Regular 11/13/12 Session - Norfolk City Council


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>>> IF IT'S OKAY, WE'LL GET STARTED.
I THINK TERRI WILL JOIN US AND WE HAVE A CLOSED SESSION.
>> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JUST A FEW THINGS IN TERMS OF THE AGENDA
OVERVIEW. TONIGHT IT'S TWO PIECES.
ONE, WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO BUILD ON SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT
WE RECEIVED FROM THE RETREAT, AND ONE OF THE PRESENTATIONS YOU
WILL SEE TONIGHT IS FROM RON WILLIAMS, WHICH DEALS WITH -- WE
CALL IT BENCHMARKING REPORT, WORLD CLASS STREETS.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION NOT
JUST FROM SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS, BUT WHAT'S
HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN TERMS OF BEST PRACTICES, AND
THEN WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO IS ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES
THAT HAVE POPPED UP OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR, GIVING
YOU AN UPDATE ON THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, THE REGIONAL JAIL, AS
WELL AS DESIGN BUILD. SO WITH THAT SAID, MAYOR, THAT'S
WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT. >> THANKS.
ANDY, DID YOU HAVE -- >> YEAH, I WROTE A COUPLE THINGS
DOWN. IT HAD TO DO WITH THE ELECTION
LAST WEEK. I'M SURE WE ALL ARE ELATED WITH
THE TURNOUT THAT WE HAD, NOT TALKING ABOUT THE RESULTS, BUT
JUST THE NUMBER OF OUR CITIZENS WHO PARTICIPATED IN IT, BUT MY
COMPLAINT AS WELL AS OTHERS WAS THE WAIT TIME.
NOW, YOU KNOW, WE ANTICIPATED THAT IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A
HEAVY TURNOUT BECAUSE WHEN THE ELECTORAL BOARD CAME TO US
SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND WE TALKED ABOUT CONSOLIDATION AND, YOU
KNOW, THE FACT THAT THE STATE WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO BUY ANY
MORE ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES AND IF WE HAD TO INCREASE THAT,
WE HAD TO GO TO THE PAPER BALLOT, WHICH I THINK ALL OF US
AROUND THE TABLE DECIDED WE DIDN'T WANT.
BUT IT TOOK UP A LOT OF TIME IN THE POLLING PLACES.
IN MOST CASES, IT WRAPPED AROUND THE BUILDING IN A LOT OF CASES,
BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME IS THAT AT THE POLLING PLACE IN
BERKLEY, AN ORDER HAD BEEN SENT OUT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS
AND RECREATION TO REMOVE A LARGE TREE ADJACENT TO WHERE PEOPLE
WERE VOTING AND LUCKILY, ANN BOONE AND SOME OF THE OTHERS
CALLED DOWN AND ASKED THEM NOT TO DO THAT, SO THEY DIDN'T, YOU
KNOW, DO IT. THE CYNICAL SIDE OF ME BELIEVES
THAT THE EFFORT WAS TO SUPPRESS THE VOTE.
OVER AT P.B. YOUNG ELEMENTARY, DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE
ELECTION, AN UNMARKED POLICE CAR CAME UP, LIGHTS FLASHING, DOORS
OPENED, AND SAID THEY WAS THERE FOR THE TRAFFIC STOP.
AND THEY STAYED THERE FOR ABOUT 20 OR 25 MINUTES, YOU KNOW,
DOING THAT. BUT ALL IN ALL, IT WAS A GOOD
DAY FOR THE VOTERS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT DETERRED.
IN ADDITION, IF YOU THINK ABOUT -- IF YOU FOLLOWED THE
RESULTS, HAD NOT THIS COUNCIL PREVENTED THE ELECTORAL BOARD
FROM CLOSING OR CONSOLIDATING BALLENTINE WITH COLEMAN PLACE
AND HUNTON Y WITH P.B. YOUNG SCHOOL, THAT WOULD HAVE, I
THINK, DILUTED THE VOTE QUITE A BIT AND I THINK IT WAS PRUDENT
ON THE PART OF THIS COUNCIL NOT TO DO THAT.
BUT ONE THING, ALSO, THEY DIDN'T FINISH COUNTING THE ABSENTEE
BALLOTS UNTIL 12:00 MIDNIGHT AND THERE WERE ONLY 6800 ABSENTEE
BALLOTS AND I JUST -- MAYBE I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY COUNT THEM,
BUT I JUST -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COUNT THEM HAND BY HAND,
BUT IN A CLOSE ELECTION, IT SEEMS THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
A VERY, VERY DELICATE SITUATION. AND ANN, WERE YOU ON THE
ELECTORAL BOARD AT ONE TIME? SO MAYBE WE NEED TO GET THE
PEOPLE ON THE ELECTORAL BOARD, IF WE HAVE TIME THIS YEAR, TO
EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN DO TO, YOU
KNOW, IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, THAT TYPE OF THING.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE A VOTE LIKE THAT AGAIN UNLESS HILLARY
CLINTON RUNS AGAINST JEB BUSH. WE PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME TYPE
OF TURNOUT, YOU KNOW. BUT IT WAS JUST --
>> IS THAT YOUR PREDICTION, PAUL?
>> BUT IT WAS VERY UNPLEASANT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT THEY
TOUGHED IT OUT. >> YOU CAN ASK FOR ACTION
REVIEW. >> YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY,
ANDY AND I -- I THINK WE'RE ALL THRILLED WITH THE TURNOUT.
ONE OF THE PRECINCTS THEY COMBINED WAS THE OLD DOMINION
AND LARCHMONT ELEMENTARY AND AT 6:00, THAT COMBINED PRECINCT WAS
WRAPPED WAY AROUND THE STREET. I MEAN, PLACES THAT COMBINED
SEEMED TO HAVE ISSUES WITH IT. I DON'T THINK THAT WAS BY
DESIGN. MAYBE THEY JUST WEREN'T
PREPARED, I DON'T KNOW. IT WOULD BE NICE, EVEN AS SOON
AS NEXT WEEK, IF WE COULD HAVE THE REGISTRAR TO COME IN AND
ELECTORAL BOARD, JUST SO THE PUBLIC WOULDN'T -- I THINK WOULD
LIKE TO KNOW NOT ONLY ABOUT THE LONG WAIT, BECAUSE WHY IT TAKES
SO LONG TO -- I MEAN, THIS MAY BE SATURATION, BUT I THINK THEY
DECLARED CALIFORNIA FOR OBAMA BEFORE NORFOLK ACTUALLY
REPORTED. SO I MEAN, JUST -- THESE PEOPLE
WORK HARD AND ANDY KNOWS HOW HARD ALL THESE PEOPLE WORK AND
THEY GET PAID A FEW BUCKS FOR DOING IT.
I'M NOT FUSSING AT ANYBODY. I JUST THINK WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE
TO DO IT BETTER. >> I WAS SURPRISED, TOO, BECAUSE
NORFOLK CALLING THE ELECTION -- NORFOLK IS USUALLY THE FIRST ONE
OUT WITH THEIR NUMBERS AND WE WERE THE LAST, AND I WAS TEXTING
MARCUS, EVEN CNN WAS POINTING OUT THAT NORFOLK'S NUMBERS
HAVEN'T COME IN YET, AND I KNEW IT WOULD TURN VIRGINIA, YOU
KNOW, AND IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE THAT THEY WERE HOLDING ALL
THE NUMBERS -- I DON'T WANT TO RUSH THE PROCESS FOR, YOU KNOW,
NATIONALISM, BUT IT WAS ALMOST 11:00 BY THE TIME THEY ALL CAME
IN AND THERE WAS SOME MISREPORTING AND EVEN IF YOU
WENT ON OUR WEBSITE AND CLICKED IT ON, IT WAS SHOWING A PREVIOUS
ELECTION. IT WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.
>> I THINK WE HAVE A NICE OPEN DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE PREPARED IN THIS NEXT WEEK,
BUT -- >> IF THEY'RE NOT READY, THEN
SOMETIME IN JANUARY. WE WANT TO KEEP IT --
>> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. >> AND THE OTHER THING TOO THAT
I RAN ACROSS OVER AT THE LIBRARY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
EDUCATIONAL PROCESS IS THAT THEY TAKE THESE POLL WORKERS THROUGH,
BUT THERE WAS SEVERAL YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WERE REGISTERED TO
VOTE, HAD THEIR VOTER I.D. CARD, BUT THEY WEREN'T IN THE SYSTEM.
BEFORE WE STARTED TELLING THEM TO GO BACK AND REQUEST A
PROVISIONAL BALLOT, THEY WERE BEING TURNED AWAY, AND I MEAN,
IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE WORKING THE POLLS NEED
TO KNOW THE RULES, AND, YOU KNOW, IF A PERSON COMES IN WITH
A REGISTRATION CARD, THEY GOT IT FROM SOMEWHERE.
IF THE SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING, THEY NEED TO ADVISE THEM THAT
YOU CAN, IF YOU CHOOSE TO, STILL MAKE A PROVISIONAL BALLOT VOTE
AND NOT JUST SAY, WELL, YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED, YOU CAN'T VOTE.
YOU'RE NOT IN THE SYSTEM, YOU CAN'T VOTE.
I MEAN, THERE WAS VERY DISHEARTENING TO A LOT OF YOUNG
PEOPLE WHO HAD REGISTERED AND IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE ATTORNEY FROM
THE -- THE ELECTION ATTORNEY OUT THERE AND LETTING FOLKS KNOW
THAT THEY CAN GO BACK IN AND MAKE THAT REQUEST, THERE ONE OF
A NUMBER OF THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT -- WE CAME ACROSS
OVER 100 WHO, YOU KNOW -- AND THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.
ONE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, NOT -- WHATEVER, BUT THERE WERE OVER
100. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT
HAPPENED ON ANY OTHER CAMPUS. IT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE
ADDRESS THAT THEY USED OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY DID HAVE
VOTER I.D. CARDS, AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
BUT FOR THE ELECTION OFFICIALS TO TURN THEM AWAY, THAT WAS THE
THING THAT BOTHERED ME THE MOST. >> IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR US TO
ADD TO OUR LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE ASKING FOR ANY LEGISLATION THAT
ALLOWS EARLY VOTING? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT SEEMS TO
BE WHAT VIRGINIA BEACH IS GOING TO BE REQUESTING AND I DON'T
KNOW IF THERE'S A BILL -- JANE HOWE THAT USUALLY SPONSORS
SOMETHING. >> YEAH, I THINK WE CAN HAVE
BRIAN START ACTING ON THAT. THAT'S THE WAY EVERYBODY ELSE IS
GOING IN THIS DAY AND AGE. WE OUGHT TO DO THAT.
OKAY, THANK YOU, PAUL. MR. BURFOOT.
>> OH, HE'S GOT PROBLEMS. >> A LONG AGENDA HERE.
MR. DUKE, THIS IS FOR YOU. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE
7-ELEVEN ON BALLENTINE IS COMING UP AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
SOMEONE IS OUT THERE DOING THE INSPECTIONS.
