Monday, Oct. 10, 2011 - Evening Edition

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>> JOANNE: Coming up next on KPBS Evening Edition, occupied San Diego continues tonight
as the police investigating a death near the site.
>> DWANE: San Diegans get a chance to be heard about raising electric rates.
KPBS Evening Edition starts now. >> JOANNE: Hello thanks for joining us I'm
Joanne Faryon. >> DWANE: And I'm Dwane brown.
We will talk about the governor's proposed landfill in north county.
>> JOANNE: First, police officers are investigating an apparent suicide, a person jumped from
the 8th floor from the parking garage. Occupied San Diego says he is part of the
99% which is a slogan they use to identify themselves and they plan a candle light vigil
for him tonight. >> DWANE: The occupied San Diego has taken
up residence, to draw attention to what they call greedy corporations and banks who have
infiltrated our political system. >> DWANE: We are here in the civic center
plaza next to city hall downtown. Occupied San Diego has set up shop here indefinitely.
. This city worker says he has never seen this
kind of dialogue between so many different people.
>>> Folks that are hard core social lists trying to answer to the entrepreneur kids
who don't want to be part of this message system.
Nobody has figured out what is needed to unify this country.
>>> We have not come up with actionable items but that will come and right now we're used
to consensus building, if you remember the 2011 elections, there was a lot of people
unhappy because it was a slim margin of victory on that.
. >>> We recognize that they're exercising their
first amendment right however there is a violation of anyone who erects a tent in a public location
and we have been working closely with them, been tolerate that go but we're going to continue
to work with them. >> DWANE: Police say about 1500 people participated
in the first protest on Friday, the numbers have dwindled to 160 people in the civic center
plaza. >> JOANNE: San Diego gas and electric customers
are getting a chance to weigh in on the utilities request for a billion dollar plus rate hike.
The California public utilities commission is holding hearings around San Diego county
this week and Erik Anderson joins us, Erik why the hearings this week?
>> The public utilities commission is looking for engine put on a large rate hike increase
for San Diego gas and electric. They say they need somewhere in the neighborhood
of a billion dollars plus in order to continue to operate in the a comfortable financial
environment. The public utilities commission came to San
Diego first of four meetings they will have here this week and for the customers of SDG&E,
like Daniel beaman, manufacture them were grateful to have a chance to talk about their
feelings. >>> There seems to be a notice every month
that something is going to be increased and then when we look at it we find out that we
have to go on the Internet where a lot of people that I know don't have Internet and
the libraries are closed so they don't have a chance to reactor say anything or do anything
to really participate very well. That's why I appreciated that the CPU C came
down here. >>> Of course the public utilities commission
says that they're interested in what the public has to say and they're looking forward to
incorporating their engine put. >> JOANNE: Erik, a billion plus rate hike,
what would that mean on somebody's bill? >> The utility says it will be roughly 3%
for the typical residential bill, if you're a business, about 7%, but you have to understand
there is variability there, if you have a bill that's in the thousands of dollars during
the course of a year, 3% is going to be bigger than if your bill is in the tens or hundreds
of dollars. That depends.
One thing that is interesting to note is that there is a difference of opinion about whether
or not these things are the way they should be.
Utility and consumer advocates are saying that the utility says they want more money
and the consumer advocates says they need to reduce the rates.
>> JOANNE: KPBS Erik Anderson. >> DWANE: Governor brown has signed a bill
for illegal immigrants to receive state scholarships and financial aid under the California dream
act they would have to meet the same requirements as other students.
>> JOANNE: Governor brown vetoed a bill for box super stores to provide reports to potential
impacts surrounding their neighbors. >> DWANE: The governor has hauled a bill that
would halt construction of the Gregory canyon landfill.
Voters have approved the project twice but it's been opposed by neighbors opposing the
noise and Native American groups who say the location is sacred.
>> JOANNE: As you just heard, governor brown was a busy man over the weekend clearing his
desk of nearly 200 bills, coming up the analysis, but first here is a closer look at the bills
passed and vetoed. This year the governor was presented with
889 bills, he signed 760, vetoed 128 and one passed without his signature.
Of those that did pass, the dream act is among the most controversial, allowing undocumented
college students to be eligible for state financial aid.
Brown also signed bills make it go illegal to openly carry handguns and prohibiting police
from impounding vehicles of most unlicensed drivers.
Minors can get vaccinated for the human Papiloma virus without parents' consent but they can't
use a tanning bed until they're 18. He vetoed big box stores making reports and
vetoed a bill that would have is hauled the development of the Gregory landfill.
Glenn, thanks for being here to talk about these highlights.
We just saw a couple of bills that were vetoed and what stands out to you as things that
have impact in our state or county? >> The biggest probably is the dream act issue
with the college television or excuse me, the financial aid for undocumented students.
