Arizona Week - January 11, 2013

>>> ARE WE BEGIN HEADED FOR THE BRINK ON FISCAL MATTERS IN
BRINK ON FISCAL MATTERS IN CONGRESS?
CONGRESS? >> YOU KNOW, MY BELIEF IS THAT
>> YOU KNOW, MY BELIEF IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING GAMES
WE SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING GAMES WITH THE DEBT LIMIT ISSUE AS WE
WITH THE DEBT LIMIT ISSUE AS WE DID LAST TIME.
DID LAST TIME. WHEN WE DID THE ECONOMY WAS
WHEN WE DID THE ECONOMY WAS HARMED BY THAT BEHAVIOR.
HARMED BY THAT BEHAVIOR. I DON'T THINK ALL THE REVENUE IS
I DON'T THINK ALL THE REVENUE IS ON THE TABLE.
ON THE TABLE. I DON'T THINK WE -- WE HAVEN'T
I DON'T THINK WE -- WE HAVEN'T REALLY DEALT WITH THE ISSUE OF
REALLY DEALT WITH THE ISSUE OF TAX REFORM IN GENERAL.
TAX REFORM IN GENERAL. THE LOOPHOLES, THE DEDUCT
THE LOOPHOLES, THE DEDUCT ISSUES, DERIVATIVES, CORPORATE
ISSUES, DERIVATIVES, CORPORATE SUBSIDIES?
SUBSIDIES? TONIGHT, THESE TWO
TONIGHT, THESE TWO REPRESENTATIVES DISCUSS THEIR
REPRESENTATIVES DISCUSS THEIR EXPECTATIONS FOR THE 113th
EXPECTATIONS FOR THE 113th CONGRESS ON "ARIZONA WEEK."
CONGRESS ON "ARIZONA WEEK." >>> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK"
>>> PRODUCTION OF "ARIZONA WEEK" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART FROM A
IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART FROM A GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL
GRANT FROM THE STONEWALL FOUNDATION AND FROM THE MEMBERS
FOUNDATION AND FROM THE MEMBERS OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA.
OF ARIZONA PUBLIC MEDIA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
SUPPORT. >>> ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR.
>>> ONCE AGAIN, YOUR MODERATOR. >> FISCAL ISSUES TOP THE
>> FISCAL ISSUES TOP THE NATIONAL AGENDA AND CLOSE BEHIND
NATIONAL AGENDA AND CLOSE BEHIND ARE GUN CONTROL AND IMMIGRATION
ARE GUN CONTROL AND IMMIGRATION REFORM.
REFORM. WE SPOKE WITH SOUTHERN ARIZONA
WE SPOKE WITH SOUTHERN ARIZONA CONGRESSMEN ABOUT ALL THREE.
CONGRESSMEN ABOUT ALL THREE. FIRST, FEDERAL FINANCE.
FIRST, FEDERAL FINANCE. FIRST OF ALL, LET'S TALK ABOUT
FIRST OF ALL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DEBT CEILING.
THE DEBT CEILING. >> MY BELIEF IS THAT WE
>> MY BELIEF IS THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING GAMES WITH
SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING GAMES WITH THE DEBT LIMIT ISSUE AS WE DID
THE DEBT LIMIT ISSUE AS WE DID LAST TIME.
LAST TIME. WHEN WE DID, THE ECONOMY WAS
WHEN WE DID, THE ECONOMY WAS HARMED BY THAT BEHAVIOR, AND WE
HARMED BY THAT BEHAVIOR, AND WE WERE DOWNGRADED, AND THAT'S NOT
WERE DOWNGRADED, AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY.
GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY. WE REALLY NEED TO PAY OUR BILLS,
WE REALLY NEED TO PAY OUR BILLS, AND THE DEBT LIMIT ISSUE OR THE
AND THE DEBT LIMIT ISSUE OR THE RESOLUTION IS A WAY TO MAKE SURE
RESOLUTION IS A WAY TO MAKE SURE WE PAY OUR BILLS.
WE PAY OUR BILLS. IT'S NOT LIKE WE WERE CREATING
IT'S NOT LIKE WE WERE CREATING NEW EXPENDITURES.
NEW EXPENDITURES. IT'S PAYING FOR THINGS THAT
IT'S PAYING FOR THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY INCURRED, SO I'M
WE'VE ALREADY INCURRED, SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN SEPARATE IT
HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN SEPARATE IT FROM THE OTHER SERIOUS ISSUES
FROM THE OTHER SERIOUS ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING IN TERMS OF
THAT WE'RE FACING IN TERMS OF BUDGET CUTS AND THE ISSUE OF
BUDGET CUTS AND THE ISSUE OF CONTINUING RESOLUTION AND
CONTINUING RESOLUTION AND SEQUESTRATION.
SEQUESTRATION. >> THE DEBT CEILING IS AN
>> THE DEBT CEILING IS AN OBLIGATION.
OBLIGATION. THE CREDIT AND GOOD FAITH OF THE
THE CREDIT AND GOOD FAITH OF THE UNITED STATES.
UNITED STATES. ONE THING FOR CONGRESS TO SPEND
ONE THING FOR CONGRESS TO SPEND THE MONEY, AND IT'S ANOTHER
THE MONEY, AND IT'S ANOTHER THING TO DENY PAYING THE MONEY.
THING TO DENY PAYING THE MONEY. WE CAN'T DO THAT IN OUR OWN
WE CAN'T DO THAT IN OUR OWN PERSONAL LIVES, AND WE OWE IT
PERSONAL LIVES, AND WE OWE IT THAT IT HAS TO BE RAISED, AND TO
THAT IT HAS TO BE RAISED, AND TO MAKE THAT A BATTERING CHIP LIKE
MAKE THAT A BATTERING CHIP LIKE WE DID THE LAST TIME AND
WE DID THE LAST TIME AND EXTRACTING ADDITIONAL CUTS OR
EXTRACTING ADDITIONAL CUTS OR CUTS IN PROGRAMS, I THINK IT'S
CUTS IN PROGRAMS, I THINK IT'S WRONG-HEADED, BECAUSE THERE'S
WRONG-HEADED, BECAUSE THERE'S TWO OTHER THINGS COMING, THE
TWO OTHER THINGS COMING, THE BUDGET FOR ITSELF AND
BUDGET FOR ITSELF AND SEQUESTRATION, THE AUTOMATIC
SEQUESTRATION, THE AUTOMATIC BUDGET CAKES THAT ARE NEXT IN
BUDGET CAKES THAT ARE NEXT IN LINE.
LINE. TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT
TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT NIGHTMARE THAT WE HAD, I THINK
NIGHTMARE THAT WE HAD, I THINK IT WOULD BE A BAD FISCAL MISTAKE
IT WOULD BE A BAD FISCAL MISTAKE FOR CONGRESS BECAUSE WE THESE
FOR CONGRESS BECAUSE WE THESE OTHER TWO THINGS LOOMING AT THE
OTHER TWO THINGS LOOMING AT THE SAME TIME.
SAME TIME. >> ONE OF THOSE LOOMING THINGS,
>> ONE OF THOSE LOOMING THINGS, THE BUDGET CUTS THAT YOU
THE BUDGET CUTS THAT YOU MENTIONED, SEQUESTRATION, WHICH
MENTIONED, SEQUESTRATION, WHICH WAS DELAYED TWO MONTHS IN THE
WAS DELAYED TWO MONTHS IN THE DEAL MADE AT THE VERY END OF THE
DEAL MADE AT THE VERY END OF THE YEAR.
YEAR. >> CORRECT.
>> CORRECT. >> WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THAT?
>> WHERE DO YOU STAND ON THAT? WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE?
WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE? >> I DON'T KNOW.
>> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T THINK ALL THE REVENUE IS
I DON'T THINK ALL THE REVENUE IS ON THE TABLE HONESTLY.
ON THE TABLE HONESTLY. I THINK WHAT WE DID, AND PART
I THINK WHAT WE DID, AND PART OF -- PART OF THE CONCERN MANY
OF -- PART OF THE CONCERN MANY OF US HAD WITH THE DEAL.
OF US HAD WITH THE DEAL. I SUPPORT IT HAD.
I SUPPORT IT HAD. IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AT
IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AT THAT TIME, WAS THAT THE CLAIM,
THAT TIME, WAS THAT THE CLAIM, OKAY, WE'VE DEALT WITH TAXES.
OKAY, WE'VE DEALT WITH TAXES. WE'VE DEALT WITH REVENUE AND
WE'VE DEALT WITH REVENUE AND LET'S MOVE ON TO SPENDING CUTS.
LET'S MOVE ON TO SPENDING CUTS. I DON'T THINK ALL THE REVENUE IS
I DON'T THINK ALL THE REVENUE IS ON THE TABLE.