THEY PRESENTED DRAWINGS TO US AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY
PRESENTED TO US IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE GETTING.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE -- I KNOW WE'RE SCHEDULED TO OPEN
THAT STORE ON THE 29th OF NOVEMBER.
WE WORKED THROUGH AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM AN
ARCHITECTURE STANDPOINT, WE HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE.
>> THAT'S IT? >> THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD
LIKE TO SEE ABOUT THE ELECTION WAS IN ADDITION TO OUR
LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE, MAYBE NOT FOR THIS YEAR, BUT FOR NEXT
YEAR, IN LOOKING AT THAT LEGISLATION THAT WILL NOT ALLOW
US TO BUY ANY MORE ELECTRONIC VOTING EQUIPMENT, AND GETTING
OUR LEGISLATORS TO INTRODUCE LEGISLATION TO CHANGE.
THAT'S JUST -- [ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ]
>> I SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. >> YEAH, I THINK -- I MEAN --
>> IT'S A CONSPIRACY. >> YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING
BREAKS, I MEAN THEY -- WE CAN'T EVEN REPLACE THEM.
>> I'M CRUSHED THAT YOU WOULD -- >> ONE, I NOTICED AFTER THE
STORM THERE'S A LOT MORE STREET LIGHTS OUT AND I DON'T KNOW IF
WE PAY FOR THEM -- RIGHT? WE PAY FOR THEM REGARDLESS IF
THEY'RE ON OR OFF, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE ASSESSING THAT,
IF THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ASSESSMENT OF DAMAGE, BUT
THERE'S JUST A LOT OF POLES THAT'S OUT.
I KNOW IT'S HARD, AS WE RELY ON OUR CITIZENS, AND IT MAY BE IF
WE PICK UP OUR PREP ON THAT OR REPORTING THE STREET LIGHTS OUT,
SO WE CAN GET MORE OF THEM TAKEN CARE OF.
I KNOW PUBLIC WORKS TRIES TO GET THEM WHEN THEY CAN AND WE'RE
ASKING CIVIC LEAGUES TO GO AND CHECK THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND
SOME OF THE MAIN ROADS. THE SECOND THING WAS I BROUGHT
UP THE ISSUE ABOUT THE DUNES DOWN IN OCEAN VIEW AND I GOT A
REALLY NICE RESPONSE FROM -- IN A MEMO, THE COUNCIL MEMO FROM
LORI, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE -- IT WAS JUST MORE OF AN
INFORMATIONAL THING THAT WE DON'T -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE
OFF THE TOP OF THE DUNES, WHICH THAT WAS JUST ONE THING THAT WAS
SAID. I'M LOOKING FOR ACTION AND
SOMEBODY GOING DOWN THERE AND DOING THE ASSESSMENT AND TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. IT WAS A NICE REPLY, BUT THAT
WAS SOMETHING THAT THE CIVIC LEAGUE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ASKING
FOR SOME KIND OF RELIEF AND THERE WAS NO INDICATION THAT
STAFF WAS GOING TO TRY TO LOOK AND ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
JUST MORE OF AN INFORMATIONAL THING THAT CAME BACK.
SO I WASN'T SURE IF YOU GUYS WERE DONE WITH THAT OR IF IT WAS
JUST TO KEEP IT -- THE CONVERSATION GOING.
AND JUST HAVE THEM CONTACT DICK --
>> OKAY. >> THE ONLY THING, MARCUS, I
KNOW THEY HAVE THE MARATHON THIS WEEKEND.
I UNDERSTOOD (INAUDIBLE). DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?
>> OUTSIDE OF MY, YOU KNOW, WIFE --
>> DOES SHE RUN? >> YEAH.
>> WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
I KNOW THE CITY DIDN'T RUN -- >> RIGHT.
OUR UNDERSTANDING IS TWO THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.
BFRT END OF THE WEEK -- BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK, WE WILL
HAVE THE -- THEY WILL HAVE THE TIME FOR BOTH THE INDIVIDUALS IN
THE HALF MARATHON AND THE FULL MARATHON AND THAT IS, I THINK
TUESDAY FOR THE HALF AND THURSDAY FOR THE FULL.
[ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ] THEY'RE GOING TO POST THEM ON
THEIR WEBSITE AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE TIME SLOTS
(INAUDIBLE). >> OKAY.
>> WELL, WITH THAT SAID, WE HAVE ONE ITEM THAT'S GOING TO BE IN
THE FORMAL AGENDA FOR TONIGHT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN FEBRUARY
AND FRANK IS GOING TO BRING YOU UP TO DATE ON THIS.
>> AS THE CITY MANAGER HAS INDICATED, WE DID ORIGINALLY
PRESENT THIS ITEM TO YOU SEVEN MONTHS AGO.
WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON IT AS WE BRING IT FORWARD
THIS EVENING AND IT IS A REQUEST BY MEREDITH INVESTMENTS FOR A
SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR A USED MERCHANDISE ESTABLISHMENT ON
PRINCESS ANNE ROAD. THIS IMAGE INDICATES THE SITE.
THIS IS THE ACTUAL BAY IN WHICH IT WILL BE LOCATED, THE FOX HALL
NEIGHBOR, THE BAY SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER.
THE ZONING DOES PERMIT THE USE WITH THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
WHAT THEY PROPOSE WITH THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS THEY BE
OPEN FROM 9:00 A.M. TO 9:00 P.M. DAILY.
THEY COMMITTED TO NO OUTSIDE STORAGE DISPLAY OR DELIVERY AND
THEY WOULD DO NO AUCTIONS. ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES YOU
ASKED FOR IS THEY AGREE TO NO USED TIRES AND THEY HAVE AGREED
TO THAT AS WELL. GIVING YOU THE HISTORY, WE IN
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT RECEIVED THE APPLICATION IN OCTOBER OF
LAST YEAR. IT WENT TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION IN DECEMBER, ROUGHLY ABOUT SEVEN WEEKS AFTER WE GOT
THE APPLICATION. PRESENTED IT TO CITY COUNCIL ON
JANUARY, YOU CAN CONTINUED THIS UNTIL THE APPLICANT HAD A LEASE
ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A TENANT.
IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, THEY CAME TO US WITH A SIGN LEASE
THAT THEY DO HAVE A TENANT GOING INTO THE PROPERTY.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS.
I DIDN'T SEE THE LEASE. I WAS JUST TOLD BY MY STAFF THEY
DID PROVIDE A COPY OF THE LEASE, BROUGHT THAT IN WITH THEM AND
THEY LEFT WITH IT. THEY DO HAVE A TENANT.
FROM THE PLAN STANDPOINT, WE THINK THERE'S AN ERROR IN THE
GENERAL PLAN BECAUSE THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATES THE WHOLE AREA
AS RESIDENTIAL WHILE IT IS CLEARLY A COMMERCIAL
DEVELOPMENT, AND IN THE PLAN NORFOLK 2030, IT IS SHOWN AS
COMMERCIAL. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE DO
WITH ANY USED MERCHANDISE ESTABLISHMENT IS LOOK AT WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN THE AREA. THERE ARE NO OTHER USED
MERCHANDISE ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE AREA.
WE DO TRY TO KEEP THERE FROM BEING ANY KIND OF A
CONCENTRATION. WE DO HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT
FROM THE FOX HALL NEIGHBORHOOD, INDICATING THEIR SUPPORT FOR
THIS PARTICULAR SITE. PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, THE
APPLICANT WAS IN SUPPORT AND FOR ONE SHOWED UP IN OPPOSITION.
BASED ON THAT, THE ADMINISTRATION RECOMMENDATION IS
APPROVAL. THEY MET ALL THE ORDINANCE
REQUIREMENTS FOR LACK OF ANY SIMILAR USES IN THE AREA, WHICH
AGAIN, NO CONCENTRATION, AND NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BY 5-2 WITH THE
PROPONENTS POINTING OUT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORTED, THE
BASIS FOR THEIR SUPPORT. THE OPPONENTS INDICATED THEY
DON'T THINK THE CITY SHOULD HAVE ANY USED MERCHANDISE
ESTABLISHMENTS ANYWHERE IN THE CITY.
>> WHO WERE THE TWO? >> MR. FRALEY AND MS. STONE.
>> BOTH OF THE OTHER -- FRANK, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE KING'S
DAUGHTERS IN A COUPLE OF PLACES AND 9:00 SEEMS LATE TO ME FOR A
PLACE LIKE THAT. >> IT IS LATER THAN MOST OF THE
OTHERS, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, MR. RIDDICK.
>> AND TO ME, IF WE LET IT FOR 9:00 TO 6:00 OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT, BUT 9:00 TO 9:00 IN MY OPINION IS --
>> ESPECIALLY IN THAT CORRIDOR. >> YEAH.
[ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ] >> DOWN PRINCESS ANNE ROAD
PAST -- IF YOU GO DOWN PRINCESS ANNE ROAD AND PASS WHERE THE OLD
BANK OF HAMPTON ROADS USED TO BE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AT THE
CORNER OF PRINCESS ANNE ROAD AND --
>> THE DAY'S MART? >> YEAH, AND YOU KEEP GOING DOWN
THERE. FRANK, ON THE 9:00, WHAT ELSE IS
OPEN AND WHAT ARE THE HOURS -- WHAT ARE THE OTHER HOURS THAT
ARE OPEN IN THAT -- >> IN THE SHOPPING CENTER?
>> DO THEY VARY? >> NOTHING ELSE IS OPEN IN THAT
SHOPPING CENTER. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE DON'T
CONTROL THE HOURS ON THE OTHER USES IN THE ESTABLISHMENT, THE
SHOPPING CENTER, BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT MR. BURFOOT ALSO
SAID THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANYTHING OPEN THAT LATE.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THE CLOSING HOURS BECAUSE WE'VE
NEVER REGULATED THE CLOSING HOURS FOR THESE ESTABLISHMENTS.
>> BUT IN GENERAL, NONE OF THEM STAY OPEN UNTIL 9:00.
>> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY THAT ARE STAYING OPEN THAT LATE.
BECAUSE THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION, CITY COUNCIL CAN
IMPOSE CONDITIONS ON IF YOU WANTED AN EARLIER CLOSING TIME,
YOU CAN DO THAT. WE CAN WORK WITH MR. PISHKO'S
OFFICE TO GET THE ORDINANCE CHANGED.
YOU CAN INDICATE TO HIM TONIGHT THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
>> I'LL CHANGE IT TO 6:00 AND WE'LL NOTE THE AMENDMENT BEFORE
YOU VOTE ON IT. >> WHY DON'T WE DO 7:00?
[ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ] THAT WOULD ME SEEM --
>> I AGREE. >> (INAUDIBLE) IS 7:00.
9:00 MAY BE TOO LATE, BUT -- >> YEAH.
>> ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO (INAUDIBLE).
OKAY. IS THAT IT, FRANK?
