULING.
THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG OBSTACLES THAT MIGHT STAND IN THE WAY OF CONVENTION FINANCING AGREEMENT
IS IF THE COURT SAYS THIS IS A LEGAL ARRANGEMENT. >> >>PEGGY: I THINK SAN DIEGO IS HAVING A
JUDGE LOOK AT THIS CORRECT? >> >>JORDAN BARRY: THEY'VE STARTED THE PROCESS
TO GET THINGS MOVING, BUT IT HASN'T GONE TO COURT YET.
>> >>PEGGY: THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR INC. >> >>DWANE: ABOUT 2000 HOMELESS PEOPLE LIVE
IN SAN DIEGO'S NORTH COUNTY WHERE THERE'S NO CENTRALIZED WINTER SHELTER.
INSTEAD A NETWORK OF PROGRAMS HELP THOSE WHEN THE WEATHER GETS COLD.
ALISON ST. JOHN SAYS THE AGENCIES ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE HOMELESS FAMILIES.
>> >>ALISON: WHEN SANDRA SAMUELS SEPARATED FROM HER EX, SHE FOUND HER LIFE UNRAVELING.
SHE LOST HER JOB AND ABOUT A YEAR AGO, FOUND HERSELF WITHOUT A HOME.
>> >>: I NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE IN THIS SITUATION, BUT HERE I AM.
AND THE ECONOMY NOW IS REALLY BAD. >> >>ALISON: SAMUELS IS STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE
ALSO FOR HER 17 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER. >> >>: IF IT WAS JUST ME Y COULD HANDLE IT
A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR CHILD WITH YOU, YOU'RE WONDERING THAT AM I
BEING A GOOD MOTHER. >> >>ALISON: ANDREA'S IN HER FINAL YEAR AT
SCHOOL, BUT HASN'T TOLD ANY OF HER FRIENDS SHE'S STAYING IN A HOMELESS SHELTER.
>> >>: TO ME IT'S JUST REALLY HARD. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, SO I
JUST TRY TO KEEP IT TO MYSELF. IT'S JUST REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME BECAUSE
I JUSTÊ I'M SO USED TO HAVING MY OWN ROOM, AND WHAT I USED TO HAVE AND YOU KNOW ALWAYS
GOING OUT WHENEVER I WANTED TO WITH MY FRIENDS, NOT HAVING TO HAVE, LIKE A CURFEW TO GO BACK
TO A PLACE SO EARLY. BUT I JUST HAVE TO HANG IN THERE WITH MY MOM.
>> >>ALISON: THE WOMEN CAN SPEND TWO WEEKS STAYING IN THIS CHURCH HOME.
IT'S PART OF THE INTERFAITH SHELTER NETWORK. PASTOR JAMES JERPSETH SAYS THE CONGREGATION
BORROWED THE CUBICAL DIVIDERS FROM A NEARBY CHURCH.
>> >>: WE JUST POP THEM UP RK GET EVERYBODY SETTLED IN. IF YOUR NOT GOING TO DO THIS,
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HELP PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP, YOU'RE JUST A SOCIAL CLUB WITH A T ON
THE ROOF. >> >>ALISON: A MORE PERMANENT SHELTER FOR
FAMILIES IS GOING UP IN VISTA TO MEET THE GROWING NEED.
THIS CONSTRUCTION SITE IS THE SITE OF THE NEW NORTH COUNTY SHELTER FOR FAMILIES.
THE NUMBER OF FAMILIES THAT NEED SHELTER IN THE WINTER HAS BEEN INCREASING EVERY YEAR.
>> >>: IT'S GOING TO BE VERY COMFORTABLE AND OUR FAMILIES WILL HAVE A ROOM WITH A CEILING
AND A DOOR AS OPPOSED TO A CUBICLE WITH NO CEILING AND A CURTAIN.