ON THE TABLE. I DON'T THINK -- WE HAVEN'T
I DON'T THINK -- WE HAVEN'T REALLY DEALT WITH THE ISSUE OF
REALLY DEALT WITH THE ISSUE OF TAX REFORM IN GENERAL.
TAX REFORM IN GENERAL. THE LOOPHOLES, THE DEDUCTIONS,
THE LOOPHOLES, THE DEDUCTIONS, THE DERIVATIVE ISSUE, TRANSITION
THE DERIVATIVE ISSUE, TRANSITION FEES, CORPORATE SUBSIDIES.
FEES, CORPORATE SUBSIDIES. THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF
THERE'S A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF GOVERNMENT REVENUE ON, OUT
GOVERNMENT REVENUE ON, OUT THERE, THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT
THERE, THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT ON TO THE TABLE AS WE TALK IN
ON TO THE TABLE AS WE TALK IN CONJUNCTION TO WHAT THOSE CUTS
CONJUNCTION TO WHAT THOSE CUTS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. >> THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND CUTTING
>> THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND CUTTING ACROSS THE BOARD IS A FOOLISH
ACROSS THE BOARD IS A FOOLISH WAY TO DEAL WITH OUR NATION'S
WAY TO DEAL WITH OUR NATION'S DEFICIT.
DEFICIT. WE MUST DEAL WITH IT.
WE MUST DEAL WITH IT. THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT,
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT, AND THERE HAVE TO BE CUTS AS
AND THERE HAVE TO BE CUTS AS WELL AS NEW REVENUES COMING IN
WELL AS NEW REVENUES COMING IN TO HELP.
TO HELP. CLOSE THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT WE
CLOSE THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT WE SPEND AND WHAT WE TAKE IN.
SPEND AND WHAT WE TAKE IN. BUT I'M REALLY HOPEFUL THAT WE
BUT I'M REALLY HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN FIND THE TIME, AND WE HAVE
CAN FIND THE TIME, AND WE HAVE TWO MONTHS, TO MAKE PRUDENT CUTS
TWO MONTHS, TO MAKE PRUDENT CUTS IN EVERY BUDGET THAT NEEDS TO BE
IN EVERY BUDGET THAT NEEDS TO BE CUT.
CUT. NOT ACROSS-THE-BOARD CUTS.
NOT ACROSS-THE-BOARD CUTS. THERE ARE MANY THINGS WE CAN DO,
THERE ARE MANY THINGS WE CAN DO, NOT ONLY TO CUT PROGRAMS THAT
NOT ONLY TO CUT PROGRAMS THAT ARE DUPLICATIVE, WE CAN ALSO DO
ARE DUPLICATIVE, WE CAN ALSO DO OTHER THINGS THAT CAN INCREASE
OTHER THINGS THAT CAN INCREASE REVENUES.
REVENUES. >> OTHER NEGOTIATIONS WILL BE
>> OTHER NEGOTIATIONS WILL BE OVER WHAT CALL THE ENTITLEMENTS,
OVER WHAT CALL THE ENTITLEMENTS, SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE. WHAT CONCESSIONS ARE YOU WILLING
WHAT CONCESSIONS ARE YOU WILLING TO MAKE IN REGARDS TO THOSE IN.
TO MAKE IN REGARDS TO THOSE IN. >> NOT TO MANY, TO BE HONEST.
>> NOT TO MANY, TO BE HONEST. NOT TOO MANY.
NOT TOO MANY. I THINK WE NEED TO -- WE NEED TO
I THINK WE NEED TO -- WE NEED TO LOOK AT MEDICARE IN A STRUCTURAL
LOOK AT MEDICARE IN A STRUCTURAL WAY.
WAY. WHAT ARE THE STRUCTURAL REFORMS
WHAT ARE THE STRUCTURAL REFORMS TO MAKE IT EFFICIENT?
TO MAKE IT EFFICIENT? WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN
WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITHIN THAT MEDICARE BUDGET
DO WITHIN THAT MEDICARE BUDGET WHICH IS HUGE TO GENERATE
WHICH IS HUGE TO GENERATE REVENUE FOR MEDICARE, AND WE GET
REVENUE FOR MEDICARE, AND WE GET TO LOWER THE COST BECAUSE, YOU
TO LOWER THE COST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LOWERING THE HEALTH COST
KNOW, LOWERING THE HEALTH COST WOULD DO A LOT TO HELP THIS
WOULD DO A LOT TO HELP THIS ECONOMY BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF
ECONOMY BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE DRIVING ENGINES OF OUR
THE DRIVING ENGINES OF OUR DEFICIT BUT THE ISSUE, GOING
DEFICIT BUT THE ISSUE, GOING BACK ON BENEFITS SOMETHING THAT
BACK ON BENEFITS SOMETHING THAT I CANNOT SUPPORT.
I CANNOT SUPPORT. >> I DON'T SUPPORT CUTS IN
>> I DON'T SUPPORT CUTS IN BENEFITS FOR EITHER OF THOSE
BENEFITS FOR EITHER OF THOSE PROGRAMS, AND I BELIEVE WE CAN
PROGRAMS, AND I BELIEVE WE CAN FIND OTHER WAYS TO CONTINUE
FIND OTHER WAYS TO CONTINUE THEIR SOLVENCY.
THEIR SOLVENCY. LET'S BE CLEAR.
LET'S BE CLEAR. THEY DIDN'T CREATE --
THEY DIDN'T CREATE -- PARTICULARLY SOCIAL SECURITY DID
PARTICULARLY SOCIAL SECURITY DID NOT CREATE THE BUDGET PROBLEMS
NOT CREATE THE BUDGET PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.
THAT WE HAVE. THOSE ARE HISTORICAL.
THOSE ARE HISTORICAL. LONG STORY ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO
LONG STORY ABOUT HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO
THIS POINT, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
DEAL WITH IT. IN THE CASE OF SOCIAL SECURITY,
IN THE CASE OF SOCIAL SECURITY, THE PROBLEM IS SOLVENT THROUGH
THE PROBLEM IS SOLVENT THROUGH 2033.
2033. IN THE CASE OF MEDICARE IT'S
IN THE CASE OF MEDICARE IT'S SOLVENT THROUGH 2024.
SOLVENT THROUGH 2024. WE HAVE SOMETIME, NOT A LOT OF
WE HAVE SOMETIME, NOT A LOT OF TIME TO GET ADDITIONAL REVENUES
TIME TO GET ADDITIONAL REVENUES IN THOSE SYSTEMS AND REDUCE
IN THOSE SYSTEMS AND REDUCE COSTS, PARTICULARLY LIKE I SAID
COSTS, PARTICULARLY LIKE I SAID IN MEDICARE, TO REALLY INCREASE
IN MEDICARE, TO REALLY INCREASE SOLVENCY.
SOLVENCY. >> YOU MENTIONED THE DEFENSE
>> YOU MENTIONED THE DEFENSE SPENDING CUTS THAT ARE PART OF
SPENDING CUTS THAT ARE PART OF THE SEQUESTRATION.
THE SEQUESTRATION. >> IS THAT AN ADEQUATE LEVEL OF
>> IS THAT AN ADEQUATE LEVEL OF CUTS?
CUTS? TOO MUCH?
TOO MUCH? WHERE WILL YOU STAND ON THAT?
WHERE WILL YOU STAND ON THAT? >> RIGHT NOW I THINK THAT IT
>> RIGHT NOW I THINK THAT IT POTENTI
POTENTI POTENTIALLY IT'S TOO MUCH.
POTENTIALLY IT'S TOO MUCH. WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING TWO WARS ON
WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING TWO WARS ON CREDIT CARDS.
CREDIT CARDS. THAT'S ADDED TREMENDOUSLY TO THE
THAT'S ADDED TREMENDOUSLY TO THE DEFICIT.
DEFICIT. PEOPLE IN UNIFORM, NOT TO MAKE
PEOPLE IN UNIFORM, NOT TO MAKE ANY INCURSION TO THE COMMITMENT
ANY INCURSION TO THE COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE MADE FOR THEM FOR
THAT WE'VE MADE FOR THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE AND THEN AFTER
THEIR SERVICE AND THEN AFTER WITH RETURN TO CIVILIAN LIFE.
WITH RETURN TO CIVILIAN LIFE. THOSE HAVE SOB SACROSANCT AND
THOSE HAVE SOB SACROSANCT AND PROTECTED.
PROTECTED. >> MUCH OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT
>> MUCH OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE INDUSTRIAL
IN TERMS OF THE INDUSTRIAL MILITARY INDUSTRY, WE'RE
MILITARY INDUSTRY, WE'RE CREATING ARMAMENTS, WEAPONS FROM
CREATING ARMAMENTS, WEAPONS FROM A BYGONE ERA.
A BYGONE ERA. NOW IT'S TECHNOLOGY AND
NOW IT'S TECHNOLOGY AND MOBILITY, OTHER FACTORS.
