Giant Carp form the Extremes - Part 2 - Rainbow Lake

Uploaded by sbstacticalbaits on 13.03.2012

You won't believe this, I am playing with two rods at the same time.
Yes, 36.75 kg.
Hello, Everybody, A new day and I would like to introduce my partner László Pámer.
He is everybody's friend and we are on this tour together.
We started the day with two catches, I would like to tell you about the bigger one.
I went up to the cafeteria with my friend Péter Takács, our cameraman. When we got back,
Laci had just returned by boat with a beautiful long wild Carp.
This has been our third carp over 20 kg during this tour.
I'll hold it.
Yes, I've got it.
That's it! Come on, come with us.
This is how it looks, Beautiful, it is beautiful.
Beautiful, long, scaly. Very nice!
Can you see? It is full of breaks. We will fish these breaks and curbs.
It is very difficult to figure out which break is the right one, the one to fish.
There are many breaks, there could be 30-40 in front of us, but the fish might only use five.
Now we are coming to the one which has already given us three carp over 20 kg. , we can say that this break works.
We use the radar in almost every case. We are very quiet, handling it with care so as not to disturb the fish.
It is important to use the radar so that we can put the bait in the best place.
It is worth using, because the secret is to put bait in the perfect place.
Look, the water is 2m and 40 cm deep. We are slowly drifting back.
You will see, it will come up to 1.10 m, and I will find the top of that hump with this stick.
2.1 m, 2 m, it is coming up, can you see?
One-seven, one-six, one-five, and here it is.
From here it is breaks down again. We will catch fish on this plateau.
OK, it is on the top. I'll take the stick out.
Now this is interesting, as you can see the line break, If we pulled it straight, we wouldn't be able to go fishing here
but as it seems to be one of the best places, we will force it.
We place a hook on these sticks and we put the line through them,
this way we can break the line.
The reason why we break it above the water is that there are many obstructions under the water
and we are trying to avoid the obstructions.
Only the last 5-10 m of the line is under the water. It can jam here too and sometimes cause problems,
but we can solve the problem as we go along.
There are many trees, twigs and branches in the lake. It was the first, the next is coming soon.
The water is shallower; therefore we can stick the pole here, and put the line through it again.
It might seem to be a bit funny to the layman that most of the line goes through the air rather than in the water, but this guarantees the catch.
This buoy has already given us three fish over 20 kg, so, there is nothing to talk about. Soon it won't be that funny. We've got it now.
The line is broken in two points. The next station is the shore, on the stand.
Then maybe the next 20+ is coming, but we have achieved great results with these fish.
I don't think these three fish above 20 kg came accidentally; therefore I would like to ask Laci
to show us his feeding tactics, end tackles and the baits he used.
Laci! Let's start with feeding. I immediately recognized the ground feeding
has huge seeds in it. Please, tell us some thing about it.
My opinion might differ from others', but I am convinced that
if we want to catch big fish, we have to use really big baits.
For base feeding you also have to use big baits.
In the case of base feeding, a combination of big sized seeds has to be used.
In my seed-mix you can find tiger nuts of 20-25 mm, but the most remarkable ones are the large beans.
The size of the beans is over 35 mm.
There are still mega-corn (25 mm) or peanut in it.
that we don't see very often at home either. These become 20-25 mm in size after swelling.
In the mix you can also find hemp - as small seed - which helps with digestion.
Laci, it is a delicate question for many people, who don't know whether it has to be fermented,
how long it has to be cooked, should we let it stand after cooking or do we have to use it for feeding immediately?
What works the best for you?
Let me talk about what encouraged me to prepare the seed-mix.
I have my own lake, where I saw many anglers using fermented or slightly cooked corn.
It is known that the carp and other fish digest these products over a long period of time. This means, they need more time to digest them.
I don't say you can't catch fish with them in the first moments or hours or days,
but after that fish will be filled up with this hardly digestible food, and that can destroy other anglers' catches.