CAN I MENTION ONE OTHER AGENDA ITEM?
R-1, THIS IS THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AT THE POTTER'S --
WHAT IS IT. >> THE CHURCH ON MILITARY
HIGHWAY? >> YES, THE CHURCH ON NORTH
MILITARY HIGHWAY. CAN WE GET ANOTHER MONTH?
WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT ONCE BUT BOTH OF THE PARTIES ARE STILL
TRYING TO WORK OUT DETAILS OF THIS THING.
R-1 IS JUST BETWEEN THE PARTIES, THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT CARE
ABOUT IT AND THEY STILL NEED A FEW MORE WEEKS TO WORK
EVERYTHING OUT. >> I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO
WORK OUT WHO'S GOING TO DO THE INSTALLATION OF THE LANDSCAPING
THAT'S REQUIRED. >> THEY'RE REZONING THAT
PROPERTY TO INDUSTRY? >> INSTITUTIONAL.
>> INSTITUTIONAL SO THEY CAN BE A CHURCH?
>> BE A CHURCH. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SUPPORTED
IT AND THE ONLY ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN RAISED IS THE ISSUE THAT WE
SPENT THE MOST TIME ON WAS WORKING THROUGH THE REQUIREMENTS
FOR LANDSCAPING THE PARKING LOT. EVERYONE HAS REACHED AGREEMENT
ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AT THIS POINT, I THINK IT'S --
THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE LANDLORD TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHO'S GOING TO DO IT. >> THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS MOSTLY
SUPPORTIVE OF IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT ANOTHER ANY MARKET TO
COME THERE, AND SO -- FLEA MARKET TO COME THERE AND I
UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT FUTURE GROWTH DOWN MILITARY
HIGHWAY, THAT WHOLE AREA NEEDS ASSISTANCE, NEEDS HELP.
I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT FITS OUR FUTURE PLANS FOR
THAT SECTION, BUT WITH COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
IT -- >> A CHURCH WOULDN'T BE
INAPPROPRIATE HERE BASED ON THE FUTURE PLANS FOR THE AREA.
THE ISSUE IS LOOKING AT NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
THE BIG ISSUE WE HAVE ON THE MILITARY HIGHWAY CORRIDOR ARE
THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR DECADES THAT DON'T COME
CLOSE TO MEETING OUR CURRENT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, AND SO
THAT DOES BECOME THE BIG CHALLENGE WITH EVERYTHING GOING
IN NEW ON MILITARY. >> OKAY.
THANK YOU. >> DARRELL.
>> YES. FOR THE UPCOMING BOND FINANCING,
THERE'S A PRESENTATION IN YOUR DROPBOX THAT GOES THROUGH IN
DETAIL AS WE'VE DONE IN THE FAST.
I WANT TO FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION TO TWO ITEMS, PARTICULARLY THE
NEW MONEY ISSUANCE THAT WE HAVE PLANNED.
THE FIRST IS A WASTEWATER SYSTEM REVENUE BOND, PAR AMOUNT OF
$12 MILLION. AUTHORIZED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND ISSUED TO THE VIRGINIA RESOURCES
AUTHORITY, VERY COST EFFECTIVE PROGRAM WITH ZERO PERCENT
INTEREST RATE. THE SECOND TRANSACTION -- AND
BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, SCHEDULED FOR
PUBLIC HEARING FOR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
THE SECOND NEW MONEY ISSUANCE IS ESTIMATED NOT TO EXCEED $60
HUNDRED. WATER SYSTEM REVENUE BONDS, A
PUBLIC ISSUANCE BASED ON OUR WATER SYSTEM'S STRONG AA2 AND
AA-PLUS RATING, AND AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE SCHEDULED TO
PRICE AND CLOSE IN FEBRUARY OF 2013.
AS WE HAVE DONE -- >> DO WE NORMALLY ISSUE WATER
BONDS FOR 30 YEARS? >> YES.
WE TRY, OF COURSE, NOT TO EXCEED THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE ASSET,
WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE WASTEWATER PROGRAM WHICH WE
ISSUE OVER 20 YEARS. THE OTHER THINGS ARE AS WE --
THE OTHER THREE ITEMS ARE REFUNDING ITEMS AND AS WE'VE
DONE IN RECENT YEARS, WE HAVE OUR MINIMUM SAVINGS THRESHOLD OF
3%, MEANING IF WE'RE NOT SAVING 3% OR MORE, WE WON'T DO THE
REFUNDING, AND THE ASK THROUGH THIS IS THAT COUNCIL AUTHORIZE
THE CITY MANAGER TO EFFECT TWO REFUNDINGS, OR GIVE HIM THE
AUTHORITY TO EFFECT TWO REFUNDINGS.
ONE IS FOR THE GENERAL OBLIGATION AND WATER REFUNDING
BONDS THAT WE DID IN APRIL -- ANYWAY AND APRIL OF THIS YEAR
WITH $100 MILLION, NOT TO EXCEED FOR WATER SYSTEM REFUNDING AND
$120 MILLION FOR GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND REFUNDING.
THOSE ITEMS DON'T REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION AS THEY'RE
PREVIOUSLY ISSUED BONDS. AND THE LAST ITEM IS WITH
REGARDS TO THE FIRST NEW MONEY, THE $12 MILLION LOAN, WE HAVE AN
EXISTING LOAN THAT WE'RE SEEKING AN INTEREST RATE REDUCTION ON.
THAT IS DEEMED A REFUNDING AND DOESN'T REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION
FOR CONSIDERING THE ORDINANCE ON DECEMBER 13th.
SO THE NEW LOAN DOCUMENT WILL BE PUT IN PLACE WITH THAT OTHER
INTEREST RATE. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS,
I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO -- >> ZERO PERCENT BOND, IS THE
STATE GIVING THAT MONEY? ARE THEY BUYING THE BONDS?
>> YES. >> WHY ARE THEY ASKING YOU TO GO
THROUGH THE BOND PROCESS? >> SO THAT IT'S A LEGALLY -- AND
BERNIE PISHKO MIGHT SPEAK BETTER TO IT, SO IT'S A BONDING
AGREEMENT, A LEGAL DOCUMENT, SO WE'VE GOT TO HAVE IN PLACE.
>> WHY IS IT -- >> IT IS STILL A LOAN.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WHY DO YOU GO THROUGH THE EXPENSIVE --
I DON'T KNOW HOW (INAUDIBLE). >> IT'S COMPETITIVE AND IN
ADDITION TO INTEREST, THEY DO WANT THE PRINCIPAL REPAID, SO IT
IS INTEREST-FREE, BUT THE DOCUMENTATION IS SIMILAR.
>> THEN DON'T CALL IT A BOND. >> IT IS A BOND.
>> IT COSTS MONEY TO CREATE A BOND, WHETHER YOU SELL OR --
>> RIGHT, RIGHT. [ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ]
>> RIGHT. AND SO THE SAME DISCLOSURES
WHICH YOU HAVE TO MAKE FOR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ARE MADE
FOR PRINCIPAL WITHOUT INTEREST. >> SEEMS IT WOULD BE SIMPLER
(INAUDIBLE). >> RIGHT.
IT WOULD. >> PAY THAT BACK TOO.
>> RIGHT. >> COUNCILMAN, I THINK YOUR
COMMENTS ARE RIGHT ON AND WHILE WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
PROCESS OF CREATING THE LOAN DOCUMENT FOR THE TRANSACTION, IT
IS MUCH SIMPLER THAN A PUBLIC TRANSACTION.
IT IS LESS EXPENSIVE AND NOT NEARLY AS COMPLICATED.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO MENTION AND TO COMMEND OUR DEVELOPMENT
DEPARTMENT FOR ITS SUCCESSFUL EFFORTS IN RETAINING BAUER
COMPRESSORS IN NORFOLK. THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF, CHUCK
RIGNEY AND OTHER, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEVELOPMENT HAVE BEEN
SUCCESSFUL OVER THE PAST YEAR IN NOT ONLY ACHIEVING IN EXPANSION,
BUT KEEPING THEM HERE. THEY HAVE BEEN IN NORFOLK SINCE
1976. $15 MILLION EXPANSION IS --
ANTICIPATES TO BRING AN ADDITIONAL 130 JOBS OVER THE
NEXT TWO YEARS, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO KEEP THEM IN THE
NORFOLK INDUSTRIAL PARK. [ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ]
>> AND LET ME ADD TO THAT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE
GOT A LONG HISTORIC RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE BAUER
FAMILY, ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO WHEN MR. BAUER WAS IN GERMANY
AND HE CAME HERE TO GET MEDICAL ATTENTION IN NORFOLK.
AND THEY CAN TAKE THAT COMPANY ANYWHERE NOW, ANYWHERE IN THE
WORLD. THEY ACTUALLY EXPORT PRODUCTS
OUT OF HERE, SO THE FACT THAT THEY LIKE THE WORKFORCE, THE
CLIMATE, AND THE LOCATION, THEY RECOMMEND US TO OTHER PEOPLE AS
WELL, BUT ALSO THE NUMBER OF JOBS THEY HAVE GOT THERE AND
IT'S REALLY GOOD WORK AND I KNOW CHUCK HAD SOME PART ON THAT
PROJECT (INAUDIBLE). >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS
OF COUNCIL. AS THE MANAGER MENTIONED, ON THE
HEELS OF OUR ONGOING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, I HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND A CONFERENCE THAT WE THOUGHT THAT
THERE WAS SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED IN THE SETTING
THAT IT WAS, THAT IT WAS WORST DISCUSSION AND SHARING -- WORTH
DISCUSSION AND SHARING OF THAT WITH COUNCIL THIS EVENING, WHICH
IS A BIT UNCOMMON WHEN SOMEONE ATTENDS A CONFERENCE, BUT THIS
IS A UNIQUE ORGANIZATION. THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CITY
TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS WAS FOUNDED IN THE MID '90s.
IT'S AN ORGANIZATION WITH LARGE CITIES AS ITS MEMBERSHIP.
THERE ARE SOME SMALLER AFFILIATE CITIES, ARLINGTON IS ONE OF THE
HALF DOZEN THAT ARE AFFILIATE CITIES HERE IN THE COMMONWEALTH,
BUT WE SAW IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE
ISSUES THAT THE LARGER CITIES ARE DEALING WITH THAT ARE NOT
ONLY DIRECTLY TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE ORIENTED, BUT
ALSO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE STREETS BECAUSE THAT'S THE
MESSAGE THAT THIS ORGANIZATION IS PUTTING OUT.
THIS ORGANIZATION ENCOURAGES THE EXCHANGE OF TRANSPORTATION IDEAS
AND INSIGHT AND PRACTICES AND AS A GROUP, THEY'RE VERY
INFLUENTIAL ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION
LEVEL, AND SO I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY APPROPRIATE TO BE ABLE TO
ENGAGE WITH THOSE THAT ARE IN THE ORGANIZE.
