92% of Young Afghan Men Haven't Heard of 9/11; Free Membership Contest
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bjbj Announcer: The David Pakman Show at HYPERLINK "http://www.DavidPakman.com" www.DavidPakman.com
David: All right, we're back on the show. Coming up Thursday, Louis, we are going to
run our interview with Wendell Potter. I wish that I could pretend that it was actually
happening live; because of Wendell's schedule, we actually taped it earlier today. It is
a fascinating interview. Wendell Potter, of course, the former Cigna vice president of
corporate communications who essentially became a whistleblower about some of the practices
used by health insurance companies. The interview was incredible. We're going to post the full
thing up on our YouTube channel, and we'll also get to the... we'll get to a lot of it
on Thursday's show. On today's bonus show, a lot is going on. By the way, Louis on the
last bonus show told a story about a fight that he got into while he was bartending,
it's the most downloaded bonus show yet. People are absolutely loving it. Louis: You know,
you told me to come up with a good story, and that was just the first one I could think
of because it was recent, but there was a really good story that I could've told. David:
All right, well, we'll save it for... Louis: We'll save it. David: We'll save it for another
bonus show. Also today we'll talk about an atheist billboard that's making some people
angry, the epitome of a softball interview with Sarah Palin, stem cell breakthroughs,
and much more. Now, of course, to sign up, you go to www.DavidPakman.com/membership,
but we have an opportunity for you to win a free membership. So here is, we're going
to have a question here. Other than Massachusetts, which is our home state, which state has the
most David Pakman Show members? And if 50 people get it right, we'll give out 50 free
memberships, but the rule is you have to email us through our website, HYPERLINK "http://www.DavidPakman.com"
www.DavidPakman.com . YouTube comments don't count, Louis, signed letters with anthrax
in them don't count, it has to be in the email through HYPERLINK "http://www.DavidPakman.com"
www.DavidPakman.com . So we'll give it a week. Louis: Perhaps the question, though, could
be something more interesting. David: That's a good question, though. Other than Massachusetts,
which... Louis: That's pretty good. Like maybe, "How much did your haircut cost?" David: [Laughs]
All right. Louis: I think people would be surprised. David: Louis trying to work in
some of his new material that he'll use between songs at the next metal show, clearly. But
the question remains, other than Massachusetts, which state has the most members, David Pakman
Show members? Email us and we'll get to that. All right, Louis, do we want to get to our
Afghan, Afghani story? Louis: Yeah, that's a good one. David: So there was a finding,
there were some findings from a number of different polls, and there was a survey done
by the International Council on Security and Development. 92% of young Afghan men don't
even know about 9/11. This was done mostly in Helmand and Kandahar provinces, which really
is where a significant portion of young men are involved in the anti-United States insurgency
that has been keeping the U.S. busy there for a long time. So the country that produced
the 9/11 terror attacks has a population where apparently almost none of the people fighting
against the U.S. have even heard of the worst terror attack in U.S. history. Significant?
Louis: Maybe just a reflection of the teachings over there. David: Well, it's a reflection
of a lot of things. There's no media, there's no education in many cases. Louis: Lack of
media, of course. David: There is lack of literacy. But imagine not knowing about 9/11,
seeing that the U.S. soldiers are there, talk about motivation for insurgent actions. I
mean, we're trying to figure out how we can get the insurgency to die down 10 years after
9/11 happened, 9/11 has nothing to do with why 92% of those young Afghan men are fighting
against the U.S. Louis: Well, I suppose if I were trying to convince a young man to take
arms against U.S. soldiers, I would not include the fact that they might be there because
of an attack that happened on their soil, right? David: But suppression by the people
in charge of the insurgency, if there even are such people, I don't think that there
are, is not going to make it so 92% have simply never heard about 9/11. Louis: No. Yeah. It's
still a shocking number. David: I mean, has the near-constant warfare there for years
and years made it so people are just blocking out the truth, or do you think that fundamentally
the information has just not reached them? Louis: I think the latter is more likely.