MOBILITY, OTHER FACTORS. SO GOING ALONG WITH THE CUTS,
SO GOING ALONG WITH THE CUTS, THERE MIGHT END UP BEING MORE,
THERE MIGHT END UP BEING MORE, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE NEED TO BRING
SIMPLY BECAUSE WE NEED TO BRING THE MILITARY INTO THE CENTER,
THE MILITARY INTO THE CENTER, AND I KNOW THE FIGHT IS GOING TO
AND I KNOW THE FIGHT IS GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS.
BE TREMENDOUS. MY COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE TANK
MY COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE TANK PRODUCTION FACILITIES IN THEIR
PRODUCTION FACILITIES IN THEIR DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO BE --
DISTRICTS ARE GOING TO BE -- THEY ARE GOING TO SEE THAT AS AN
THEY ARE GOING TO SEE THAT AS AN ESSENTIAL WEAPON.
ESSENTIAL WEAPON. >> MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
>> MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO IN THE DEFENSE
WHATEVER WE DO IN THE DEFENSE BUDGET, IF THERE ARE CUTS, AND
BUDGET, IF THERE ARE CUTS, AND THERE PROBABLY WILL BE, DO NOT
THERE PROBABLY WILL BE, DO NOT DECREASE OUR NATIONAL SECURITY
DECREASE OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND COMING AND BRINGING IT HOME
AND COMING AND BRINGING IT HOME RIGHT HERE TO SOUTHERN ARIZONA,
RIGHT HERE TO SOUTHERN ARIZONA, THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT ON FT
THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT ON FT FTFT.
FTFT. FT. WACHUKA, THE MAIN ECONOMIC
FT. WACHUKA, THE MAIN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE COUNTER, AND
DRIVER FOR THE COUNTER, AND ANOTHER ONE OF THE MAJOR
ANOTHER ONE OF THE MAJOR ECONOMIC DRIVERS HERE IN PIMA
ECONOMIC DRIVERS HERE IN PIMA COUNTY.
COUNTY. THESE ARE IMPORTANT MISSIONS TO
THESE ARE IMPORTANT MISSIONS TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO NATIONAL
THE COMMUNITY AND TO NATIONAL SECURITY AND I'M GOING TO WORK
SECURITY AND I'M GOING TO WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THEY
REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT IMPACTED BY CUTS.
ARE NOT IMPACTED BY CUTS. >> EVERY MEMBER OF CONGRESS WITH
>> EVERY MEMBER OF CONGRESS WITH MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IN HIS OR
MILITARY INSTALLATIONS IN HIS OR HER DISTRICT WOULD MAKE THE SAME
HER DISTRICT WOULD MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT YOU MADE I WOULD SAY,
ARGUMENT YOU MADE I WOULD SAY, HOW DOES YOUR RISE ABOVE OTHERS?
HOW DOES YOUR RISE ABOVE OTHERS? >> WELL, I THINK WE HAVE A VERY
>> WELL, I THINK WE HAVE A VERY COMPELLING ARGUMENT FOR WHY BOTH
COMPELLING ARGUMENT FOR WHY BOTH OF THESE INNS IT ALATIONS ARE
OF THESE INNS IT ALATIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND
IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY EFFORT.
THE NATIONAL SECURITY EFFORT. LET'S LOOK AT FT. WACHUTKA, THE
LET'S LOOK AT FT. WACHUTKA, THE CENTER OF HUMAN INTELLIGENCE
CENTER OF HUMAN INTELLIGENCE WORK IN THE ARMY AND WE KNOW
WORK IN THE ARMY AND WE KNOW THAT HUMAN INTELLIGENCE IS
THAT HUMAN INTELLIGENCE IS REALLY GOING TO INFORM HOW WE
REALLY GOING TO INFORM HOW WE FIGHT BATTLES FROM HERE ON OUT.
FIGHT BATTLES FROM HERE ON OUT. FIGHTING STATELESS GROUPS SUCH
FIGHTING STATELESS GROUPS SUCH AS AL QAEDA, HUMAN INTELLIGENCE
AS AL QAEDA, HUMAN INTELLIGENCE IS CRITICAL TO OUR SUCCESS.
IS CRITICAL TO OUR SUCCESS. WE HAVE A HUMAN INTELLIGENCE
WE HAVE A HUMAN INTELLIGENCE CENTER THAT SERVES THE NATION
CENTER THAT SERVES THE NATION LIKE NO OTHER.
LIKE NO OTHER. WE BRING IT BACK TO DAVIS
WE BRING IT BACK TO DAVIS MONTON, THE 12th AIR FORCE
MONTON, THE 12th AIR FORCE STATION HERE, AND THEY NOT ONLY
STATION HERE, AND THEY NOT ONLY PROVIDE SECURITY UNTIL THAT PART
PROVIDE SECURITY UNTIL THAT PART OF THE COUNTRY AND HELP US WITH
OF THE COUNTRY AND HELP US WITH THE DRUG INTERDICTION IN SOUTH
THE DRUG INTERDICTION IN SOUTH AMERICAN COUNTRIES AND HAVE DONE
AMERICAN COUNTRIES AND HAVE DONE A VERY SUCCESSFUL JOB.
A VERY SUCCESSFUL JOB. >>> THE 2012 ELECTS GAVE NEW
>>> THE 2012 ELECTS GAVE NEW MOMENTUM TO THE IDEA OF
MOMENTUM TO THE IDEA OF IMMIGRATION REFORM.
IMMIGRATION REFORM. HERE'S WHAT THE CONGRESSMEN HAD
HERE'S WHAT THE CONGRESSMEN HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT.
TO SAY ABOUT IT. WHAT FORM DO YOU SEE PRESIDENT
WHAT FORM DO YOU SEE PRESIDENT OBAMA'S IMMIGRATION REFORM
OBAMA'S IMMIGRATION REFORM PROPOSAL COMING TO CONGRESS IN?
PROPOSAL COMING TO CONGRESS IN? >> I'M NOT SURE IT'S GOING TO BE
>> I'M NOT SURE IT'S GOING TO BE A LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE THAT SAYS
A LEGISLATIVE PACKAGE THAT SAYS THIS IS MY BILL, ALTHOUGH HE
THIS IS MY BILL, ALTHOUGH HE SAID THAT.
SAID THAT. I EITHER SEE -- I SEE SETS OF
I EITHER SEE -- I SEE SETS OF MUST BES IN THE LEGISLATION, AND
MUST BES IN THE LEGISLATION, AND FROM -- AND I'M GLAD HE REPEATED
FROM -- AND I'M GLAD HE REPEATED IT THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE WHAT
IT THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE WHAT YOU HEAR RIGHT NOW, WELL, WE
YOU HEAR RIGHT NOW, WELL, WE SHOULDN'T DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION
SHOULDN'T DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION UNTIL WE DEAL WITH OUR FISCAL
UNTIL WE DEAL WITH OUR FISCAL SHOWDOWN AND CLIFF.
SHOWDOWN AND CLIFF. WE SHOULDN'T DEAL WITH
WE SHOULDN'T DEAL WITH IMMIGRATION UNTIL WE DEAL WITH
IMMIGRATION UNTIL WE DEAL WITH THE GUN CONTROL CRISIS.
THE GUN CONTROL CRISIS. WE SHOULDN'T DEAL -- THERE'S
WE SHOULDN'T DEAL -- THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY OF EXCUSES TO
GOING TO BE PLENTY OF EXCUSES TO PUT IT ON THE BACK BURNER.
PUT IT ON THE BACK BURNER. WE WENT THROUGH FOUR YEARS OF
WE WENT THROUGH FOUR YEARS OF BACK BURNER ON THE QUESTION OF
BACK BURNER ON THE QUESTION OF IMMIGRATION REFORM, AND I THINK
IMMIGRATION REFORM, AND I THINK THE PRESIDENT GOT THE MESSAGE
THE PRESIDENT GOT THE MESSAGE DURING THE ELECTION THAT THIS
DURING THE ELECTION THAT THIS PRIORITY, NOT ONLY FOR THE
PRIORITY, NOT ONLY FOR THE LATINO COMMUNITY, BUT FOR THE
LATINO COMMUNITY, BUT FOR THE IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IN GENERAL,
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, AND -- AND IF WE DON'T DEAL WITH
AND -- AND IF WE DON'T DEAL WITH THIS, LET'S FOR A SECOND ALL
THIS, LET'S FOR A SECOND ALL THESE ASPIRING AMERICANS AND
THESE ASPIRING AMERICANS AND IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE HERE, 11
IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE HERE, 11 MILLION, WHICH IS THE TARGET, IF
MILLION, WHICH IS THE TARGET, IF WE DON'T DEAL WITH IT, WE
WE DON'T DEAL WITH IT, WE CONTINUE TO AGGRAVATE, WHICH I
CONTINUE TO AGGRAVATE, WHICH I THINK CAN BE ONE OF THE -- IS
THINK CAN BE ONE OF THE -- IS AND WILL BECOME ONE OF THE MOST
AND WILL BECOME ONE OF THE MOST SOCIALLY DIVISIVE ISSUES IN OUR
SOCIALLY DIVISIVE ISSUES IN OUR NATION, SO THERE'S ANOTHER
NATION, SO THERE'S ANOTHER REASON HERE FOR THE FULL
REASON HERE FOR THE FULL INTEGRATION OF THESE FOLKS INTO
INTEGRATION OF THESE FOLKS INTO OUR AMERICA AND TO OUR VALUES,
OUR AMERICA AND TO OUR VALUES, OUR PRINCIPLES, OUR IDEALS.
