Meleg szemmel 16. - Vonulni vagy nem vonulni? | To march or not to march?


Uploaded by szimpozion on 11.06.2011

Transcript:
THROUGH GAY EYES
Episode 16 To March Or Not To March?
- Zsolt, let’s stop for a second! - OK!
- Now, shall we march or not? - We shall!
It’s OK for me and you to go to the demonstration, but a lot of gay people are against the whole thing.
Many people are against it... it’s well-known. What do you think, which one is the main reason:
the presence of the police, the cordons, the counter-demonstrators?
Well, maybe the cordons. It’s pretty bothersome walking there like monkeys in a cage.
But this has nothing to do with us, gays. As we all know, there were no cordons before 2007.
- It’s for security, yes. - Well, let’s say it point-blank:
it’s because of the counter-demonstrators. - Many people might feel revulsion,
as they take it as a provocation. The demonstration is way too flagrant and marching along
with transvestites can be disturbing for some.
But shouldn’t the demonstration be a celebration? Enjoying ourselves, having fun, cheering,
laughing, dancing, wearing colorful clothes...
Yes, exactly. But in Hungary the demonstration still has its political reasons, unlike in western countries.
Yes, just as Milán Rózsa has said: we still have to fight.
It’s also interesting that in the LGBT community, nobody likes to put the transvestites into the focus.
However, everybody knows that they were the ones who started the movement...
with the Stonewall riots. Based on the experiences of the last couple of years,
I can only tell you positive stuff, though. - How many marches have you been participating in?
I’ve been marching for several years now. I don’t know... for five or six years.
And what kind of positive experiences do you have? Why should someone march?
I’m marching for the equality of rights, too. Couples of the same sex still can’t get married.
So, there are still things to fight for. - Yes, there are things to march for.
But if someone wants to participate just because it’s a celebration for him/her,
that can also be fully experienced as the atmosphere is also suitable for that:
loud music, dancers, drummers. So, in my opinion, it is possible to experience the march as a parade.
Have you ever been participating in a march?
I have only been marching in Bratislava. But this year I’m going to Madrid, too.
Really? But you are coming to the Budapest Pride, too? - Yes, I'm coming.
Many of those who have never been there to see such a march, get their information
from the media and they actually believe that. Although, the reality differs from what the
media presents. People think that there are naked dancers on the trucks
and nasty stuff is going on, but it’s not true. It’s not!
Does this mean, however, that such things do happen on the parades in the west?
Yes, on the western parades such things may happen. But the western society is not getting
outrageous about it. Many gay people feel that this whole marching-thing
we are doing each year makes more harm to the gay society than good. Do you think it’s true?
Some layers of society take it as a provocation against them, but the bigger - so to say sympathetic -
crowds of people who are not counter-demonstrators but don’t march with us either, become aware of
the gay movement, at least. They realize that we do exist. The gay community becomes visible.
So eventually, it’s important because at least once a year we show ourselves for the so-called "indifferent"
people who are neither against us, nor standing by us. We let them know that we do have certain
problems, for example we are not accepted equally to the heteros - neither on legal
nor on the societal level. - That’s right.
The question is: how can we make more gays consider it useful? Or should we do
anything about it, at all?
We simply have to be there, marching for our rights.
You know what? We should do it like this: those who came marching last year should come this year, too,
bringing one more person who has never been marching before.
So this time we’ll be twice as much as last year. And next year, everybody should bring
one more person as well which means we’ll be four times more.
Yeah, let’s bring one more person to march!
Let this be our motto: "Bring one more person!"
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