David: The information's just not there. Louis: Sure, yeah. David: At this point, honestly,
once I started thinking about it, it's hard to even blame them. It's been 10 years since
9/11, and the people who actually did this from Afghanistan appear to be long gone. So
imagine you never found out that 9/11 is the reason the soldiers came in who knows how
many years ago at this point. It's been 10 years, and the people who actually perpetrated
the crime aren't even in your country anymore. I don't even know why we're there. But they've
never heard about 9/11. I've heard about 9/11, I still don't know why we're there. They're
fighting us because we are there. It doesn't have to do with 9/11, it doesn't have to do
with "they hate our freedom", as we hear so often. They barely even seem to know about
our freedom. Certainly don't know about 9/11. 60% said both that if the U.S. does leave,
the Taliban will take over, great, and that the local police are working with the Taliban.
So there is no end in sight here, clearly. There's no solution in sight, there is no
winning in sight. There's not even a definition of winning in sight. The question is whether
the U.S. should continue to be a part of a situation with no solution. 40% think NATO
forces are there to destroy Islam or Afghanistan. Continue building the house of cards, Louis.
It's been 10 years since the attacks they never heard of, which forced us to go there.
The people who perpetrated the attacks are gone from the country. And they believe, almost
half, that the reason we're even there is to destroy either their country or their religion.
Yeah, this one's going to go well. Louis: Damned if you do, damned if you don't. David:
Just another four years, Louis, like Obama and Biden are telling us, no more than four
more years. I think with that strategy, asking for four more years is going to become very
difficult for Barack Obama and Joe Biden. How can we possibly convince them to be on
our side, for lack of a better term, if they don't even know about 9/11? If they think
we're there to destroy their religion? There is no winning, is there, Louis? Louis: No.
I don't imagine there is. And the language barrier certainly doesn't help. David: Let's
get out. It's just, it's time to go. Let's just get out of there. Louis: Sure. I'll agree
with you on that. David: You're fine with that. Louis: That sounds OK to me. David:
Well, Louis is in favor of it. Louis: Of course, you know, you let Taliban take over, and let's
face it, that's not a good thing, but what choice do we really have? Announcer: The David
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David: All right, we're back on the show. Coming up Thursday, Louis, we are going to
run our interview with Wendell Potter. I wish that I could pretend that it was actually
happening live; because of Wendell's schedule, we actually taped it earlier today. It is
a fascinating interview. Wendell Potter, of course, the former Cigna vice president of
corporate communications who essentially became a whistleblower about some of the practices
used by health insurance companies. The interview was incredible. We're going to post the full
thing up on our YouTube channel, and we'll also get to the... we'll get to a lot of it
on Thursday's show. On today's bonus show, a lot is going on. By the way, Louis on the
last bonus show told a story about a fight that he got into while he was bartending,
it's the most downloaded bonus show yet. People are absolutely loving it. Louis: You know,
you told me to come up with a good story, and that was just the first one I could think
of because it was recent, but there was a really good story that I could've told. David:
All right, well, we'll save it for... Louis: We'll save it. David: We'll save it for another
bonus show. Also today we'll talk about an atheist billboard that's making some people
angry, the epitome of a softball interview with Sarah Palin, stem cell breakthroughs,
and much more. Now, of course, to sign up, you go to www.DavidPakman.com/membership,
but we have an opportunity for you to win a free membership. So here is, we're going
to have a question here. Other than Massachusetts, which is our home state, which state has the
most David Pakman Show members? And if 50 people get it right, we'll give out 50 free
memberships, but the rule is you have to email us through our website, HYPERLINK "http://www.DavidPakman.com"
www.DavidPakman.com . YouTube comments don't count, Louis, signed letters with anthrax
in them don't count, it has to be in the email through HYPERLINK "http://www.DavidPakman.com"
www.DavidPakman.com . So we'll give it a week. Louis: Perhaps the question, though, could
be something more interesting. David: That's a good question, though. Other than Massachusetts,
which... Louis: That's pretty good. Like maybe, "How much did your haircut cost?" David: [Laughs]
All right. Louis: I think people would be surprised. David: Louis trying to work in
some of his new material that he'll use between songs at the next metal show, clearly. But
the question remains, other than Massachusetts, which state has the most members, David Pakman
Show members? Email us and we'll get to that. All right, Louis, do we want to get to our
Afghan, Afghani story? Louis: Yeah, that's a good one. David: So there was a finding,
there were some findings from a number of different polls, and there was a survey done
by the International Council on Security and Development. 92% of young Afghan men don't
even know about 9/11. This was done mostly in Helmand and Kandahar provinces, which really
is where a significant portion of young men are involved in the anti-United States insurgency
that has been keeping the U.S. busy there for a long time. So the country that produced
the 9/11 terror attacks has a population where apparently almost none of the people fighting
against the U.S. have even heard of the worst terror attack in U.S. history. Significant?