OUR PRINCIPLES, OUR IDEALS. THAT TO ME WOULD DO MORE
THAT TO ME WOULD DO MORE DOMESTICALLY THAN ANY ONE THING
DOMESTICALLY THAN ANY ONE THING WE CAN DO.
WE CAN DO. I SEE IT AS A PRIORITY.
I SEE IT AS A PRIORITY. HE REPEATED IT IN HIS SPEECH.
HE REPEATED IT IN HIS SPEECH. THE TENETS I THINK YOU'LL SEE IS
THE TENETS I THINK YOU'LL SEE IS FAMILY UNIFICATION/CITIZENSHIP
FAMILY UNIFICATION/CITIZENSHIP AND CODIFYING THE DREAM ACT.
AND CODIFYING THE DREAM ACT. >> I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED
>> I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO PASS THE D.R.E.A.M. ACT.
TO PASS THE D.R.E.A.M. ACT. IT WAS PASS THE IN THE HOUSE
IT WAS PASS THE IN THE HOUSE BEFORE, DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE IN
BEFORE, DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE IN THE SENATE BUT WHEN WE HAVE
THE SENATE BUT WHEN WE HAVE THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE
THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE BASICALLY LIVED HERE ALL THEIR
BASICALLY LIVED HERE ALL THEIR LIVES, CAME HERE THROUGH NO
LIVES, CAME HERE THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, WANT TO GO
FAULT OF THEIR OWN, WANT TO GO INTO THE MILITARY OR GO TO
INTO THE MILITARY OR GO TO COLLEGE, WE WANT TO GIVE THEM
COLLEGE, WE WANT TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY.
THE OPPORTUNITY. WHEN I SPEAK TO RANCHERS AND
WHEN I SPEAK TO RANCHERS AND OTHER BUSINESS PEOPLE ALONG THE
OTHER BUSINESS PEOPLE ALONG THE BORDER, THEY SAY THEY WOULD LIKE
BORDER, THEY SAY THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, AN I BELIEVE WE SHOULD
TO HAVE, AN I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE, A GUEST WORKER PROGRAM
HAVE, A GUEST WORKER PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME HERE
WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME HERE LEGALLY AND SAFELY AND RETURN
LEGALLY AND SAFELY AND RETURN HOME.
HOME. I ALSO BELIEVE WE NEED TO DEAL
I ALSO BELIEVE WE NEED TO DEAL WITH VISAS AT THE HIGH END OF
WITH VISAS AT THE HIGH END OF THE FIELD OF TECHNOLOGY, H-1B
THE FIELD OF TECHNOLOGY, H-1B VISAS ARE SCOOPED UP ALMOST AS
VISAS ARE SCOOPED UP ALMOST AS SOON AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE.
SOON AS THEY ARE AVAILABLE. WE NEED TO KEEP THESE YOUNG
WE NEED TO KEEP THESE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WE EDUCATE HERE IN
PEOPLE THAT WE EDUCATE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY RATHER THAN GOING
THIS COUNTRY RATHER THAN GOING BACK TO THE HOME COUNTRY.
BACK TO THE HOME COUNTRY. THOSE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, AND
THOSE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, AND THEN WE HAVE THE 12-PLUS MILLION
THEN WE HAVE THE 12-PLUS MILLION PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE IN THE
PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE IN THE SHADOWS.
SHADOWS. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE. WE DON'T KNOW REALLY ANYTHING
WE DON'T KNOW REALLY ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.
ABOUT THEM. WE HAVE TO BRING THEM OUT OF THE
WE HAVE TO BRING THEM OUT OF THE SHADOWS IN A REASONABLE WAY, NOT
SHADOWS IN A REASONABLE WAY, NOT THAT THEY SHOULD GO IN FRONT OF
THAT THEY SHOULD GO IN FRONT OF THE LINE.
THE LINE. THEY NEED TO GO TO THE BACK OF
THEY NEED TO GO TO THE BACK OF THE LINE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO
THE LINE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GAIN LEGAL STATUS IN OUR
GAIN LEGAL STATUS IN OUR COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> ONE OF THE CONTENTIOUS POINT
>> ONE OF THE CONTENTIOUS POINT ON THE OPPOSITION, MOSTLY
ON THE OPPOSITION, MOSTLY REPUBLICANS, BUT FROM DEMOCRATS,
REPUBLICANS, BUT FROM DEMOCRATS, IS THAT THE BORDER NEEDS TO BE
IS THAT THE BORDER NEEDS TO BE SECURED FIRST AND YOU SAW A
SECURED FIRST AND YOU SAW A REPORT JUST THIS WEEK THAT SAYS
REPORT JUST THIS WEEK THAT SAYS THE BORDER IS MORE SECURE THAN
THE BORDER IS MORE SECURE THAN IT'S BEEN IN A LONG TIME BUT AT
IT'S BEEN IN A LONG TIME BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE'S NOT A
THE SAME TIME THERE'S NOT A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT A
CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT A SECURE BORDER IS.
SECURE BORDER IS. >> WHAT IS A SECURE BORDER?
>> WHAT IS A SECURE BORDER? >> I'VE BEEN ASKING THAT
>> I'VE BEEN ASKING THAT QUESTION OF THE PROPONENTS.
QUESTION OF THE PROPONENTS. WHAT'S THE TRIGGER.
WHAT'S THE TRIGGER. WHAT'S THE TRIGGER IN WHICH YOU
WHAT'S THE TRIGGER IN WHICH YOU REACH A LEVEL OF SATISFACTION
REACH A LEVEL OF SATISFACTION THAT THE BORDER IS SECURE.
THAT THE BORDER IS SECURE. I DON'T THINK THERE IS A FINITE
I DON'T THINK THERE IS A FINITE THING THAT YOU CAN SAY, A
THING THAT YOU CAN SAY, A PANACEA POINT, THAT THE BORDER
PANACEA POINT, THAT THE BORDER IS SECURE.
IS SECURE. THE INSTABILITY WE SEE NOW WE
THE INSTABILITY WE SEE NOW WE SAW EARLIER HAS BEEN REDUCED.
SAW EARLIER HAS BEEN REDUCED. RECORD NUMBERS OF DEPORTATIONS.
RECORD NUMBERS OF DEPORTATIONS. RECORD NUMBER OF DETENTIONS.
RECORD NUMBER OF DETENTIONS. RECORD NUMBERS OF A BORDER
RECORD NUMBERS OF A BORDER PATROL PRESENCE ON THE BORDER,
PATROL PRESENCE ON THE BORDER, AND AS YOU SAW THAT OTHER STUDY
AND AS YOU SAW THAT OTHER STUDY THAT WE'VE SPENT MORE ON THE
THAT WE'VE SPENT MORE ON THE HOMELAND SECURITY ENFORCEMENT
HOMELAND SECURITY ENFORCEMENT SIDE THAN IN MANY OTHER MILITARY
SIDE THAN IN MANY OTHER MILITARY PUBLIC SAFETY EFFORTS THROUGHOUT
PUBLIC SAFETY EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THIS HAD THIS COUNTRY, SO IT'S
THIS HAD THIS COUNTRY, SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF NOT PUTTING
NOT A QUESTION OF NOT PUTTING ENOUGH MONEY INTO IT.
ENOUGH MONEY INTO IT. IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT THAT
IT'S A QUESTION OF WHAT THAT TRIGGER IS.
TRIGGER IS. AND I BELIEVE THAT A PATH, AN
AND I BELIEVE THAT A PATH, AN ABILITY TO COME OUT OF THE
ABILITY TO COME OUT OF THE SHADOWS, IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND
SHADOWS, IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND KNOW WHO -- WHO YOU ARE AND WE
KNOW WHO -- WHO YOU ARE AND WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE IS PROBABLY A
KNOW WHO YOU ARE IS PROBABLY A LINCHPIN THAT'S MISSING FROM THE
LINCHPIN THAT'S MISSING FROM THE WHOLE ENFORCEMENT SECURITY SIDE.