SO THAT WILL ENCOURAGE THEM, HELP RAISE THEIR CELL SELF ESTEEM AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT
OF DIGNITY AS THEY GET THEIR LIVES TOGETHER. >> >>: FOR THE PAST FEW YEARSÊ THAT WILL
ALL CHANGE. >> >>: THIS WILL WE A CHILDREN'S PLAY GROUND,
THIS WILL BE WALLED IN RIGHT HERE, WITH A WALL IN FRONT SO IT WILL BE AN ENCLOSED COMPOUND
FOR PRIVACY FOR THE WOMEN AND SAFETY FOR THE CHILDREN.
>> >>ALISON: BETH BRAINERD WILL HELP RUN THE SHELTER WHEN IT OPENS.
>> >>: ONCE YOU COME INTO THE GATE AND YOU'RE BEHIND THE WALLS YOUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE, YOU
KNOW THEY'RE IN A SAFE COMPOUND, A SAFE CAMPUS, AND THAT LESS STRESS ALLOWS YOU TO PUT YOUR
FOCUS ON TAKING CLASSES, AND DOING YOUR RESUME AND LOOKING FOR A JOB AND TURNING YOUR LIFE
AROUND SO THAT YOUR CHILDREN CAN FEEL SAFE AND SECURE.
BECAUSE THE CHILDREN, IF THEY'RE WOUNDED WHEN THEY'RE YOUNG, THEY'RE GOING TO REPEAT THAT
CYCLE WHEN THEY'RE OLDER AND WE NEED TO STOP THAT.
>> >>ALISON: THIS SITE WON'T OPEN UNTIL JANUARY FIRST.
>> >>: WE DO NEED MORE FAMILY SHELTERS. >> >>ALISON: IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE
TO FIND PLACES FOR FAMILIES TO STAY UNTIL JANUARY SAYS JENNIFER WHO WORKS FOR THE COMMUNITY
RESOURCE CENTER IN ENCINITAS. EVEN IN THAT RELATIVELY AFFLUENT COMMUNITY
THEY GET THREE TO FIVE CALLS A DAY FOR PEOPLE LOOKING FOR SHELTER.
>> >>: WHEN IT GETS COLDER, ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS GET MORE PHONE CALLS, BUT THE RESOURCES WE
DON'T HAVE. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO GIVE THOSE FAMILIES.
HAVING OPERATION HOPE, HAVING THAT NOT OPEN UNTIL JANUARY IS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD ON
A BUNCH OF FAMILIES THIS YEAR. >> >>ALISON: FAMILIES CAN APPLY FOR HOTEL
VOUCHERS FROM NORTH COUNTY LIFELINE. THEY HAVE TWICE AS MUCH MONEY FOR VOUCHERS
THIS YEAR AS LAST, BUT ALREADY ALMOST 90 FAMILIES HAVE APPLYD FOR THEM AND DEMAND HAS OUT STRETCHED
SUPPLY SANDRA AND ANDREA SAMUELS FACE WEEKS MOVING FROM SHELTER TO SHELTER.
>> >>: OF COURSE YOU WORRY, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE STRONG AND GO ON, YOU'RE TRYING
TO TELL YOUR CHILD IT'S GOINGÊ THINGS ARE GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT, YOUR MAMA'S GONNA GET
A JOB. I'M PROUD OF HER BECAUSE DESPITE US MOVING
FROM PLACE TO PLACE, SHE'S STILL KEEPING UP HER GRADES.
AND SHE STILL IS GOING TO GRADUATE. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE HOMELESS, HONESTLY,
THEY DON'T WANT TO BE OUT HERE. I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, BUT I KNOW I'VE SPOKE
WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE REAL GOOD JOBS
AND THEY'VE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN HERE. SO IT CAN HAP TOON ANYBODY.