Louis: Maybe just a reflection of the teachings over there. David: Well, it's a reflection
of a lot of things. There's no media, there's no education in many cases. Louis: Lack of
media, of course. David: There is lack of literacy. But imagine not knowing about 9/11,
seeing that the U.S. soldiers are there, talk about motivation for insurgent actions. I
mean, we're trying to figure out how we can get the insurgency to die down 10 years after
9/11 happened, 9/11 has nothing to do with why 92% of those young Afghan men are fighting
against the U.S. Louis: Well, I suppose if I were trying to convince a young man to take
arms against U.S. soldiers, I would not include the fact that they might be there because
of an attack that happened on their soil, right? David: But suppression by the people
in charge of the insurgency, if there even are such people, I don't think that there
are, is not going to make it so 92% have simply never heard about 9/11. Louis: No. Yeah. It's
still a shocking number. David: I mean, has the near-constant warfare there for years
and years made it so people are just blocking out the truth, or do you think that fundamentally
the information has just not reached them? Louis: I think the latter is more likely.
David: The information's just not there. Louis: Sure, yeah. David: At this point, honestly,
once I started thinking about it, it's hard to even blame them. It's been 10 years since
9/11, and the people who actually did this from Afghanistan appear to be long gone. So
imagine you never found out that 9/11 is the reason the soldiers came in who knows how
many years ago at this point. It's been 10 years, and the people who actually perpetrated
the crime aren't even in your country anymore. I don't even know why we're there. But they've
never heard about 9/11. I've heard about 9/11, I still don't know why we're there. They're
fighting us because we are there. It doesn't have to do with 9/11, it doesn't have to do
with "they hate our freedom", as we hear so often. They barely even seem to know about
our freedom. Certainly don't know about 9/11. 60% said both that if the U.S. does leave,
the Taliban will take over, great, and that the local police are working with the Taliban.
So there is no end in sight here, clearly. There's no solution in sight, there is no
winning in sight. There's not even a definition of winning in sight. The question is whether
the U.S. should continue to be a part of a situation with no solution. 40% think NATO
forces are there to destroy Islam or Afghanistan. Continue building the house of cards, Louis.
It's been 10 years since the attacks they never heard of, which forced us to go there.
The people who perpetrated the attacks are gone from the country. And they believe, almost
half, that the reason we're even there is to destroy either their country or their religion.
Yeah, this one's going to go well. Louis: Damned if you do, damned if you don't. David:
Just another four years, Louis, like Obama and Biden are telling us, no more than four
more years. I think with that strategy, asking for four more years is going to become very
difficult for Barack Obama and Joe Biden. How can we possibly convince them to be on
our side, for lack of a better term, if they don't even know about 9/11? If they think
we're there to destroy their religion? There is no winning, is there, Louis? Louis: No.
I don't imagine there is. And the language barrier certainly doesn't help. David: Let's
get out. It's just, it's time to go. Let's just get out of there. Louis: Sure. I'll agree
with you on that. David: You're fine with that. Louis: That sounds OK to me. David:
Well, Louis is in favor of it. Louis: Of course, you know, you let Taliban take over, and let's
face it, that's not a good thing, but what choice do we really have? Announcer: The David
Pakman Show at www Guerreiro Chavier Marisel Normal Guerreiro Chavier Marisel Microsoft
Office Word Windows uE Announcer: The David Pakman Show at www tulo _PID_HLINKS Documento
Microsoft Office Word MSWordDoc Word.Document.8