Arizona Illustrated - November 27, 2012


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>>> GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO "ARIZONA ILLUSTRATED"
 
WELCOME TO "ARIZONA ILLUSTRATED" FOR TUESDAY, THE 27th OF
 
FOR TUESDAY, THE 27th OF NOVEMBER, 2012.
 
NOVEMBER, 2012. I'M TONY PANIAGUA.
 
I'M TONY PANIAGUA. THE SON OF COTTON FARMERS IN
 
THE SON OF COTTON FARMERS IN ALABAMA EVENTUALLY WENT TO LAW
 
ALABAMA EVENTUALLY WENT TO LAW SCHOOL IN LIFE IN BUSINESS
 
SCHOOL IN LIFE IN BUSINESS BEFORE ESTABLISHING AN
 
BEFORE ESTABLISHING AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS BEEN
 
ORGANIZATION THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON BEHALF OF CIVIL
 
WORKING ON BEHALF OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR DECADES.
 
RIGHTS FOR DECADES. TONIGHT, WE BRING YOU AN
 
TONIGHT, WE BRING YOU AN INTERVIEW WITH THE FOUNDER AND
 
INTERVIEW WITH THE FOUNDER AND CHIEF TRIAL ATTORNEY OF THE
 
CHIEF TRIAL ATTORNEY OF THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER.
 
SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER. MORRIS DEES SPOKE AT THE COLLEGE
 
MORRIS DEES SPOKE AT THE COLLEGE OF LAW DURING A VISIT TO TUCSON
 
OF LAW DURING A VISIT TO TUCSON EARLIER THIS MONTH.
 
EARLIER THIS MONTH. >> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
 
>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. >> GLAD TO BE HERE.
 
>> GLAD TO BE HERE. >> WHAT DOES THE NAME MISSION OF
 
>> WHAT DOES THE NAME MISSION OF SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER.
 
SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER. >> WE STARTED DOING CIVIL RIGHTS
 
>> WE STARTED DOING CIVIL RIGHTS WORK.
 
WORK. WE WERE SEEKING JUSTICE WHEN THE
 
WE WERE SEEKING JUSTICE WHEN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WAS JUST
 
CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WAS JUST ENDING.
 
ENDING. WE ADDED ON A PROGRAM TO TRY
 
WE ADDED ON A PROGRAM TO TRY HATE GROUPS.
 
HATE GROUPS. WE SAW A RISE IN HATE GROUPS SO
 
WE SAW A RISE IN HATE GROUPS SO THAT MISSION WAS FIGHTING HATE.
 
THAT MISSION WAS FIGHTING HATE. WE FILED LAWSUITS ALL OVER THE
 
WE FILED LAWSUITS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, IN OREGON, IDAHO, AND
 
COUNTRY, IN OREGON, IDAHO, AND THE SOUTH.
 
THE SOUTH. DIFFERENT GROUPS HARMING PEOPLE,
 
DIFFERENT GROUPS HARMING PEOPLE, MINORITI
 
MINORITI MINORITIES.
 
MINORITIES. AND THE LAST MISSION, TEACHING
 
AND THE LAST MISSION, TEACHING ACCEPTANCE AND TOLERANCE.
 
ACCEPTANCE AND TOLERANCE. A LOT OF CRIMES COMMITTED BY
 
A LOT OF CRIMES COMMITTED BY YOUNG PEOPLE, HATE GROUPS AND
 
YOUNG PEOPLE, HATE GROUPS AND OTHERS WERE COMMITTED -- IF THEY
 
OTHERS WERE COMMITTED -- IF THEY WERE REACHED WITH A MESSAGE OF
 
WERE REACHED WITH A MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE AND ACCEPTANCE, THEY
 
TOLERANCE AND ACCEPTANCE, THEY MIGHT NOT BECOME HATERS.
 
MIGHT NOT BECOME HATERS. >> WHAT INSPIRED TO GET INVOLVED
 
>> WHAT INSPIRED TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS AREA OF SOCIAL LIFE?
 
IN THIS AREA OF SOCIAL LIFE? WHY NOT JUST RELAX AND MAKE
 
WHY NOT JUST RELAX AND MAKE MONEY?
 
MONEY? >> WE WENT ON AND FORMED HABITAT
 
>> WE WENT ON AND FORMED HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, WE PUBLISHED
 
FOR HUMANITY, WE PUBLISHED COOKBOOKS.
 
COOKBOOKS. WE ARE THE LARGEST PUBLISHER OF
 
WE ARE THE LARGEST PUBLISHER OF COOKBOOKS IN AMERICA.
 
COOKBOOKS IN AMERICA. AND HE WENT ON TO FORM HABITAT
 
AND HE WENT ON TO FORM HABITAT AND I WENT ON TO FORM SOUTHERN
 
AND I WENT ON TO FORM SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW.
 
POVERTY LAW. I HAVE BEEN A LAWYER MY WHOLE
 
I HAVE BEEN A LAWYER MY WHOLE LIFE IN TERMS OF MY FEELINGS.
 
LIFE IN TERMS OF MY FEELINGS. WHEN I SOLD MY COMPANY, I
 
WHEN I SOLD MY COMPANY, I CONTINUED WHAT I HAD BEEN DOING
 
CONTINUED WHAT I HAD BEEN DOING AT THE COMPANY.
 
AT THE COMPANY. I FILED SUITS TO INTEGRATE
 
I FILED SUITS TO INTEGRATE THINGS BEFORE I EVER FOUNDED THE
 
THINGS BEFORE I EVER FOUNDED THE LAW CENTER.
 
LAW CENTER. IT WAS A GOOD CHANCE TO GET SOME
 
IT WAS A GOOD CHANCE TO GET SOME MONEY ASIDE AND MOVE ON.
 
MONEY ASIDE AND MOVE ON. I USED ANOTHER SCHOOL -- ALL MY
 
I USED ANOTHER SCHOOL -- ALL MY BOOKS WERE SOLD BY MAIL.
 
BOOKS WERE SOLD BY MAIL. BIG DIRECT MAIL SALE OF BOOKS AT
 
BIG DIRECT MAIL SALE OF BOOKS AT THAT TIME, SO I UNDERSTOOD
 
THAT TIME, SO I UNDERSTOOD DIRECT MAIL, AND IN ORDER TO FUN
 
DIRECT MAIL, AND IN ORDER TO FUN THE POVERTY LAW CENTER, WRAECHED
 
THE POVERTY LAW CENTER, WRAECHED OUT TO MILLIONS OF AMERICANS
 
OUT TO MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH DIRECT
 
ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH DIRECT MAIL APPEALS AND WE HAVE ABOUT
 
MAIL APPEALS AND WE HAVE ABOUT 350,000 PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT OUR
 
350,000 PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT OUR 200 OR SO EMPLOYEES AND 43
 
200 OR SO EMPLOYEES AND 43 LAWYERS.
 
LAWYERS. >> WHAT INSPIRED YOU FROM A
 
>> WHAT INSPIRED YOU FROM A PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE?
 
PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE? SOME KIND OF AWAKENING?
 
SOME KIND OF AWAKENING? JUST NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU
 
JUST NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU WERE SEEING?
 
WERE SEEING? >> I GREW UP ON A SMALL COTTON
 
>> I GREW UP ON A SMALL COTTON FARM, AND MY DAD, YOU KNOW, IN
 
FARM, AND MY DAD, YOU KNOW, IN THE FIELDS, AND I LEARNED THAT
 
THE FIELDS, AND I LEARNED THAT BLACK PEOPLE, AFRICAN-AMERICANS,
 
BLACK PEOPLE, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
 
YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE. AND I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO
 
AND I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GOLD G. TO LAW SCHOOL, WENT TO A
 
GOLD G. TO LAW SCHOOL, WENT TO A SEGREGATED SCHOOL, AND I WAS
 
SEGREGATED SCHOOL, AND I WAS ABLE TO GET OUT AND OPEN MY LAW
 
ABLE TO GET OUT AND OPEN MY LAW PRACTICE, AND I DIDN'T GET ANY
 
PRACTICE, AND I DIDN'T GET ANY BUSINESS FROM THE RICH FOLKS.
 
BUSINESS FROM THE RICH FOLKS. THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO I WAS.
 
THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO I WAS. THE PEOPLE I KNEW CAME TO SEE
 
THE PEOPLE I KNEW CAME TO SEE ME.
 
ME. ONE GUY CAME IN, WANTED TO BE A
 
ONE GUY CAME IN, WANTED TO BE A STATE TROOPER.
 