IT WAS HELD THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 24 THROUGH 26 AND IT WAS VERY
INTIMATE. THERE WAS ONLY ABOUT 250
PARTICIPANTS, SO I HAD THE GREAT BENEFIT OF HAVING GOOD AND VERY
FRANK DISCUSSIONS AND SOME LENGTHY CONVERSATIONS WITH NOT
ONLY CITY OFFICIALS, BUT ALSO SOME NONGOVERNMENTAL
ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE LEADING THE WAY ON SOME OF THE ISSUES
THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT HERE. THESE ARE A SAMPLING OF MOST OF
THE MAJOR SUBJECTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED.
THE CONFERENCE WAS ORGANIZED IN BOTH PLENARY SESSIONS AND
WORKSHOPS, BUT ALSO WALKSHOPS, WHICH WAS SOMETHING UNIQUE.
WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE NEW YORK CITY PLANNERS TO
ACTUALLY WALK US AROUND IN SMALL GROUPS, TWO OR THREE-HOUR WALKS,
AND EXPLAIN WHAT IT WAS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING OVER THE --
PARTICULARLY THE PAST FIVE YEARS OR PAST DECADE IN ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AND IN TRANSPORTATION EFFORTS.
THE ORGANIZATION IS LED BY JEANETTE SADAKAHN.
SHE'S THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR
NEW YORK CITY. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HEARD OF
HER. SHE'S FAMOUS FOR THE BIKE LANES
IN NEW YORK, FOR CLOSING TOWN SQUARE, FOR POP-UP PARKS AND
EVEN TEMPORARY COOLING TRAILERS THAT GO INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.
THIS PHOTO HERE IS WHEN SHE WAS FEATURED IN ESQUIRE'S 2010 BEST
AND BRIGHTEST ISSUE AS ONE OF THE 16 GENIUSES THAT GIVE US
HOPE. SHE'S VERY DATA DRIVEN.
SHE CAN MAKE A BUSINESS CASE FOR MOST OF THE DECISIONS.
SHE ESPOUSES THE PHILOSOPHY OF RAPID IMPLEMENTATION FOLLOWED BY
CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S DONE,
PARTICULARLY AT TOWN SQUARE, ONE OF THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLES, AND
THE ESSENCE OF WHAT SOME OF THE DISCUSSION IN THE CONFERENCE IS
THAT AS CITIES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ABSORB 400 MILLION
PEOPLE BY THE YEAR 2050, SO WE HAVE TO PREPARE FOR THAT.
WE ALSO HAD THE BENEFIT OF THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION
THERE. HE GAVE US SOME INSIGHT INTO
FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION ISSUES, PARTICULARLY THE MOST RECENT
AUTHORIZATION MAP-21. HE MENTIONED THAT IT'S A GOOD
THING THAT IT'S ONLY TWO YEARS BECAUSE THAT GIVES HIM AN
OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK WITH CONGRESS AND DISCUSS WHAT THE
FUTURE OF TRANSPORTATION IS. THEY DO NOT FEEL THAT MAP-21
COMPLETELY ADDRESSES WHAT WE HAD -- WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE, AND
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE FUNDING. HE DID SAY THAT HE BELIEVES THAT
CONGRESS HAS SOLIDIFIED AROUND THE TIGER PROGRAM THAT WAS ONE
OF THE OFFSHOOTS OF THE RECOVERY ACT, AND THAT CONGRESS SEEMS TO
LIKE THE PROGRAM AND HOW IT'S ADMINISTERED, AND THAT'S REALLY
PROBABLY WHERE MOST OF OUR MAJOR PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE WILL
START TO FUNNEL THROUGH. >> TIGER?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- >> THAT'S THE GRANT PROGRAM FOR
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. SO WHETHER IT'S TRANSIT ORIENTED
OR EVEN TRAILS OR SOME ROADS, THEY HAVE BEEN USING TIGER AS
THE MAIN FUNNEL FOR APPLICATIONS.
PRESENTLY WORKING IN AN EARMARK ENVIRONMENT.
HE COMPLETELY EMBRACES URBAN CITIES AGENDA, AND ROLLED OFF A
NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT HIS SECRETARIAT AND THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION HAVE DONE TO SUPPORT URBAN CITIES AGENDA AND
NOW IT'S REALLY THAT THEY HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE FUNDING TO
CONTINUE THAT. HE ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING
INTERESTING THAT HE'S BEEN WORKING ON, LIVEABILITY
PRINCIPLES. HE'S WORKING WITH EPA, THE DOT,
AND HUD FOR A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO PEOPLE, THE ENVIRONMENT, AND
HOW WE MOVE AROUND. AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR
TO WHAT WE DO HERE, BREAKING DOWN SILOS AND WORKING
CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL. IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR THAT FROM
HIM. THIS IS A PICTURE HERE WHERE
HE'S ACTUALLY, DURING THE CONFERENCE, HE WENT OUT ON ONE
OF THE WALKING TOURS AND WERE HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE NEW
APPROACHES FOR WAY FINDING FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND THIS IS
ONE WHERE, VERY SIMPLE MESSAGE, LOOK BEFORE YOU CROSS.
WE HAD THE BENEFIT OF -- SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH BRUISE
KATZ WITH THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTE, WHICH IS A THINK TANK
IN WASHINGTON. HE ESSENTIALLY GAVE A VERY
MOVING DISCUSSION, A LOT OF WHICH IS GOING TO COME OUT IN A
BOOK IN THE SPRING THAT HE DID PROMOTE.
BUT HE DESCRIBED 2012 AS LIVING IN SHOCKTOWN, WHERE POVERTY IS
INCREASING AND THERE'S A DESPERATE NEED FOR NEW JOBS AND
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ESSENTIALLY IS ABSENT FROM ANY
AGENDA FOR CITIES. HE FORECASTS THAT INNOVATION
REALLY IS THE NEXT ECONOMY, THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MANUFACTURING
BOOM, THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. RESEARCH TRIANGLES AND SUBURBS
ARE THE LAST ENTRY AND REALLY, WHAT WE HAD IN THE LAST DECADE,
THAT HOUSING SHOULD BE A DERIVATIVE OF A GROWING ECONOMY,
NOT A DRIVER, SO INNOVATION IS WHAT HE SEES AS AN AREA FOR
GROWTH AND THAT CITIES NEED TO CREATE INNOVATIVE BASIS FOR JOB
GROWTH, SO THAT TIES BACK TO THE TRANSPORTATION.
YOU KNOW, HE REMINDED THE AUDIENCE THAT TWO-THIRDS OF THE
U.S. POPULATION LIVE IN THE TOP 100 METRO REGIONS AND
THREE-QUARTERS OF OUR U.S. GDP IS GENERATED IN THAT SAME AREA.
HE SAID -- TO REALLY MAKE A CASE FOR WHY CITIES, WHY URBAN AREAS
ARE SO IMPORTANT E SAID LOOK AT WHAT COUNTRIES HAVE GROWN IN THE
WORLD. IT'S BRAZIL, INDIA, CHINA, AND
ALL THOSE ECONOMIES HAVE THAT EXPLODED IN URBAN BASE.
MAYOR BLOOMBERG AT THE END OF THE CONFERENCE ADDRESSED US AND
HE MADE SEVERAL STATEMENTS, HE WAS RIGHTFULLY NERVOUS THAT
MORNING. THIS WAS ON THE FRIDAY BEFORE
HURRICANE SANDY. HE EVEN KIND OF SHARED HIS --
WHAT HE WAS WRESTLING WITH, AS WE ALL WRESTLE WITH DECISIONS
BEFORE MAJOR EVENTS LIKE THAT. HE WAS WRESTLING WITH WHAT TO DO
WITH THE BUSES AND SUBWAYS. DOES HE PULL THEM FRIDAY OR PULL
THEM ON SATURDAY? HE KNEW HE WOULD BE CRITICIZED
FOR WHATEVER WAY, AND IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE A MAYOR OF A
LARGE CITY WITH THAT PERSPECTIVE, BUT HE RESTATED
ABOUT WHAT HIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN BEEN, A DATA-DRIVEN
GOVERNMENT PHILOSOPHY. SHARED WITH SOME OF HIS
ADMINISTRATION, ONE-FIFTH CITY'S LAND AREA HAS BEEN REZONED, 130
NEW ACRES OF PARKS ADDED, STREETS 40% SAFER AS FAR AS
ACCIDENTS, BIKE COMMUTING QUADRUPLED WITH THE ADDITION OF
300 NEW MILES OF BIKE LANES AND 52 PEDESTRIAN PLAZA ENCOMPASSING
22 ACRES OF NEW PUBLIC SPACE HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THE
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE BOROUGHS. HE JOKINGLY SAID THE CLOSING OF
TIMES SQUARE WAS HARDER TO DO THAN THE SMOKING BAN, BUT WHAT
IT'S DONE ON TIME SQUARE IS THAT THE RENT FOR COMMERCIAL
PROPERTIES HAVE DOUBLED. [ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ]
>> CLOSE IT TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC.
IT'S A PEDESTRIAN PLAZA. THERE WERE TWO REPORTSES THAT I
HIGHLIGHT AND THEY'RE IN YOUR DROPBOX JUST FOR INFORMATION
SHARING. ONE WAS THAT THE ORGANIZATION
HAS ESTABLISHED AN URBAN STREET DESIGN GUIDE.
THIS WAS THEIR FIRST REALLY ANNUAL CONFERENCE OR CONFERENCE
OF THIS WIDE A SCALE AS FAR AS SUBJECT MATTER.
TYPICALLY THEY WOULD HAVE SOME SMALLER CONFERENCES THAT ARE
TARGETED ON ONE ISSUE, BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAD THE BREADTH
OF WHAT THEY DISCUSSED AND THEY THOUGHT THE RELEASE OF THIS WAS
APPROPRIATE. IT'S BASED ON THE FUNDAMENTAL
IDEA THAT STREETS ARE SPACES FOR PEOPLE AS WELL AS ARTERIES FOR
TRAFFIC. IT SUPPORTS MANY OF THE TOOLS WE
USE HERE IN NORFOLK AND EMBRACES COMPLETE STREETS PHILOSOPHY.
AND COMMISSIONER SADIK-KHAN SAID, CITY OFFICIALS HAVED THAT
TO USE FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES THAT
ARE MORE SUITED TO HIGHWAYS ACROSS THE GREAT PLAINS, NOT
THRIVING CITIES, AND SO THE PLAN AS A GUIDE WALKS THROUGH
DIFFERENT TYPES OF STREET TYPES, WHETHER THEY BE LARGE OR SMALL,
NEIGHBORHOOD-BASED, IT LOOKS AT PUBLIC SPACES, HOW BUSINESS
RELATES TO THAT. LOOKS AT SAFETY, THAT STREETS
CAN BE CHANGED AND THEY SHOW HOW IT'S BEING DONE IN LARGER CITIES
ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND REALLY WITH THIS MESSAGE OF ACT NOW,
WHICH IS THAT RAPID IMPLEMENTATION.
