781218 Public Program Agnya

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Actually Christians do not know anything about His becoming. How He became Christ or what
was the need to have Christ or a son to come down. Why not God Himself could do the job.
And this is the reason why I would request you to read for yourself the incarnation of
Maha Vishnu by which you realize why Christ was born.
And it is the most important incarnation because He is the principle. He is the principle of
creation. The Tattwa as they call it in Sanskrit language. He is the tattwa. Ganesha, who resides
in the Mooladhara gradually evolves to be Christ at this stage. From that red Chakra
up to this Chakra He became the Christ. He is the principle. Now what is the principle?
Within us what is our principle? Is say the Kundalini you can say? In this the electricity
is the principle of this one is. In the same way the creation, the whole creation if you
take it as such, it is the principle and the support of this creation. He represents the
essence, the essence of creation. Like we can say we have a family, husband and wife
and the child. Now the child is the essence of husband and wife. He is the essence of
the family, of the house. The whole thing is sustained for him, is created for him.
Till they did not have the child there was no meaning to that house, no meaning to their
life. But when they had a child then they had a meaning. In the same way Christ is the
essence, is the tattwa itself. He’s the Omkara as they call it. He is the first sound,
first sound that was created AUM when the Primordial Father and Primordial Mother separated,
They created this sound. And He is that sound which is filled into All-Pervading Power and
looks after and support, actually it is more the support because looking after is done
by the father you can say or by the mother. But is the support of all the universe. And
because He is just the essence, the essence never dies. Say My essence is My Spirit, it
will never die. The body dies or the creation will die but the essence has to be there.
If the essence is lost then nothing could be there that’s why He is the most important
incarnation. Because He is the support.
Now this incarnation is placed in this Agnya Chakra of ours. Here in the center where the
optic nerve or optic thalamus cross each other like this. In the center is a very subtle
point which moves both the sides like this and like that and it creates two sounds Ham
Ksham, Ham Ksham, Ham Ksham. Ham is on the right hand side where you have seen the superego
is there and Ksham is on the left hand side where the ego is. Now these two sounds create
two kinds of vibrations. The Ham sound creates the vibrations, which make you think, “I
am, I am. Ham, I am.” This comes from our existence power that we know we have to live
in this world, we’re not going to die. Any human being who tries to kill himself is abnormal.
Normally every human being, why every animal or any living thing tries to retain its life.
That is through this power of Ham that I am. Now the superego on the left hand side and
ego on the right hand side is Ksham.
But now I’ll tell you about the right hand side superego. In this superego when you are
conditioned by so many things, then you are frightened and you are worried because these
experiences make you that type of a person which has fear in the mind. And this fear
is all settled in your superego. This starts from your amoeba stage you can say and is
still today is being stored there. You are afraid of police, you are afraid of that,
you are afraid of this. Some people are not afraid of these things but are afraid of something
else. Because whatever have been your conditions, whatever have been your experiences are all
put down here. Moreover when somebody reads the book of “Dracula” now he’s afraid
of the word Dracula but the children who do not read they do not know what is a Dracula
is. If you say Dracula has come they say all right lets have a look at him. But those children
have read about Dracula, they are literally frightened and they say, “Oh God, Dracula
is coming, something terrible is going to happen.” So you see whatever you have read,
whatever you have gone through whatever experiences you have had all is in the superego. So this
superego in that this center sends message, I am, you are, you are Ham, Ham don’t be
afraid, don’t be afraid, you are.
So the people who come to Me, you have seen some people who come to Me are victims of
superego conditioning And these are the people, actually at this stage only you can really
discriminate between the two types. One who are very aggressive, the other who are absolutely
we should say subordinated, frightened. These people when they come to Me I have seen, they
go on crying and weeping, “Mother you know this has happened that has happened,” and
I really get tired talking to them. And there are so many of this kind that really you have
to pay attention to them as Sahaja Yogis because you’ll have to deal with them, how to manage
them and how to work it out. Now at that time if a Sahaja Yogi says, now you go on saying
Ham, Ham, Ham, Ham, a Sahaja Yogi if he says then the vibrations will drive out his fear.
Even if you are under any fear and you are walking around and you feel that there’s
frightened, you just say Ham, Ham, Ham. Now with this saying the vibrations will clear
out this side very nicely. Apart from that, that is the way you can get help from the
Divine by saying Ham. Now there are many things about Ham and Ksham but as the time is you
know, so I do not want to go into great details about it. But I would say the mantra for the
right hand side is Ham and for the left hand side is Ksham.