STATE TROOPER. 150 WHITE TROOPERS, NO BLACKS,
 
150 WHITE TROOPERS, NO BLACKS, AND I FILED A LAWSUIT THAT
 
AND I FILED A LAWSUIT THAT INTEGRATED ALABAMA STATE
 
INTEGRATED ALABAMA STATE TROOPERS THE FIRST TIME AND THAT
 
TROOPERS THE FIRST TIME AND THAT WAS A FEW YEARS AFTER GEORGE
 
WAS A FEW YEARS AFTER GEORGE WALLACE USED THEM TO BEAT THE
 
WALLACE USED THEM TO BEAT THE MARCHERS UP.
 
MARCHERS UP. THE SOUTH HAS REALLY CHANGED,
 
THE SOUTH HAS REALLY CHANGED, QUITE HONESTLY.
 
QUITE HONESTLY. A LOT OF PREJUDICE WE USED TO
 
A LOT OF PREJUDICE WE USED TO HAVE IN THE SOUTH, WE SEE THAT
 
HAVE IN THE SOUTH, WE SEE THAT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
 
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND THE WORK IS PRETTY WELL
 
AND THE WORK IS PRETTY WELL ACCEPTED IN THE SOUTH.
 
ACCEPTED IN THE SOUTH. YOU LOOK AT THE LAST
 
YOU LOOK AT THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, YOU WILL
 
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, YOU WILL SEE THAT A LOT OF -- I'LL CALL
 
SEE THAT A LOT OF -- I'LL CALL IT RACISM, I'LL BE HONEST WITH
 
IT RACISM, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, AROUND THE COUNTRY.
 
YOU, AROUND THE COUNTRY. PRESIDENT OBAMA GOT REALLY LESS
 
PRESIDENT OBAMA GOT REALLY LESS THAN 35% OR SO OF THE WHITE VOTE
 
THAN 35% OR SO OF THE WHITE VOTE IN MOST OF THE OLD CONFEDERATE
 
IN MOST OF THE OLD CONFEDERATE STATES AND ALL THROUGH THE
 
STATES AND ALL THROUGH THE MIDWEST.
 
MIDWEST. AND I -- I THINK WOULD YOU HAVE
 
AND I -- I THINK WOULD YOU HAVE TO ATTRIBUTE THAT TO HIS RACE.
 
TO ATTRIBUTE THAT TO HIS RACE. I THINK BILL CLINTON HAD RUNNING
 
I THINK BILL CLINTON HAD RUNNING AT THIS TIME, HE HAD DONE
 
AT THIS TIME, HE HAD DONE ESSENTIALLY BETTER SO WE GOT A
 
ESSENTIALLY BETTER SO WE GOT A LOT TO OVERCOME, AND THAT'S WHAT
 
LOT TO OVERCOME, AND THAT'S WHAT HAS GOT AMERICA SO ALARMED,
 
HAS GOT AMERICA SO ALARMED, RACIAL DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE.
 
RACIAL DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGE. THIS STATE HAS ABOUT 37% LATINOS
 
THIS STATE HAS ABOUT 37% LATINOS AND BLACKS COMBINED AND BY THE
 
AND BLACKS COMBINED AND BY THE YEAR 2040, THIS YEAR WILL HAVE
 
YEAR 2040, THIS YEAR WILL HAVE 25% OF LATINOS, AND PEOPLE LIKE
 
25% OF LATINOS, AND PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF, WE'LL BE IN A BIG
 
MYSELF, WE'LL BE IN A BIG MAJORITY.
 
MAJORITY. AMERICA WILL HAVE A MAJORITY OF
 
AMERICA WILL HAVE A MAJORITY OF MINORS BY 2040.
 
MINORS BY 2040. THIS ELECTION WAS BELLWETHER FOR
 
THIS ELECTION WAS BELLWETHER FOR THAT.
 
THAT. IT SHOWS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
 
IT SHOWS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE PUT THEIR VOTES TOGETHER.
 
PEOPLE PUT THEIR VOTES TOGETHER. THEY DIDN'T ABANDON.
 
THEY DIDN'T ABANDON. AND YOU HAVE THE COALITION OF
 
AND YOU HAVE THE COALITION OF WOMEN AND ALL THE WOMEN'S
 
WOMEN AND ALL THE WOMEN'S ISSUES, GAY/LESBIAN ISSUES, POOR
 
ISSUES, GAY/LESBIAN ISSUES, POOR PEOPLE'S ISSUES, PUT THEM
 
PEOPLE'S ISSUES, PUT THEM TOGETHER, THAT'S WHAT THE
 
TOGETHER, THAT'S WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT I GREW UP
 
DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT I GREW UP WITH, FRANKLIN RULE SVELTE SAVED
 
WITH, FRANKLIN RULE SVELTE SAVED US, AND THEY PAINTED THEMSELVES
 
US, AND THEY PAINTED THEMSELVES TO A REALLY BAD HOLE.
 
TO A REALLY BAD HOLE. >> DEMOGRAPHICS WILL CONTINUE TO
 
>> DEMOGRAPHICS WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE.
 
CHANGE. MORE DIVERSE.
 
MORE DIVERSE. >> NO QUESTION.
 
>> NO QUESTION. MY PEOPLE CAME FROM IRELAND, AND
 
MY PEOPLE CAME FROM IRELAND, AND THEY COULDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH,
 
THEY COULDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH, TORTURED US IN BOSTON, HUNG OUT
 
TORTURED US IN BOSTON, HUNG OUT LATINOS -- I MEAN -- GET IT
 
LATINOS -- I MEAN -- GET IT STRAIGHT.
 
STRAIGHT. HUNG OUR PEOPLE THERE, IS SAYING
 
HUNG OUR PEOPLE THERE, IS SAYING THAT THEY WERE TAKEN AMERICAN
 
THAT THEY WERE TAKEN AMERICAN JOBS, SOUND FAMILIAR, RIGHT?
 
JOBS, SOUND FAMILIAR, RIGHT? AND, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK A WHILE
 
AND, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK A WHILE FOR OUR PEOPLE TO BECOME
 
FOR OUR PEOPLE TO BECOME ACCEPTED AND I SAID IN 1860,
 
ACCEPTED AND I SAID IN 1860, THAT ONE OF OUR ANCESTORS WILL
 
THAT ONE OF OUR ANCESTORS WILL BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
 
BECOME PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I WOULD HAVE BEEN BOOED
 
STATES, I WOULD HAVE BEEN BOOED OFF THE STAGE, BUT I PREDICTED
 
OFF THE STAGE, BUT I PREDICTED BEFORE THIS CENTURY IS OVER, YOU
 
BEFORE THIS CENTURY IS OVER, YOU WILL SEE A LATINO PRESIDENT OF
 
WILL SEE A LATINO PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
 
THE UNITED STATES. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, JUST
 
IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, JUST REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN.
 
REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN. >> AND YOU THINK THE UNITED
 
>> AND YOU THINK THE UNITED STATES WILL REACH A POINT WHERE
 
STATES WILL REACH A POINT WHERE PEOPLE REALLY ARE REFERRED TO AS
 
PEOPLE REALLY ARE REFERRED TO AS COLOR BLIND.
 
COLOR BLIND. THEY SIGH A PERSON AS OPPOSED TO
 
THEY SIGH A PERSON AS OPPOSED TO ETHNICITY?
 
ETHNICITY? >> COLOR BLIND SCIENCE NOT A
 
>> COLOR BLIND SCIENCE NOT A GOOD IDEA QUITE HONESTLY.
 
GOOD IDEA QUITE HONESTLY. WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THE
 
WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THE DIFFERENCES AMONG PEOPLE AND
 
DIFFERENCES AMONG PEOPLE AND BUILD ON THOSE DIFFERENCES.
 
BUILD ON THOSE DIFFERENCES. BECAUSE YOU FIRST -- YOU LOOK AT
 
BECAUSE YOU FIRST -- YOU LOOK AT THEIR BACKGROUND, CULTURE, RACE,
 
THEIR BACKGROUND, CULTURE, RACE, VERY SIGNIFICANT.
 
VERY SIGNIFICANT. AND I -- I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,
 
AND I -- I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, COLOR BLIND SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD
 
COLOR BLIND SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD CONCEPT, BUT I THINK THERE WILL
 
CONCEPT, BUT I THINK THERE WILL BE A TIME WHERE PEOPLE ARE MORE
 
BE A TIME WHERE PEOPLE ARE MORE ABLE TO JOIN TOGETHER.
 