THAT SOMETIMES A VERY SMALL INVESTMENT SUCH AS PAINT OR
PLANTERS CAN HELP CHANGE A CORRIDOR RATHER THAN WAITING FOR
A THREE OR FIVE-YEAR HUGE CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO CHANGE
THAT. REALLY KIND OF A COMPANION TO
THIS IS WHAT NEW YORK RELEASED ALSO, AND THIS IS WITH MAYOR
BLOOMBERG'S AND COMMISSIONER SADIK-KHAN'S DATA-DRIVEN
PHILOSOPHY THAT ALL THIS IS DOING IS CHANGING AND THINKING
ABOUT HOW WE USE OUR STREETS AND BASED ON ESTABLISHING GOALS,
STRATEGIES, AND METRICS FOR THOSE STRATEGIES AND DESIGNED
AROUND SAFETY. THE GOALS ARE DESIGNED AROUND
SAFETY, DESIGNED FOR ALL USES OF THE STREET AND DESIGNED FOR
GREAT PUBLIC SAFETY AND THEY'RE SUPPORTS WHAT THEY'RE SEEING IN
THAT THE NEXT GENERATION WANTS THINGS DIFFERENTLY OR NOT AS
MARRIED TO THE CAR, AND THEY ADMIT THIS IS NOT ABOUT TREE
HOUSES, JOKINGLY. BUT IT WORKS.
GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED, THERE'S A BUSINESS CASE FOR IT AND JUST
AS AN EXAMPLE, AND THIS IS IN YOUR DROPBOX TO SEE, IS HOW
OUTSTANDING SOME OF THE METRICS THAT THEY HAVE.
IN UNION SQUARE WHERE THEY CREATED A PEDESTRIAN PLAZA,
THERE ARE 49 FEWER COMMERCIAL VACANCIES.
IN FERL STREET, WHICH IS OVER IN -- PEARL STREET, WHICH IS
OVER IN BROOKLYN, AND I'VE GOT A FOTE OF THAT I'LL SHOW YOU IN A
FEW MINUTES, 172% INCREASE IN RETAIL BASE.
IT GOES ON AND ON AS FAR AS SAFETY, AS FAR AS PUBLIC SUPPORT
AND BUSINESS GROWTH IN THE AREAS THEY'RE DOING THIS, WHERE
THEY'RE ACTIVATING THE STREETS WITH PEOPLE.
>> YOU MENTIONED PEARL STREET. >> YES, SIR.
>> I THINK IT WAS EARLIER THIS YEAR, I WAS IN NEW YORK AND I
WAS AT THAT PARTICULAR AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE THEY
HAVE JUST, YOU KNOW, CLOSED THE STREETS OFF AND THERE'S NOTHING
BUT SHOPS, YOU KNOW, UP AND DOWN.
BUT THEY'RE JUST -- THERE'S NOTHING BUT SHOPS AND PEOPLE
DINING, YOU KNOW, SHOPPING IN SMALL SHOPS.
>> TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE SESSIONS IN AND TOPICS THAT WERE
COVERED, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT NOW.
WE'RE HEARING ABOUT IT, WE HAVE CITIZENS, RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES
OUT THERE ASKING FOR SOME OF THIS, BUT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY ONE
OF THE KEYSTONE PHILOSOPHIES OF THE ORGANIZATION.
IT IS EMBEDDED IN OUR PLAN 2030 PLAN, AND THAT IS THE COMPLETE
STREETS. THESE IMAGES COME FROM THE
BOSTON COMPLETE STREETS GUIDELINES, WHICH AS REALLY
ROBUST GUIDELINE THAT THEY DEVELOPED OVER THE PAST FEW
YEARS. AGAIN, REALLY IT'S TO REITERATE
WHAT COMPLETE STREETS ARE, COMPLETE STREETS STRIVE TO
FOSTER THE ULTIMATE BALANCE BETWEEN BIKES, PEDESTRIANS, CARS
AND TRANSIT. THE KEY MESSAGE WAS A FOCUS ON
STREETS THAT CONNECT KEY DESTINATIONS, PARTICULARLY WHEN
YOU'RE FOCUSED ON INCLUSION OF BICYCLES OR EVEN TRANSIT IN THAT
AREA. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF
DISCUSSION AMONGST THE CITIES ABOUT THIS INCONGRUENCE THAT'S
GOING ON RIGHT NOW BETWEEN FEDERAL AND STATE D.O.T.
REGULATIONS. WE OBVIOUSLY FELT THAT AS WE'VE
HAD SOME OF OUR NEWER DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THE ONE WE DID
IN EAST BEACH, THE URBAN UNDERSTANDING WITH OUR OWN
D.O.T. HERE IN VIRGINIA, BUT ONE OF THE MESSAGES TOO IS THAT
THERE'S A VISION. IT IS HAPPENING RAPIDLY,
EXPONENTIALLY, PARTICULARLY OVER THE PAST FIVE TO TEN YEARS, BUT
ON ALL THESE ISSUES, NOT EVERYBODY HAS IT FIGURED OUT.
THEY'RE WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THESE AND THAT WAS
COMFORTING TO SEE IS IT'S NOT JUST AS RIGID AS SOME OF OUR
FORMER TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES MIGHT HAVE BEEN.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT BIKEWAYS.
WE DISCUSSED BIKE SHARE LAST MONTH.
ON THE BIKEWAYS, REALLY ONE OF THE FOCUS AND ONE OF THE GOALS
IN THE BICYCLE WORLD IS THIS NOTION OF 8-80 BIKEWAYS, AND
THAT IS ANYONE FROM AGE 8 TO 80 SHOULD FEEL SAFE AND COMFORTABLE
BICYCLING IN A CERTAIN CORRIDOR AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, YOU
OFTEN NEED TO HAVE PROTECTED BIKEWAYS.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE HERE WE SHOW THAT -- THIS IS OVER IN
BROOKLYN, ACTUALLY, WHERE SOMETIMES YOU DO HAVE THE
BENEFIT OF CLOSING A LANE. IT CAN'T ALWAYS BE DONE, BUT
RATHER THAN A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT WITH JERSEY BARRIERS,
THEY USED AN ARTIST TO PAINT THIS AND THEY HAVE HAD A BIEB
LANE USED SUCCESSFULLY. THEY ALSO RELEASED PRIOR TO THIS
CONFERENCE AN UPDATE OF THE URBAN BIKEWAY DESIGN GUIDE,
WHICH IS ONE OF THE FIRST PUBLICATIONS THAT THE
ORGANIZATION PUT OUT. THE UPDATE INCLUDED SHARE ROWS,
BIKE BOXES AND BIKE BOULEVARDS WHICH ARE NEWER USAGE AND I
WON'T GET INTO THE DIFFERENT TERMS THERE.
OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE USING SHARE ROWS.
OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF HAS BEEN USING THIS GUIDE AS REFERENCE AS
WE DEVELOP IDEAS AND WORK WITH THE BIKE COMMISSION.
I HAD THE GREAT BENEFIT OF SPENDING TIME WITH THE NEW YORK
CITY STAFF ON PICKING THEIR BRAIN ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE ABOUT
TO LAUNCH WITH THEIR BIKE SHARE PROGRAM.
I WOULD SAY THEIR MODEL IS WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND AND WE
MENTIONED THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND THAT IS THAT THE
INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE PROGRAM BE 100% SUBSIDIZED BY A PARTNER.
CITY BANK STEPPED UP AS THE CORPORATE SPONSOR AND THEREFORE
IT WOULD BE CALLED CITI BIKE. THEY WILL HAVE 350 STATIONS,
ABOUT 7,000 BIKES THAT WILL LAUNCH IN MARCH OF 2013.
AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM. BUT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO LAUNCH
IN FALL, BUT THEY -- THE BIKE, WHICH IS AN ULTRA BIKE, ONE OF
THE COMPANIES THAT MAKES A BIKE SHARE BIKE, THEY NEEDED -- THEY
WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL THE LATEST GENERATION OF SOFTWARE AND WHAT
THIS BIKE HAS BUILT IN, WHICH IS GPS.
THEY CAN HAVE REALTIME DATA-SHARING WITH THE PUBLIC.
>> I DO LIKE THAT -- THAT'S A GREAT IDEA OF A MODEL WHERE YOU
HAVE THAT DEDICATED BIKE LANE AND I'M NOT GOING TO (INAUDIBLE)
STREET RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE
THREE-LANE ROADS WITH A CENTER MEDIAN THAT PEOPLE FLY DOWN AND
YOU CAN'T RIDE A BIKE ON THE STREET BECAUSE OF THAT.
BUT YOU COULD DEDICATE, LITERALLY, LANES SUCH AS THAT,
IT WOULD SLOW EVERYBODY DOWN ON THE ACTUAL STREET ITSELF, AND IF
YOU PROMOTE THAT -- YOU COULD PROMOTE THAT IT IS A THREE-LANE
ROAD, VERY WIDE AND IN REALITY DOESN'T NEED TO BE A THREE-LANE
ROAD. THAT'S A TREMENDOUS IDEA.
HAVE WE EVER -- I MEAN, THAT NEVER EVEN STRUCK ME, EVEN
CONTEMPLATED. HAS THAT EVER COME UP, DO YOU
KNOW? >> WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT IN
THE -- >> HAVE YOU ALL?
>> BUT THE ISSUE WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, THAT RON WILL SHARE WITH
YOU, DEDICATED LANES, THERE'S SOME ISSUE OF GETTING FEDERAL
FUNDING FOR IT. THIS SHARE ROW, YOU CAN STILL
GET THE FEDERAL FUNDING AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE
HOPING TO WORK THROUGH WITH THE LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE.
THERE'S SOME FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS IF YOU DESIGNATE
IT AS A BIKE LANE, YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE MAINTENANCE FUNDING
FROM VDOT. >> AND THE FEDERAL HIGHWAYS, YOU
HAVE TO HAVE THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
PERMISSION TO CHANGE THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY.
>> WE HAVE A COUPLE STREETS THAT THAT WOULD BE PERFECT ON.
>> HAMPTON BOULEVARD. >> I THINK GRANBY.
>> I AGREE WITH YOU. THAT MAKES FOR SAFE BIKING,
MAKES FOR SAFER DRIVING, IT SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN.
>> I THINK IT SLOWS THEM DOWN AND REDUCES THOSE LANES, BUT
HAMPTON, GRANBY, BOTH, BEAUTIFUL -- I THINK IT WOULD BE
VERY PROGRESSIVE TO HAVE THAT. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
>> SO THE GREAT BENEFIT IS THAT THERE IS SYNERGY AROUND THIS AND
A DESIRE TO WORK TOWARD. IN BOSTON COMPLETE STREETS
DESIGN GUIDE, THEY WILL WELL AHEAD OF MASSACHUSETTS D.O.T.,
BUT MASSACHUSETTS D.O.T. WAS THERE AND OPENLY SHARED, YES, WE
HAVE TO REINVENT HOW WE DO THIS. CONTROVERSIAL, FOOD TRUCKS WAS
ONE ISSUE THAT -- >> SPEAK UP HERE.