The right hand side is the ego, which is real problem, you understand that, is a real colossal
one you have to face them, I mean. I say anything small here and there I find the whole thing
coming up onto my head like that. So what is the solution for a colossal ego? Colossal
ego can only be conquered by forgiving others. Those who have ego must learn if they feel
hurt they must say, “forgive.” Then another person hurts them, say, “forgive.” And
not only forgive but ask for forgiveness. Both things should be done, more asking for
forgiveness. You have to ask for forgiveness if you have too much of ego. It is very important.
Because if you have too much of ego means what? That you have pampered it too much.
That means you have used it too much. You have dominated people and that’s why you
have such a lot of ego. If you have such a lot of ego you must all the time try to humble
down in your heart. Now in the heart resides the spirit. The ego, too much of ego in a
person always takes you away from that spirit. That’s why it is said, “Humble down in
your heart.” The reason is, in the heart resides that part of yours which gets completely
obliterated or forgotten once you start pumping up your ego.
But ego has its limits, it ends up into stupidity and foolishness. You take any person who is
egoistical and who’s blowing his own trumpet. You will immediately know because he’ll
be stupid. Without understanding what he’s doing he’ll be doing such stupid things
that you will start wondering, especially children, “What’s the matter with this
fellow, he is quite funny?” And then the stupidity you see faces the person then he
sees for himself, “Oh God! how did I become so stupid?” The stupidity comes to you because
you forget the existence of God and your relationship with the whole. You think, “I am on my own.
Why should I not do this? What is wrong in this, what is wrong in that? I should do these
things.” I mean in this country the way people are fighting for things. I mean you
must, anybody I mean, those so-called developing countries can’t understand what kind of
a thing happening to these people. Because the other day My son-in-law Lav was reading
an article that people are demanding now that the son-in-law should be allowed to marry
the mother-in-law. And he just couldn’t understand how can people gather together
and ask for such an absurd thing like that. She is your mother. How can you say that way?
I mean it is something an impossibility for people, normal people to think like that.
That a son-in-law can marry the mother-in-law. And what is there to make a law about it and
to talk about it. It’s a very difficult thing.
All kinds of stupid things we are doing in this country, which really makes everybody
roar with laughter. Is because of our Mr. Ego companionship. It is not easy to understand
how he befools us. It goes on befooling us all the time and then we think what’s wrong?
An eighty-year-old man running after a twenty-year-old girl. And the twenty-year-old girl befooling
this eighty-year-old man, supposed to be a statesman this, that and his statue is erected
somewhere there. How is it possible?
It is only the ego makes you do all these nonsensical and stupid things. Once you are
in Sahaja Yoga you don’t know how to control your laughter sometimes the way people are
foolish. Extremely foolish. And this is what it is; it ends up in stupidity absolute stupidity.
I mean even if you want to write a novel you won’t get such beautiful characters as you
could around you, when you listen to them. And you’re shocked, Oh God what’s this
going on and very embarrassing too. Extremely embarrassing and they become so foolish with
their ego that one cannot understand how thinking man, because by thinking you get your ego,
becomes foolish.
There is no wisdom in a person whose ego is completely developed like that. If somebody
has an ego like that there is no wisdom in him. You can see that he does not know what
is wisdom. He behaves in such an immature way. He may be an elderly man, great grandfather
of somebody but as soon as he opens his mouth you are shocked at him. You think from where
this joker has come? The maturity is completely lacking. The other day somebody told Me that,
“Mother how is it our parents are so stupid and we are searching God? And the elderly
people are so foolish and we are searching God?” And then I said, “No, maybe because
of war the parents are disturbed, you see”. Most of the parents were disturbed during
war and they said, “Majority of them are like this. And the younger people are searching
God and much wiser and we don’t know how to compromise with them because they are not
searching God. Why is it they are not searching God and we are searching God? And if there
are some searching, they are very few.” Now I said this may be due to war but somebody
said, “Then what about America? You see, in America the people didn’t face war so
much, the stupidity that they have is sometimes surprising.”