WHOLE ENFORCEMENT SECURITY SIDE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER A
I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVER A PURE WAY TO SAY THE BORDER IS
PURE WAY TO SAY THE BORDER IS SECURE, BUT I THINK WE'VE
SECURE, BUT I THINK WE'VE REACHED AN APEX WHERE WE CAN NOW
REACHED AN APEX WHERE WE CAN NOW GO ON WITH THE REST OF THE
GO ON WITH THE REST OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE
DISCUSSION ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE REFORM.
REFORM. I SEE IT AS A DELAYING TACTIC
I SEE IT AS A DELAYING TACTIC MORE THAN REALLY WANTING TO KNOW
MORE THAN REALLY WANTING TO KNOW WHAT THAT SECURITY MEANS.
WHAT THAT SECURITY MEANS. NOBODY CAN DEFINE IT.
NOBODY CAN DEFINE IT. >> I'M STILL VERY CONCERNED
>> I'M STILL VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SECURITY ON THE BORDER.
ABOUT SECURITY ON THE BORDER. THE PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT,
THE PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT, EVERY SINGLE DAY ARE THREATENED
EVERY SINGLE DAY ARE THREATENED IN THEIR HOME AND ON THEIR LANDS
IN THEIR HOME AND ON THEIR LANDS BY THE DRUG CARTELS, AND THAT'S
BY THE DRUG CARTELS, AND THAT'S WHY AS A MEMBER OF THE HOMELAND
WHY AS A MEMBER OF THE HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE, I'M GOING TO
SECURITY COMMITTEE, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO PRESS FOR
CONTINUE TO PRESS FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE WAY WE
IMPROVEMENTS IN THE WAY WE DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES AS WELL AS
DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES AS WELL AS MORE RESOURCES TO ONCE AND FOR
MORE RESOURCES TO ONCE AND FOR ALL CURE OUR BORDER AND REDUCE
ALL CURE OUR BORDER AND REDUCE WHAT ARIZONA, WHAT THIS DISTRICT
WHAT ARIZONA, WHAT THIS DISTRICT HAS BECOME, A MAJOR FUNNEL FOR
HAS BECOME, A MAJOR FUNNEL FOR ILLEGAL DRUGS COMING INTO OUR
ILLEGAL DRUGS COMING INTO OUR COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> NOW THE ARGUMENT ABOUT BORDER
>> NOW THE ARGUMENT ABOUT BORDER SECURITY FIRST REFORM AFTER HAS
SECURITY FIRST REFORM AFTER HAS BEEN MADE BY REPUBLICANS, AND,
BEEN MADE BY REPUBLICANS, AND, IN FACT, IT HAS HELD UP ANY
IN FACT, IT HAS HELD UP ANY EFFORTS AT COMPREHENSIVE REFORM
EFFORTS AT COMPREHENSIVE REFORM OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. THE REPORT THAT YOU ASKED THE
THE REPORT THAT YOU ASKED THE GENERAL ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE TO
GENERAL ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE TO DO THAT WAS JUST RELEASED THIS
DO THAT WAS JUST RELEASED THIS WEEK IN FACT SAYS THAT THERE'S A
WEEK IN FACT SAYS THAT THERE'S A STRUGGLE OVER TRYING TO
STRUGGLE OVER TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT BORDER SECURITY
DETERMINE WHAT BORDER SECURITY ACTUALLY MEANS.
ACTUALLY MEANS. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN? >> WELL, THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE
>> WELL, THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS NOT YET DEFINED WHAT IT
HAS NOT YET DEFINED WHAT IT MEANS.
MEANS. I THINK THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO
I THINK THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO DETERMINE THIS.
DETERMINE THIS. >> ONE OF THE FIRST WAYS THAT I
>> ONE OF THE FIRST WAYS THAT I LOOK TO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION
LOOK TO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION OF BORDER SECURITY AND WHEN ARE
OF BORDER SECURITY AND WHEN ARE WE SECURE?
WE SECURE? I LOOK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
I LOOK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING ON OR NEAR THE BORDER.
LIVING ON OR NEAR THE BORDER. I HAVE REGULAR COMMUNICATIONS
I HAVE REGULAR COMMUNICATIONS WITH RANCHERS WHO FEEL THAT THEY
WITH RANCHERS WHO FEEL THAT THEY HAVE ESSENTIALLY BEEN ABANDONED
HAVE ESSENTIALLY BEEN ABANDONED AND HAVE BEEN LEFT TO FEND FOR
AND HAVE BEEN LEFT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES.
THEMSELVES. THE MURDER OF ROB KRENTZ, ONE OF
THE MURDER OF ROB KRENTZ, ONE OF THEIR NEIGHBORS A COUPLE YEARS
THEIR NEIGHBORS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WAS A VERY GOOD CASE IN
AGO, WAS A VERY GOOD CASE IN POINT OF WHY PEOPLE FEEL LESS
POINT OF WHY PEOPLE FEEL LESS SAFE IN THEIR HOME.
SAFE IN THEIR HOME. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT. WE CAN'T HAVE ANY AMERICAN
WE CAN'T HAVE ANY AMERICAN CITIZENS FEELING LIKE THEY CAN'T
CITIZENS FEELING LIKE THEY CAN'T GO TO THE CLOTHESLINE WITHOUT
GO TO THE CLOTHESLINE WITHOUT CARRYING A GUN OR THEY HAVE TO
CARRYING A GUN OR THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO TOWN WITH
TAKE THEIR KIDS TO TOWN WITH THEM WHEN THEY GO RATHER THAN
THEM WHEN THEY GO RATHER THAN LEAVE THEM HOME.
LEAVE THEM HOME. THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE, SO WE HAVE
THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE, SO WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO, WHATEVER WE
TO CONTINUE TO DO, WHATEVER WE CAN, TO MAKE THOSE FAMILIES
CAN, TO MAKE THOSE FAMILIES UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE GOING TO
UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE GOING TO STAND UP FOR THEM, AND WHEN THEY
STAND UP FOR THEM, AND WHEN THEY TELL ME THAT THE TRAFFIC IS
TELL ME THAT THE TRAFFIC IS REDUCED TO A VERY LOW LEVEL, AND
REDUCED TO A VERY LOW LEVEL, AND I BELIEVE IN THEIR MINDS AND
I BELIEVE IN THEIR MINDS AND MINE, TOO, THAT THE BOTHERED IS
MINE, TOO, THAT THE BOTHERED IS MORE SECURE.
MORE SECURE. >> THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE TUCSON
>> THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE TUCSON SHOOTING TRAGEDY AND THE NEWTOWN
SHOOTING TRAGEDY AND THE NEWTOWN SCHOOL SLAUGHTER HAVE BARBER ND
SCHOOL SLAUGHTER HAVE BARBER ND GRIJALVA POISED FOR THE GUN
GRIJALVA POISED FOR THE GUN CONTROL DEBATE.
CONTROL DEBATE. >> DO WE NEED STRICTER GUN
>> DO WE NEED STRICTER GUN CONTROL LAWS IN OUR COUNTRY?
CONTROL LAWS IN OUR COUNTRY? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE ISSUE OF WHAT GUNS ARE AVAILABLE
ISSUE OF WHAT GUNS ARE AVAILABLE IS A VERY PERSONAL ISSUE WITH
IS A VERY PERSONAL ISSUE WITH ME.
ME. TWO YEARS AGO THIS WEEK, ALONG
TWO YEARS AGO THIS WEEK, ALONG WITH 19 -- 18 OTHERS, I WAS
WITH 19 -- 18 OTHERS, I WAS WOUNDED IN THE SHOOTING AT THE
WOUNDED IN THE SHOOTING AT THE SAFEWAY.
SAFEWAY. THE YOUNG MAN WHO SHOT US HAD A
THE YOUNG MAN WHO SHOT US HAD A 30-BULLET EXTENDED MAGAZINE IN
30-BULLET EXTENDED MAGAZINE IN HIS GUN.
HIS GUN. IN LESS THAN 45 SECONDS HE
IN LESS THAN 45 SECONDS HE KILLED SIX PEOPLE AND WOUNDED 13
KILLED SIX PEOPLE AND WOUNDED 13 OTHERS.
OTHERS. THAT KIND OF FIREPOWER I BELIEVE
THAT KIND OF FIREPOWER I BELIEVE IS TOO MUCH, AND SO WHAT I'M IN
IS TOO MUCH, AND SO WHAT I'M IN FAVOR OF ARE THREE THINGS AS WE
FAVOR OF ARE THREE THINGS AS WE TRY TO ADDRESS THE MASS
TRY TO ADDRESS THE MASS SHOOTINGS.
SHOOTINGS. FIRST OF ALL, BASED UPON MY OWN
FIRST OF ALL, BASED UPON MY OWN EXPERIENCE THAT DAY AND MY
EXPERIENCE THAT DAY AND MY BACKGROUND IN MENTAL HEALTH, WE
BACKGROUND IN MENTAL HEALTH, WE HAVE TO DO BETTER.