ABLE TO JOIN TOGETHER. WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE USES AND
 
WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE USES AND THEMES, AND THOSE USES AND
 
THEMES, AND THOSE USES AND THEMES MAY CHANGE, IN AREAS THAT
 
THEMES MAY CHANGE, IN AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BECOME 80 PERZ
 
ARE GOING TO BECOME 80 PERZ LATINO, AND THEN HOPEFULLY THEY
 
LATINO, AND THEN HOPEFULLY THEY WILL VOTE FOR NONLATINOS.
 
WILL VOTE FOR NONLATINOS. THEY MAY NOT.
 
THEY MAY NOT. IN THE SOUTH, WE ARE SEEING
 
IN THE SOUTH, WE ARE SEEING AREAS 60% AND 70% AFRICAN MESH
 
AREAS 60% AND 70% AFRICAN MESH AND THEY WON'T ELECT A WHITE.
 
AND THEY WON'T ELECT A WHITE. WHITES WOULDN'T ELECT A BLACK
 
WHITES WOULDN'T ELECT A BLACK BACK THEN SO, YOU KNOW, TWO
 
BACK THEN SO, YOU KNOW, TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT.
 
WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT. WE'LL BUILD BRIDGES ACROSS THOSE
 
WE'LL BUILD BRIDGES ACROSS THOSE DIVIDES THAT SEPARATE US, AND
 
DIVIDES THAT SEPARATE US, AND SHARE POWER, WE'VE GOT TO ACCEPT
 
SHARE POWER, WE'VE GOT TO ACCEPT PEOPLE BASED UPON ON THEIR
 
PEOPLE BASED UPON ON THEIR CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER
 
CONTENT OF THEIR CHARACTER RATHER THAN THE COLOR OF THEIR
 
RATHER THAN THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN AS DR. KING SAID.
 
SKIN AS DR. KING SAID. >> US AND THEM, FOR SOME IT
 
>> US AND THEM, FOR SOME IT WASN'T DISCUSS THEM.
 
WASN'T DISCUSS THEM. MALES VOTING ONE WAY, FEMALES
 
MALES VOTING ONE WAY, FEMALES VOTING A DIFFERENT WAY.
 
VOTING A DIFFERENT WAY. >> I THINK IN AMERICA,
 
>> I THINK IN AMERICA, FAMILIES -- WRITE BOOKS.
 
FAMILIES -- WRITE BOOKS. FAMILIES, AND MY OWN FAMILY, I
 
FAMILIES, AND MY OWN FAMILY, I KNOW, SOME OF MY RELATIVES AND
 
KNOW, SOME OF MY RELATIVES AND CLOSE RELATIVES, VOTED FOR
 
CLOSE RELATIVES, VOTED FOR OBAMA, AND IT'S HARD -- IT'S
 
OBAMA, AND IT'S HARD -- IT'S HARD TO ARGUE RELIGION, BUT I
 
HARD TO ARGUE RELIGION, BUT I WAS SAYING YOU VOTED AGAINST
 
WAS SAYING YOU VOTED AGAINST YOUR OWN BEST INTERESTS, YOU
 
YOUR OWN BEST INTERESTS, YOU KNOW, I'M FINANCIALLY WELL OFF,
 
KNOW, I'M FINANCIALLY WELL OFF, I HAD A BIG COMPANY, SOLD MY
 
I HAD A BIG COMPANY, SOLD MY COMPANY.
 
COMPANY. I THINK THAT I VOTED FOR ROMNEY.
 
I THINK THAT I VOTED FOR ROMNEY. HISTORICALLY, THOSE PEOPLE MOST
 
HISTORICALLY, THOSE PEOPLE MOST PROSPEROUS OF PEOPLE WHO
 
PROSPEROUS OF PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED THE DEMOCRATIC
 
SUPPORTED THE DEMOCRATIC CONCEPTS.
 
CONCEPTS. THINGS TRICKLE UP, NOT DOWN, AND
 
THINGS TRICKLE UP, NOT DOWN, AND THE PUBLIC GOT IT THIS TIME, AND
 
THE PUBLIC GOT IT THIS TIME, AND WE WILL HAVE FOUR YEARS OF
 
WE WILL HAVE FOUR YEARS OF PROGRESS.
 
PROGRESS. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE -- THE
 
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE -- THE ORGANIZATIONS OF THE PROGRAMS
 
ORGANIZATIONS OF THE PROGRAMS HAVE YOU AS PART OF THE SOUTHERN
 
HAVE YOU AS PART OF THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER, INTELLIGENCE
 
POVERTY LAW CENTER, INTELLIGENCE PROJECT BEGAN IN 1980, WHAT IS
 
PROJECT BEGAN IN 1980, WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT?
 
THAT ALL ABOUT? >> THE INTELLIGENCE PROJECT
 
>> THE INTELLIGENCE PROJECT TRACKS HATE GROUPS, THE BEST WE
 
TRACKS HATE GROUPS, THE BEST WE CAN.
 
CAN. THEY DON'T REGISTER WITH THE
 
THEY DON'T REGISTER WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SO YOU
 
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SO YOU DON'T KNOW THEIR GROUPS AND
 
DON'T KNOW THEIR GROUPS AND MEMBERS, WE TRACK THEM, AND
 
MEMBERS, WE TRACK THEM, AND THERE'S A STRONG RISE IN HATE
 
THERE'S A STRONG RISE IN HATE GROUPS SINCE OBAMA BECAME
 
GROUPS SINCE OBAMA BECAME PRESIDENT, DOUBLED ALMOST TO UP
 
PRESIDENT, DOUBLED ALMOST TO UP TO OVER 1,000 OVER THE COUNTRY
 
TO OVER 1,000 OVER THE COUNTRY AND VIJ RANTY GROUPS AND MIDDLE
 
AND VIJ RANTY GROUPS AND MIDDLE ISSUE GROUPS, AND IT'S A BIG
 
ISSUE GROUPS, AND IT'S A BIG EXPLOSION, SO WE TRACK, KEEP UM
 
EXPLOSION, SO WE TRACK, KEEP UM WITH THEM AND WE REPORT ON THEM,
 
WITH THEM AND WE REPORT ON THEM, WRITE ABOUT THEM, DO
 
WRITE ABOUT THEM, DO DOCUMENTARIES TO EDUCATE THE
 
DOCUMENTARIES TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
 
PUBLIC AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND WE FILE LAWSUITS AGAINST HATE
 
WE FILE LAWSUITS AGAINST HATE GROUPS.
 
GROUPS. USING DATA THAT WE'VE GATHERED,
 
USING DATA THAT WE'VE GATHERED, DON'T VIOLATE ANYBODY'S
 
DON'T VIOLATE ANYBODY'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
 
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. INFORMATION WAS THERE.
 
INFORMATION WAS THERE. CLOSE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
 
CLOSE TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND BEEN ABLE TO BANKRUPT SOME OF
 
BEEN ABLE TO BANKRUPT SOME OF THE LARGEST HATE YOUPZ GROUPS I
 
THE LARGEST HATE YOUPZ GROUPS I AMERICA.
 
AMERICA. IN THE LAST 15 OR 20 YEARS, 9 OR
 
IN THE LAST 15 OR 20 YEARS, 9 OR 10 MAJOR CASES, THAT'S A BIG
 
10 MAJOR CASES, THAT'S A BIG FOCUS OF OUR WORK AND ONE THAT I
 
FOCUS OF OUR WORK AND ONE THAT I THINK I'M PROBABLY THE MOST
 
THINK I'M PROBABLY THE MOST PROUD OF.
 
PROUD OF. >> ANOTHER PROGRAM, IN 1990,
 
>> ANOTHER PROGRAM, IN 1990, TEACHING TOLERANCE.
 
TEACHING TOLERANCE. WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT?
 
WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT? >> WELL, I SAW WHEN WE SAW THESE
 
>> WELL, I SAW WHEN WE SAW THESE HATE GROUPS, I LOOKED AT THE
 
HATE GROUPS, I LOOKED AT THE YOUNG PEOPLE COMMITTING HATE
 
YOUNG PEOPLE COMMITTING HATE CRIMES, NOT THE OLD GUYS,
 
CRIMES, NOT THE OLD GUYS, BURNING A BLACK CHURCH, DOING
 
BURNING A BLACK CHURCH, DOING SOMETHING, AND I THOUGHT TO
 
SOMETHING, AND I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WE REACH THOSE PEOPLE,
 
MYSELF, WE REACH THOSE PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT STUPID, THEY ARE
 
THAT'S NOT STUPID, THEY ARE SMART.
 