>> >>ALISON: ALISON ST. JOHN KPBS NEWS. >> >>: I'M RAY, ON THE NEXT NEWS HOUR, PRESIDENT
OBAMA MEETS MEXICO'S PRESIDENT ELECT AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
THAT'S TUESDAY ON THE PBS NEWS HOUR. >> >>DWANE: THE US AND 200 OTHER NATIONS ARE
GATHERING FOR THE INTERNATIONAL CLIMATE CHANGE SUMMIT IN KURT.
PEGGY PICO FINDS OUT WHO'S MISSING FROM THE GLOBAL DEBATE.
>> >>PEGGY: THE IMPACT OF EXTENDING THE KYOTO PROTOCOLS TO REDUCE GREEN HOUSE GAS EMISSIONS
IS A HOT TOPIC AT THE INTERNATIONAL CLIMATE CHANGE SUMMIT. IT'S NO SECRET THAT MUCH OF
WHAT'S DECIDED WILL FALL ON THE SHOULDERS OF GENERATIONS TO COME.
HOW MUCH DO YOUNG PEOPLE CARE ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE? HERE TO HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION
IS RICHARD LOUV, AUTHOR OF THE BEST SELLER THE NATURE PRINCIPLE, AND LAST CHILD IN THE
WOODS. THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
YOUR BOOKS FOCUS ON WHAT YOU HAVE CALLED YOUTH'S NATURE DEFICIT DISORDER.
>> >>RICHARD LOUV: IT'S NOT A KNOWN MEDICAL DIEING DIAGNOSIS, MAYBE IT SHOULD BE.
IT IS A WAY LAST CHILD IN THE WOODS CAME OUT, WE DIDN'T HAVE MUCH LANGUAGE TO TALK ABOUT
WHAT'S HAPPENING, THIS GENERATIONAL GAP BETWEEN CHILDREN AND NATURE, MORE THAN EVER IN HISTORY,
CHILDREN ARE DISCONNECTED FROM THE NATURAL WORLD.
>> >>PEGGY: WHAT'S CAUSING THAT? >> >>RICHARD LOUV: THEY DON'T GO OUTSIDE MUCH.
THEY'RE ON VIDEO GAMES, OR THEY'RE ON COMPUTERS A LOT, IT'S MORE AND MORE OF A VIRTUAL EXPERIENCE
THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH. THEIR PARENTS ARE AFRAID OF STRANGERS, EVEN
THOUGH OUR PROFESSION AND JOURNALISM HAS GREATLY MAGNIFIED THE REALITY OF STRANGER DANGER.
SO THERE'S GREAT FEAR IN THE WORLD. ONE OF THOSE FEARS IS ACTUALLY THE FEAR OF
NATURE. AND THIS STARTS REAL EARLY WHEN WE START TELLING
KIDS THAT THE END IS NEAR, THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT RECYCLING, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE JOY OF NATURE,
IT'S ABOUT HOW WE'RE DESTROYING NATURE. LET ME MAKE CLEAR.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD STOP TELLING THE BAD NEWS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TO NATURE.
BUT ECO PHOBIA IS A PHRASE THAT'S USED TO DESCRIBE CHILDREN WHO EARLY ON BEGIN TO HEAR
THAT MESSAGE THAT ASSOCIATING NATURE WITH DESTRUCTION.
THEY'LL CARRY WITH THAT WITH THEM THE REST OF THEIR LIVES INSTEAD OF ASSOCIATED THAT
WITH JOY, THEY'LL ASSOCIATE IT WITH FEAR LATER ON.
>> >>PEGGY: SOME WILL ARGUE BOY AND GIRL SCOUTS, STILL CAMPING, RECYCLING, AND UP CYCLING IS
A POSITIVE CONNECTION TO NATURE. DOESN'T THAT HELP?
>> >>RICHARD LOUV: YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH. BOY SCOUTS ARE LOSEING MEMBERSHIP PRETTY DRAMATICALLY.
JUST THE STATISTICS I WON'T GO INTO ON THIS DISCONNECTION ARE QUITE TREMBLING.