Then I had the idea, besides going fishing and catching big fish,
of making a mix which works well in places like this.
When making the mix, I pre-soak these seeds for 24 hours.
This way we can cook them easier.
The seeds will be saturated with water. After that we put them into a steamer or kettle or any kind of pot, depending on the volume you want to achieve,
then it has to be cooked for 3-4 or 5 hours on a slow heat.
After that I usually cover the pot to keep the seeds warm,
and then I steam them for another 24 hours.
Yes, it is steamed in this pot. With this method we can achieve a tiger nut, which is hard to digest for fish,
That will be softer, and then the fish can easily consume and digest it.
Oh, it pulled me a bit.
Yes, we are good.
18.50 kg. Oh Oh
This is also beautiful. It weighs more that 18 kg, a mirror carp, from the same buoy. It is unbelievable.
Yes, good. take it slowly. It was not very easy.
We cleared the preparation of large seeds, but how do you use them? How do you feed to the buoy?
On the spot, where I would like to angle, just like here,
first I map the place that I think would work well with radar, then I mark it with a stick.
After placing the buoy, I feed the surrounding area,
with about 0.5 -- 0.75 kg of feed. The quantity depends on the position of the buoy, whether it is among the islands or in the open water.
In the open water I usually feed a line which is about 10-15 m long.
If we are among the islands, I use a feed line in a V-shape from the edge of the two islands, with little spreading.
I place my tackle with the boilie on top of it, and I also usually spread a handful of boilies.
Perfect. I think we have answered all questions regarding feeding.
Let's go further and talk about the end tackle. It is often said that the last 30 cm is the most important.
Please, show us the end tackle you used when catching these fish.
First I would like to mention, that we angle with braid on this lake. We don't use this
because we have to exert force, but because there is no stretching and therefore will detect the bite.
Its advantage is that the braided mainline immediately indicates the catch,
but it cuts into the wood, it can get stuck. The fish could slip the line,
therefore we put a shockleader line of 15-20 m on the end of the braid.
We usually use a .6 or .7mm monofilament shockleader line with the aim that it will not cut into the wood. It slides easily on the wood.
It is also more flexible. If the fish is in an obstruction, it can't shake off and tear up the line with its head.
Yes, because of the stretching of the line.
It is worth putting a lead core on the end of the monofilament line. It is important because large fish are very careful.
When the line touches the body of the fish or their side, they can be frightened.
I cheat a little bit, because I saw this method used by Steve Briggs three years ago.
I was at spot 14 and saw him catching three carp over 20 kg in moments on spot 18.
He helped me a lot in how to fool fish.
When using lead core line you should know that many, wrongly, use 40-50 cm line.
40-50 cm is the same as if we didn't use anything, because these large fish are usually 1-1.20 m long.
It needs to be much longer, at least 1.20 -- 1.50 m long has to be used,
because it lies on the lake bed, and we think that maybe the fish doesn't get hurt this way.
A weight goes on the end of the line. It can be neutral which doesn't pollute the lake.
This fixed weight can be made of stone or gravel, too.
If we do it, we will get a tackle with the lead fixed with a small rubber cup.
It's role is that if it gets caught in an obstruction, the lead gets stuck, and as the fish starts flailing,
it pulls the rubber down, and the lead will be lost.
In this regard we have the following situation, the fish has only the hook in its mouth, the lead is lost.
We need this very much on waters with obstructions,
but I think this method can be applied in other local waters full of reeds and stalks.
The fish farms or even the fish owners will be pleased because the fish's mouth won't be shredded by the hook loaded with lead.
We put the hook on this quick change swivel, and pull an anti tangle sleeve on it.
Now our tackle is finished, it can be put down.
It is a great success if we can catch the fish and land it in the net,
and take the hook carefully out of the mouth. The pre-prepared end tackle can
be replaced again. This way you don't have to go back
after half an hour to hit the water, that can chase the fish away from the area.
