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You know her as an actress. Now hear Ashley Judd speak out on her biggest role yet.
Well, welcome to The 700 Club. I think America breathed a sigh of relief when this stalemate
was over on a Friday night. And even though the politicians just avoided a shut down,
Washington is already gearing up for the next round in the fight over government spending.
This one is going to be a biggie.
Well, Charlene Israel has this look at what's ahead and some of the winners and losers in
last week's battle over the budget.
So who won on the political side on the cuts, the nearly 39 billion dollars? Republicans
win. Just a few months ago, Democrats called such levels of cuts draconian.
We've had to bring this president kicking and screaming to the table to cut spending.
But on the so-called righters to cut funding to Planned Parenthood and NPR, the Democrats
win by beating back that effort.
House Republicans needed to pick a fight. And I think John Boehner fought the good fight.
I think he drove a hard bargain here. I want to see the details, but from what I know,
it sounds like John Boehner got a good deal, probably not good enough for me to support
it, but a good deal nonetheless.
In a speech Wednesday night, the president will lay out his plans to slash the deficit,
including tax hikes and cuts to Medicare and Medicaid spending. But his top advisor says
the cuts can't hurt the economic recovery.
I think if they're not careful cuts, yes, it could. And that's where the president said,
"Listen, we can't take a machete. We have to take a scalpel, and we're going to have
to cut. So we're going to have to look carefully."
Meanwhile, the US is about to hit the legal ceiling for our national debt, 14.3 trillion.
And Congress must decide whether to raise that ceiling.
I think there will be some kind of negotiations, and, yes, it probably will go up to some sort
of a deadline. The debt ceiling deadline is a moving deadline. It's not a date-certain
deadline like the government shutdown. Our strategy is not to default. Our strategy is
to get spending under control.
If not the country could face dire consequences.
Default by the United States would precipitate a crisis worse than the one we just went through.
The implications of that for our financial system, for our fiscal policy, for our economy
would be catastrophic.
The final vote on this year's budget comes in just a few days. But negotiations for the
coming year are expected to be even tougher, because the stakes will be much higher. Charlene
Israel, CBN News.
Thanks, Charlene. David Brody is with us. He's our DC political correspondent. David,
it looks like John Boehner came out of here as a real champion. He stood taller than any
of us thought he could do.
I think so, Pat. If you think about it, Boehner wanted about 30 billion dollars in cuts. He
got 40 billion. And, look, I think for Boehner and the Republicans this is about making sure
that they can actually govern to a degree of what they have up here, which is just the
House, but he was able to say, "Look, we're not going to shut down the government," and
that is going to be a winning message to independents for sure. And at the same time, like we talked
about, he was able to cut spending. So he kind of did the daily double up here, Pat.
And not everybody is happy, but when is anybody happy up here, Pat? Not everybody is.
Well, this is just the prelim. The big one is yet to come. What are you hearing?
Yes. This was just act one, Pat. Just act one. Act two is coming. That's the raising
of the debt ceiling, which should happen sometime before July, sometime before early July. Then,
of course, the 2012 budget. And so let's just remember here that John Boehner is telling
the House Republicans, "Look, you've got your 40 billion. Now, we move on to the debt ceiling.
We get some more from President Obama," because remember, President Obama wants to raise the
debt ceiling, and he wants John Boehner to give him a clean bill. In other words, nothing
attached. Just raise the debt ceiling. John Boehner says, quote, "not a chance, Mr. President."
And so there is going to be something along with that debt ceiling, whether it be a potential
balanced budget amendment or there will be more cuts to spending, a lot more cuts to
spending. And then, of course, the 2012 budget, where Paul Ryan's budget comes out with six
trillion dollars in cuts to spending. So this is just the beginning, Pat. As a matter of
fact, the debt ceiling up here, the fight over the debt ceiling is being called Armageddon.
And it hasn't even started yet.
Well, David, do you know, as Boehner said, we were talking about billions. Now, we're
going to be talking about trillions, because Paul Ryan, I think it's six trillion dollars
he's cutting. And this is a pretty substantial budget he's proposing.
Yes, there's no doubt. And this is part of the tricky part for Republicans. Not so much
Paul Ryan, but more the GOP in general, because this budget calls for basically privatizing
to a degree Medicare and block grants for Medicaid. And so, of course, the Democrats
will trot out their line that the Republicans want to cut programs and spending for poor
people in America. And so these are the battle lines. Now, the president, of course, is going
to have, as Charlene mentioned, a speech this week on entitlement reform, on Wednesday.
And so the president, and Pat, we've seen this before, it's the word triangulation,
because he's doing what Bill Clinton did, which is the president is going to say, "We
need to cut spending. I'm going to look at entitlement spending." And so he's going to
try to position in himself in the middle while Paul Ryan and the GOP is on the right with
their six trillion. And the liberal Democrats, Barney Frank and company, are on the left.