>> >>PEGGY: HOW IS THIS NATURE DEFICIT SO TO SPEAK LINKED TO CLIMATE CHANGE ACTIVISM
ON AMONG YOUTH AND ADULTS? >> >>RICHARD LOUV: IT'S BEEN ASKED RECENTLY
AND IN SEVERAL ARTICLES WHERE THE YOUNG PEOPLE, WHY AREN'T THEY IN THE STREETS ALMOST ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE. I THINK THERE'S TWO REASONS.
ONE IS THE ECO PHOBIA CHILDREN ARE BEING RAISED DISCONNECTED FROM NATURE AND IN FACT FEARING
IT. THE SECOND REASON I THINK IS BECAUSE OF ENVIRONMENTALISM
AND JOURNALISMÊ LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. I SAT WITH SOME STUDENTS AT NEPAL UNIVERSITY
RECENTLY, THESE WERE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY STUDENTS. ONE OF THEM SAID HE HAD NO SENSE OF CONNECTION
TO THE BIG ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS. HE WENT TO THE MEETINGS AND THEY'RE ALL OLD.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORLD, 67 IS THE AVERAGE AGE, 64 IS
THE NEW AGE. >> >>PEGGY: LET ME TALK ABOUTÊ LET ME ASK
YOU ABOUT THAT. PREVIOUS GENERATIONS LET'S SAY IN THE 50S
THOSE KIDS DIDN'T SEEM TO CARE MUCH ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT OR WEREN'T TOLD ABOUT IT A
WHOLE LOT. IN THE 60S THEY TURNED THAT AROUND.
COULDN'T THESE KIDS ALSO TURN AROUND LIKE THAT?
>> >>RICHARD LOUV: THEY CAN, BUT THERE'S SOME BIG THINGS THAT CAN'T BE DONE JUST WITH Y
R RECYCLING. SOMETHING LARGE IS HAPPENING.
THAT GROUP OF STUDENTS THAT I SAT WITH, ONE OF THEM WAS THE YOUNG WOMAN, VERY HIP YOUNG
WOMAN I KNOW THAT BECAUSE SHE HAD TATTOOS, SHE SAID ALL MY LIFEÊ I'M 20 YEARS OLDÊ
ALL MY LIFE I'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S TOO LATE WHEN IT COMES TO NATURE.
NOW SHE'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES STUDENT WHO'S HANGING ON TO HER IDEALISM BY A THREAD,
BUT IN TRUTH, THE MESSAGE THAT SHE HAS MAINLY RECEIVEDÊ YOU AND I HAD SOME DECADES TO HAVE
AN AWLT RN T VIEW OF THE FUTURE, BUT SHE'S SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE PRIMARILY OLDER AND YOUNGER
THAN HER WHO ARE SAYING IT'S TOO LATE. >> >>PEGGY: THERE IS THAT ARGUMENT CLIMATE
CHANGES TOO BIG, IT'S NATURAL, WHAT KIND OF IMPACT CAN WE REALLY MAKE, CAN IT IMPACT CAN
A KID MAKE AN IMPACT? >> >>RICHARD LOUV: I KEEP THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S
LIKE TO BE A 14 YEAR OLD AROUND DL ADULTS WHO SAY IT'S TOO LATE.
WE'VE GOT TO BREAK THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT. IN THE 60S IT WASN'T CLIMATE CHANGE.
IT WAS THE POLLUTION OF OUR RIVERS AND OUR RIVERS GOT CLEANER BECAUSE OF THAT COMMITMENT
AND EARTH DAY 1970. IT WAS THE THINGS THAT STILL GO ON.
WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE ON CLIMATE CHANGE TO BE WORRIED ABOUT THE EFFECT OF POLLUTION ON
OUR HEALTH. TO BE WORRIED ABOUT THIS DISCONNECTION FROM
NATURE THAT WE SEE IN OUR KIDS AND IN OURSELVES THAT IMPOVERISHES OUR EXPERIENCES AS HUMAN
BEINGS, I SEE THIS ISSUE OF CHILDREN AND NATURE BRING LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES TOGETHER.