The fish will go back after the noise caused by the catching action, because you have fed that place.
What is the most important thing about the end tackle?
The most important thing is the cheapest part, the hook.
The hook is the cheapest, still we save on that.
We try to catch about 4-5 fish with it, and you get only one or two.
then we blame the hook for not having catches, or it is not effective enough, or it has some problem.
But yes, we always have to change this cheapest part of the end tackle, if it is not sharp enough.
We can check its sharpness if we stick it into our nail.
And like now, it gets stuck, which means, the hook will be effective.
It is perfect for catching fish, but if it slides on it, you have to throw it away -- don't save money on that.
The most important thing is the cheapest one. You don't have to save money, you have to throw it away if it doesn't work well.
My God, two rods at the same time is tiring.
Hold it - Hold it, move backwards...
I'll give you the one which is at the obstruction. Good, it will be good.
It is like a fairy tale, I can't believe it.
Maybe, if we are lucky, both of them can be reeled in without losing them.
If I have the feeling that it is becoming stuck, I immediately go there by boat.
Where is yours? I am half-way with mine.
It is a rare moment in every aspect. We are tiring from the shore, with two rods, at Rainbow Lake. Incredible time!
It has gone correctly.
Wow, that one is good, too!
I've got it.
Come here, Pete!
Wow, it is 18.5 kg.
Well, it is about 23. It is 23.2 kg.
Look at this. Two fish at the same time. You rarely see something like this.
Look at this.
A kiss for him.
There are two more very important things about the end tackle: one is the type of the hooklink, the other is the size and type of the hook.
And because I like angling in branchy, obstructive areas,
I angle with hooks sized 2, and weight of 300 g
With such a big weight so that it will pull the hook deeper into the fish's mouth.
If the fish is in the obstructive area, we have more chance to get it out.
Generally, 6-7 times out of 10 we can catch the fish,
and bigger hooks are great help in that.
In connection with the hooklink I only have one criteria, it should be very soft.
So, if I catch it, it should be able to move from side to side even without the weight.
And, if needed, I can balance it with putty in 2-3 places, so that it wouldn't bother the fish.
My expectation is that this braid has a tensile strength of at least 15 kg,
because we have to fight with the fish in the obstructions.
It means a hooklink of at least 30 lb.
Yes, this hooklink is about 30 lb.
There is still one more important , for me almost the most important, thing about the end tackle. The bait.
What kind of baits did you use? Please, tell me about it.
I have angled with four rods. We agreed that I will use only my own baits at two buoys,
and I am going to angle at the other two - as an experiment -- with SBS M1 boilie which is in a testing phase at the moment.
There was a good quantity of catches on both boilies, but bigger fish
came on the M1 boilie offered at the buoy on the left , marked 1.
With M1 I have caught three fish over 20 kg so far, and with my boilies, not because there are bad, but....
you have to say these are not that good.
Here it also depends on your luck, what you comes to the hook.
I have caught fish of 17-19 kg with my boilies. I can say that these baits have worked well for me,
and probably I will use these in the future, too.
Now I have tried, adapting to the water here, to make it lighter, which means
I balanced it so that the hook will be on the lake bed. I have put a lead on the hooklink between the hook and the bait,
that prevents it from rising from the bottom. It can sway very well on the bottom.
During this angling the snowman-like boilies attract the fish more intensively than the bottom of the boilies.
To make it clear to everyone, the hook is on the lake bed,
but not even the lowest part of the boilie lies on the bottom, it is floating above the bed.
Yes, it depends on the floating characteristic of the pop-up boilie.
It has to be experimented with. You can check it in a bucket or in the water.
There are pop up boilies which are in balance with the sinking boilie, therefor it doesn't have to be leaded,
but if the snowman rises from the lakebed it is practical to weigh it with putty or with small lead shot.
I think that thanks to Laci we received an answer to all our questions about the practices used to catch big fish.
There is only one thing left. I mentioned in the morning that we had two things to look at.