That is the same thing as I said, is the development of ego in a human being. Now ego is the thing
that makes you think about everything. For example, now we have to, say go from here
to Birmingham, all right. So we think now how will I go? Simple way is that I’ll take
a train or I’ll take a car and go away. If there’s no reservation needed I will
just jump into the train or going by the car. If the car is available I’ll go by car or
by train finished. What is there to think about? But no, then we must plan it out, “I’m
programmed now I have to go”. You go to the station and find the train is not there
because there was some accident so the train is not moving. So you are absolutely upset
because you think that the train has gone now what to do. In that upsetting you do not
even remember that you have a car and you have to go by the car. Now that whole things
upsets you because you had plans to go by train and you had planned everything, now
you cannot reach there and what will happen? Now you are sitting here and worrying about
As a person who is spontaneous what will you do? All right depends on, I may go by train
or by car whatever I feel like at that time. He is sitting tight. So he goes to the train,
sees if the train is there. If it is, nicely there’s a space available he gets into it.
If the train is not available, all right, he comes home takes his car and goes away.
So now you have informed the people that you must meet at such and such a place. That’s
also is there you see. So those people are running up down there and they will be there
at the station. Now what’s the matter? Even if they’re at the station you can meet them
at the station. You go by train and you can meet them. What is there to be that much upset
about it? You see you can always contact them. But the way we get upset we have spoiled the
complete program of going to Birmingham, which is a very beautiful program that we have got.
We have to meet new people, we have to meet many people, we have to enjoy ourselves. That’s
all finished because we had planned something and it did not work out, we are finished.
All these things make us a miserable person. And we are so miserable and so grudging and
so boring that those who are next to you just get fed up with it and they say, “Now shut
up. If you are not going to Birmingham, if you are not going don’t go. But don’t
eat my head now”, is a common experience of many. If this Mr. Ego he’s so, he doesn’t
want you to be happy. He doesn’t want you to be relaxed. He all the time gives you ideas
and tells you, “Do this and do that and you must get it done and this is to be done.
You had better inform that person, be meticulous about it,” and it will go to such details
that anything fails you are finished because your nerves are already finished and shattered.
Anything, even a drop of inconvenience comes into you or even a feather of disturbance
is there, you are finished. And so everybody is rattling, ”We have tensions. We have
problems.” Why? What is the advantage of doing all these things? No advantage you know
that. But then why do you do it? Because you have a big ego. It won’t allow you to rest.
Whatever you may try it won’t. So what is the solution of that? Morning till evening
ask for forgiveness from God. Pull your ears from both the sides and say, “Oh God, forgive
me. Oh God, forgive me. And, oh God forgive me,” so this balloon of ego goes down a
Remember Him morning, evening, every time. Remembering Christ brings down your ego very
much. He did everything that was possible that you should not develop your ego. Everything
that was possible. He was born as an ordinary carpenter’s son. Lived in the most ordinary
conditions. Kept Himself behind the whole scene. He could have been born as Roman Emperor.
He could have been anybody there. But no He was born Himself. You know that He took his
birth in a place where even ordinary people do not take their births. But, there also
the light was there. Wherever He was born there was light and joy. And this is the thing
we have to know, that we have lost the joy because we have forgotten God Almighty. When
we forget Him, that He is love and He is joy, naturally joy is also forgotten. And then
we see people are not at all happy. They have affluence, they have money, they have everything,
but still they are not happy. All the time they are in such a mess that you don’t know
how to talk to them. If you say this word they’ll be angry. If you say that word they’ll
be angry. They are not at all normal human beings. They are sick people. Sick with their
ego. It’s a very simple thing is to ask for forgiveness. How many times do we do that?
Not even once a day, not even once a month, not even once a year. Even on a Christmas
day if we could say, “Forgive us Oh Lord for whatever we have done so far.” It will
work out. But that day we must champagne to forgive Him more. So we must have gossips
and we must have all the arrogant things by the time it is the end of Christmas.
This ego, yellow side one, is the one that presses your superego too much. It does. It
presses it so much sometimes that a person forgets that others are hurt by what they
talk. On the contrary they devise methods how to say things which are cutting, which
are hurting, which are painful to others. They say such things, I mean all the time
if you see. A person say from a village if he comes and sees he’ll think, are they
quarreling, what are they doing? I mean the whole discussion, even in the parliament I
was surprised the way they talked to each other, no bull will treat another bull that
way, see. Even a dog normally does not bark at another dog. No animal in the world all
the time is barking at its fellow man. No animal in the whole world I can tell you this
much. Only the human beings if two people are there all the time they are going, ha
ha ha ha all the time that way. How is it possible? His ego and her ego or maybe both
his ego are dashing at each other. There is a kind of a funny type of feeling that oh
I have mastered the thing, I have got the thing, I have got the point. I have proved
the point. But in that I have lost everything that was so beautiful and so much joy giving
within me. Actually a sensible person would recede from the place where two people are
having an argument.