WAKE UP, THIS IS IMPORTANT. >> LET ME DESCRIBE THEM A
LITTLE, THAT FOOD TRUCKS CAN BE LOOKED AT AS MOBILE FOOD, FAST
FOOD, RESTAURANT INCUBATORS, THAT THERE'S LOW CAPITAL COSTS,
HIGHER RETURNS AND FLEXIBILITY, THAT THERE'S CULINARY
EXPLORATION THAT HAPPENS, THAT IT'S A GREAT ACTIVATION OF
PUBLIC SPACE AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE REGULATORY
ENVIRONMENT VARIES BY CITY AND STATE.
THERE ARE FOUR PRIMARY CITIES THAT SHARED WHAT THEY'RE DOING,
PORTLAND, L.A., BOSTON AND THEN WE HAD THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEW
YORK CITY FOOD TRUCK ASSOCIATION.
NOW, HE, MR. TAYLOR-WEB YES, HE'S A YALE GRADUATE, MBA GUY,
HE TRIED TO START AND RESTAURANT AND FAILED.
HE FOUND THERE WAS A $150 INVESTMENT IN THE TRUCK AND HE
COULD LEARN HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS, WHICH HE WAS NOT
NATURALLY INCLINED TO DO. HE HAS 60 TRUCKS THAT ARE
MEMBERS OF THE NEW YORK ASSOCIATION.
HE SAID THE GREAT DESIRE OF ALL OF THEM IS TO OWN A BRICKS AND
MORTAR RESTAURANT AND HE HAS GREAT METRICS AND A COMPARISON.
HE HAS WRITTEN A BOOK THAT HE SHARED SOME OF THE INSIGHTS WITH
US, BUT REALLY, ONE OF HIS GREATEST METRICS IS THAT A THIRD
OF HIS MEMBERS HAVE STARTED BRICKS AND MORTAR RESTAURANTS
SINCE HAVING A TRUCK, AND THAT NONE OF THEM HAVE FAILED.
IT WAS GOOD TO GET THAT INSIGHT. LOS ANGELES WAS FORCED INTO IT.
THE SUPREME COURT ISSUED -- THEY ALREADY HAD A CULTURE OF TACO
TRUCKS DOWN THERE, AND SO LOS ANGELES REALLY STILL, IT KIND OF
IS AT THE TABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE FORCED TO BE AT THE TABLE.
PORTLAND IS VERY HANDS-OFF, IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN PUBLIC SPACES,
BUT THEY ALLOW IT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
PRIVATE PROPERTY, YOU CAN HAVE AT IT AND THEY DO CARTS DOWN
THERE. BOSTON IS NEW TO THE GAME.
THEY TRIED IT AS A PILOT PROJECT?
JUNE OF 2011 AND IT WAS SO SUCCESSFUL THAT NOW THEY
SOLIDIFIED. IT'S HEAVILY REGULATED.
IT MAY AND MODEL FOR US -- MAY BE A MODEL FOR US TO LOOK AT.
THERE'S IS SO REGULATED THAT THEY GET INTO WHAT GETS ON THE
MENU, SO REALLY THAT'S TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A
HEALTHY MENU AND THAT'S WHY THEY GET DOWN INTO THAT.
THEY RESTRICT WHERE YOU CAN GO, THE NUMBER OF TRUCKS HAVE
DOUBLED IN THAT PILOT AND THE FIRST-YEAR PROGRAM.
SO IT WAS INTERESTING DISCUSSION.
I THINK, OBVIOUSLY, WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON THAT IN THE
FUTURE. >> THIS ISSUE OF TRAVEL AND
LEISURE WHEN RANKING CITIES AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT CATEGORIES,
AND ONE OF THEM WAS FOOD TRUCKS. AND NORFOLK HASN'T MADE THAT
YET, BUT WE COULD. >> FOOD TRUCKS ARE NOT OUTLAWED
IN NORFOLK. >> I DIDN'T SAY THEY WOULD BE.
>> I'M TRYING TO SHARE HERE A LITTLE BIT OF FLAVOR FOR NOT
ONLY INFRASTRUCTURE AND POLICY, BUT ALSO PROGRAMMING, AND THAT
WAS WHAT WAS GOOD TO HEAR. SO MANY OF THE LARGE CITIES, A
GROWING TREND IS TO HAVE OPEN STREETS IS WHAT THEY CALL IT,
WHICH WAS INSPIRED BY BOGOTA COLOMBIA BUSINESS CYCLOVIA.
WE DO THIS IN VARIOUS WAYS, BUT THESE ARE NOT REGISTERED RUNS,
REGISTERED WALKS, BUT ONE OF THE GREATEST ASSETS THAT OUR
RESIDENTS HAVE INVESTED IN ARE OUR STREETS, SO THE PHILOSOPHY
IS WHY NOT USE THAT ASSET. NEW YORK CITY DID IT THREE TIMES
DURING THE SUMMER. THEY ACTUALLY CLOSE PARK AVENUE
AND SO THERE IS SEVEN MILES FROM CENTRAL PARK ALL THE WAY DOWN TO
BATTERY PARK THAT YOU CAN WALK, BIKE, JUST STAND IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE STREET IF YOU WANT TO AND ENJOY THE ARCHITECTURE.
THEY SAID THE GREAT FEEDBACK THEY GET IS ABOUT WHEN PARENTS
CAN BRING THEIR CHILDREN AND THEN IN AN ENCLOSED AREA LIKE
THAT AND NOT WORRY AT ALL ABOUT THEM -- IT'S A GREAT TRAINING
OPPORTUNITY, A GREAT OUTREACH FOR HEALTHY LIVING.
THEY ALSO DO WEEKEND WALKS IN THE BOROUGHS WHERE THE
NEIGHBORHOOD CAN APPLY TO HAVE ESSENTIALLY LIKE A BLOCK PARTY
AND WE DO THAT AROUND HERE, BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY JUST A LARGER
SCALES AND THEY'RE TYPICALLY A HALF DAY.
SO IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO THINK ABOUT AS WE HAVE A GROWING
DEMAND FOR CYCLING HERE IN NORFOLK AND ALSO IT'S WITH THE
SUCCESS OF MEET, GREET, AND IMAGINE, AND SOME OF THE BIKE
RIDES WE'VE HAD IN THE MONTH OF MAY, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY
FOR CONSIDERATION OF THIS TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
>> RON, I HOPE YOU TOLD THEM HOW CUTTING EDGE NORFOLK IS, WE HAVE
GRANBY MALL. YEARS AGO, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN
SEEN AS THE MOST CUTTING EDGE COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES.
>> SURE. >> FOR WHAT WE HAD.
UNFORTUNATELY, OURS DIDN'T WORK AT THE TIME.
>> SURE. >> BUT THESE GUYS JUST FOLLOW UP
BEHIND THAT. >> I'LL SHARE WITH YOU ONE OF
THE WALKSHOPS THAT I WENT ON. IF YOU'VE BEEN TO BROOKLYN, MR.
RIDDICK, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT PEARL STREET AND I BASICALLY
SUMMED UP ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENED OVER THERE IS THEY
RETHINK, REUSE, REDEVELOP, AND CREATED A RENAISSANCE THAT
REALLY WAS ORGANIC. I LIKE BROCK LYNN BECAUSE IT'S A
SIM -- BROOKLYN BECAUSE IT'S A SIMILAR SCALE AS FAR AS THE
ARCHITECTURE IN THE STREETS, THE AREA.
WE DID A WALK FROM THE DOWNTOWN IN THE COURTS AREA AND ENDED UP
DOWN ON WATER STREET AND DOWN UNDER THE MANHATTAN BRIDGE.
SOME OF THE THINGS THEY DID THAT JUST KIND OF RETHINK HOW YOU DO
THINGS. THEY CLOSED THE STREET AND
CREATED A PLAZA. NOW, IT WAS RAINING WHEN WE WERE
WALKING AROUND, AND I WAS LIKE WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE?
MIDDLE OF THE DAY, BUT IT WAS ALSO RAINING.
WHAT THEY DID IN RETAIL INCREASED, TRANSIT CONNECTIONS
HAD BETTER TIMING AND THERE WAS A BETTER FLOW OF TRAFFIC, SO
THAT'S A PEDESTRIAN PLAZA. NEXT TO THAT IS WHERE THEY HAVE
DONE SOME -- THEY ARE DOING REDEVELOPMENT.
HERE, THIS WAS WHERE THE PAST SUMMER THEY HAD A POP-UP RETAIL
MARKET AND AN URBAN GARDEN. REESTABLISHING URBAN FORESTS IS
SOME OF WHAT THEY DID. WHAT THE PLANNERS INVENTED IS
THAT THE STRATEGY OF THE '80s WAS, AS THEY SAW THE EXODUS,
PARTICULARLY OF BACK-OFFICE OPERATIONS OF MAJOR FINANCIAL
INSTITUTIONS GOING TO NEW JERSEY, THEY SAW BROOKLYN AS
WHERE THEY WANTED TO GET THE CORPORATIONS BACK INTO THE
BOROUGH, AND SO THEY ESTABLISH AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN
WITH SERIOUS REZONING AND INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES
THERE. THEY DIDN'T COME.
IT BECAME RESIDENTIAL. AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS
PRIMARILY WHAT WAS THE DRIVER IN THAT AREA.
AND WITH THE RESIDENTIAL, THEN YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE
WANT DIFFERENT THINGS AND WHAT THEY HAD THAT ORGANICALLY GREW
WAS SMALL BUSINESS AND THEY'RE THREE BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS MUCH
LIKE OUR DNC THAT WERE WITH US AND DESCRIBED WHAT THEIR ROLE
HAS BEEN IN THIS, AND TRY AS THEY MIGHT TO GET SOMEONE TO
COME AND RELOCATE, WHAT THEY FIND IS THAT REALLY THEY NEED TO
SUPPORT THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE AND HELP THEM GROW, AND
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, PARTICULARLY THAT'S REALLY
HAPPENED DOWN IN THE GUMBO AREA. THESE TWO ARE KEY.
IN BETWEEN THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE AND THE MANHATTAN BRIDGE,
ESSENTIALLY THERE WAS A BARRIER, SO A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT CAN
ONLY HAPPEN IN BETWEEN THESE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE BARRIERS.
THIS WAS CLOSED OFF BY A CHAIN-LINK FENCE AND THE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION KEPT THEIR TRUCKS IN THERE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE IS WHERE THIS IS, AT PEARL STREET, AND
THERE'S -- IT'S MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, A HISTORIC WHARF AREA.
THEY OPENED THIS UP. THIS HAS BECOME A VENUE WHERE
YOU CAN HAVE SEVERAL THOUSAND PEOPLE ATTEND A CONCERT.
THEY HAVE HELD A BOXING MATCH THERE.