HAVE TO DO BETTER. WITH MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES,
WITH MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, IDENTIFICATION OF PEOPLE WITH
IDENTIFICATION OF PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND SERVICES AND
MENTAL ILLNESS AND SERVICES AND INTERCEPTION UNTIL WE GET TO
INTERCEPTION UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT.
THAT POINT. 95% OF PEOPLE IN MENTAL ILLNESS
95% OF PEOPLE IN MENTAL ILLNESS NEVER COMMIT A VIOLENT ACT BUT
NEVER COMMIT A VIOLENT ACT BUT THOSE THAT ARE UNTREATED AT THE
THOSE THAT ARE UNTREATED AT THE VERY SERIOUS END OF THE SCALE
VERY SERIOUS END OF THE SCALE CAN GO TO VIOLENCE AND WE HAVE
CAN GO TO VIOLENCE AND WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO
TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO PREVENT IT.
PREVENT IT. SECONDLY WE HAVE TO REDUCE THE
SECONDLY WE HAVE TO REDUCE THE AVAILABILITY OF THESE HIGH
AVAILABILITY OF THESE HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES THAT CAN
CAPACITY MAGAZINES THAT CAN SHOOT 30 AND IN THE CASE OF
SHOOT 30 AND IN THE CASE OF OTHER MAGAZINES 100 BULLETS
OTHER MAGAZINES 100 BULLETS WITHIN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF
WITHIN A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
TIME. I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE
I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE THAT HUNTERS DON'T NEED THIS.
THAT HUNTERS DON'T NEED THIS. HUNTERS WILL TELL YOU THAT,
HUNTERS WILL TELL YOU THAT, THESE KINDS OF WEAPONS.
THESE KINDS OF WEAPONS. WE NEED TO GET THEM OUT OF
WE NEED TO GET THEM OUT OF CIRCULATION, AND THEN THIRDLY,
CIRCULATION, AND THEN THIRDLY, AND THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S NOT
AND THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S NOT TENDED TO ENOUGH.
TENDED TO ENOUGH. THE WHOLE ISSUE OF BACKGROUND
THE WHOLE ISSUE OF BACKGROUND CHECKS.
CHECKS. 40% OF THE GUN SALES IN THIS
40% OF THE GUN SALES IN THIS COUNTRY ARE DONE AT GUN SHOWS,
COUNTRY ARE DONE AT GUN SHOWS, AND THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT IN
AND THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT IN ARIZONA AT LEAST, AND OTHER
ARIZONA AT LEAST, AND OTHER STATES AS WELL, THAT YOU HAVE TO
STATES AS WELL, THAT YOU HAVE TO DO A BACKGROUND CHECK IF YOU
DO A BACKGROUND CHECK IF YOU HAVE A PRIVATE SALE AT A GUN
HAVE A PRIVATE SALE AT A GUN SHOW.
SHOW. THAT'S A LOOPHOLE WE HAVE TO
THAT'S A LOOPHOLE WE HAVE TO CLOSE, BECAUSE WHEN WE CLOSE, IT
CLOSE, BECAUSE WHEN WE CLOSE, IT WE WILL IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE
WE WILL IDENTIFY THOSE PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE GUNS BY LAW,
WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE GUNS BY LAW, FELONS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE
FELONS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTED AS SERIOUS -- SERIOUS
COMMITTED AS SERIOUS -- SERIOUS DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.
DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS. >> I WAS THERE TO TAKE THE VOTE
>> I WAS THERE TO TAKE THE VOTE AGAINST LIFTING THE BAN ON
AGAINST LIFTING THE BAN ON ASSAULT WEAPONS.
ASSAULT WEAPONS. THAT WAS ONE OF MY EARLY 2004,
THAT WAS ONE OF MY EARLY 2004, SECOND TERM I WAS THERE, AND
SECOND TERM I WAS THERE, AND THAT WAS A REGRETTABLE VOTE
THAT WAS A REGRETTABLE VOTE THEN, AND IT'S TIME TO REINSTATE
THEN, AND IT'S TIME TO REINSTATE IT.
IT. IT'S TIME TO PUT LIMITS OF TEN
IT'S TIME TO PUT LIMITS OF TEN CARTRIDGES PER MAGAZINE, AND IT
CARTRIDGES PER MAGAZINE, AND IT IS TIME TO CLOSE THAT -- THAT
IS TIME TO CLOSE THAT -- THAT GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE.
GUN SHOW LOOPHOLE. WHEN 40% OF THE GUNS PURCHASED
WHEN 40% OF THE GUNS PURCHASED IN AMERICA HAVE IN BACKGROUND
IN AMERICA HAVE IN BACKGROUND CHECKS, AND THEY ARE USUALLY
CHECKS, AND THEY ARE USUALLY PURCHASED IN THESE KINDS OF
PURCHASED IN THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS, YOU'VE GOT TO CLOSE
SITUATIONS, YOU'VE GOT TO CLOSE THAT HOLE.
THAT HOLE. YOU'VE GOT TO CLOSE THAT HOLE.
YOU'VE GOT TO CLOSE THAT HOLE. THOSE ARE THE THREE COMMON SENSE
THOSE ARE THE THREE COMMON SENSE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE, AND --
ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE, AND -- AND MAKE IT A MANDATORY FOR
AND MAKE IT A MANDATORY FOR STATES TO RETURN THE DATA INTO
STATES TO RETURN THE DATA INTO THE FEDERAL NETWORK SO THAT
THE FEDERAL NETWORK SO THAT THERE IS A NATIONAL ISSUE ON
THERE IS A NATIONAL ISSUE ON PEOPLE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE.
PEOPLE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE. AND AT THIS POINT I THINK THOSE
AND AT THIS POINT I THINK THOSE TO ME ARE COMMON SENSE.
TO ME ARE COMMON SENSE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER
YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER THINGS THAT I WOULD WANT, BUT TO
THINGS THAT I WOULD WANT, BUT TO ME THOSE ARE THE COMMON SENSE
ME THOSE ARE THE COMMON SENSE CORE THINGS TO BECOME THE
CORE THINGS TO BECOME THE PROCESS OF GUN SAFETY, REDUCING
PROCESS OF GUN SAFETY, REDUCING VIOLENCE AND -- AND INSTITUTING
VIOLENCE AND -- AND INSTITUTING SOME CONTROLS.
SOME CONTROLS. >> THE GUN LOBBY WOULD ARGUE,
>> THE GUN LOBBY WOULD ARGUE, PROBABLY CORRECTLY, THAT BASED
PROBABLY CORRECTLY, THAT BASED ON STATISTICS THE ASSAULT
ON STATISTICS THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN REALLY DIDN'T HAVE
WEAPONS BAN REALLY DIDN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON GUN VIOLENCE.
AN IMPACT ON GUN VIOLENCE. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?
WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT? >> DIDN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON GUN
>> DIDN'T HAVE AN IMPACT ON GUN VIOLENCE IN THE SENSE THAT YOU
VIOLENCE IN THE SENSE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE PEOPLE RUNNING
DIDN'T HAVE PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND WITH ASSAULT WEAPONS
AROUND WITH ASSAULT WEAPONS COMMITTING MAYHEM, AND I THINK
COMMITTING MAYHEM, AND I THINK THAT'S ONE INSTRUMENT THAT'S
THAT'S ONE INSTRUMENT THAT'S OFF, AND LIKE I'VE SAID MANY
OFF, AND LIKE I'VE SAID MANY TIMES, WE SHOULDN'T SELL A GUN
TIMES, WE SHOULDN'T SELL A GUN IN THIS COUNTRY WITHOUT A
IN THIS COUNTRY WITHOUT A BACKGROUND CHECK PERIOD.
BACKGROUND CHECK PERIOD. IT'S A DETERRENT, AND IT'S ALSO
IT'S A DETERRENT, AND IT'S ALSO LIMITING ACCESSIBILITY TO PEOPLE
LIMITING ACCESSIBILITY TO PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE IT.
WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE IT. THE OTHER ISSUE THOUGH IS THE
THE OTHER ISSUE THOUGH IS THE DELAYED TACTIC ON THE GUN ISSUE.
DELAYED TACTIC ON THE GUN ISSUE. YOU'RE ALREADY HEARING IT.
YOU'RE ALREADY HEARING IT. WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT GUNS
WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT GUNS BECAUSE THE FISCAL CRISIS.
BECAUSE THE FISCAL CRISIS. WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT GUNS
WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT GUNS UNTIL WE -- UNTIL WE DEAL WITH
UNTIL WE -- UNTIL WE DEAL WITH MENTAL HEALTH.
MENTAL HEALTH. WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT GUNS
WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT GUNS UNTIL WE TALK ABOUT SCHOOL
UNTIL WE TALK ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY.