Argument is a sign of tomfoolery. I haven’t seen any argument coming to any end whatsoever.
If it is then it is all right. But it never does come. Because, if say, you ask Me questions
I answer you, all right. If you do not like the answer give it up. But if you argue with
Me still and I argue with you where will you end? Argument is not going to lead you to
any knowledge but a very terrible ego developing into you. The whole modern concept is ego
oriented. All western countries are ego orientated. They want to develop your ego and pamper it.
There are so many other ways by which they do. Why I’m talking more about it because
we are all supposed to be western people and affluent people you see. Supposed to be very
wise and leading or misleading, I don’t know, the developing countries. So we have
to understand ourselves where are we as far as our understanding of things are concerned.
How ego is pampered within us is by a large-scale method. They work on your ego throughout to
have all these so-called enterprises. For example to a woman they’ll say, “Oh you
must have a waist like this and you must have a face like this and you must have –“ For
a man, “You must this kind of a body. You should be Mr. Universe or you should be something,”
so the man starts working on it immediately. You must, there so many people I have seen
running on the roads in this cold, I don’t understand. Like mad you know and some of
them are Member of Parliament. The whole night they keep awake and the whole day they are
running about. I say what are you doing? What is the need to do this? To keep good health
you must do it. To keep good health don’t work like mad, be a sensible and a wise person.
Wisdom is to be sought to keep good health, to be all right and not this kind of mad ego
orientated things. So then the one way is to excite your ego about your physique. Then
there is ego about, you must have a big car. You see people try to show off their possessions.
You have a big car, then they’re going about. I mean they really look to me like jokers,
that’s all they are. I mean car I can understand is a convenience and a good quality car if
somebody can afford it should have it because it is a headache to have a bad car. So it’s
all right. But by having a car you become something great. You may not have food in
the house but you must have a very good car to go about. And all these ideas come. Then
they will advertise, you see, this will be a very good car for you. What is it for you?
It is nothing but to pamper your ego. All these advertisements are nothing but by which
your ego is pampered.
All these things they’re treated. Now in America if you go every handle has to be different.
Everything has to be different. Why so much difference in everything? Why do you want
to have everything so different? Is it some aesthetics, you think in that? It is none
of the aesthetics but is just to pamper your ego. Even the so-called art connoisseurs are
nothing but ego pamperers. Your stamp collections this, that, all this is nothing but ego pampering.
And what a waste of time, you just think about it. This ego thing comes into us because we
are first of all, as I said, that in the west the living was very difficult. They had to
fight the nature. And when you have to fight the nature you have to develop your ego to
fight it. Or actually when you are fighting the nature the ego develops within you. And
then once that momentum has started in you it is very difficult to bring it down. It
is such a terrible disease that people have taken it for granted that that’s a part
of their lives. You are not your ego. You are not. When I say that you must surrender
yourself to God they think Mother why should we surrender? Yourself means that ego with
which you are identified. I don’t say that you surrender your wisdom. Or I can say surrender
your ego to your wisdom. But it is so difficult to give it up because we have learned to live
with it, identified with it. We just cannot think of life without our ego, we just cannot.
And it has gone to such an extent that we don’t even realize how far we have gone
in cruelty. Like, “I like this kind, I like that kind.” You go to somebody’s house
and you say like this. Is indecent to talk like that. It is vulgar to express, “I like.”
Who are you? Are you God? I want this. I want that. I am very particular about this. I’m
very, who are you? Just ask yourself a question, “Who am I? I’m the Spirit. I’m that
eternal being. Have I become that?” On the contrary we are hurting everybody’s Spirit
by our ego. Every moment when we talk to others we are hurting them. Actually people have
lost faith in God, because those who are in charge of God are so arrogant and so egoistical
that it has become impossible for anybody to think of God, which is beyond your ego.
You’ll be surprised, ego is absolutely superficial like a bubble. It is just like a balloon,
which can burst just like that. And it should go. It should go so that you should rise.
