2012 Macbook Pro Retina smashes a fully loaded Mac Pro in real world software tests

Uploaded by TastyTV1 on 20.07.2012

>> Dylan: Hey everyone. Welcome to another installment of Tasty TV.
>>Paul: Hey there. >> Dylan: Today we've got something special
for you, we're going to be taking a look at the next generation two thousand and, hey!,
get your hands off it. >>Paul: It's his!
>> Dylan: My next generation 2012 MacBook with Retina display. And so, you may have
already seen a lot of information about it, so rather than going into how cool the display
is, how thin the design is, all this kind of stuff. We're going to have a look at how
real world applications run on this machine. And also, since Apple tout it as an alternative
to a desktop machine, we've got this monstrous Mac Pro we're going to pit against it.
>> Paul: Yeah that's right. This Mac Pro is a pretty beastly machine. it's a 12 core,
2.93 Gigahertz, 64 Gigabytes of RAM with a three terabyte RAID built into it. It was
bought six weeks ago, just before the latest round of updates from Apple so you know, that's
a bit of a shame but it's pretty much you know.
>> Dylan: Yeah, it's the top of the line as of two months ago.
>> Paul: That's right. This Mac Book Pro that we've pitted it against here is a 2.6 Gigahertz,
8 gig of RAM model. The applications that we tested the machines against each other
with was, uh, Final Cut Pro 10, and 3D Software called Maya from Autodesk and Adobe Lightroom.
We also ran some benchmarking tests too… So the main reason we were doing these tests
was to try to determine whether or not the extra grunt that's provided on the Mac Pro
CPU wise, you know, translates to grunt in real world software.
>> Dylan: Like, is it worth the money sort of thing?
>> Paul: That's right! and also, is it faster? You know, just because you've got tons of
CPU processing power, does that mean that it's faster
>> Dylan: Hmm, yup. >> Paul: That's what it was all about.
>> Dylan: Ok. Yeah, something about pro apps is that they're always pushing your machine
to the limit and sometimes this means a crash requiring a system reboot. So, one thing we
wanted to highlight was these reboot times on the Mac Pro, it was like a minute 25 seconds
to go for a full reboot. >> Paul: Long time.
>> Dylan: With just a standard hard drive obviously for a boot drive. Whereas with this
new MacBook Pro, it was 17 seconds for a complete reboot.
>> Paul: Yeah, which is Sweet. >> Dylan: Which is great. It's amazing.
>> Paul: Yeah, absolutely. >> Dylan: That is because of the SSD, hard
drive in this MacBook Pro. It gives it just a massive advantage on speed over a normal
hard drive. >> Paul: Yes.
>> Dylan: But, you can also use a RAID. Which is a bunch of hard drives to try and get those
kind of similar speeds. So, wanted to see how does that, how does this SSD compare to
the RAID as far as speeds. >> Paul: That's right.
>> Dylan: Oh well, so you think, we'll just chuck a SSD in the Mac Pro.
>> Paul: Yeah. >> Dylan: But we looked at the Apple website
and the speeds that they tout for the SSD's in a Mac Pro are still half the speed of this.
>> Paul: That's right. >> Dylan: So it's just some new technology,
some new way they're doing it. >> Paul: Maybe it's directly wired on the
motherboard, we haven't looked into exactly why.
>> Dylan: Yeah, yeah, it's just crazy fast. I mean the disadvantages to SSD is, obviously
you don't get as much storage as with a RAID. But this can also be remedied by the fact
that you can get lots of great Thunderbolt RAID controllers for MacBooks.
>> Paul: So you can have stuff stored off to the side and still run primarily off that.
>> Dylan: And still get exactly those same speeds.
>> Paul: That's right. Benchmarking wise, the Mac Pro's 12 core processor slaughtered
the MacBook Pro, you know, in the benchmarking tests. Right so just those tests, but not
by as much as you would've expected from a 12 versus 4 core scenario. So that was interesting.
Graphics wise, they were both quite similar. When we ran Final Cut Pro 10, What we did
with it was a render test. We used one of our previous episodes of Tasty TV as the testing
bed for it and we had Final Cut re-render all the effects and dissolves for that edit.
The results were close but, you know, this machine, the MacBook Pro did beat the Mac
Pro by over four seconds. >> Dylan: Surprisingly.
>> Paul: Over, you know, it was a five to six minute piece. So that was kind of interesting.
And, when you did add some processor intensive effects, into the edit, that's when the Mac
Pro did come back and win but not we're talking about by only a little bit.
>> Dylan: Maybe twenty seconds or something. >> Paul: I'm sure if you threw stacks and
stacks of effects and made it unrealistic, then the Mac Pro would take off again but
that's what we're trying to do is real world tests.
>> Dylan: Hmm. >> Paul: Not just some simulated thing where
you throw a zillion effects on. >> Dylan: Yes. Exactly.
>> Paul: Yeah so, Adobe Lightroom we exported a bunch of RAW files, you know, to JPEG. and
again, the MacBook beat the Mac Pro by at least five seconds.
>> Dylan: Yeah. >> Paul: And that was the Mac Pro writing
to its RAID zero, so this is not so much an SSD issue, you know, it's just overall the
bus speed, the whole works, how it's put together. >> Dylan: Yeah. Yeah, and lastly, we did a
test with the Maya 3D animation software from Autodesk. It's the most commonly used software,
you know, for creating feature films, special effects and stuff like that. For this test,
we ran a complicated simulation which then uses the graphics card and also uses the disk
so it was a good kind of all round test. >> Paul: Very pushy.
>> Dylan: And yeah, and again, this MacBook Pro won it by a fairly big margin so it's
pretty amazing. >> Paul: Yeah.
>> Dylan: It's a great little machine. >> Paul: Yes it is.
>> Dylan: So, what's the deal here? Why isn't this huge, expensive desktop monster absolutely
crushing this little laptop? Well, there's a couple of clues here and one of them was
the fact that during these tests, the Mac Pro isn't really, the processors aren't really
being utilised to their full potential. There's a couple of reasons for this, I mean, there's
the fact that hardware wise, the Mac Pro is a bit more dated. It doesn't have the latest
intel chips like all new Macs do. >> Paul: Yes.
>> Dylan: And also the fact that the software really needs to be optimised for that kind
of power and those kind of cores and unfortunately, you know, that's not the case.
>> Paul: All right, so we thought it's worth taking a look at price in terms of the comparison
of these two machines, so the MacBook Pro Retina with 16 gig of RAM is around, $3000
US dollars. If you added a 27" monitor and a 4 terabyte Thunderbolt RAID array, to match
the specs of the Mac Pro, then you're talking about $5100. So, contrast that with the Mac
Pro with a monitor and four terabyte RAID. That sells for around $9600. So you are talking
about a fair bit of difference. That means that for a lot less money, you get a portable,
energy efficient and quiet computer that has a small footprint and delivers some serious
performance. And that's something well worth thinking about.
>> Dylan: Yeah, totally… So that's it for our round up. Please go and check out our
gaming test as well, we got this Battlefield 3 running on this bad boy and that's pretty
cool too. >> Paul: Oh yeah, that's nice! We do like
Battlefield 3. >> Dylan: Yeah, yeah, and also please subscribe
and leave your comments. We always love to hear your feedback.
>> Paul: Yes we do. Thanks a lot and thanks for your time and we'll see you next time.
Have a good one. >> Dylan: See you later.