SAFETY. WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT GUNS
WE SHOULDN'T TALK ABOUT GUNS UNTIL WE GET HOLLYWOOD UNDER
UNTIL WE GET HOLLYWOOD UNDER CONTROL.
CONTROL. ALL THOSE THEN BECOME EXCUSES
ALL THOSE THEN BECOME EXCUSES NOT TO DEAL WITH THAT, AND AS
NOT TO DEAL WITH THAT, AND AS I'VE SAID TO COLLEAGUES, BOTH
I'VE SAID TO COLLEAGUES, BOTH DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN, SAME
DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN, SAME ISSUE, TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
ISSUE, TWO SEPARATE THINGS. MENTAL HEALTH, SCHOOL SAFETY,
MENTAL HEALTH, SCHOOL SAFETY, IT'S ABOUT RESOURCES.
IT'S ABOUT RESOURCES. YOU CUT $3.4 BILLION OUT OF
YOU CUT $3.4 BILLION OUT OF MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THIS
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IN THIS COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. YOU'VE GOT SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T
YOU'VE GOT SO MUCH THAT WE DON'T HAVE COPS PROGRAMS OR RESOURCE
HAVE COPS PROGRAMS OR RESOURCE OFFICERS ANYMORE.
OFFICERS ANYMORE. THOSE ARE RESOURCE QUESTIONS
THOSE ARE RESOURCE QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE DEALT WITH WITH
THAT CAN BE DEALT WITH WITH RESOURCE.
RESOURCE. THE OTHER ONES, REGULATORY AND
THE OTHER ONES, REGULATORY AND POLICY, AND THAT'S THE ONE
POLICY, AND THAT'S THE ONE CONGRESS CAN DO IF IT HAS THE
CONGRESS CAN DO IF IT HAS THE WILL.
WILL. >> WHAT DO WE AS A SOCIETY NEED
>> WHAT DO WE AS A SOCIETY NEED TO DO TO GAIN A BETTER
TO DO TO GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT GUN
UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT GUN VIOLENCE DOES TO US AND THUS
VIOLENCE DOES TO US AND THUS CURB IT, IF YOU WILL?
CURB IT, IF YOU WILL? WE
WE >> WELL, I THINK EVERYBODY
>> WELL, I THINK EVERYBODY STARTS WITH PARENTS, AND AS LONG
STARTS WITH PARENTS, AND AS LONG AS THEIR KIDS ARE IN THEIR HOMES
AS THEIR KIDS ARE IN THEIR HOMES AND THEY ARE MINORS, EXPOSE
AND THEY ARE MINORS, EXPOSE THEIR CHILDREN TO, I'M VERY
THEIR CHILDREN TO, I'M VERY PROUD TO SAY THAT MY DAUGHTERS
PROUD TO SAY THAT MY DAUGHTERS HAVE TAUGHT THEIR CHILDREN, MY
HAVE TAUGHT THEIR CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN, VERY WELL ABOUT
GRANDCHILDREN, VERY WELL ABOUT VIOLENCE AND ARE OPPOSED TO IT.
VIOLENCE AND ARE OPPOSED TO IT. AS WE ALL SHOULD BE, BUT THEY
AS WE ALL SHOULD BE, BUT THEY ALSO GO A STEP FURTHER.
ALSO GO A STEP FURTHER. THEY MONITOR VERY CAREFULLY WHAT
THEY MONITOR VERY CAREFULLY WHAT THEY -- WHAT THEY SEE IN MOVIES
THEY -- WHAT THEY SEE IN MOVIES AND WHAT THEY SEE ON TELEVISION,
AND WHAT THEY SEE ON TELEVISION, VIDEO GAMES THAT THEY MIGHT BE
VIDEO GAMES THAT THEY MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN.
INVOLVED IN. I THINK EVERY PARENT NEEDS TO
I THINK EVERY PARENT NEEDS TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING
TAKE A HARD LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING PORTRAYED IN FILMS, ON
PORTRAYED IN FILMS, ON TELEVISION, AND IN VIDEO GAMES,
TELEVISION, AND IN VIDEO GAMES, TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A
TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A YOUNG PERSON, CHILD, A MINOR,
YOUNG PERSON, CHILD, A MINOR, SHOULD BE EXPOSED TO THIS.
SHOULD BE EXPOSED TO THIS. IT'S REALLY A PARENTAL ISSUE IN
IT'S REALLY A PARENTAL ISSUE IN THE END TO TEACH THE VALUES THAT
THE END TO TEACH THE VALUES THAT WE WANT THOSE CHILDREN TO HAVE
WE WANT THOSE CHILDREN TO HAVE BUT NOT TO CONTRADICT OURSELVES
BUT NOT TO CONTRADICT OURSELVES BY EXPOSING THEM TO THOSE KIND
BY EXPOSING THEM TO THOSE KIND OF VIOLENT SHOWS.
OF VIOLENT SHOWS. >> AND FINALLY WE ASKED
>> AND FINALLY WE ASKED CONGRESSMAN BARBER TO REFLECT ON
CONGRESSMAN BARBER TO REFLECT ON THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF THE
THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF THE TUCSON SHOOTING.
TUCSON SHOOTING. >> WILL YOU SHARE WITH US YOUR
>> WILL YOU SHARE WITH US YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR REFLECTIONS
THOUGHTS AND YOUR REFLECTIONS THIS WEEK, THE SECOND
THIS WEEK, THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF THE TUCSON
ANNIVERSARY OF THE TUCSON SHOOTING?
SHOOTING? >> WELL, TUESDAY WAS A VERY
>> WELL, TUESDAY WAS A VERY SOMBER DAY FOR VIRTUALLY ALL OF
SOMBER DAY FOR VIRTUALLY ALL OF US WHO I THINK ALL OF US WHO
US WHO I THINK ALL OF US WHO WERE INVOLVED THAT DAY.
WERE INVOLVED THAT DAY. PEOPLE WERE -- WERE SHOT.
PEOPLE WERE -- WERE SHOT. OTHERS DIED.
OTHERS DIED. FAMILY MEMBERS OF THOSE THAT WE
FAMILY MEMBERS OF THOSE THAT WE LOST I THINK WERE HAVING A LOT
LOST I THINK WERE HAVING A LOT OF EMOTIONAL RESPONSE AND
OF EMOTIONAL RESPONSE AND REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED.
REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED. I CERTAINLY REMEMBER IT.
I CERTAINLY REMEMBER IT. I REMEMBER IT OFTEN, BUT ON THAT
I REMEMBER IT OFTEN, BUT ON THAT DAY THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY, I
DAY THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY, I REMEMBER VERY CLEARLY SEEING
REMEMBER VERY CLEARLY SEEING CONGRESSMAN GIFFORDS SHOT,
CONGRESSMAN GIFFORDS SHOT, SEEING MY COLLEAGUE GABE DIE,
SEEING MY COLLEAGUE GABE DIE, HAVING HIM DIE ON ONE SIDE AND
HAVING HIM DIE ON ONE SIDE AND JOHN ROLL ON THE OTHERS.
JOHN ROLL ON THE OTHERS. THOSE MEMORIES WILL NEVER LEAVE.
THOSE MEMORIES WILL NEVER LEAVE. I TRY TO MANAGE WHAT THAT BRINGS
I TRY TO MANAGE WHAT THAT BRINGS UP FOR ME, BUT WHEN THE
UP FOR ME, BUT WHEN THE SHOOTINGS IN THE CONNECTICUT
SHOOTINGS IN THE CONNECTICUT TOOK PLACE, IT MOVES THIS WHOLE
TOOK PLACE, IT MOVES THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE HAD, THIS
EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE HAD, THIS TRAGEDY THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN
TRAGEDY THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH TO ANOTHER LEVEL.
THROUGH TO ANOTHER LEVEL. WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE
WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT THOSE CHILDREN IN THAT CLASSROOM, WITH
CHILDREN IN THAT CLASSROOM, WITH TEACHERS TRYING TO PROTECT THEM,
TEACHERS TRYING TO PROTECT THEM, BEING SLAUGHTERED BY A SHOOTER
BEING SLAUGHTERED BY A SHOOTER WITH HIGH CAPACITY WEAPONS, I
WITH HIGH CAPACITY WEAPONS, I THOUGHT WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING
THOUGHT WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, AND THAT'S WHAT I
ABOUT THIS, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFLECTING ON THIS PAST
WAS REFLECTING ON THIS PAST TUESDAY.
TUESDAY. THE GRIEF AND LOSS THAT WE
THE GRIEF AND LOSS THAT WE EXPERIENCED TWO YEARS AGO IS
EXPERIENCED TWO YEARS AGO IS STILL WITH US, BUT IT'S VERY
STILL WITH US, BUT IT'S VERY FRESH FOR THE PEOPLE IN
FRESH FOR THE PEOPLE IN CONNECTICUT, THOSE FAMILIES IN
CONNECTICUT, THOSE FAMILIES IN NEWTOWN, AND ALL I CAN SAY IS MY
NEWTOWN, AND ALL I CAN SAY IS MY HEART IS BROKEN FOR WHAT THEY
HEART IS BROKEN FOR WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH.