And the president will say, "Look, I'm taking the reasoned approach, the small but steady
hand." That's the line from the White House.
Harry Reid was pointing at all that debate. He got rather extreme in some of the stuff
he said. But this is the Tea Party trying to take away benefits from grandmother and
all that. What do you think? Is the Tea Party playing a major role in what's coming?
Oh, there's no doubt. They're driving the conversation. Let's remember, President Obama,
when he first released his fiscal 2011 budget, the one we're talking about right now where
this deal supposedly was struck, he wanted 40 billion dollars in increases. Now it's
actually a 40 billion dollars in cuts that we're talking about. So the Tea Party has
fundamentally changed the conversation about should we cut spending or increase spending
to how much are we going to cut. There's no doubt. That train has left the station. And
so this is now a challenge for the Democrats to figure out how they're going to maneuver
in the future.
David Brody, thank you so much. We look forward to hearing more from you. Lee Webb has the
rest of our top stories from the CBN Newsroom. Lee.
Pat, another strong aftershock rattled northeast Japan today, the second major aftershock in
less than a week, and it sparked a tsunami warning for the already crippled coast, but
thankfully a big wave never formed. There are no reports of damage or injuries at this
point. The aftershock comes exactly one month, though, after the devastating magnitude nine
earthquake and tsunami that hit Japan, killing at least 25,000 people and creating the largest
nuclear crisis in years. Pat.
My heart feels for those Japanese people in this crisis. You remember that devastating
earthquake that hit Haiti. It was a .7 or 7.0. I think this aftershock was something
like seven in Japan.
They've had actually several aftershocks that have been over a seven.
The other day they had two back to back. They were 7.9 or something like that.
It sits on an earthquake fault, and they have as many as 1,400 little minor tremors a year
over there. It's just one of those things that Japan is very unstable. And so it's terrible.
Well, Operation Blessing is trying to help the people as best we can. And Lee Webb has
a report on that.
That's right, Pat. Operation Blessing sponsored an eye clinic for people who lost their glasses
in this disaster, and it provided bicycles for children.
Everyone was crying with tears of joy, and they're amazed that people have come all the
way from American to do these acts of compassion for the Japanese people. And it's just a joy
to be able to demonstrate Christian compassion in a place like Japan. And it's a wonderful
experience. We're helping to eliminate or alleviate at least some of the suffering there.
Operation Blessing is often a spark that lights a fire of hope in the hearts of those that
are afflicted by these disasters.
A spark that lights a fire of hope. Operation Blessing is also sending 20 diesel generators
to fishermen and their families living on islands off the coast of Japan. And to learn
more about what Operation Blessing is doing, you can see the complete interview with Bill
Horan at
Israel and Hamas have agreed to a ceasefire for now. It appears Israel's military response
to terrorist attacks by Hamas was enough to stop the violence. Chris Mitchell has that
story now from Jerusalem.
Hamas and other terrorist groups launched more than 120 rockets and mortars into Israel
since last Thursday before Israel and Hamas agreed to a tentative ceasefire. Israel stepped
up air strikes against terrorist targets in Gaza after an anti-tank missile was fired
at an Israeli school bus driving near Gaza last week, critically injuring a teenage boy.
According to reports, 19 Hamas and Islamic jihad terrorists and two civilians were killed
in Israeli strikes. Hamas apparently agreed to the ceasefire because of Israel's tough
response and the success of its Iron Dome anti-rocket system. The Iron Dome's debut
on the battlefield was incredibly successful, intercepting 100 percent of the longer-range
Grad rockets launched at larger Israeli cities.
This is a great technological achievement. It's the first time these types of missiles
have been intercepted by Israeli technology.
Prime Minister Netanyahu praised the engineers and soldiers operating the system, but warned
it couldn't protect everyone.
We're in the†first stage, but we went out in a sprint. We'll still have developments
of this system, but we can't cover every house, every citizen, every site in Israel.
Still, many civilians were encouraged by the success.
Before, it was scarier. You heard a siren, you needed to jump into the shelters. Now
you hear it, you stop and look up. It explodes and that's it.
For now it's quiet, but no doubt both sides are preparing for the next round. Chris Mitchell,
CBN News, Jerusalem.
Pat, there's no question that this Israeli leadership has strong resolve, but it also
has technology on its side.
It's extraordinary. We have struggled in the United States to find something, an anti-missile
defense, and we have not been successful in doing anything like this Iron Dome. This is
marvelous, because I was there in the middle of that last war they had, and Israel is so
vulnerable to strikes from Hezbollah. Now, they've got something to defend themselves,
and once the word gets out to those terrorists, they will realize that they're going to be
on the receiving end of a lot of firepower, but they're not going to be able to dish it
out with impunity. And so I congratulate the Israelis. Something else we've been talking
about on this program is the rising price of crude oil. I think it's going up considerably
higher. And I said Sheik Yamani the former oil minister of Saudi Arabia, has said if
any disruption takes place in the Gulf, it could go to 300 dollars. Well, it's edging
up to 120 dollars a barrel. And Lee has that story.