It should disappear so that your attention rises in your Spirit. And that you see the
whole world as a part of that Spirit that you are.
This is the boundary, which you have to cross and for that we have to take help from Christ.
Christ crucified himself. Why? Because what did He do? Did He loot people? Today you have
thousands of these thugs coming here and looting you. Nobody crucifies them. What did He do?
He just challenged the ego of these Romans and of these Jews, those who were angry with
Him, and that’s why He was crucified. And we have to crucify our ego now through His
Otherwise we are going to do the same again to ourselves that in our own being we crucify
our Christ by our ego. It is a very symbolic gesture of Christ, His birth in the most humble
place, in a very humble place. He is born in the optic thalamus, you can say, is the
place where there brain, all activities coming and all the, all sorts of problems there chasing
you, and there He lives and you have to just awaken Him there so that your ego is crucified
once for all. But I don’t think you fight your ego because it is not that important
to fight. You are fighting with your shadow. You have shadow which is called as ego which
is not to be fought and wasted, waste your energy on him. Just no need to fight, only
thing if you stand in the center of the light you don’t see any shadow. It is so simple
as that. If you stand in the center of light that is Christ you don’t see any shadow
anywhere. But when I say this I may sound like other people who give sermons, “Stand
in the shadow of Christ or stand in the light of Christ.” Now what does that mean? Where
is that light or where is that place where you should stand? That place is here – the
center of your optic thalamus where there is no thought. You have to stand in thoughtless
awareness. Many people who have had a problem with Agnya, many people who have come
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…thoughts will stop and they will be beyond thought. And this a very, very important Chakra
for Sahaja Yogis because when the Kundalini rises above, above the Agnya Chakra immediately
there is no thought. You do not get any thoughts from ego or superego. But there is wobbling
in the Agnya because of your imbalanced ways. And the imbalanced ways are, that sometimes
you are with ego or with superego. This has happened to our people in the West because
we have had so much of ego we got really tired of it. We got frightened with it. Then we
started taking to drugs and things to increase our superego. But by doing that what we are
doing is pushing by one end and bringing back another end and that’s how we are wobbling
our ego and superego by which we are not helping ourselves at all. So what one has to do is
to rise within oneself up to the point of Agnya and try to steady your Agnya.
There are many people have asked Me one question. How to steady the Agnya? Agnya is placed at
the crossing point of our nerves and also optic thalamus. Now, so it is said that if
you have wobbling eyes you’ll have a wobbling Agnya. You have to steady your eyes. You have
to soothe them. Now it is very, very out of date, ancient, old and all sorts of names
that you call it to a thing like that. But you must steady your eyes and steady them
in such a way that it is very soothing for the eyes. Which is the most soothing thing
for the eyes is the green grass. If you could see the green grass with your eyes means you
walk with your eyes on the ground. Your eyes will be soothed, your Agnya will be all right.
That’s why Christ said that, “I tell you about the adulterous eyes”. He talked about
adulterous eyes. The eyes with which you do adultery. Is a very common thing these days.
Every woman a man must see. Every man a woman must see. As if it is the most important job.
If you have not seen one woman you’re finished. I mean this is being modern. But I am an old
fashioned lady. And at the time of Christ he said, “You should not have adulterous
eyes.” And the ones who have adulterous eyes are, no more than any other, but our
Western Christians. Who all the time even in the church, even when they’re giving
sermons, their eyes are moving with adultery. These eyes have to be very, very pure, very,
very deep and very loving when you want to have your Agnya all right. Because you receive
through you eyes. Say if you have closed your eyes you do not put your attention to anything
because your eyes are closed. You are not adding more thoughts to yourself. But if your
eyes are open you are adding much more thoughts because everywhere the eyes go the attention
goes and you see things and create thoughts and put in them. So your attention which has
to go to the Spirit, which has to go to God, which has to shine through the window of Divine.
This beautiful thing is ruined by the way we use our eyes and we do not respect it.
There’s nothing so pure and beautiful as the grass on the ground or the ground itself,
which takes our feet, which supports us, which looks after us, enriches us. We should put
our eyes on the Mother Earth instead of looking at every person.