SMART. LOOKING FOR RECOGNITION IN THE
 
LOOKING FOR RECOGNITION IN THE GROUPS, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING
 
GROUPS, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO PLEASE THE OLD ONES, YOU CAN
 
TO PLEASE THE OLD ONES, YOU CAN GET TO THEM, A BOY SCOUT LEADER
 
GET TO THEM, A BOY SCOUT LEADER GOT TO THEM, OR COMMUNITY GROUP
 
GOT TO THEM, OR COMMUNITY GROUP OR WHATEVER, THEY WILL HAVE A
 
OR WHATEVER, THEY WILL HAVE A BETTER SHOT AT IT, AND YOU HAVE
 
BETTER SHOT AT IT, AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, 97% OF ALL HATE
 
TO UNDERSTAND, 97% OF ALL HATE CRIMES IN AMERICA, ARE NOT
 
CRIMES IN AMERICA, ARE NOT COMMITTED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE PART
 
COMMITTED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF HATE GROUPS, IT'S JUST YOUR
 
OF HATE GROUPS, IT'S JUST YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, SOMEBODY
 
NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, SOMEBODY GOING OUT BEANER HOPPING IN LONG
 
GOING OUT BEANER HOPPING IN LONG ISLAND, NEW YORK.
 
ISLAND, NEW YORK. MEANING BEAT UP A LATINO.
 
MEANING BEAT UP A LATINO. AND FIVE BOYS DID IT.
 
AND FIVE BOYS DID IT. THEY COULDN'T FIND A HATE GROUP
 
THEY COULDN'T FIND A HATE GROUP IF THEY WANTED TO.
 
IF THEY WANTED TO. WE WANT TO GET OUR MESSAGE OF
 
WE WANT TO GET OUR MESSAGE OF TOLERANCE AND ACCEPTANCE OUT
 
TOLERANCE AND ACCEPTANCE OUT ACROSS SCHOOLS.
 
ACROSS SCHOOLS. ALL OF THE PROGRAMS FUNDED BY
 
ALL OF THE PROGRAMS FUNDED BY THE APPROXIMATE 3 50,000, 4
 
THE APPROXIMATE 3 50,000, 4 00,000 THAT THE SOUTHERN POVERTY
 
00,000 THAT THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER HAS.
 
LAW CENTER HAS. >> WHAT KEEPS YOU GOING?
 
>> WHAT KEEPS YOU GOING? YOU ARE IN YOUR MID 70s.
 
YOU ARE IN YOUR MID 70s. YOU COULD BE PLAYING GOLF,
 
YOU COULD BE PLAYING GOLF, ENJOYING RELAXING MOMENTS.
 
ENJOYING RELAXING MOMENTS. YOU KEEP WORKING.
 
YOU KEEP WORKING. >> I ENJOY MY WORK.
 
>> I ENJOY MY WORK. I'M A FARMER, I STILL HAVE A
 
I'M A FARMER, I STILL HAVE A FARM, NOT AS ACTIVE AS IT WAS,
 
FARM, NOT AS ACTIVE AS IT WAS, BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN A FARMER
 
BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN A FARMER QUIT FARMING, THEY JUST DROP
 
QUIT FARMING, THEY JUST DROP BEHIND THE PLOW SO TO SPEAK.
 
BEHIND THE PLOW SO TO SPEAK. AND AS A LAWYER, I HAVE 43
 
AND AS A LAWYER, I HAVE 43 LAWYERS, AND A SITUATION NOW
 
LAWYERS, AND A SITUATION NOW THAT I CAN KIND OF GUIDE THEM ON
 
THAT I CAN KIND OF GUIDE THEM ON NEW PROJECTS AND IDEAS AND
 
NEW PROJECTS AND IDEAS AND MOTIVATE THEM AND TRY TO TEACH
 
MOTIVATE THEM AND TRY TO TEACH SOME OF THE YOUNG LAWYERS.
 
SOME OF THE YOUNG LAWYERS. THAT'S WHAT KEEPS ME YOUNG, AND
 
THAT'S WHAT KEEPS ME YOUNG, AND ALL MY GRANDKIDS, I WOULDN'T BE
 
ALL MY GRANDKIDS, I WOULDN'T BE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER OCCUPATION
 
LOOKING FOR ANOTHER OCCUPATION OR A JOB.
 
OR A JOB. I ENJOY MY HOBBIES, JUST GOT
 
I ENJOY MY HOBBIES, JUST GOT THROUGH TOURING UTAH AND ARIZONA
 
THROUGH TOURING UTAH AND ARIZONA ON MY MOTORCYCLE.
 
ON MY MOTORCYCLE. I GOT A LOT GOING ON.
 
I GOT A LOT GOING ON. >> AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE HAD
 
>> AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES ALONG THE WAY
 
SOME DIFFICULTIES ALONG THE WAY BECAUSE OF THE ORGANIZATION.
 
BECAUSE OF THE ORGANIZATION. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ABOUT
 
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THAT?
 
THAT? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT
 
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BRAG -- I GUESS I'M BRACHING,
 
TO BRAG -- I GUESS I'M BRACHING, BUT 33 PEOPLE HAVE GONE TO
 
BUT 33 PEOPLE HAVE GONE TO FEDERAL PRISON OR JAILS FOR
 
FEDERAL PRISON OR JAILS FOR TRYING TO KILL ME FOR HARM MY
 
TRYING TO KILL ME FOR HARM MY PROPERTY.
 
PROPERTY. YOU OUR, WAS BURNED IN 1984 BY
 
YOU OUR, WAS BURNED IN 1984 BY THE PLAN.
 
THE PLAN. WE CAUGHT THE GUYS, BUT THEM IN
 
WE CAUGHT THE GUYS, BUT THEM IN JAIL.
 
JAIL. I DIDN'T START THE WORK WITH THE
 
I DIDN'T START THE WORK WITH THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE WOULD HARM ME.
 
IDEA THAT SOMEONE WOULD HARM ME. I'M NOT STUPID.
 
I'M NOT STUPID. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU CAN'T
 
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU CAN'T SAY TIME-OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF
 
SAY TIME-OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME.
 
THE GAME. WE HAVE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT,
 
WE HAVE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT, COOPERATION.
 
COOPERATION. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEAL WITH
 
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEAL WITH THIS PRETTY WELL.
 
THIS PRETTY WELL. 24/7 SECURITY.
 
24/7 SECURITY. WE SPEND TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
 
WE SPEND TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY, WELL OVER 1 MILLION, JUST
 
MONEY, WELL OVER 1 MILLION, JUST ON PERSONAL SECURITY, AND JUST
 
ON PERSONAL SECURITY, AND JUST PART OF IT.
 
PART OF IT. AND I'M HOPING THAT SOME OF THE
 
AND I'M HOPING THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SUED AND A LOT OF
 
PEOPLE THAT WE SUED AND A LOT OF THEM HAVE ACTUALLY TURNED
 
THEM HAVE ACTUALLY TURNED EVIDENCE FOR US, AND THEY HELPED
 
EVIDENCE FOR US, AND THEY HELPED US SEE THAT OURS IS THE BETTER
 
US SEE THAT OURS IS THE BETTER WAY, AND I HOPE THAT THESE GUYS
 
WAY, AND I HOPE THAT THESE GUYS THAT ARE HATERS AND SOME OF THE
 
THAT ARE HATERS AND SOME OF THE WOMEN WITH THEM WILL TURN A LEAF
 
WOMEN WITH THEM WILL TURN A LEAF IN THEIR OWN LIFE AND BECOME
 
IN THEIR OWN LIFE AND BECOME GOOD CITIZENS.
 
GOOD CITIZENS. >> FINALLY, I'LL ASK THE FINAL
 
>> FINALLY, I'LL ASK THE FINAL QUESTION.
 
QUESTION. ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE
 
ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE?
 
FUTURE? WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT THE
 
WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT THE COUNTRY SO SPLIT AND DIVIDED?
 
COUNTRY SO SPLIT AND DIVIDED? >> VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THE
 
>> VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THE COUNTRY.
 
COUNTRY. AMERICA IS A NATION OF
 
AMERICA IS A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS, OF DIVERSITY, MAKES
 
IMMIGRANTS, OF DIVERSITY, MAKES THIS COUNTRY GREAT.
 