That's right, Pat. Oil prices continue to climb now at 112 dollars a barrel, and some
analysts looking for it to hit 150 dollars a barrel in the next few months. The rise
is being felt at the pump. The average price for a gallon of gas: 3.76. Experts say it
could go to four dollars soon, and maybe even five down the road. Gold and silver are also
setting record highs. An ounce of gold hit 1,476 dollars and silver went over 41 dollars
an ounce, a 31 year high. Pat.
I mentioned, Lee, we in the United States need an energy policy. We don't have one.
The administration is incapable, because of all these interest groups, these radical interest
groups have all got their little agendas. And they're not thinking about the good of
America. We need to go to some alternate to oil. And the best alternate I know of is natural
gas. Natural gas has been selling around four dollars a thousand, which is very cheap. And
it's cheaper than coal. It doesn't put out much in the way of noxious fumes and greenhouse
gases and all this other. And we have huge amounts of oil if we just will get on it.
We have shale beds all over the west. We have shale in Pennsylvania. We have shale down
in Texas and Louisiana and up in Arkansas. We've got all kinds ofóand in the shale is
enormous, trillions and trillions and trillions of cubic feet of gas. We can convert our automobiles
to burn on natural gas. And we have the means of getting free from the Arab oil cartel.
But so far, nobody is making a move on it. And all they do is debate and argue back and
forth about this little thing and that little thing. America is in a crisis, and when you
start having to pay five, six, seven, eight, ten dollars a gallon for gasoline, there's
going to be a huge cry that I'm afraid once again they're going to make the wrong decision,
like tapping the petroleum reserve, like that's the answer. It's not. Lee.
A massive asteroid will fly by earth on November 8th, just a few months from now. Experts say
this is the closest earth approach an asteroid this size has made since 1976. The asteroid
is 1,300 feet in diameter. It will be too close to the sun to be observed at first,
but scientists are saying that it could be visible by later in the day. The asteroid
will pass within the orbit of the moon, around 200,000 miles from earth. Fascinating, Pat.
Yes, it is.
Fascinating enough to write a book about.
I wrote a book. Really, Lee, if you read the Bible, it seems like to me the only thing
that will fulfill the words of Jesus and the words of Revelation would be an asteroid hitting
the earth. And it's going to happen. And the Bible says, "I saw another angel fly in the
midst of Heaven, and he had what looked like a burning mountain, and he hurled it into
the sea." What better description of an asteroid? A burning mountain.
But the implications of that are almost hard to describe.
My book, The End of the Age, it had one that was one kilometer in diameter, I guess it
was, but it weighed three billion pounds. And I did the science on it, had to research.
And the effect is enormous. And once it hits the earth's crust, all kinds of bad things
happen, because volcanoes begin to explode and tsunamis take place, and devastation follows
in their wake.
For everybody.
But you read the Bible. Read it carefully, and that's what it says is going to happen.
And Jesus said, "Except those days were shortened, there would be no flesh remaining." There
won't be anybody alive on the earth. So this is one of theóthey've got something they
call the "extincter," which is enough to wipe out everybody. And it wouldn't take much.
One of them apparently wiped out the dinosaurs.
Well, I think one of the things that we've seen in the last few years with all of the
natural disasters that have happened is just how fragile we are on earth. It doesn't take
much to upset a lot.
We're doing news now, but you need to put your hand in the hand of the man who stilled
the water. It's time we put our hands in His hand, because in terms of disaster, He is
the only one that can really take us through. Nobody else, nothing, no power on earth can
do it. Terry.
Well, they call him a giant slayer, and he's taken the Senate by storm.
I don't think that people of faith ought to shrink away from being in the public arena.
Meet South Dakota's John Thune. That's next. Plus, actress Ashley Judd joins us live, so
don't go away.
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David Brody sits down with the Donald to ask him about his possible run for president.
If I wasn't serious, I wouldn't be sitting with you, to be honest with you.
And his message to evangelicals.
I think that they want to get somebody in that's going to win it and perhaps they look
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On tomorrow's 700 Club.
Well, we thought he might be the great hope for the Republican party for the presidency,
but after a trial balloons were floated, he shot them down and said, "No, I'm staying
in the Senate." But he's one of Washington's brightest Republican stars, and he said, "No,
I'm staying here. I'm not going for the White House." So he can make a greater impact in
the Senate. David Brody recently spent an afternoon with South Dakota Senator John Thune
to find out the reasons behind that decision.
John Thune has what a lot of people want in a presidential candidate. But his sights aren't
on the White House, at least for now. This small town guy from Murdo, South Dakota, is
very comfortable exerting his Christian influence as a United States senator.