But from Sahaja Yoga point of view now many of you know what happens to your eyes when
you look at somebody. Maybe a entity might enter your eyes. And it is, you’ll be amazed
that it is the play of the entity what we call this so-called flirting is. I’ve talked
about it before also and people didn’t like it when I told them about it. But I have seen
actual entities entering from eyes to eyes. I have seen very simple people who come down
to such places, say in a party. In a party people are just exchanging entities from one
eye to another. Once it goes to another person he puts his entity into another person. And
that third goes into another person. All the time your attention is diverted. And you feel
it is attracted towards something, you do not know why it is attracted. Now the certain
symbols are also made like that. To add up to the problems, you see all the society is
working at it. That you should appear in such a way that every man should look at you. Every
woman should look at you. Why? What is the use? Supposing I look at you what do I get?
What do I get by looking at a person? What is the advantage just looking at a person?
We are wasting such a lot of energy for what? In the same way if you are walking on the
roads, we are seeing some beautiful things all right. If you have to buy something, all
right go ahead, see those things, whatever you have to select is all right. But all the
time just because your eyes are such, you are just doing it and you do not know the
reason why you are doing like this, all the time why your eyes are wobbling. And that
is a sure and certain sign for a person to become mad. Absolutely, that’s a sure and
certain sign is, when a person is mad how do you make it out that a person is lunatic.
If you see his eyes the iris in the eyes are all the time wobbling. They cannot keep it
steady. Or they are sick they’re also, you can see, that these eyes are all the time
wobbling. There is no steadiness. Not only this but you have seen those people who have
come in the Sahaja Yoga when they close their eyes they find their eyes are flickering.
Their eyelids are flickering. That means there is some sort of a disturbance in the Kundalini
rising. Whole tension if you call it as hundred then at least eighty percent of it comes through
our eyes. Then how important it is to protect our eyes from all kind of useless activities
we are doing.
Christ - Christ’s life shows so many aspects of how to respect others. But one of them
which has been very much misused throughout is that of the prostitute. He saved the prostitute,
He saved her no doubt. But you spoil these prostitutes. A good woman you make her into
prostitutes. You give her ideas by which she becomes a prostitute. A good Huswife (old
English word like housewife) is turned into a prostitute by an egotistical man. Young
small girls who are virgins are being destroyed by your dirty glances. Do you realize this?
That you are doing just the opposite what Christ had done? And you say that He saved,
Christ, so even if we are prostitutes He’ll save us. But why be prostitutes? This is such
a stupid style of thinking. That we should become prostitutes so that Christ will save
One has to think about all these things in the proper light of Sahaja Yoga. Unless and
until you are realized My talk is just useless for you. But once you are realized you will
know that if you glance at someone you might suddenly get a headache at the back. You might
feel a dart has gone into your head or something has happened. You might feel that you’re
blinding with somebody’s face and you will get all kinds of experiences by which you
will know how important are your eyes. All your nervousness and everything can be cured
if you have pure eyes. But it is such a vicious circle that through your eyes you gather all
the bad and is accumulated in the Agnya and you have to clear the Agnya to make the eyes
clear. It’s a vicious circle. But it can start at a point as I said, we have to ask
for forgiveness. Secondly we have to bring Christ in our Agnya Chakra. Thirdly we have
to give up all drugs and all intoxicants and all smoking.
That happens automatically when you are a Sahaja Yogi, it will work out. But eyes express
the whole of your being, your brain, your body, your limbs everything. And if your Agnya
is all right then you eyes are perfectly all right. They emit nothing but love wherever
they glance. Only with a glance of your eyes you can raise the Kundalini. Only with the
glance of your eyes you can cure people. Only with your glance you can bring joy into the
destroyed and the ruined people. So these eyes which you see are the windows of your
being, of your heart. When the Spirit is expressed through your eyes, you must have noticed yourself,
that when the Kundalini rises then the eyes become dilated. And a realized soul has got
black eyes because they have these eyes are dilated. At least when I see them they are
all dilated black eyes. Apart from that a realized soul can be made out by his eyes
which are sparkling. There’s a sparkle like diamonds. They sparkle all the time and you
can make out from the eyes that this person is a realized soul. There’s a tremendous
difference between a non-realized soul’s eyes and a realized soul’s eyes. So you
can imagine how your Spirit sees through your eyes. But if the eyes are not pure it doesn’t
stay there long. So if we have to understand Christ physically we have to respect our eyes.
Mentally we have to give up all that is impure in our mind.