LET ARTISTS DO LIGHT SHOWS THERE.
IT BROUGHT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACROSS HERE AND
WHERE THIS HAD BEEN FOUR OR FIVE STREETS THAT CAME TOGETHER IN
THIS VERY OPEN -- NOT PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY AREA, THIS
WAS JANETTE SADIK-KHAN'S FIRST PLAZA WHERE SHE LITERALLY
PAINTED A GREEN TRIANGLE AND THIS IS WHERE THE RETAIL IS UP
172%. JUST SOME IDEA SHARING THERE.
LESSONS LEARNED. THE MESSAGE FROM THE BIG CITIES,
AND THIS IS ON 7,000 IN HERE IN COLUMBUS CIRCUMSTANCE IS
ACTIVATE THE STREETS THROUGH DESIGN PARTNERSHIP AND
PROGRAMMING. ALL WHERE YOU SEE THESE TYPE OF
PLAZAS THERE'S A BUSINESS ASSOCIATION OR RETAILERS THAT
HELP SUPPORT THE ACTIVITIES. NOT ALL DONE BY THE CITY.
THE CITIES DID THE VERY LOW INVESTMENT OF THE PLAN PLANTERS,
WHICH ARE PLASTIC, AND THE PAINT, AND IT'S UP TO THE
BUSINESS ASSOCIATION AROUND THERE TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
TRANSIT, USE OF BIKEWAYS ARE KEY FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING IN
THE DISCUSSION. RAPID IMPLEMENTATION AS I
MENTIONED, AND THEN TO REALLY PREPARE FOR REURBANIZATION AS
THE POPULATION SHIFTS, THAT WE'VE SEEN PARTICULARLY SINCE
THE LAST CENSUS DATA, IS COMING BACK TO CITIES.
AND THE FINAL THOUGHTS IS, SO I WENT UP THERE REALLY ON A
BENCHMARKING EXERCISE AND AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS COMFORTING TO
SEE THAT THE LARGE CITIES DON'T HAVE IT ALL FIGURED OUT, THAT
BECAUSE WE HERE IN NORFOLK ARE ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT THIS,
ESSENTIALLY WE'RE RUNNING WITH THE BIG CITIES IN WHAT WE'RE
DOING. PEOPLE WOULD SAY YOU'RE FROM
WHERE? OH, NORFOLK, VIRGINIA.
THE WORLD'S LARGEST NAVY BASE, WE HAVE A LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM, A
PASSENGER RAIL SYSTEM, A CRUISE TERMINAL, A PORT, JUST ON AN ON.
AND THEY SAY, OKAY, A SMALLER SCALE, BUT YOU'RE DOING THE SAME
THING WE'RE DOING. PLAN NORFOLK 2030 DOES HAVE A
COMPLETE STREETS OBJECTIVE. IT SOLIDIFIES OUR COMMITMENT TO
IMPROVING TRANSPORTATION FOR ALL, BUT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO
LOOK FOR WHAT'S THE NEXT THING AND WE KNOW TO CONTINUE TO
CAPITALIZE, PARTICULARLY WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST TWO DECADES
AS WE'VE SEEN IMPROVEMENTS ACROSS THE CITY AND IN THE
DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE A VISION FOR INNOVATION AND
PLACE-MAKING LIKE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE PAST TWO
DECADES. >> I WOULD JUST ADD TO SOMETHING
THAT YOU JUST ALLUDED TO. WE'RE NOT AT THE SCALE OF A NEW
YORK CITY, CHICAGO, L.A., BUT YOU CAN GET -- WHEN I LOOK AT
WHAT YOU BROUGHT BACK AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH
CONFINED TO DOWNTOWN AND YOU SPOKE ABOUT NEW YORK CITY, BUT
THEN YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE VARIABLES AND HOW THEY WERE
DOING VARIOUS THINGS WITHIN VARIOUS COMMUNITIES.
YOU KNOW, CREATING A SENSE OF PLACE OUTSIDE OF MANHATTAN,
WHETHER IT BE QUEENS, WHETHER IT BE BROOKLYN, AND SO I -- YOU
KNOW, SHRINK THAT DOWN TO SAY YOU CAN DO THE SAME THING
WHETHER IT BE IN AN OCEAN VIEW, WHETHER IT BE IN A BROAD CREEK,
BUT VARIOUS AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND I THINK YOU NEED TO
LOOK AT THOSE AREAS AND SEE HOW YOU CAN CULTIVATE THOSE TYPES OF
IDEALS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AS WELL.
THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF VIBRANCY THAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THOSE
COMMUNITIES, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN CULTIVATED OR GIVEN THE LEVEL OF
PLANNING THAT WE'RE DOING DOWNTOWN.
I KNOW DOWNTOWN IS OUR HEART AND WE WANT TO CREATE AN ECONOMIC
ENGINE, BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CANNOT CREATE A QUALITY
OF LIFE THAT'S CONDUCIVE TO THOSE AREAS AS IT WOULD BE
DOWNTOWN. WE CAN FIND CENTER POINT, WE CAN
FIND LANES WHERE YOU CAN OPEN UP VARIOUS AREAS, CREATE THE SAME
TYPE OF SYNERGY AS WELL. AS YOU GO FORWARD, I WOULD HOPE
THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT THOSE AREAS.
>> I THINK IN TERMS OF PROCESS AND NOT LETTING THE BUREAUCRATIC
MUSCLE SLOW THAT TYPE OF STUFF DOWN.
AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD PRESENTATIONS ON HOW WE'RE GOING
TO FIX THIS AND, YOU KNOW, BUT WE JUST -- WE HAVE TO SPEED
THINGS UP LIKE THIS BECAUSE WE GET LOST AND WE GET FRUSTRATED
PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROCESS. >> COUNCILMAN SMIGIEL, I THINK
THAT'S A GREAT CUE UP FOR US-I DON'T KNOW IF RON HAS THIS, BUT
WE ACTUALLY THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TRIED TO FILL A POSITION
OF A TRANSPORTATION AND STRATEGIC PLANNER POSITION.
WE FILLED IT, IT'S DAVE CONSUELO.
HE'S HAD 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. RON MENTIONED RAPID
IMPLEMENTATION. HE'S THE KIND OF PERSON THAT CAN
HELP US WITH THAT. HE'S BEEN IN FAIRFAX, CURRENTLY
HE'S BEEN DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION SERVICES FOR
LOUDON COUNTY, SO FAIRFAX, LOUDON COUNTY, VIRGINIA BEACH,
25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP US WITH
IMPLEMENTATION. IN OTHER WORDS, GETTING SOMEBODY
WHO'S BEEN AROUND IT FOR A QUARTER OF A CENTURY AND WE'RE
VERY, VERY PLEASED. HE WILL START IN JANUARY.
[ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ] >> THIS IS THE POSITION THAT
WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO RECRUIT FOR FOR, GOSH, ALMOST TWO YEARS NOW.
THE TRANSPORTATION AND STRATEGIC PLANNER, SO THIS IS WHAT WILL BE
ON HIS PLATE. IMPLEMENTATION.
>> I TELL YOU, TERRI MENTIONED IT ALREADY, THAT CLOSING THE
LANES -- I THINK THAT -- I WOULD HATE TO LOSE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK THAT'S KEY ON SEVERAL OF OUR STREETS, TO BE ABLE TO DO
THAT, AND THE CONNECTIONS THAT RUN NORTH-SOUTH ESPECIALLY, YOU
HAVE BERKLEY THERE, THAT'S HUGE DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU CLOSE THAT LANE AND -- THAT KIND OF STUFF SHOULDN'T GET OH
WAY. THE FOOD TRUCK ISSUE SHOULDN'T
GET AWAY. I THINK THAT AT TIMES THE
CHICKENS SHOULDN'T GET AWAY AND I THROW THOSE IN --
>> THEY'RE GONE. >> THEY SHOULDN'T BE.
>> IN THE ZONING YOU'RE CHANGING YOUR MIND --
>> I MEAN, THERE'S A WHOLE MAGAZINE ON -- SEVERAL MAGAZINES
ON CHICKEN HOBBY NOW, OKAY? WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT I'M
SAYING IS -- >> WHAT IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS
IS MOVING AHEAD. >> YEAH, MOVING AHEAD WHAT IS
I'M SAYING. >> YOU EITHER FIGURE IT OUT AND
GO WITH IT OR WHATEVER. >> IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLEASURE TO
SEE PEOPLE USING THE SHARE ROWS. THERE'S NOT A LARGE SECTION ON
OCEAN VIEW AVENUE, BUT THEY NOW PUT IT UP GRANBY STREET TO WARDS
CORNER AND I SEE PEOPLE EVERY MORNING GOING TO SCHOOL, IT
MIGHT ONLY BE ONE OR TWO, BUT I THINK OVER TIME WHEN PEOPLE
CATCH ON AND THEY REALIZE IT'S ACTUALLY SAFE TO DO IT, AND
DRIVERS LEARN HOW TO RESPECT THAT, I THINK IT'S --
>> THE KEY OF THAT IS GOING TO BE EDUCATION.
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.
[ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ] BUT I WOULD JUST -- I HAVE TO
THROW THIS OUT THERE BECAUSE I FEEL PASSIONATELY ABOUT THIS.
THE OFFSHOOT OF ALL THESE COMPLETE STREETS AND WALKABILITY
AND BIKABILITY, ANOTHER GOAL THAT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AND
THAT'S HEALTHY CITIZENS, AND WHEN I FIRST SAW COMPLETE
STREETS, I ACTUALLY WAS AT A CONFERENCE TALKING ABOUT
FIGHTING CHILDHOOD OBESITY, BUT IT'S THAT WHOLE PACKAGE AND IT'S
COMMUNITIES TOGETHER, FAMILIES TOGETHER, GETTING PEOPLE OUT
MOVING AND CONNECTING WITH EACH OTHER AND SO IT'S PRETTY NEAT
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND IT'S MORE THAN JUST TRANSPORTATION,
PER SE. IT REALLY IS BUILDING -- I THINK
IT'S A FABULOUS THING AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT RON HAD TO
SAY ABOUT THE FACT THAT DOING THINGS QUICKLY AND FAST, SMALL
STEPS CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
>> TERRI AND I, MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT
CLOSING GRANBY STREET, ONE SIDE OF GRANBY STREET FROM ONE END OF
THE CITY TO THE OTHER AND LETTING PEOPLE RIDE THEIR BIKES
UP AND DOWN AND GO OUT AND, I KNOW THE POLICE CHIEF IS OVER
THERE SAYING NO, BUT TO BRING ALL OF THE COMMUNITY -- I MEAN,
THERE'S ONE STREET THAT CONNECTS ALL OF OUR WARDS BASICALLY
TOGETHER IS GRANBY STREET, AND TO GET PEOPLE OUT CELEBRATING
NORFOLK THAT WAY. WE DID IT DOWNTOWN, SO LET'S
GROW IT. LET'S CONTINUE TO GROW IT.