THIS COUNTRY GREAT. WE ARE GRENOT IN SPITE OF
 
WE ARE GRENOT IN SPITE OF DIVERSITY, BUT BECAUSE OF IT.
 
DIVERSITY, BUT BECAUSE OF IT. YOU COULD DOUBLE OUR POPULATION
 
YOU COULD DOUBLE OUR POPULATION AND STILL FLY OVER AND SEE
 
AND STILL FLY OVER AND SEE MAINLY TREES WE HAVE LAND THAT
 
MAINLY TREES WE HAVE LAND THAT COULD BE USED FOR FARMING MANY
 
COULD BE USED FOR FARMING MANY ANGLO WHITE PEOPLE HAVE ALMOST A
 
ANGLO WHITE PEOPLE HAVE ALMOST A ZERO BIRTH RATE.
 
ZERO BIRTH RATE. 16 PEOPLE PAID MY SOCIAL
 
16 PEOPLE PAID MY SOCIAL SECURITY TAX WHEN I STARTED
 
SECURITY TAX WHEN I STARTED WORKING.
 
WORKING. NOW THERE ARE TWO OR THREE.
 
NOW THERE ARE TWO OR THREE. WE NEED PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY.
 
WE NEED PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY. WHEN IRISH PEOPLE CAME HERE,
 
WHEN IRISH PEOPLE CAME HERE, THEY DID THE GROUND LEVEL JOBS.
 
THEY DID THE GROUND LEVEL JOBS. LATER THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS
 
LATER THEIR SONS AND DAUGHTERS MOVED UP.
 
MOVED UP. AND LATINOS, BIGGEST MINORITY IN
 
AND LATINOS, BIGGEST MINORITY IN THE COUNTRY TODAY WILL DO THE
 
THE COUNTRY TODAY WILL DO THE SAME THING.
 
SAME THING. END UP MOVING ON AND GROWING
 
END UP MOVING ON AND GROWING THIS NATION AND MAKING THIS
 
THIS NATION AND MAKING THIS NATION GREAT.
 
NATION GREAT. AS THEY FIND A PLACE, WHAT I'D
 
AS THEY FIND A PLACE, WHAT I'D LIKE TO CALL AMERICA'S TABLE.
 
LIKE TO CALL AMERICA'S TABLE. >> ALL RIGHT, MORRIS DEES.
 
>> ALL RIGHT, MORRIS DEES. FOUNDER AND CHIEF TRIAL ATTORNEY
 
FOUNDER AND CHIEF TRIAL ATTORNEY AT THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW
 
AT THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER.
 
CENTER. GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
 
GOOD LUCK TO YOU. >> HEY, MAN, THANK YOU.
 
>> HEY, MAN, THANK YOU. >>> MANY STUDENTS FROM THE
 
>>> MANY STUDENTS FROM THE UNITED STATES ARE SUDDENLY
 
UNITED STATES ARE SUDDENLY FINDING THEMSELVES IN MEXICO,
 
FINDING THEMSELVES IN MEXICO, AND A UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA
 
AND A UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA PROFESSOR IS CONDUCTING RESEARCH
 
PROFESSOR IS CONDUCTING RESEARCH ABOUT THEM.
 
ABOUT THEM. THE PROFESSOR RECENTLY WON THE
 
THE PROFESSOR RECENTLY WON THE FULL WRITE GRANT TO SEE HOW
 
FULL WRITE GRANT TO SEE HOW YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ADAPTING TO
 
YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ADAPTING TO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THEIR
 
SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THEIR LIVES.
 
LIVES. >> DR. NORMA GONZALEZ IS A
 
>> DR. NORMA GONZALEZ IS A UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA PROFESSOR
 
UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA PROFESSOR IN TEACHER, LEARNING, AND SOCIAL
 
IN TEACHER, LEARNING, AND SOCIAL CULTURAL STUDIES DEPARTMENT.
 
CULTURAL STUDIES DEPARTMENT. SHE EARNED A FULBRIGHT GRANT TO
 
SHE EARNED A FULBRIGHT GRANT TO STUDY THE U.S. BORN OR EDUCATED
 
STUDY THE U.S. BORN OR EDUCATED STUDENTS NOW LIVING IN THE
 
STUDENTS NOW LIVING IN THE NORTHERN REGION OF MEXICO.
 
NORTHERN REGION OF MEXICO. THIS IS A PHENOMENON THAT HAS
 
THIS IS A PHENOMENON THAT HAS INCREASED DRAMATICALLY IN RECENT
 
INCREASED DRAMATICALLY IN RECENT YEARS.
 
YEARS. >> THEY ARE VERY O ENGLISH
 
>> THEY ARE VERY O ENGLISH DOMINANT.
 
DOMINANT. HAD SCHOOLING EXPERIENCES IN
 
HAD SCHOOLING EXPERIENCES IN ARIZONA, THE UNITED STATES.
 
ARIZONA, THE UNITED STATES. AND BECAUSE OF A SERIES OF
 
AND BECAUSE OF A SERIES OF FACTORS, ARE RETURNING TO
 
FACTORS, ARE RETURNING TO SONNORA AND ARE ENTERING THE
 
SONNORA AND ARE ENTERING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DOWN THERE.
 
SCHOOL SYSTEM DOWN THERE. >> THIS EDUCATION PRODUCED IN
 
>> THIS EDUCATION PRODUCED IN MEXICO DOCUMENTS THE EXPERIENCE
 
MEXICO DOCUMENTS THE EXPERIENCE OF SEVERAL U.S.-BORN STUDENTS
 
OF SEVERAL U.S.-BORN STUDENTS BEING FORCED TO LOCATE TO
 
BEING FORCED TO LOCATE TO MEXICO.
 
MEXICO. ACCORDING TO GONZALEZ, THE
 
ACCORDING TO GONZALEZ, THE REASONS INCLUDE THE ECONOMIC
 
REASONS INCLUDE THE ECONOMIC RECESSION AND MORE STRINGENT
 
RECESSION AND MORE STRINGENT ANTI-IMMIGRATION LAWS, INCLUDING
 
ANTI-IMMIGRATION LAWS, INCLUDING SB 1070.
 
SB 1070. >> SONORA IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
 
>> SONORA IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE LATEST FIGURES, THERE
 
YEARS, THE LATEST FIGURES, THERE ARE,000 STUDENTS WITH PREVIOUS
 
ARE,000 STUDENTS WITH PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE IN THE UNITED STATES.
 
EXPERIENCE IN THE UNITED STATES. MOSTLY ARIZONA.
 
MOSTLY ARIZONA. AND SO THAT -- THAT'S A LARGE
 
AND SO THAT -- THAT'S A LARGE DEMOGRAPHIC.
 
DEMOGRAPHIC. >> GONZALEZ SAYS STUDENTS FIND
 
>> GONZALEZ SAYS STUDENTS FIND THEMSELVES PULLED OUT OF
 
THEMSELVES PULLED OUT OF FAMILIAR ACADEMIC ENVIRONMENT
 
FAMILIAR ACADEMIC ENVIRONMENT FACE MANY CHALLENGES, AND THE
 
FACE MANY CHALLENGES, AND THE PROCESS OF RELOCATING TO A NEW
 
PROCESS OF RELOCATING TO A NEW COUNTRY CAN BE TRAUMATIC.
 
COUNTRY CAN BE TRAUMATIC. >> ONE YOUNG WOMAN TALKED ABOUT
 
>> ONE YOUNG WOMAN TALKED ABOUT HOW HER MOTHER CAME TO HER
 
HOW HER MOTHER CAME TO HER SCHOOL IN ARIZONA AND SAID WE'RE
 
SCHOOL IN ARIZONA AND SAID WE'RE LEAVING AND SHE FELT THIS SENSE
 
LEAVING AND SHE FELT THIS SENSE OF LOSS, SHE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE
 
OF LOSS, SHE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO HER FRIENDS
 
TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO HER FRIENDS AND THOSE SHE IS CLOSE TO HERE.
 
AND THOSE SHE IS CLOSE TO HERE. ALWAYS THAT SENSE OF RUPTURE.
 
ALWAYS THAT SENSE OF RUPTURE. THAT'S A PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPACT
 
THAT'S A PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPACT AND TRAUMA THAT STUDENTS ARE
 
AND TRAUMA THAT STUDENTS ARE DEALING WITH.
 
DEALING WITH. HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?
 
HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES DID IT
 
UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES DID IT HAPPEN?
 