That will have the biggest impact nationally, because it's been talked about in the Perry
campaign and so forth. So I think that's going to have the most national
ressonance. The other issues, I think we have to look
at them individually to see, the carry law, carrying of unloaded guns will have shock
value on the second amendment issue and those people who are concerned about gun rights
and gun ownership and that sort of thing and that can have some national implications as
well. >> JOANNE: What about what he vetoed in terms
of not requiring big box stores to do an impact study, what does that say to you in terms
of where this governor is coming from? >> It's hard to tell, frankly, where this
governor is coming from in looking at these. I think he comes from a lot of individual
places. I think he's, you know, governor pragmatic
instead of governor moon beam of the 70s. I see a great deal of his own personal ideas
in here and things that he wanted. He did away with things he didn't think were
right. But I don't see an ideological line here I
see pragmatism on his part. On the big box studies what he said is you
can't do 'em any longer and that's now the state policy instead of individual local government
policies. >> JOANNE: There was another one that we didn't
mention earlier when it comes to ballot initiative and a law or a bill that he signed that requires
them to be on the November ballot, again, trying to get clarification, we're not sure
with the details coming out whether that applies to the state initiatives or to local as well,
what kind of an impact would that have? >> He shifted initiatives to only the general
election ballot which is in November in California and that means it will free up the June ballot
obviously or the primary ballot but it will put a big burden upon the November ballot,
they have a larger turn out, that's his argument, in November, and more people will be involved
in that. But there is a tenancy for more confusion
as well. People when they begin to see all of those
ballot measures get tired, there is a great deal of tiredness that comes from having to
deal with all of those and they begin to say "no" to them.
>> JOANNE: Interesting today is the 100 year anniversary of the ballot initiative, so it's
an interesting day to talk about this. Let's talk about he vetoed a number of bills.
I remember weeks ago when he vetoed a bill that actually would have required minors to
wear helmets on ski slopes and he said not every social problem needs a law so he's free
to come out and say, no, I don't think this is a good idea."
What about his veto rate? >> First of all he's 70 years old, thinks
his last political office, he can do and act as he cease fit.
That's the freedom that you have at this age when you're not moving on.
>> JOANNE: And not running again? >> Perhaps, and even if you run again it's
for the same office. The veto rate this year was 14.3%, which doesn't
seem extremely high to me, he's not getting rid of a lot of things but at the same time,
there were under 900 bills. Usually we go well over a thousand bills so
he had fewer to veto. Interestingly his predecessor, governor Schwartzenager
vetoed 17%. >> JOANNE: Some of these seem like they are
in control of make their own laws, rather than at the state level.
Where does the government stand on that, local control or not local control?
>> If there is one thing I see coming out of these signatures in the first term there
is a diminishment of home rule, that's the idea of local governments making decisions.
States control local governments, local governments are creatures of the states, so the state
can tell them what to do but there has always been a strong home rule concept in California.
But if you look at what he has done in the last few weeks, the L.A. stadium issue, which
has said we're going to speed up the environmental issues, the circumcision issue, the ability
to reduce local governments to declare bankruptcy, the big box thing takes away from the local
government to deal with those issues. The open carry, that was local, they could
license that or not. The project labor agreements, he has taken
from local government's ability to deal with that, so ink the overall theme is local government
has been diminished by this governor. >> JOANNE: Our producer tells us that the
initiative bill applies to only state initiatives and not local initiatives.
>>> That's why we didn't put it in there. >> JOANNE: Glen sparrow thanks for being here.
>>> Glad to be here. >> DWANE: If someone lent you $250, what would
you do with it? In a moment we will meet a San Diego woman
who used such a loan to build a successful business.
The story from our tech desk as KPBS Evening Edition continues.
>> DWANE: Last week we brought you the story of an organization in San Diego that helps
women set up small businesses with microloans. Tonight KPBS reporter Katie Orr has an example
of a woman who used a loan to become successful in a niche market.
>>> If someone loaned you $250, that would you do with it?
>> My business is called angel baby green products, and the product are made out of
soy fiber and other organic products. >>> She started her own business because she
need clothes for her own son who was allergic to many fabrics, so she decided to make clothes
for her son. >>> Two years ago when I was laid off I ventured
into my business. >>> She connected with the foundation for
women and was able to take business classes, network with other women and receive a microloan
to help her get started. >>> My first loan was $250 and I was able
to buy supplies and some of the materials I need to do start my business and from there
I was able to sell them in the foundation for women hold for us in the events in San
Diego and the money I made from that I reinvested in my business.
>>> Those led her here to the leaping Lotus in Solona beach.
The director of the store says her items have been so successful she is thinking about expanding
her space. >>> Her business is unique because she offers
organic children's clothing which is a hot commodity right now, people come in here all
the time looking for things like that. >>> This has inspired John lunbland with the
cities neighborhood services department. >>> It begins by benefitting the individual
woman and her family but also it it helps to stabilize a community, it also means that
overall the economic level of the community is going to rise.