I have a Christian worldview, and so it shapes the way that I view issues. And I don't apologize
for that, and I don't think that people of faith ought to shrink away from being in the
public arena.
Thune doesn't shrink away from a fight. He's the fourth-ranking Republican senator and
as chairman of the Senate Republican Policy Committee, he is responsible for coordinating
GOP legislation. CBN News followed Thune recently during meetings on the Hill, like this one,
where he's talking about budget negotiations with members of the American-Israel Public
Affairs Committee. Thune's day moves fast, moving from budget meetings to hearings about
entitlement reform. Then after quickly meeting the press to push the GOP message of the day,
he's back at his office, meeting with constituents concerned about the health care law. Sometimes
Thune's day doesn't end until he makes the rounds at cocktail parties, combining small
talk and pushing GOP policy. But ultimately for Thune, the battle isn't about Republicans
versus Democrats. He says it's about the country's future. Thune questions President Obama's
leadership, as he points out the administration's upcoming budget does not tackle the hard issues
of entitlement reform.
When you're the president of the United States and you know that the biggest issue facing
you is this cliff that we're about ready to head over if we don't get this spending and
debt situation under control, it's very irresponsible not to take the action that is necessary to
fix the problem.
The Tea Party wants Thune and Republicans to fix the problem, but Thune says it's going
to take some time.
As much as we're going to push the envelope as far as we can, we're probably not going
to get everything they want accomplished in these next two years. Particularly with a
Democrat president and a Democrat Senate, that there are limitations to what we are
going to be able to accomplish and to keep expectations realistic.
So what can voters expect from Thune? Well, his legislative track record includes a 100
percent rating last year from the American Conservative Union. He's also taken a lead
role in crafting energy and budget legislation and on the pro-family side he's voted to prohibit
late-term abortions, stop research on embryos, and supported a federal marriage amendment.
Thune's philosophy is that while our country is in a fiscal mess, that doesn't mean social
issues should be on the back burner.
I think most social conservatives agree that we want a government that's smaller, a government
that's more responsive and accountable and all that. But we also need to recognize that
there are important issues that impact the basic glue, the foundation, that holds our
culture together. And that comes down to the family unit and we can't ignore those.
Thune has a lot on his plate, but he's shown a tough gritty side as well. In 2004, he became
a Republican giant slayer when he beat Tom Daschle, the sitting Democrat majority leader.
And while Thune won't be taking on another giant in 2012, maybe the former high school
and college basketball star with the good looks and money jump shot could settle things
on the court with the president. (Interviewing): What do you think? Could you take Obama one
on one? I think you couldóyou've got the height advantage to a degree, do you not?
This is true. This is true. That's right. And I don't know if he has game or not. I'm
waiting for my invitation from the White House to play, but I don't expect it is going to
come anytime soon. But yes, I think that will be a good way to settle a lot of these big
issues. We'll play one on one and winner gets to choose how we do entitlement reform and
tax reform.
There's a lot riding on that game.
Yes, that would be. That would be an interesting way to fix it.
For now, Thune's holding court in the United States Senate and he's got game. David Brody,
CBN News, Washington.
Well, I think many people were sad when he decided not to do it, but he's a very wise
guy. The thing about South Dakota I found, those people are so pretty. Really.
They're Scandinavians.
Is that what it is? You're Norwegian. Okay. Well, seriously, you go around that state,
all these handsome guys, beautiful woman. And John Thune's wife is very lovely. They're
both evangelical Christians, lovely people. And I was so thrilled to see him beat Tom
Daschle. We were so disgusted with the way he held up nominees to the various courts
that I think the nation wanted him out. And so Thune had a landslide of support to beat
Well, I hope his decision to stay in the Senate is good one, but he will be missed on the
national scene, I think.
Really. He would have, I think, had the nomination of the Republican party going away. But he
knows what's best. And so we salute him. So he's a good man.
Well, coming up, it's the second biggest crime in the world behind drug trafficking, and
one of the fastest growing. See what it is and what's being done to stop it.
Up next, you know her as an actress. Now hear Ashley Judd speak out on her biggest role
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Well, for years, Ashley Judd has graced the silver screen in films such as Double Jeopardy
and Heat. But recently, her role as an actress has been dwarfed by her role as a humanitarian.
She has traveled around the world as part of what she calls her true calling: speaking
out against the modern day slavery. Every year, millions of men, women, and children
become victims of human trafficking. Eighty percent of these people are women, and up
to 50 percent of them are minors. Here's one woman's story from South Africa.
He raped me. I was 15. I called my mother to say I wanted to come home, and I'm pregnant.
And my mother said I must stay way. I was never to come back home.
The more vulnerable you are in your home situation, the more vulnerable you'll be in this exploitation.
You get tricked, you get transported, you get trapped, and eventually you get used.