Now, so we come to the impurities of the mind. And the impurities of mind are, there are
so many poisons, you know, about. I mean there are books and books written about the poison.
And the psychologists are supposed to take out all your poisons. I don’t know if they
can do it at all. But they have the worst Agnya. All these psychologists have the worst
Agnya and I don’t think they are capable of really giving any relief to people who
suffering mentally. Mental sufferings are of two types. Say the same thing is that one
MOTHER SAYS ASIDE: Vibrations are so much, I can’t stand it.
One type of mental troubles are where people oppress you very much. You see you go on bearing
the cross. Now this is a very wrong idea people have about Christ. Bearing the cross doesn’t
mean that anybody who tries to oppress you should go on taking the enslavement upon yourself.
You’re not to enslave to anyone whatsoever. Anybody who tries to make a slave out of you,
you should deny it absolutely. You should say Hum, I am. Who are you to dominate me?
Anyone whether you are of a black skin, or a red skin or a yellow skin, nobody has right
to dominate anyone in this whole world. And if anybody is doing it, “Oh what to do now,
after all you see we are poor people, or we are like this or he’s supporting,” and
all that. Then they are running away from their duty towards themselves. Such people
cannot get Realization.
Slaves are not going to become kings. So the slavery that is supposed to be confused with
bearing the cross is another confusion of modern times. We have to rise in our self-respect.
And we have to understand that no one in this world has a right to dominate us.
But then what is bearing of the cross is? First of all the people of His level never
suffer. It’s just a joke going on. It’s a Leela, it’s a play going on for them.
They never suffer, and even if they so called act as suffering they just do it because they
want to do it. They are not helpless people. They are not slaves. And those who think that
by bearing it up and by suffering it we are becoming Christians they should know they
are psychological cases. And if they are crying and weeping and all the time saying, “What
to do, you see I am in love and my lover tortures me.” You are neither in love neither you
have a lover. It is a kind of a psychological clubbing. That he is a dominating man and
you like his domination, that’s why you are together. Is a simple fact. So every human
being has his own self-respect. And he must respect his self that is the Spirit within
him. And nothing should dominate it. Whether you belong to this country or that country,
or this ism or that ism. All this will break down.
[The red part is not present in the tape with FV. Also in the FV’s tape the following
sentence is a single sentence, spoken unbroken by Shri Mataji]
Under the rule of God nobody has the right to dominate anybody’s Spirit.
But when you are given freedom you go to the other side that is Mr. Ego. You do not know
how to use your freedom. So you try to dominate others. Your freedom is, everybody’s freedom
is in danger. You’re on top of everyone, and torturing everybody’s souls. And you
are dominating by land and by properties or by possessions. So either this way or that
way, mentally if you are of this category or that category, you are against yourself.
Just be in the center and see for yourself. Just be looking at it. Are you emitting love
towards another person? If you are a slave how can you love? You cannot. If you are free
and abandoned how can you love? Love has its own bondages very sweet and beautiful. You
have to live with them. You enjoy those bondages. For a little child will come to your house
and he will spoil your house no doubt, and that he should do. And you should enjoy that
spoiling. Then your freedom if it is challenged by a little child’s crying, then you are
not wise people. This is abandonment. Or I would say it is loneliness. It is cutting
off from the primordial, from the big one, from the large one that you are. Is not to
be able to tolerate the freedom of others. A child has no freedom to cry in the house.
What sort of freedom you conceive of. A mother has no right to say something she wants to
say about her child, which is her duty to tell him what is right and wrong. If the son
does not have right to eat whatever he likes in his own mother’s family then what sort
of freedom do you have? It’s such a confusion of things.
So this kind of freedom is just the opposite and extreme of enslavement. But in the center
is love where you are bound by everyone. I am bound by My children. Yes, I am. I am proud
of them. They bound Me and I bound them too. It’s a mutual bounding which we enjoy among
ourselves. There is such a give and take when there is such a bondage of love. But do we
understand the importance of bondage of love? At the slightest pretext we break it. Say
wife says, “I would like to go out today”. The husband says “Why? I am very tired don’t
you understand?“ Or if the husband says, “I feel like eating something,” or some
particular thing he says pancake or something, a small thing. “Oh I am very tired every
time you are demanding.” If she could just think by making that little thing he would
be so very happy. She should be dying to know what he wants. And he should be dying to do
what she wants. And then enjoy each other’s company or you are wasting all your properties
that you have as human beings. You don’t know how much you are wasting from each other.