HAPPEN? >> THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE
 
>> THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE DIFFERENT FOR EACH STUDENT, BUT
 
DIFFERENT FOR EACH STUDENT, BUT ACADEMIC CHALLENGES ARE SIMILAR.
 
ACADEMIC CHALLENGES ARE SIMILAR. LANGUAGE BARRIERS PUT KIDS AT A
 
LANGUAGE BARRIERS PUT KIDS AT A DISADVANTAGE WHEN THEY ARRIVE TO
 
DISADVANTAGE WHEN THEY ARRIVE TO THEIR NEW SCHOOL AND THEY ARE
 
THEIR NEW SCHOOL AND THEY ARE OFTEN PLACED WITH YOUNGER
 
OFTEN PLACED WITH YOUNGER STUDENTS.
 
STUDENTS. >> THE OTHER THING, FITTING IN
 
>> THE OTHER THING, FITTING IN SOCIALLY WITH THEIR PEERS AND
 
SOCIALLY WITH THEIR PEERS AND THEIR FRIENDS.
 
THEIR FRIENDS. THEY CAN BE SEEN AS NOT SPEAKING
 
THEY CAN BE SEEN AS NOT SPEAKING SPANISH THE WAY A MEXICAN WOULD
 
SPANISH THE WAY A MEXICAN WOULD SPEAK IT, SO THEY ARE COMING
 
SPEAK IT, SO THEY ARE COMING FROM A U.S. CONTEXT WHERE THEY
 
FROM A U.S. CONTEXT WHERE THEY WERE SEEN AS MEXICAN.
 
WERE SEEN AS MEXICAN. THEN GOING INTO MEXICAN CONTEXT
 
THEN GOING INTO MEXICAN CONTEXT WHERE THEY AREN'T SEEN AS
 
WHERE THEY AREN'T SEEN AS MEXICAN.
 
MEXICAN. SEEING OUTSIDERS BECAUSE OF THE
 
SEEING OUTSIDERS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY SPEAK, THE WAY THEY
 
WAY THEY SPEAK, THE WAY THEY DRESS, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT
 
DRESS, ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT MARKERS WITH YOUNG PEOPLE.
 
MARKERS WITH YOUNG PEOPLE. A LOT OF NUANCES IN HOW THEY SEE
 
A LOT OF NUANCES IN HOW THEY SEE THEMSELVES OTHERS SEE THEM.
 
THEMSELVES OTHERS SEE THEM. EYEITY IS A BIG ISSUE.
 
EYEITY IS A BIG ISSUE. >> GONZALEZ, SAYS THE PHENOMENON
 
>> GONZALEZ, SAYS THE PHENOMENON OF U.S.-BORN STUDENTS IS
 
OF U.S.-BORN STUDENTS IS RELATIVELY NEW AND HOPES TO
 
RELATIVELY NEW AND HOPES TO PROVIDE INSIGHT INTO THE
 
PROVIDE INSIGHT INTO THE TRANSNATIONAL EXPERIENCES OF
 
TRANSNATIONAL EXPERIENCES OF YOUNG PEOPLE.
 
YOUNG PEOPLE. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN
 
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA OF
 
IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA OF RESEARCH UNTIL FAIRLY RECENTLY.
 
RESEARCH UNTIL FAIRLY RECENTLY. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT,
 
WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT, THEY -- THESE YOUNG PEOPLE SEE
 
THEY -- THESE YOUNG PEOPLE SEE THEMSELVES TRANSNATIONALLY, THEY
 
THEMSELVES TRANSNATIONALLY, THEY SEE THEMSELVES, THEY ARE U.S.
 
SEE THEMSELVES, THEY ARE U.S. CITIZENS, SEE THEMSELVES AS
 
CITIZENS, SEE THEMSELVES AS RETURNING TO THE UNITED STATES,
 
RETURNING TO THE UNITED STATES, HAVING TRANSNATIONAL FUTURES,
 
HAVING TRANSNATIONAL FUTURES, AND I THINK THAT MAKES IT REALLY
 
AND I THINK THAT MAKES IT REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO THINK ABOUT
 
IMPORTANT FOR US TO THINK ABOUT HOW EDUCATION ON BOTH SIDES OF
 
HOW EDUCATION ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER CAN LEVERAGE THEIR
 
THE BORDER CAN LEVERAGE THEIR SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE AND NOT TO
 
SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE AND NOT TO ERASE THAT.
 
ERASE THAT. TO MAKE SURE THAT'S VALUED AND
 
TO MAKE SURE THAT'S VALUED AND THEIR FUTURES DO BECOME WHAT
 
THEIR FUTURES DO BECOME WHAT THEY CAN.
 
THEY CAN. >> GONZALEZ SAYS SHE WILL LOOK
 
>> GONZALEZ SAYS SHE WILL LOOK AT HOW YOUNG PEOPLE USE DIGITAL
 
AT HOW YOUNG PEOPLE USE DIGITAL LANDSCAPE AS THEY NAVIGATE THEIR
 
LANDSCAPE AS THEY NAVIGATE THEIR TRANSNATIONAL EXPERIENCE.
 
TRANSNATIONAL EXPERIENCE. SHE THINKS SOCIAL NETWORKS AND
 
SHE THINKS SOCIAL NETWORKS AND OTHER MODES OF DIGITAL
 
OTHER MODES OF DIGITAL EXPRESSION WILL ALLOW YOUNG
 
EXPRESSION WILL ALLOW YOUNG PEOPLE TO ADAPT IN WAYS THAT ARE
 
PEOPLE TO ADAPT IN WAYS THAT ARE NOT YET CLEAR.
 
NOT YET CLEAR. >> COULD BE A BENEFIT IF IT'S
 
>> COULD BE A BENEFIT IF IT'S NURTURED AND THERE IS THE
 
NURTURED AND THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SEE IT
 
OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO SEE IT AS THAT.
 
AS THAT. SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T
 
SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY VALUE ANYTHING THAT
 
NECESSARILY VALUE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT PART OF THE -- THE
 
IS NOT PART OF THE -- THE DOMINANT NARRATIVE, AND SO IT'S
 
DOMINANT NARRATIVE, AND SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR TO US
 
REALLY IMPORTANT FOR TO US REALLY SEE ALL ASPECTS OF THE
 
REALLY SEE ALL ASPECTS OF THE STUDENTS' EXPERIENCES.
 
STUDENTS' EXPERIENCES. THEY ARE COMING WITH WAYS OF
 
THEY ARE COMING WITH WAYS OF SEEING THE WORLD THAT ARE MUCH
 
SEEING THE WORLD THAT ARE MUCH BROADER AND THEY ARE ABLE TO
 
BROADER AND THEY ARE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH A LOT MORE THINGS
 
CONNECT WITH A LOT MORE THINGS AND SO WE NEED TO -- ON BOTH
 
AND SO WE NEED TO -- ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BORDER, VALUE THESE
 
SIDES OF THE BORDER, VALUE THESE EXPERIENCES AS SOMETHING THAT IS
 
EXPERIENCES AS SOMETHING THAT IS PEDAGOGUICALLY RELEVANT AND HOW
 
PEDAGOGUICALLY RELEVANT AND HOW WE THINK OF TEACHING AND
 
WE THINK OF TEACHING AND LEARNING.
 
LEARNING. >> DR. GONZALEZ' FULBRIGHT GRANT
 
>> DR. GONZALEZ' FULBRIGHT GRANT WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE YEAR
 
WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE YEAR 2013.
 
>>> THE PERSON ATRONATO SAN XAVIER MISSION IS ONE OF THE
 
XAVIER MISSION IS ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR SPOTS IN OUR STATE.
 
MOST POPULAR SPOTS IN OUR STATE. MANY ARE LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT
 
MANY ARE LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT THANKS TO A COMMITTED GROUP OF
 
THANKS TO A COMMITTED GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS.
 
VOLUNTEERS. WE HAVE AN INTERVIEW ABOUT
 
WE HAVE AN INTERVIEW ABOUT PATRONATO SAN XAVIER, A GROUP
 
PATRONATO SAN XAVIER, A GROUP THAT'S HELPING WITH ITS
 
THAT'S HELPING WITH ITS RESTORATION.
 
RESTORATION. WE HAVE VERN LAMPLOT AND CRAIG
 
WE HAVE VERN LAMPLOT AND CRAIG REID.
 
REID. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
 
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK YOU.
 