Seeing the pimps around there, they're like enslaved, really enslaved. They don't have
a choice.
If you don't want to go, he'll beat you. And you still have to go out after they beat you.
One day this man is going to kill me. He won't let me get out. You can be pregnant, you have
a child, you still go back to the streets.
The guys are the toughest criminals around and they know exactly what they're doing and
they know exactly how to make you as dependent as possible. Ninety-five percent, it will
be with drugs.
Heroin is a very complicated drug. You must smoke it so it doesn't give you time to think
about anything important in your life.
So most of the prostitutes, I would say 90 percent, are actually being tricked, or trafficked
in some kind. So they're really in slavery.
You're being transported, and often to a place where you don't even speak the language. You
can't even ask for help.
And this girl may be from Johannesburg, and they take her to Bloemfontein. Or they say
they're from Johannesburg and they take her to Pretoria.
These kids are being raped, and they are being abused day and night.
If I bring the cops there, they will kill me personally. Never you can talk.
And this is somebody else's daughter, somebody else's child. That person had dreams, hoping
that my child will be an actress one day. My child will be a doctor.
A social worker. That was my dream.
Meanwhile, your child is a prostitute on the street, and so her life has been destroyed.
It has been stolen away from her.
The money that they make, they give to their pimps. And they get beaten every day. They
get abused by the pimps. They get abused by the police, and they get abused by the clients.
I have sex with him, and he takes his money back. He puts a gun against my head.
Sometimes guys pick them up and it's like six or eight boys waiting. And they rape her,
and some of the girls get even pointed with knives.
I can't handle it again. I had enough.
And they're just living for survival. They've lost hope in life. They're outcast. They're
rejected. I know when they have an encounter with Jesus, their life will never be the same.
It's only by the grace of God that He can totally set them free.
This is the worst that can happen to a person. Human beings should not ever be for sale.
I just want to leave this life. I don't want to go on.
Actress Ashley Judd has traveled across the globe to raise awareness on human trafficking.
She's spoken with victims of sexual slavery and she's seen firsthand the damage it causes.
And she's written about it in her new memoir. It's called All That Is Bitter and Sweet.
Ashley, thank you so much for being with us today.
My pleasure. Good morning.
You have seen the consequences of human trafficking up close and personally. How bad is it?
Well, I am appreciative of the way you introduced the topic. It is in fact the second largest
industry in the world. And what Americans may not realize is that the slave trade right
now is far greater than it ever was at its very height in the 19th century. And I appreciate
your focus on sex slavery, but labor slavery is a huge problem both domestically and worldwide
as well. And by the time we're done today, I hope that we'll give Americans some really
good awareness about the difficulty of sex and labor slavery in this country and some
resources that they personally can access to become modern day abolitionists.
How can this happen to people, Ashley? I know that it happens in different ways and different
countries. What are some of the things that actually force people into sexual slavery,
Well, it is an issue of both supply and demand. Demand really drives it, though. There are
men who want to buy sex. They want coerced, forced prostituted sex with children and adults,
girls, boys, men, and women. And I really think that Christians in particular have an
extraordinary moral responsibility to place the focus on demand and abolish demand, and
say it is not okay to buy sex off anyone. On the supply side, it's really poverty, disempowerment,
and gender inequality that place girls and women in particular in a position of forced
prostitution, Sometimes there is something called the choiceless choice. I've met a lot
of women in the 13 countries in the global south, to which I've traveled, spending a
lot of time in brothels and slums and forcibly displaced persons camps and makeshift schools
and clinics that in this country would actually be condemned buildings, and in hospices literally
holding people who are dying from preventable diseases that they've contracted during slavery.
And the choiceless choice is a mother who has had more children than she can possibly
feed, who is unable to prevent diseases that she contracts with a mosquito bite such as
malaria, and in order to survive and feed herself, she may be forced into economic prostitution.
And so there are a lot of points of insertion where we can disrupt this cycle of poverty
and violence: economic empowerment of girls and women, making sure that girls in particular
have access to education, improvements to public health, and, as I said, demand abolition,
making it not okay for anyone, anywhere, any time to buy sex.
We mentioned in the piece that we showed just before I introduced you that very often the
very people in government that you think would be helping some of these women and some of
these children are in fact a part of the problem. On one of your trips you went to Thailand.
You actually sat down and spent time with six prostitutes there. Tell us about what
you learned from them, what they had to say, what it spoke to you about.
Well, there has been a really good recent study conducted by a woman named Melissa Farley.
It's a multi-country study of women in forced prostitution. And well over 90 percent said
that their most urgent need was to get out of prostitution. And the average age of entry
into prostitution in this country is between 12 and 14. And the overwhelming majority of
all prostitutes have been sexually abused in childhood, often through incest. So it
is those abuses of authority and position that set girls and women up to be forced into
prostitution. That is true whether it's in Thailand or in the United States of America.