Every moment is filled with such beautiful bondages, where exchanges are there. What
have you gained? The way you are fighting. The way you are going about. What have you
gained let me see? When you die you have to announce in the paper that XYZ is dead and
you find there is nobody. And you have even to pay for people to visit you when you die.
This is the case today. Such dryness, such emptiness, such loneliness exists. What have
you achieved through this. So this bondage we have to. And there is no question of sacrifice
you see, the way. We must sacrifice for the family. What are you sacrificing? I mean if
you pay for your family you get the joy out of it. That’s why you do it. If you have
to lead a nice good life you are not sacrificing anything but you are gaining by that, leading
a good life. If your wife says, “Don’t go to the pub,” and if you do not go there,
then you should not say she is an orthodox, old fashioned this that, that and that and
that. But instead you should thank you stars that in this modern times also that there
is somebody who’s telling you the truth. Because the whole edifice has come up, do
you mean to say that truth should not be told? All this is falsehood in which you are living.
And if you have to be happy come down to reality.
Friends, also same thing. With the friends what sort of relations do we have with our
friends? What do we expect from them? Sending them a Christmas card and then if they don’t
send, feeling bad about it. There are no deeper bondages we have not lived with them. If you
allow our self to be bound by them, they will be bound by us. You better try this. Try to
be bound by them. Don’t be afraid of anybody else. Just try to be bound by others and you’ll
be amazed how much they will be giving you. I am a living example of this. I can tell
you I am a living example of this. I am bound by all of you. If somebody says, “Mother
when are you going to leave us?” No I cannot. I cannot. I am just bound by you. I just do
not want to leave because I love you very much. How can I leave you? It’s impossible
for Me. So then, what do I gain out of this life? Everything that is in this world. What
do you want Me to get? I cannot even count what I can get out of it. Immeasurable, ocean.
I become an ocean Myself. Break your ideas about your own personal freedom and liberation,
is liberating your intelligence. You‘re liberating your own wisdom. And the sweetness
and the beauty which is never perishable whether you are old or young. That is going to be
your own. But these poisons that are being built outside and inside you, please throw
them away. These are mental poisons. Through Agnya you can take them out. You see, this
is an opening also through which many things go out. Try to work it out. Look at the tree
with love and you’ll find that the tree itself is giving you the joy of its creation.
Because you’ll become thoughtless. And the creator who has made that beautiful tree will
be pouring all that joy which is stored into it into you. Every human being is a store
of joy. Unlimited, I assure you, believe Me. And don’t waste them because somebody is
not properly dressed, or he’s not according to the way you want him to be which you learnt
in your public school. Every doorstep, everywhere there is beauty lying, do not miss it. But
if you have possessiveness about it, an adultery about it, then you can never enjoy them. You
can never enjoy all that beauty, all that store, all that wealth that is in every human
being every moment it is bubbling.
For Agnya it’s a good thing, Christmas is coming. And at the time that when I have to
wish you Happy Christmas, that at this occasion I am speaking about Agnya Chakra in which,
what I said is, Agnya is one must know what to order and how to obey. Obey the Divine.
Obey your elders. Obey your self and not your ego. And then you can order also others. Not
only human beings, but you can even order the sun and the moon and all the winds and
everything in the world. Everything you can control, everything with this Agnya. You try
one thing. If you know somebody is going to do something wrong, just take his name and
put it to Agnya. He’ll not do it, try it. This is a trick I’m telling about for those
who are realized souls not for those who are not yet realized but those who are realized
can try. If the other person is doing something wrong you can try your Agnya. Anything you
order on your Agnya will be respected but your Agnya must have Christ there. Because
you have the great support awakened within you, which does not exist here but into every
man’s head. It is all pervading into all small atoms and molecules, it is everywhere
into the sun and any place you go. It is there. So try to develop your Agnya that is the mastery
of your self. Those who have a good Agnya can master anything and understand that the
idea about mastering worldly things and mastering human beings and mastering this and some of
them are mastering in, say, other crafts and things, best thing is to master your Agnya.
And you really become the master of yourself by which you can master many things. And today
on this great day when I’m wishing you a Happy Christmas, I wish you to have the most
powerful Agnya, that people when they see your forehead should know that Christ is reborn
again with in you.