ARE GOING THROUGH. I KNOW IT ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL
I KNOW IT ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL MYSELF.
MYSELF. AND I JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING
AND I JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THERE. I THINK IT'S A REAL TIPPING
I THINK IT'S A REAL TIPPING POINT IN THIS COUNTRY WHAT
POINT IN THIS COUNTRY WHAT HAPPENED IN CONNECTICUT.
HAPPENED IN CONNECTICUT. FOR ME PERSONALLY, THREE DAYS
FOR ME PERSONALLY, THREE DAYS AFTER THE SHOOTING, I WAS
AFTER THE SHOOTING, I WAS READING THE PAPER, AND THERE WAS
READING THE PAPER, AND THERE WAS A PHOTOGRAPH -- THE FIRST
A PHOTOGRAPH -- THE FIRST PHOTOGRAPH OF ONE OF THE
PHOTOGRAPH OF ONE OF THE CHILDREN WHO WAS KILLED.
CHILDREN WHO WAS KILLED. HER NAME WAS EMILY, AND I LOOKED
HER NAME WAS EMILY, AND I LOOKED AT THAT PHOTOGRAPH, LOOKING BACK
AT THAT PHOTOGRAPH, LOOKING BACK AT ME FROM THE PAGE, YOUNG,
AT ME FROM THE PAGE, YOUNG, BEAUTIFUL CHILD WITH A LOCK OF
BEAUTIFUL CHILD WITH A LOCK OF BLOND HAIR ACROSS HER FOREHEAD,
BLOND HAIR ACROSS HER FOREHEAD, AND YOU KNOW WHAT I SAW?
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I SAW? I SAW MY TWO GRAND DAUGHTERS IN
I SAW MY TWO GRAND DAUGHTERS IN THAT CHILD'S FACE.
THAT CHILD'S FACE. AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY
AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER FAMILIES ACROSS THE
OTHER FAMILIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHO HAVE PROBABLY HAD
COUNTRY WHO HAVE PROBABLY HAD THAT SAME EXPERIENCE.
THAT SAME EXPERIENCE. I NEVER WANT THAT KIND OF ISSUE
I NEVER WANT THAT KIND OF ISSUE OR TRAGEDY TO COME TO ANY SCHOOL
OR TRAGEDY TO COME TO ANY SCHOOL AGAIN OR ANYWHERE AGAIN AND
AGAIN OR ANYWHERE AGAIN AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO TAKE
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.
ACTION. WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT CONDOLENCES
WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT CONDOLENCES THOUGH I SEND THEM.
THOUGH I SEND THEM. CAN'T JUST TALK ABOUT HAVING A
CAN'T JUST TALK ABOUT HAVING A CONVERSATION, ALTHOUGH WE'VE HAD
CONVERSATION, ALTHOUGH WE'VE HAD THEM.
THEM. WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME ACTION NOW.
WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME ACTION NOW. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS PREPARED
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS PREPARED TO DO AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS,
TO DO AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, AS A SURVIVOR, AS A GRANDPARENT
AS A SURVIVOR, AS A GRANDPARENT AND SOMEONE WHO HAS MENTAL
AND SOMEONE WHO HAS MENTAL HEALTH BACKGROUND.
HEALTH BACKGROUND. I THINK I CAN BRING SOMETHING TO
I THINK I CAN BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE THAT MIGHT MAKE A
THE TABLE THAT MIGHT MAKE A DIFFERENCE GOING FORWARD.
DIFFERENCE GOING FORWARD. >> GABRIELLE GIFFORDS SAID IN AN
>> GABRIELLE GIFFORDS SAID IN AN INTERVIEW THIS WEEK THAT OFTEN
INTERVIEW THIS WEEK THAT OFTEN SHE'S SAD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED,
SHE'S SAD ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, AND SOMETIMES EVEN ANGRY ABOUT
AND SOMETIMES EVEN ANGRY ABOUT IT.
IT. WHAT EMOTIONS DO YOU EXPERIENCE?
WHAT EMOTIONS DO YOU EXPERIENCE? DO YOU EXPERIENCE SADNESS,
DO YOU EXPERIENCE SADNESS, ANGER?
ANGER? >> SADNESS FOR SURE, BUT I'VE
>> SADNESS FOR SURE, BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY ANY
NEVER BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY ANY OF MY FEELINGS AS ANGER.
OF MY FEELINGS AS ANGER. I'M ANGRY IN A SENSE THAT WE
I'M ANGRY IN A SENSE THAT WE LOST SOME SIX BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE,
LOST SOME SIX BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE, THAT 13 OTHERS WERE WOUNDED,
THAT 13 OTHERS WERE WOUNDED, MYSELF INCLUDED AND CERTAINLY
MYSELF INCLUDED AND CERTAINLY CONGRESSWOMAN GIFFORDS WHO HAS
CONGRESSWOMAN GIFFORDS WHO HAS BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO THE
BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO THE COUNTRY, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I
COUNTRY, AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THAT
THINK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY AND WHO WAS THE PERPETRATOR,
DAY AND WHO WAS THE PERPETRATOR, GIVEN MY BACKGROUND IN MENTAL
GIVEN MY BACKGROUND IN MENTAL HEALTH, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE
HEALTH, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE FAILED JARED LOUGHNER, WE AS A
FAILED JARED LOUGHNER, WE AS A SOCIETY, AS A COMMUNITY, BECAUSE
SOCIETY, AS A COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THERE WERE PLENTY OF SIGNS HE
THERE WERE PLENTY OF SIGNS HE WAS A DISTURBED YOUNG MAN AND
WAS A DISTURBED YOUNG MAN AND NOTHING WAS DONE TO DIAGNOSE OR
NOTHING WAS DONE TO DIAGNOSE OR TREAT HIS ILLNESS AND HE ENDED
TREAT HIS ILLNESS AND HE ENDED UP DOING WHAT HE DID.
UP DOING WHAT HE DID. I HAVE A HARD TIME BEING ANGRY
I HAVE A HARD TIME BEING ANGRY AT HIM, HAVING A MENTAL ILLNESS
AT HIM, HAVING A MENTAL ILLNESS OF THE MOST SEVERE KIND AND I'M
OF THE MOST SEVERE KIND AND I'M ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED THAT WE
ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED THAT WE LOST SO MANY PEOPLE AND WOUNDED
LOST SO MANY PEOPLE AND WOUNDED OTHERS, AND HE IS WHERE HE NEEDS
OTHERS, AND HE IS WHERE HE NEEDS TO BE NOW.
TO BE NOW. IT'S A SAD COMMENTARY, HOWEVER,
IT'S A SAD COMMENTARY, HOWEVER, THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT HE ENDED
THAT THE ONLY WAY THAT HE ENDED UP GETTING TREATMENT FOR HIS
UP GETTING TREATMENT FOR HIS SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS IS BY
SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS IS BY COMMITTING THIS AWFUL ACT AND
COMMITTING THIS AWFUL ACT AND BEING INCARCERATED IN A
BEING INCARCERATED IN A HOSPITAL, PRISON HOSPITAL WHERE
HOSPITAL, PRISON HOSPITAL WHERE HE'S GOING TO GET TREATMENT.
HE'S GOING TO GET TREATMENT. WE SHOULD NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN
WE SHOULD NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.
AGAIN. >> BARBER AND GRIJALVA HAD MORE
>> BARBER AND GRIJALVA HAD MORE TO SAY.
TO SAY. SEE THEIR FULL INTERVIEWS AT
SEE THEIR FULL INTERVIEWS AT AZWEEK.COM.
AZWEEK.COM. WE SOUGHT INTERVIEWS WITH
WE SOUGHT INTERVIEWS WITH SEVERAL REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF
SEVERAL REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FROM ARIZONA THIS WEEK
CONGRESS FROM ARIZONA THIS WEEK BUT COULDN'T MATCH SCHEDULE.
BUT COULDN'T MATCH SCHEDULE. WE'LL BRING THEIR VIEWS ON
WE'LL BRING THEIR VIEWS ON FUTURE PROGRAMS.
FUTURE PROGRAMS. NEXT FRIDAY GOVERNOR JAN BREWER
NEXT FRIDAY GOVERNOR JAN BREWER DISCUSSES HER AGENDA FOR THE
DISCUSSES HER AGENDA FOR THE YEAR, AND WE'LL HAVE LEGISLATIVE
YEAR, AND WE'LL HAVE LEGISLATIVE REACTION TO IT.
REACTION TO IT. FOR "ARIZONA WEEK" I'M MICHAEL
FOR "ARIZONA WEEK" I'M MICHAEL CHIHOCK.
CHIHOCK. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.