>> THANK YOU. >> I HAVE HEARD OF THIS GROUP
 
>> I HAVE HEARD OF THIS GROUP FOR YEARS.
 
FOR YEARS. WHAT IS THE HISTORY.
 
WHAT IS THE HISTORY. WHAT IS THE MISSION?
 
WHAT IS THE MISSION? >> PATRONATO SAN XAVIER, FORMED
 
>> PATRONATO SAN XAVIER, FORMED IN 1978 BY SIX LOCAL CITIZENS
 
IN 1978 BY SIX LOCAL CITIZENS INTERESTED IN PRESERVING THE
 
INTERESTED IN PRESERVING THE CHURCH AND KNOWING MORE ABOUT
 
CHURCH AND KNOWING MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH, AND
 
THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH, AND SINCE THAT TIME, IN THE LAST 30
 
SINCE THAT TIME, IN THE LAST 30 OR SO YEARS, PATRONATO HAS
 
OR SO YEARS, PATRONATO HAS RAISED MORE THAN 10 MILLION TO
 
RAISED MORE THAN 10 MILLION TO RESTORE BOTH THE INTERIOR AND
 
RESTORE BOTH THE INTERIOR AND EXTERROR OF THE CHURCH.
 
EXTERROR OF THE CHURCH. RARE COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU
 
RARE COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU ADDED A NEW MISSION, ONE OF THE
 
ADDED A NEW MISSION, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL TALK ABOUT, THE
 
THINGS WE'LL TALK ABOUT, THE TOURS AND THE DOCENTS.
 
TOURS AND THE DOCENTS. >> WE DECIDED IT WOULD BE A GOOD
 
>> WE DECIDED IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO OFFER A DOCENT TOUR,
 
TIME TO OFFER A DOCENT TOUR, PRIMARILY BECAUSE SOMETHING LIKE
 
PRIMARILY BECAUSE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE ON A
 
THAT HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE ON A REGULAR BASIS OUT THERE, AND IN
 
REGULAR BASIS OUT THERE, AND IN TALKING WITH THE PARISH PRIEST,
 
TALKING WITH THE PARISH PRIEST, WE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE A
 
WE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT WITH AN OPERATING
 
GOOD FIT WITH AN OPERATING CATHOLIC CHURCH AS IT IS, AND
 
CATHOLIC CHURCH AS IT IS, AND THIS LAST -- 2011, WE WERE ABLE
 
THIS LAST -- 2011, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER THE RESOURCES
 
TO PUT TOGETHER THE RESOURCES FOR THE PROGRAM.
 
FOR THE PROGRAM. >> CRAIG, WHEN DID YOU HEAR
 
>> CRAIG, WHEN DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THE PROGRAM?
 
ABOUT THE PROGRAM? WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO GET
 
WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO GET INVOLVED?
 
INVOLVED? >> WHEN THE FIRST INITIAL PRESS
 
>> WHEN THE FIRST INITIAL PRESS RELEASES WENT OUT ABOUT THE
 
RELEASES WENT OUT ABOUT THE START OF THE PROGRAM.
 
START OF THE PROGRAM. I WAS VERY INTERESTED, LIKE A
 
I WAS VERY INTERESTED, LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MOVED HERE,
 
LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MOVED HERE, YOU GO THERE, THERE'S SO MUCH
 
YOU GO THERE, THERE'S SO MUCH THERE.
 
THERE. AND YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE.
 
AND YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT
 
I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN
 
OPPORTUNITY TO GET INVOLVED IN THE START.
 
THE START. >> HAVE YOU BEEN A DOCENT,
 
>> HAVE YOU BEEN A DOCENT, INVOLVED AS EDUCATION DIRECTOR?
 
INVOLVED AS EDUCATION DIRECTOR? >> YES.
 
>> YES. WE WERE VERY LUCKY EARLY ON TO
 
WE WERE VERY LUCKY EARLY ON TO ATTRACT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAD
 
ATTRACT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAD A REALLY GREAT BACKGROUND IN THE
 
A REALLY GREAT BACKGROUND IN THE CHURCH, AND THE HISTORY OF THE
 
CHURCH, AND THE HISTORY OF THE MISSION.
 
MISSION. DR. FONTANA, DONE SOME OF THE
 
DR. FONTANA, DONE SOME OF THE EARLY RESEARCH THERE, VERY
 
EARLY RESEARCH THERE, VERY HELPFUL IN GETTING US STARTED
 
HELPFUL IN GETTING US STARTED AND THAT BACKGROUND.
 
AND THAT BACKGROUND. WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO HAVE A
 
WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM TO TRAIN
 
COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM TO TRAIN DOCENTS FOR THE LONG RUN TO MAKE
 
DOCENTS FOR THE LONG RUN TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL.
 
THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL. >> WHAT ARE SOME OF THE
 
>> WHAT ARE SOME OF THE QUALITIES THAT YOU ARE LOOKING
 
QUALITIES THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR?
 
FOR? >> MOSTLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE,
 
>> MOSTLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE, NUMBER ONE, THE TIME AVAILABLE
 
NUMBER ONE, THE TIME AVAILABLE TO PERFORM THE TOURS, AND
 
TO PERFORM THE TOURS, AND SECOND, AN INTEREST IN THE
 
SECOND, AN INTEREST IN THE CULTURE AND HISTORY OF THE
 
CULTURE AND HISTORY OF THE SOUTHWEST.
 
SOUTHWEST. THEY DON'T HAVE TO KNOW A LOT
 
THEY DON'T HAVE TO KNOW A LOT RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE
 
RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE INTERESTING IN APPLYING
 
INTERESTING IN APPLYING THEMSELVES.
 
THEMSELVES. CRAIG WILL TELL YOU, U.S. A LOT
 
CRAIG WILL TELL YOU, U.S. A LOT TO LEARN.
 
TO LEARN. >> YOU WILL SIT DOWN WITH PEOPLE
 
>> YOU WILL SIT DOWN WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE CHOSEN TO BE A
 
WHO ARE CHOSEN TO BE A VOLUNTEER.
 
VOLUNTEER. WHAT DO YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT?
 
WHAT DO YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT? >> WE TALK ABOUT ALL ASPECTS,
 
>> WE TALK ABOUT ALL ASPECTS, THE HISTORY OF THE NATIVE
 
THE HISTORY OF THE NATIVE PEOPLE, THE HISTORY OF THE
 
PEOPLE, THE HISTORY OF THE SPANISH PEOPLE AS THEY ARRIVE.
 
SPANISH PEOPLE AS THEY ARRIVE. THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH, THE
 
THE HISTORY OF THE CHURCH, THE ARCHITECTURE, CONSTRUCTION, THE
 
ARCHITECTURE, CONSTRUCTION, THE ART THAT'S THERE, AND THE
 
ART THAT'S THERE, AND THE SYMBOLISM THAT'S PRESENT, AND
 
SYMBOLISM THAT'S PRESENT, AND THERE ARE SUCH GREAT STORIES
 
THERE ARE SUCH GREAT STORIES CONNECTED WITH THE MISSION THAT
 
CONNECTED WITH THE MISSION THAT WE GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO TELL
 
WE GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO TELL THOSE STORIES TO VISITORS AND
 
THOSE STORIES TO VISITORS AND THAT'S REALLY THE IMPORTANT
 
THAT'S REALLY THE IMPORTANT THING.
 
THING. >> AND, VERN, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF
 
>> AND, VERN, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF PEOPLE CHERISH THIS LOCATION.
 
PEOPLE CHERISH THIS LOCATION. WHY DO YOU PERSONALLY FIND IT
 
WHY DO YOU PERSONALLY FIND IT SUCH A WONDERFUL TREASURE FOR
 
SUCH A WONDERFUL TREASURE FOR THIS AREA?
 
THIS AREA? >> I TELL PEOPLE ALL OF THE
 
>> I TELL PEOPLE ALL OF THE STORIES OF HOW THE SOUTHWEST
 
STORIES OF HOW THE SOUTHWEST CAME TO BE ARE CONTAINED IN THAT
 
CAME TO BE ARE CONTAINED IN THAT BUILD.
 
BUILD. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO, WALK INSIDE,
 
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO, WALK INSIDE, OPEN YOUR EYES.
 
OPEN YOUR EYES. AN AUTHENTIC 19th CENTURY SPACE.
 