And a lot of times, it's that economic asymmetry, where this person has the economic power and
this person, the girl or woman, does not. And it's that abuse of power that perpetuates
sex and labor slavery.
In the book, you talk about going to Goma in the Congo. And there women are being abused
terribly, maybe more horribly than any place I've ever heard of in the world. And it has
to do with politics. Talk about that.
It does. It has to do with politics and it also has to do with North American consumption
patterns. I use the word sort of jokingly, but hey, there's a little grain of truth in
it, I am kind of addicted to my electronics, to my computer and my iPhone. And the things
inside of my electronics that make it light up, that make it beep, that allow it to show
me what I'm typing on the screen, are called the three T's. They are minerals that are
found in vast abundance in the democratic republic of Congo, tin, tantalum, and tungsten.
And every time I buy one of those products, I am contributing to conflict mineral mining
in Congo. And what the armed militias are doing who want to access that vast mineral
wealth is raping girls and women in particular. They are using gender violence to create instability,
to literally clear villages and villagers off the land, so they may have unimpeded access
to that mineral wealth. And they say Congo is the worst place in the world to be a woman,
and it's gallows humor, but I say, "Gee, I didn't know there was a place worse than Yemen."
Well, guess what, Congo is worse. And I was just thinking this morning about four beautiful
teenage girls with whom I spent a lot of time. Their names, because the Bible is so clear
about we have to name them. People are people, particularly when we give them the dignity
of their name. And their names are Solange, Kavera Pasoins, Kika, and Stuka. And all four
of these girls are already survivors of multiple gang rapes by armed militia. Some of them
had conceived by their rapists, and they all had severe internal injuries, both because
their pelvises were not adequately formed yet. They were very young. They were not prepared
to bear children. And through what I call insertion rape, they have internal injuries
from things like bayonets and sticks. And we can be a part of the solution in this country
by demanding that companies are electronics providers certified, that they have obtained
the minerals in our favorite electronics without engaging in conflict mining. So folks can
go to Hope For Congo and sign a petition. There was some progress made in the last big
financial reform package that was passed last summer. This process is very similar to the
blood diamond certification. Now every company listed on the American stock exchange must
trace and audit its mineral sources. It's required that they tell us as Americans where
the minerals have come from. The final step is the certification, so that you and I can
make a moral choice when we buy our electronics and choose the products that are conflict
free. I don't want to contribute to the rape of more girls like Kavera Pasoins, Stuka,
Kika and Solange, and I know that other Christians don't either.
You say in your book that you have a sensitivity to sexual exploitation of any kind, because
of your own abuse as a child. Tell us about that.
And I also should add, I have a sensitivity to it because I just breathe the air of humanity.
But definitely, I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and rape. And by the grace of
God and doing a lot of hard work in my recovery, I can say today that I have no shame. I have
given the shame back to the perpetrators. It was never mine to begin with. But I had
to get into good recovery to learn that, because the perpetrator is shameless when they sexually
aggress. And in that act of sexual aggression, they put the shame that should have been theirs
onto the vulnerable, defenseless child. And we have to get into good recovery and group
up with other survivors of traumatic sexual experiences to learn how to give that shame
back. And another reason in addition to the fact that today I can say I'm a survivor and
have no shame that it's important to me to talk about it, because every 45 seconds in
this country, a girl or woman is sexually aggressed upon. It's very common. Three American
women will die today at the hands of their intimate partners. We have a gender violence
problem in this country as well as a responsibility morally to do what we can to stop gender violence
Well, your book is incredibly well written. I want to mention again that it's called All
That Is Bitter and Sweet. It's available in bookstores around the country. Ashley, thank
you so much for being with us. She also says that our painful past has become our greatest
asset. And if we will give God that pain, there is recovery on the other side of it.
But we do need to take an active role in stopping everything we can where people are being inappropriately
treated in this kind of way. Ashley Judd, thank you so much for being with us and for
your book.
Thanks so much for having me.
Fantastic. She's a terrific actress, by the way. Her movies have been stunning. And to
think of this crusade, and she's very articulate about what she's talking about. Well, still
ahead, we're in our chat room and getting ready to Bring It On. Your questions are next,
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Welcome back to The 700 Club. Welcome back to The 700 Club. The film Soul Surfer had
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I'm very truthful. It may not be politically correct, but it is truthful.
David Brody sits down with the Donald to ask him about his possible run for president.
If I wasn't serious, I wouldn't be sitting with you, to be honest with you.
And his message to evangelicals.
I think that they want to get somebody in that's going to win it and perhaps they look
at me as somebody that can win.
On tomorrow's 700 Club.
Well, before we take some questions, as a fledgling golfer, I've been playing the game
for some time. The masters was probably one of the most extraordinary golf events I think
in history. I've never seen anything like it.