>> YOU KNOW WE CLOSED IT ST. PATRICK'S DAY, CLOSED A GOOD
QUARTER. >> YES AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE
TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN ON WEEKENDS AND IMAGINE IF YOU CLOSE THE STREETS
IN DOWNTOWN AND BROUGHT PEOPLE DOWN THE WEEKENDS TOGETHER, IT
WOULD BE VERY NEAT. BOSTON CLOSES THEIR MAJOR
THOROUGHFARE ON WEEKENDS FOR BIKING.
IT'S THE BIGGEST ROAD, THE MOST IMPORTANT ROAD THEY HAVE IN
CAMBRIDGE. THEY CLOSE EVERY WEEKEND FOR
BIKERS. >> I THINK WE OUGHT TO GIVE IT A
SHOT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF PUSHBACK WE GET FROM
MERCHANTS. >> I THINK THEY WOULD BE
THRILLED. >> IF THEY WERE ENLIGHTENED,
THEY MIGHT BE, BUT SOME PEOPLE -- I KNOW WHEN WE TALKED
ABOUT CLOSING GRANBY STREET FOR THE IMAGINE THING, TERRI, YOU
WERE THE ONE THAT SAID PEOPLE WOULDN'T DO IT.
>> THAT WAS NOT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CLOSE THE
STREETS. THEY WANTED A BIGGER DEAL.
THEY WERE WORRIED THAT IT WASN'T WELL-ENOUGH PLANNED AND THEY
WERE WRONG BECAUSE IT WENT OFF WELL, BUT THEIR CONCERN WAS NOT
ABOUT CLOSING THE STREET. THEIR CONCERN WAS WE NEEDED TO
SPEND MORE TIME, BUT -- >> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT CLOSING
GRANBY STREET? >> NO, THAT'S NOT GET INTO THIS.
>> THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. >> WE HAVE LOTS OF THINGS TO DOS
ABOUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT LITTLE STEPS CAN BE DONE, THAT
IF DONE WELL, CAN MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
>> BUT I DID HEAR FROM OCEAN VIEW TO DOWNTOWN.
>> YEAH. ONE THING YOU COULD DO FOR AN
AFTERNOON. >> CELEBRATE IT ONE DAY.
>> ON A WEEKEND. >> GIVE IT A SHOT.
>> WHO KNOWS, ONE DAY IN THE SPRING, WHEN IT'S A GOOD DAY --
>> HELL, WE'RE TALKING CHICKENS, HELL, I'D PROBABLY CLOSE THE
ROAD. >> MAYBE THROW A RACE IN THERE.
[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> GET A BIKE RACE, A --
[ ALL SPEAKING AT ONCE ] >> ON THEIR THREE-WHEELERS OR
SOMETHING. >> CHICKEN RIBS YEAH.
>> WE STILL HAVE SOME STUFF TO COVER HERE.
MARCUS, IT'S ON YOU. WE'RE RUNNING LATE.
>> PLAYER AND YOU COUNCIL, THE NEXT COUPLE PRESENTATIONS ARE
PRETTY FAST, AND IF WE DON'T COVER ANY OF THEM, THEY CAN WAIT
UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. IF WE START TO RUN OUT OF TIME.
>> OKAY. >> GOOD EVENING.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN BUILD AND CONSTRUCTION
MANAGEMENT PROCUREMENT OPTIONS. CURRENTLY, THE CITY PROCURES OUR
CONSTRUCTION THROUGH THE TRADITIONAL PROCESS OF A DESIGN
BY ONE CONSULTANT AND WE BID IT OUT AND WARE THE CONSTRUCTION
CONTRACT TO THE LOW BIDDER. WE WANT TO DISCUSS TWO NEW
PROCESSES THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED UNDER STATE LAW FOR A FEW YEARS,
WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL FOR
US TO USE THEM AND THAT'S CALLED THE DESIGN BUILD AND
CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK. THE STATE PROCUREMENT CODE
ALLOWS FOR USE OF BOTH OF THESE METHODS AS PROCUREMENT METHODS
AND MODIFICATION OF THE CITY CODE WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR US TO
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM. THE TRADITIONAL PROCESS WE'VE
USED ON MOST CONSTRUCTION IS DESIGN, BID, BUILD.
USED AN ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, THE DESIGN IS DONE BY AN ARCHITECT
OR ENGINEERING CONSULTANT, THE PROJECT IS BID OUT AND AWARDED
TO THE LOWEST BIDDER. IN SOME CASES IT MAY BE
ADVANTAGEOUS TO USE SOME ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURES THAT HAVE
BEEN USED AT OTHER PLACES IN THE COMMONWEALTH AND AROUND THE
COUNTRY AND THE WORLD. THE FIRST ONE, DESIGN BUILD,
WHERE YOU HAVE A SINGLE CONTRACTOR WHO PERFORMS BOTH THE
DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.
TYPICALLY CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR OR AN
ARCHITECT-ENGINEERING FIRM WILL PARTNER TO DO THAT.
THE SECOND IS A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AT RISK, WHERE YOU
STILL HAVE THE CITY HIRING A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE DESIGN, BUT
THE CONTRACTOR IS SELECTED BASED ON MULTIPLE FACTORS, NOT JUST
THE LOW BID, BUT RACE BASE -- BASED ON OTHER FACTORS AND IS
RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSTRUCTION UNDER A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE
CONCEPT. THE COUNCIL COULD AMEND THE CITY
CODE TO ALLOW FOR THE USE OF DESIGN BUILD AND CM AT RISK ON
SELECTED PROJECTS. IT IS ALLOWED BY THE STATE CODE,
BUT IT REQUIRES US TO MODIFY OUR CITY CODE.
USE OF THESE METHODS WOULD BE ON ONLY SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND WOULD
REQUIRE CITY MANAGER APPROVAL AND WOULD REQUIRE SPECIFIC
WRITTEN PROCEDURES TO BE DEVELOPED FOR USE OF THOSE
METHODS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO MAKE
SURE THAT THIS WAS DONE SELECTIVELY AND WITH APPROPRIATE
CAUTION. A LITTLE MORE ON EACH OF THEM.
AGAIN, DESIGN BUILD, A SINGLE CONTRACTOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
THE ENTIRE PROJECT. THIS REDUCES THE POSSIBILITY OF
DESIGN CONFLICT ISSUES AND THE RESULTING CHANGE ORDERS.
THE SELECTION IS BASED ON QUALIFICATION MANY, EXPERIENCE
OF THE FIRM AS WELL AS PRICE. IT REQUIRES THE ESTABLISHMENT
AHEAD OF TIME OF DESIGN CRITERIA TO ESTABLISH QUALITY LEVELS AND
TYPICALLY A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE IS NEGOTIATED WITH SHARING
OF SAVINGS BELOW THE GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE.
THE MOST RECENT EXAMPLE THAT WE'VE HAD OF THAT IS NORFOLK
PUBLIC HEALTH FACILITY, THAT THE CITY BUILT WAS DONE UNDER THIS
METHOD AT THAT TIME, WE HAD SPECIFIC STATE AUTHORIZATION
JUST TO DO THAT ONE PROJECT USING DESIGN BUILD.
CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AT RISK, THE DESIGN IS DONE BY A SEPARATE
AME CONSULTANT. THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR IS
SELECTED BASED ON QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS PRICE
AND THEN THE CONTRACTOR BIDS OUT TO THE SUBCONTRACTOR.
TYPICALLY, AGAIN, A MAXIMUM GUARANTEED PRICE HAS SHARED
SAVINGS BELOW THAT PRICE. A CONTRACTOR CAN BE INVOLVED
EARLY IN THE DESIGN PROCESS TO APPROVE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTABILITY
AND PRICE. THAT'S ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF
BOTH OF THOSE METHODS IS THE EARLIER INVOLVEMENT OF THE
CONTRACTOR SO THEY CAN BE INVOLVED IN HELPING US FIND WAYS
TO DO THE PROJECT AT LOWER COST. ON CM AT RISK, THE CONTRACTOR
FEE IS FIXED SO THE CONTRACTOR HAS AN INCENTIVE TO CONTROL
COSTS. THE RECENT EXAMPLE OF THIS WAS
THE VIRGINIA BEACH CONVENTION CENTER WAS DONE USING CN AT
RISK. THE DESIGN BID BUILD, THE
TRADITIONAL MESSAGE, THE LOW BID IS ON A DESIGN PRODUCED BY THE
A&E. THE LOW BID PROCESS WITH RESULT
IN QUALITY CHALLENGES, AND ON THE OTHER HAND, THE LOW BID
PROCESS DOES PROVIDE THE ASSURANCE OF FAIRNESS AND
ECONOMY. WHEN USING THESE OTHER METHODS,
YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL AND IN FACT PROCEDURES REQUIRE THAT
THERE BE A DETERMINATION THAT THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE TO USING
SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE TRADITIONAL DESIGN-BID-BUILD
PROCESS. A RECOMMENDATION IS TO REVISE
THE CITY CODE TO USE THE DESIGN BUILD METHOD TO ALLOW THOSE TO
BE USED, BUT THE APPROVAL WOULD BE REQUIRED BY THE CITY MANAGER
AND THEY WOULD BE USED IN LIMITED CASES.
>> IS IT YOUR INTENTION THAT WE GET EITHER ONE OF THOSE TO
PRE-QUALIFY A GROUP OF CONTRACTORS THAT YOU WOULD
HAVE -- >> YOU ESSENTIALLY DO THAT.
YOU GO THROUGH A TWO-STEP PROCESS.
THE FIRST IS TO DETERMINE A GROUP OF CERTAIN FIRMS YOU WANT
TO DEAL WITH BASED ON THEIR QUALIFICATIONS.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY A PREQUALIFICATION, AND THEN
THERE'S A SECOND PHASE WHERE YOU GET INTO THE PRICING OF THE
PROJECT, SO YES, SIR, THAT'S WHAT YOU END UP DOING.
[ INAUDIBLE COMMENTS ] >> YES, SIR.
>> YOU HAVE TO PREQUALIFY USING THE SAME CRITERIA THEY'RE USING
NOW? >> I THINK THE PREQUALIFICATION
PROCESS, YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF DOING THAT AHEAD OF TIME RATHER
THAN DOING IT FOR EACH PROJECT. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BECAUSE OF
TIME, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE NOT TIME SENSITIVE.
I'D RECOMMEND IF WE COULD GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> MOVE THE MEMBERS IN CLOSED
MEETING ON NOVEMBER 13th, 2012, 6:30 P.M. PURSUANT TO CLAUSES
ONE AND THREE OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
MR. BURFOOT. >> AYE.
>> MR. PROTOGYROU. >> AYE.
>> MR. RIDDICK. >> AYE.
>> MR. SMIGIEL. >> AYE.
>> DR. WHIBLEY. >> AYE.
>> MS. WILLIAMS. >> AYE.
>> MR. WINN. >> AYE.
>> MR. FRAIM. >> AYE.
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