The other thing is related to this special tool next to me. I would like to ask Laci
to tell us how to use this unusual tool.
This is a hooked tool, that can be made from the handle of the telescopic painting tool.
The point is that you have to place a hook at the end. It is not for taking 100kg trees out of the water,
but for trying to find the line in the obstruction.
We have to look in the water until we find the main line.
If the line at the end of the rod is moving in a V-shape, then unfortunately you have to tie again.
You have to repeat it again until the line is not completely freed.
You don't have to be afraid, as I have already mentioned, you can take out 6-8 or more fish out of 10.
You only need patience and time.
These leads and hooks hold the fish. It can't fall off and you can rescue it.
A good example was when we were in the water near the island, and rescued a wild carp of about 15 kg.
We didn't bring it out for a photo shooting, thinking, a bigger one might come.
We didn't want to hit the water, therefore applying the previous baiting method, we placed the bait and came out.
We tried to rescue the fish from the obstruction for 20 minutes then we finally got it.
That's right. We were looking for the end of the line. Yes, it was there.
We succeeded, picked it up and led the fish out in the depth; I saw it with my own eyes.
To sum it up, thanks to this hook, you don't have to be afraid of the obstructions but you have to solve the problem.
We have got it! It is ours, Laci!
We have caught this beautiful carp. We are going back to the shore, and remove the hook. It is over 20 kg again.
This place has given us a fourth beautiful, big fish. - Yes, that's right. Be careful here.
You won't believe this. You can see this brutal big carp. It is beautiful.
It is close to 30 kg.
Yes, it is. We can weigh it. I feel it is the heaviest of all.
I don't want to speak too soon, but...
Wait, I let it go.
28.20 kg. Look! 28.80 kg. How about this?
You could witness the tiring of a carp of 28.20 kg. We couldn't have wished for nicer.
This was the end tackle we placed to the desired area in front of the camera, which was lead through two sticks, and here you can see the result.
28.20 kg. Laci, this is why we came here! This is beautiful!
Look at this! I love it!
Look at this, it is unbelievable. 28.20 kg. Oh, how beautiful it is. A beautiful mirror carp, look at this!
Good. We disinfect the mouth. There is a wound on it, and here, and there on the base of the tail.
What a big back! What about this? Good-bye, send your uncle to us!
Dear Anglers, this is the experience we go angling for.
We have more than 24 hours left of our angling tour, but unfortunately we have to say good-bye to our cameraman.
We have caught many carp over 20 kg, but I am still under the influence of catching a carp of 28 kg.
Not even professional anglers meet such a nice fish every day.
It has been proved that the method, the technique and the bait worked extremely well.
It has been proved by several carp over 20 kg.
We can learn the lesson from this episode, that the obstruction is a problem that you shouldn't be afraid of, but you have to solve.
We are saying good-bye with the pictures of the catches in the last 24 hours. Join me next time, too! Bye!
Amazing! 17 and a half!
We had a special catch on our tour that is important to mention.
The last catch of our tour was a mirror carp of 34.20 kg. You can see the pictures now.
It is far above 30. A beautiful finish.
Yes, it is. It is a killer.
-34.20 kg. closer, once again that you can see it well.
I would like to take the opportunity and say thank you to my angler-friends for taking part
in the testing and presentation of the new 20+ series. Special thanks to Imi Gyöngyösi, who caught more carp over 20 kg, and two over 35 kg.
Also to László Pámer, who caught several carp over 20 kg, and one over 34 kg.
I also would like to say thank you to my team-mates, András Szigetfalvi and Dániel Novák for their work and help.
We took part together at the World Cup Classic in 2011. Here we finished in 7th place out of 130 teams,
and won the prize for the biggest fish in sector, thanks to a mirror carp of 24.80 kg.
I hope that these outstanding results show that the new 20+ series of 2012
is suitable for big fish angling. I hope you enjoyed this episode, see you next time. Bye!