>>> There have been benefits for Maui in all areas of her life, she feels more confident
and empowered. >>> I want my own store so I can expand because
this is just the beginning. I want a complete line of baby products from
the crib to the nursery. >> DWANE: That was KPBS reporter Katie Orr.
For a link to the foundation for women, visit our web site edition.
>> JOANNE: It's been 100 years since proposition 7 was ratified by California voters allowing
for the ballot initiative process. Since then voters have weighed in on taxes,
prison sentences. Today we look at the pro's and con's and joining
me is Glen Smith professor at California western school law, Glen thanks for being here
>>> My pleasure. >> JOANNE: Tell us how we've tried to use
this, how many times have we gone to the ballot? >> We have gone to the ballot 348 times, to
be exact, I'm prompted by the visual. Certainly that's a percentage only of the
proposals that people have tried to qualify for the ballot
>> JOANNE: Something like 1600 times we have tried to put initiatives on the ballot but
it's a difficult process isn't it? >> Yes, sometimes that indicates that people
have good ideas but in the light of day they don't pan out, sometimes they are good ideas
that should be adopted but because the process has become increasingly expensive and complicated
they can't qualify. >> JOANNE: Let's talk about the propositions
that did pass, prop 13 is a big one, remind us about that.
>>> It started off as a voter tax revolt but the more enduring relevance today is the requirement
that the legislature has to pass budgets by a two thirds votes and taxes.
So you have a huge incentive for a minority to dig in their heels and not corporate until
they get concessions, so it affects the budget dynamics.
>> JOANNE: In 1994 the three strikes law, prop 214 legalizing medical marijuana, that's
a big one now and prop 8 >> That's in litigation right now and these
have generated high profile cases and sometimes about whether they're constitutional but more
often about what they mean so that tells us the system could be clearer about what we're
doing. >> JOANNE: Or does it tell us should we have
this power? Do we know what we're doing, are we making
good decisions with this power? >> I think you could ask the same question
about the legislative process, but I guess I'm practical, whether it's good or bad, if
we could rethink it completely, the Californians like having this process around, so it's not
going anywhere but it does have problems that they would like fixed.
>> JOANNE: Are there reforms on the table right now?
Can we make this better? >> There are a number of reforms, most of
them don't address what I regard as the key issue, which is giving more information to
the voters and giving them a process where knowledgeable experts can bat around the pro's
and con's so by the time they get to the ballot box they are informed and the people they
look to for ques are more informed so we don't have intended consequences and look back on
an initiative and go, wow, what were we thinking? >> JOANNE: Right now we're dominated by the
20 or 30 second sound bite commercials? How do you change that and get people better information?
>> I think what you have to do is borrow from the legislative process, have public hearings
about bills, people come in and talk about the pro's and con's and even before that the
proponent of the bill has to provide a document that's more than 500 words in the ballot pamphlet
that explains their intention, which laws they are trying to change, which ones they
aren't trying to change, and how big of an impact they're trying to have.
>> JOANNE: Have you seen something like that? >> I have a proposal that I've worked on with
students and we're going to have a long, extensive article describing it.
There are a lot of proposals out there and we need to break through the political log
jam that cease any reform on the process as an attack on it.
We can substantively and politically communicate that, we're accepting the process, just trying
to make it better for voters so they can exercise their democratic birth right.
>> JOANNE: Glenn Smith thank you for being here.
>>> My pleasure. >> DWANE: We will recap our stories in just
a moment and we have a follow up to last week's news on a crack down of medical marijuana
dispensaries. This is KPBS Evening Edition.
>> JOANNE: Welcome back to the public square on KPBS Evening Edition.
Tonight a follow up. On Friday I spoke with KPBS Metro reporter
Katie ORR about the medical marijuana crack downs in california.
Many have received notice they must shutdown in less than 45 days, a viewer wrote to us
and he's worried about how patients like him will fair if the stores close.
Elbows this will put him in a bind. I don't wish to engage the services of a street
dealer and I'm not able to grow my own. I have relied upon them to maintain my meds.
Scott, we wondered what would happen to patients like you and we look at the law and there
seems to be an interpretation. So Katie will follow up on this story and
let you know how the crack down will affect patients.
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>> DWANE: SDG&E is look to go raise its rates, today was the first day of four days of public
hearings. Governor brown has signed the dream act to
allow illegal immigrants to apply for public aid after legal students have already applied.
And he has vetoed a bill to halt the stop age of Gregory landfill.
And he has vetoed the bill that would require big box stores to report to neighbors.
You can check us out on our web site. edition
>> JOANNE: Thanks for joining us and we'll leave you with the forecast.
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