THERE'S A CAMPAIGN HERE IN SAN DIEGO, CHILDREN AND NATURE COLLABORATIVE, AND THEY WANT TO
TAKE ACTION ON THAT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT
NOBODY WANTS TO BE IN THE LAST GENERATION WHERE IT'S CONSIDERED NORMAL AND EXPECTED
FOR KIDS TO JUST GO OUTSIDE AND EXPERIENCE NATURE.
>> >>PEGGY: WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET MORE OF THIS ON OUR WEBSITE KPBS.ORG.
BEST SELLING AUTHOR RICHARD LOUV. THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> >>DWANE: THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY RELYING ON THE FOOD BANK EACH MONTH
HAS ALMOST DOUBLED IN THE PAST 5 YEARS. WITH SO MANY FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS STRUGGLING
THIS HOLIDAY SEASON, THE NEED FOR FOOD DONATIONS IS GREAT, AND THAT'S WHERE THE STUFF THE BUS
FOOD DRIVE COMES IN. LAST YEAR SAN DIEGANS DONATED ABOUT 15,000 POUNDS OF FOOD DURING
THE ONE DAY DRIVE TO STOCK THE SHELVES OF SAN DIEGO'S PRIMARY FOOD BANK.
THAT'S ABOUT 7 TONS OF FOOD AND THE NEED CONTINUES TO GROW.
>> >>: WITH SUCH HIGH DEMAND FACING THE FOOD BANK THIS HOLIDAY SEASON, WE ARE GRATEFUL
TO MTS, NORTH COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT AND ALBERTSON'S FOR TEAMING UP.
>> >>DWANE: THEY'RE TEAMING UP FOR THE FIFTH ANNUAL STUFF THE BUS FOOD DRIVE ON SATURDAY.
>> >>: WITH THE HELP OF OUR PARTNERS AND THE COMMUNITY, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT STRUGGLING
FAMILIES CAN CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAYS WITHOUT WONDERING WHERE THEIR NEXT PEAL WILL COME
FROM. >> >>DWANE: THE FACES OF HUNGER MAY LOOK FAMILIAR;
A FATHER WHOSE SALARY JUST ISN'T ENOUGH TO COVER BILLS AND FOOD, A SENIOR SIT CITIZEN
ON A FIXED INCOME DECIDING TO PAY FOR MEDICATION OR RENT, OR A MILITARY WIFE LIKE MAR LAW BARLOW
TRYING TO STRETCH EVERY DOLLAR TO FEED HER FAMILY OF THREE.
>> >>: MANY OF US LIVE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE. THEY THINK WE GET PROVIDED EVERYTHING.
>> >>DWANE: ABOUT 13,000 LOW INCOME MILITARY FAMILIES IN THE COUNTY RECEIVE ASSISTANCE
FROM THE FOOD BANK. >> >>: ORGANIZATIONS AND FUNCTIONS LIKE THIS
HELP US. IT'S NOT CHARITY, IT'S A HANDOUT, IT'S NOT
A HANDOUT. >> >>DWANE: SAN DIEGO FOOD BANK FEED MORE
THAN 350,000 PEEP AL MONTH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
TRANSIT OPERATORS WILL BE COLLECTING FOOD TO STUFF THE BUS, AND ALBERTSON'S WILL BE
SELLING PRE PACKAGED NON PERISHABLE FOOD THIS WEEK TO DONATE TO THE FOOD BANK.
>> >>: PLEASE VISIT ONE OF 15 PARTICIPATING ALBERTSON'S LOCATIONS THIS SATURDAY DECEMBERÊ1
WITH YOUR SUPPORT WE'LL WIN THE BATTLE AGAINST HUNGER.
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