AN AUTHENTIC 19th CENTURY SPACE. YOU WALK IN, FEEL THE
 
YOU WALK IN, FEEL THE SPIRITUALITY, AND A SENSE OF
 
SPIRITUALITY, AND A SENSE OF SERENITY AND CONTENTMENT, THE
 
SERENITY AND CONTENTMENT, THE MOMENT YOU WALK INSIDE.
 
MOMENT YOU WALK INSIDE. IT AFFECTS PEOPLE, YOU CAN
 
IT AFFECTS PEOPLE, YOU CAN ALMOST VISIBLY SEE THE EFFECT ON
 
ALMOST VISIBLY SEE THE EFFECT ON THEM WHEN THEY WALK INSIDE THE
 
THEM WHEN THEY WALK INSIDE THE CHURCH AND BEGIN WALKING AROUND.
 
CHURCH AND BEGIN WALKING AROUND. AND IT'S AN ODD FEELING, BECAUSE
 
AND IT'S AN ODD FEELING, BECAUSE IT IS A BAROQUE CHURCH AND
 
IT IS A BAROQUE CHURCH AND BAROQUE IS VERY COUNTERPOINT,
 
BAROQUE IS VERY COUNTERPOINT, BOTH IN MUSIC AND IN ART.
 
BOTH IN MUSIC AND IN ART. AND SO THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS
 
AND SO THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AND YET IT'S STILL
 
GOING ON AND YET IT'S STILL PROVOKES A SENSE OF SERENITY IN
 
PROVOKES A SENSE OF SERENITY IN PEOPLE WHO COME IN, LOOK AROUND
 
PEOPLE WHO COME IN, LOOK AROUND AND PART OF THE FUN OF BEING OUT
 
AND PART OF THE FUN OF BEING OUT THERE, BEING ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE
 
THERE, BEING ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE ABOUT IT TELL ABOUT THE
 
ABOUT IT TELL ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE, AND BY THAT METHOD,
 
IMPORTANCE, AND BY THAT METHOD, ABLE TO PRESERVE ITS FUTURE.
 
ABLE TO PRESERVE ITS FUTURE. >> A LOT OF THOSE WE FORGET --
 
>> A LOT OF THOSE WE FORGET -- PARTICULARLY, SOME PEOPLE FORGET
 
PARTICULARLY, SOME PEOPLE FORGET THAT ITS NOT A WORKING PARISH,
 
THAT ITS NOT A WORKING PARISH, NOT JUST AN OLD BUILDING?
 
NOT JUST AN OLD BUILDING? >> THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CHALLENGE
 
>> THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CHALLENGE TO US, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
 
TO US, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOURS DON'T INTERFERE WITH THE
 
TOURS DON'T INTERFERE WITH THE WORKING OF THE CHURCH.
 
WORKING OF THE CHURCH. AND WE TRY TO BE VERY DELLTANT
 
AND WE TRY TO BE VERY DELLTANT ABOU
 
ABOU DELICATE ABOUT THAT.
 
DELICATE ABOUT THAT. >> YOU ARE HAVING A MEETING?
 
>> YOU ARE HAVING A MEETING? >> WE ARE INVITING PEOPLE TO
 
>> WE ARE INVITING PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT THE DOCENT PROGRAM
 
LEARN ABOUT THE DOCENT PROGRAM ON DECEMBER 8th.
 
ON DECEMBER 8th. WE'LL TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT WE
 
WE'LL TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT WE DO IT'S NOT OVERWHELMING, HERE
 
DO IT'S NOT OVERWHELMING, HERE IS A 500-PAGE BOOK TO READ BY
 
IS A 500-PAGE BOOK TO READ BY NEXT WEEK.
 
NEXT WEEK. WE DO PEOPLE AT THEIR OWN SPEED.
 
WE DO PEOPLE AT THEIR OWN SPEED. WE WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE
 
WE WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE COMMITMENT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
 
COMMITMENT WE'RE ASKING FOR. >> SOME OF THE WORK ARE YOU
 
>> SOME OF THE WORK ARE YOU DOING IS AMAZING.
 
DOING IS AMAZING. YOU HAVE 40 DOCENTS AND
 
YOU HAVE 40 DOCENTS AND PROVIDING MULTIPLE TOURS.
 
PROVIDING MULTIPLE TOURS. >> WE PROVIDE TOURS EVERY DAY
 
>> WE PROVIDE TOURS EVERY DAY BUT SUNDAY, SOMETIMES UP TO SIX
 
BUT SUNDAY, SOMETIMES UP TO SIX TOURS PER DAY.
 
TOURS PER DAY. ON THE SAN JAVIER WEBSITE, WHAT
 
ON THE SAN JAVIER WEBSITE, WHAT KIN OF TOURS THEY ARE GIVEN.
 
KIN OF TOURS THEY ARE GIVEN. ON BUSY DAYS, TOURS ARE EVERY
 
ON BUSY DAYS, TOURS ARE EVERY HALF HOUR.
 
HALF HOUR. WE CAN GET UP TO 40, 50 PEOPLE
 
WE CAN GET UP TO 40, 50 PEOPLE ON A TOUR.
 
ON A TOUR. WE LIKE TO DO SMALLER GROUPS,
 
WE LIKE TO DO SMALLER GROUPS, BECAUSE WE CAN INTERACT A LOT
 
BECAUSE WE CAN INTERACT A LOT MORE.
 
MORE. WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THROUGH
 
WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THROUGH THERE.
 
THERE. FUN TO TELL THE STORIES.
 
FUN TO TELL THE STORIES. >> VERN, WE HAVE ABOUT 25
 
>> VERN, WE HAVE ABOUT 25 SECONDS TO TELL YOU ABOUT AN
 
SECONDS TO TELL YOU ABOUT AN EFFORT YOU ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW
 
EFFORT YOU ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW WITH $3 MILLION.
 
WITH $3 MILLION. >> AS I SAID BEFORE, WE HAVE
 
>> AS I SAID BEFORE, WE HAVE RAISED $10 MILLION SO FAR FOR
 
RAISED $10 MILLION SO FAR FOR THE RESTORATION OF THE CHURCH,
 
THE RESTORATION OF THE CHURCH, ONE MAJOR EXTERIOR PIECE THAT
 
ONE MAJOR EXTERIOR PIECE THAT WILL FINISH AND CLOSE OFF AND
 
WILL FINISH AND CLOSE OFF AND SECURE THE STRUCTURE FOR THE
 
SECURE THE STRUCTURE FOR THE FUTURE.
 
FUTURE. AND THAT IS THE EAST TOWER, AND
 
AND THAT IS THE EAST TOWER, AND THOSE THAT HAVE GONE OUT THERE
 
THOSE THAT HAVE GONE OUT THERE AND SEEN IT, YOU CAN READILY
 
AND SEEN IT, YOU CAN READILY TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
 
TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WEST TOWER AND EAST TOWER AND SO
 
WEST TOWER AND EAST TOWER AND SO THAT'S OUR NEXT TARGET.
 
THAT'S OUR NEXT TARGET. THE BOARD RECENTLY VOTED TO --
 
THE BOARD RECENTLY VOTED TO -- ON A $3 MILLION, THREE-YEAR
 
ON A $3 MILLION, THREE-YEAR CAPITAL CAMPAIGN TO RAISE THE
 
CAPITAL CAMPAIGN TO RAISE THE FUNDS TO GET THAT DONE SO THAT
 
FUNDS TO GET THAT DONE SO THAT THE CHURCH WILL BE SECURE FOR
 
THE CHURCH WILL BE SECURE FOR THE FUTURE.
 
THE FUTURE. >> ALL RIGHT.
 
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
 
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD LUCK WITH EVERYTHING.
 
GOOD LUCK WITH EVERYTHING. >> THANK YOU.
 
>> THANK YOU. >>> IN TONE'S VIDEO POSTCARD, WE
 
>>> IN TONE'S VIDEO POSTCARD, WE TAKE YOU TO PAPAGO FARMS.
 

 

 

 

 
>>> COMING UP TOMORROW NIGHT, WE'LL TALK TO AWARD-WINNING
 
WE'LL TALK TO AWARD-WINNING JOURNAL I
 
JOURNAL I JOURNALI
 
JOURNALI JOURNALIST ABOUT A NEW
 
JOURNALIST ABOUT A NEW DOCUMENTARY THAT TAKES A LOOK AT
 
DOCUMENTARY THAT TAKES A LOOK AT THE GROWING DIVERSITY OF THE
 
THE GROWING DIVERSITY OF THE UNITED STATES.
 
UNITED STATES. I'M TONY PANIAGUA.
 
I'M TONY PANIAGUA. HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.