Unbelievable. Yesterday was just, you couldn't tell the players without a score card, literally.
Well, you've got four or five of them winning, all of them with 10 under and Tiger Woods
making a run, and that Rory McElroy, the poor kid, he lived the whole time, and then he
hits one bad drive up in somebody's yard, and from then on out he blew up.
And it was a shame. And then this Charles Schwartzman, I think it is.
Schwartzen from South Africa comes in with a 14 under. He just came. Unbelievable.
Well, I'll tell you, if Augusta doesn't make you want to golf, nothing will. It's so beautiful.
It's so gorgeous down there.
Oh, my word.
Oh, my word. But anyhow, that's the best publicity the golf game could possibly have. And when
it's as exciting as that.
It was an exciting day.
To South Africa.
You have an Australian, a couple of Australians in the hunt. You've got a South African wins
it. It's something. Anyhow. Okay.
That's great.
So much for sports.
We've got some chat room questions for you. Are you ready?
All right.
This is Larry, who says, "Why are you advocating cuts in social security? Seniors depend on
that income to exist."
Larry, I am not advocating cuts in social security. What I am advocating is that the
age of eligibility of social security be made to correspond to reality. When it was first
put in, the people died by the time they reached 65, and so people began to get social security
after 65. Now it's 67, but people are living to be 80. And so we need to raise the eligibility
limit and also there's some of means testing. But I'm not talking about cutting social security,
but what I do think is important, because the program is going broke, I do think we
should privatize. We should allow younger workers to begin to invest the money that
they put into social security into something that will earn more than the social security
fund. But it's going bankrupt. That's why I'm advocating some changes. And it's got
to be done.
This is a question from someone that doesn't want their name mentioned. She says, "I had
an affair with my pastor for five years. He has since retired and we have stopped our
affair, but I still am having trouble dealing with it. I want others to know what he did."
No. You did what you did wrong. You take it to the Lord. You get comfort from God. And
the pastor is going to have to deal with his transgression. He did something that was wrong.
You say he's retired? Well, who do you want to tell? Is he out of the game now? What do
you want to do? Are you looking for revenge? I don't know why you'd want to do that.
There's no freedom in that, really.
None. Forgive him. Ask God to deal with him. You ask God to deal with you. Ask God's forgiveness,
and then get on with your life. All right.
This is Sylvia, who says, "My husband married me while being married to someone else, and
I was not aware of this. He's now divorced from the other woman, but I feel guilty. What
should I do?"
You feel guilty because he wasóessentially you were engaged in a bigamous affair. That's
Right. Well, exactly.
He married two women at the same time. I don't think your marriage is valid, and I think
you might want to go back to square one and start all over again. But I don't think that
you should continue as it is now. I don't think the second marriage was valid if he
was married to somebody else.
I can't figure that out without knowing the details. She says he's divorced from the other
woman now, so he must have divorced her after he'd married this woman.
Yes, he was already married. He gets married to her, so he's now married to two people.
It's a bigamous relationship, so it's not valid. And you feel guilty. You should. So
you need to go back, as I say, and start all over again with him. And if you feel that's
of the Lord, then get on with it. Okay.
This is from Kawaii. This person says, "How should Christians deal with depression? I
try to speak life and pray for joy, but it's so hard. Is there something wrong with me?"
A lot of depression is caused by chemical problems, and you need maybe to find an antidepressant.
There are some that are good that won't hurt you. The other thing that is so important,
you need serotonin. And serotonin comes from sunlight. You need to get out in the sun.
You need to walk. You need to run. You need to exercise. And you need to eat healthy food.
And get out with other people. But if you stay in a dark room, you're going to get worse.
But it may be that the time comes you need to see a doctor and see if maybe there isn't
some at least temporary antidepressant that you can take.
Sometimes they can give you just a little bit of something, and it makes a huge difference.
Exactly. And so I'm not in favor of people getting hooked on drugs all the time. But
clinical depression is a very serious thing.
Yes. Well, that's all the time we have for questions for today. Thank you for submitting
those. Up next, this CEO makes the toughest decision of his life. Find out what it is
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When he was younger, Stanford graduate Ken Eldred had to make a choice. He could either
go into the ministry or he could go into business. Ken struggled with this dilemma for some time
and he came up with a solution: do both. And it's a pleasure to welcome to The 700 Club
back a dear friend who has written a superb book called The Integrated Life. Ken, good
to have you with us, my friend.
Thank you. Good to be here, Pat. Nice to see you.
You started a company that at one time I think had a market cap of about 40 billion dollars.
So you can speak with authority to businesspeople.
I did indeed. Ariva Technologies. It was the darling of Wall Street during the late ë90s.
What do young people need to know? You think this book ought to go to young people. What
do they need to know that they're not being told?
When I started in business, I really had no understanding that God had even an interested
in the business world. I thought church was about God and business was about business.
But indeed, what I learned that God wants to put these two things together, that He
is the Lord of all.
And as Lord of all, He wants us to live a single and integrated life, which means instead
of looking at balance versus priorities, it's all priorities within God's plan for our lives.
Well, a lot of people think in business they've got to cheat, and they go to church on Sunday,
and then the week it's the jungle.
That's the wonderful thing about God. When we put Him first in our business lives, He
really wants to help us succeed. And He wants us to have success in our lives, because He
wants us to have those miracles. And He wants us to have miracles, because then we can stand
up and testify to the greatness of our God.
Well, people, they love to throw at you, well, money is the root of all evil. But the Bible
doesn't say that, does it?
No, it does not. The Bible says that the love of money is the root of all evil. When we
look at money, it shouldn't be an issue about profit or non-profit. And the church has a
problem with the idea of profit. But actually non-profit and profit is not a church concept.
It's an IRS concept.
We should let the IRS control our lives. What are you trying to tell people in this book?
This is a terrific book. I recommend it to people. You dealt with some very substantial
issues. Tell us about some of them.
Well, the books talks about the fact that we're in a really, really difficult time.
We have so many demands on our lives, in every area. And yet, we don't look at the assumptions
that are underneath our lives. What is it that causes us to do what we do? So I examine
the assumptions about what is business relative to God? And then I get into the story, since
God is interested in business, how do we integrate our business life into our relationship with
God? And there are some very practical steps in this book, leaving people with the idea
at the very end, just like in any seminar, when you'll leave from a seminar, if you don't
write down one thing you're going to do on Monday morning, then the seminar was not worth
your while. So I encourage people to read the book, look at what they need to change.
And why is it important? Because there are so many benefits that people ought to have
in their life. When we live disintegrated lives, we live burnout lives. We risk burnout.
We lose our families. We lose our relationships. We lose our way with God. And all these can
come back together again if we'll just take the time to focus on who He is and put Him
into our business lives.
You had a problem when you first started business, didn't you, that somebody was asking you to
do something that you weren't comfortable doing?
That happened quite a bit. In fact, when I started the company, I went to some venture
capitalists and I ask them to give me some money. And they said, "We'd like to. We really
love this idea." And I said, "You have to understand that I know you venture guys. You're
looking for people who work 70 to 80 hours a week." And I said, "I have to tell you,
I can't do that. I can only work roughly 40 hours a week." And they looked at me and said.
"What's wrong with you?" And I said, "Well, I'm a Christian. And so God comes first."
And I went through my priorities. God is first. My wife and children are second. My job is
third. And that's all I've got left. Well, they didn't want to give me any money at all
at that point. And as a result, we ended up building this company on 5,000 dollars, a
grocery bag of connector parts. We built a 400 million dollar business. And we own most
of it, because we didn't have to give any to venture capitalists.
That's not a bad deal.
No, it's not a bad deal. That's what God has in mind. But it's the miracle of God.
Ladies and gentlemen, this bookóany of you who are interested in business or you young
people just getting ready to graduate from school, The Integrated Life. Where does somebody
get a copy, Ken, of this excellent book?
It's through or from Living Stones or go to Amazon.
It's available on Amazon.
Yes, sir.
The Integrated Life. Ken Eldred. It is a tremendous book, very practical. Very exciting. If you're
interested in business, this is the way to see it. A man who has been there, done this,
and came out of it very successful. Well, we leave you with these words from Jeremiah
33:6 . . . .
. . . . "I will heal My people and will let them enjoy abundant peace and security." Again,
our thanks to Ken Eldred and Ashley Judd for their tremendous presentations. And, Lord
willing, we'll be back at this same time on The 700 Club, so we'll see you then. Bye bye.
Tomorrow. We play our Trump card.
I'm very truthful. It may not be politically correct, but it is truthful.
David Brody sits down with the Donald to ask him about his possible run for president.
If I wasn't serious, I wouldn't be sitting with you, to be honest with you.
And his message to evangelicals.
I think that they want to get somebody in that's going to win it and perhaps they look
at me as somebody that can win.
On tomorrow's 700 Club.
Hello, I'm Terry Meeuwsen. Did you know there are more than 148 million orphans in the world
today? 148 million. But it was three little girls that taught me about the plight of orphans.
Eight years ago my husband and I spent nearly a month immersed in the daily activities of
an Ukrainian orphanage as we waited to adopt three sisters. I saw firsthand the utter loneliness,
the pain of rejection and the overwhelming desire to be loved. That experience changed
me forever, and out of it grew a ministry from my heart called Orphan's Promise.
Today we're helping orphans and vulnerable children in more than 50 countries worldwide.
Thousands of children are now in safe homes. They're being educated and they're learning
life skills. I'm asking you to join with me and become family to these children. Will
you call the number on your screen right now, because every child deserves a chance to be
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