Context!!!!!!
Uploaded by NonStampCollector on 22.02.2010
Transcript:
I was reading the bible last night.
Hmmm! That's great.
I read some interesting passages.
Grr, let me guess, you're going to read something that sounds unkind or violent...
(John 13:34) Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
Hmmm!
(Joshua 1:9) Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.
Hmmm!
(Psalm 23:4) Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me;
Hmm!!!
(Matt 7:7) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
Hmmmm!
(Prov 30:5) Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.
Hmmmm!
(1 John 4:7) Let us love one another, for love comes from God.
Hmmm!!
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby
dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Out of context!! That's not what it means!!
You're leaving all the important parts! Don't cherry pick the bible. Come on, you've twisted the meaning of that.
(Lev 24:16) Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him.
What about the historical context? You're leaving out the important parts of that.
Why do you have to take one verse on its own. That's for a different time and a different culture.
I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle,...
[so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)]
Hold on, I know what you're trying to do, but that's not actually God speaking there.
Look. The bible was written by fallible [human beings like you and me who..]
Hold on, hold on. No no, no, it's Yahweh.
From Verse 13 of that chapter Yahweh is speaking in the first person.
Oh, yeah? Well, you must have taken it out of context!!
Come on, look at the surrounding story. Read it with the culture it was written in.
You don't know the context of that. You're just picking and choosing to suit your own agenda.
God is love. (1 John 4:8 New International Version)
Hmmmm!
Right. So you're not concerned about knowing the context of that
No, no, no. That's fine.
Hmmmm!
(Nahum 1:7) The LORD is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him
Hmmmm!
(Joshua 10:39-40) And Joshua took all the cities thereof; and they smote them with the edge of
the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining
[... but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel had commanded.]
There must be a context for that!
You don't know the correct context of that...
Oh, the context? Well, Joshua had been Moses' apprentice, and in fact commanded the first battle after the exodus,
against the Amalekites in Rephadim. Having successfully spied upon Canaan, he was rewarded by god for his faith,
and was given divine assistance in slaughtering city after city in a lengthy invasion of the region known as the
Promised Land. [Securing it by force for Israel, vanquishing a total of 31 kings and their kingdoms, slaughtering
thousands and thousands and thousands of people leaving none alive, man woman or child. Later, he went on to...]
No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's not the correct context.
The context was God's overall plan for humanity! He had to protect the lineage of Jesus!
What, so, omnipotent god couldn't come up with any other way to do it than with iron
age barbarity and piles of dead children?
The correct context is one in which killing children was OK, OK?!! That's the correct context!
You're not a theologian! You can't understand this kind of thing!
Out of context!
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. (Phillipians 4:13)
Hmmmm!
"Now, O Lord GOD, You are God, and Your words are truth, (2 Samuel 7:28)"
Hmmmm.
O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived (Jeremiah 20:7)
Hmm?! What? Ummm- Hang on, hang on! Just go back one again---?
"Now, O Lord GOD, You are God, and Your words are truth (2 Samuel 7:28)"
Right. And the next one?
O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived (Jeremiah 20:7)
Umm. OK - that first one, that's OK,
but the second one about God deceiving someone
that's obviously completly taken out of context!
You're leaving out the important parts of that. You're just picking and choosing to suit your own agenda.
(Deuteronomy 28:53) Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege,
you will eat the fruit of the womb,
the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you
Context! Out of context!
Yes, it certainly is taken out of context.
But in what context is it OK for an infinitely powerful being to threaten puny petrified humans
that they'll be forced to eat their own children?
Well there must be a context in which making a threat like that is the epitome of kindness, generosity and love,
or else Yahweh wouldn't have done it, would he?!
And whatever that context is, you DEFINITELY took that verse OUT OF IT!
Hmmm! Well, how do we know whether or not a passage from the bible has been taken out of context?
Well, obviously if it sounds horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless,
immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous or disgusting
it's been taken out of context.
Otherwise... it's OK.
Well look I have to disagree with you on that. I think that if a scriptural verse sounds horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless,
immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous or disgusting,
then it probably IS horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless,
immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous and disgusting.
What!? That makes NO SENSE AT ALL!
This is Holy SCRIPTURE we're talking about!
Hmmm! Well how about this verse:
But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on
their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted;
22:21 And for them are hooked rods of iron. 22:22 Whenever, in their anguish, they would
go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning.
That's out of context!
No, no, sorry, that one was from the QUR'AN. (Qur'an 22:19-22)
That's a made-up book!! That is obviously an evil book.
God didn't write that book. Evil book! Despicable!
Yeah, I know, right? How about this one, too
when I sharpen my flashing sword and my hand grasps it in judgment, I will take vengeance
on my adversaries and repay those who hate me. I will make my arrows drunk with blood, while my
sword devours flesh: the blood of the slain and the captives, the heads of the enemy leaders.
That is morally repugnant. That book should be banned.
Those people are maniacs How can anyone take that seriously?
No, no, no, no, no. That's Yahweh speaking in the bible. (Deuteronomy 32:41-42)
That's obviously completly taken out of context! Come on, look at the surrounding story.
Read it with the culture it was written in.
What about the bit in the bible where Yahweh sends fire from heaven to burn 102 men to death? (2 Kings 1:10-12)
Out of context!! Don't cherry pick the bible.
Right, and the command to kill non-believing family members? (Deuteronomy 13:6-9)
That's not what it means. C'mon, you've twisted the meaning of that. You're leaving out the important parts of that.
Or the bit where god helps David kill a Philistine whose head he then cuts off and walks around with for a while? (1 Sam 17:57)
That's not what it means. You're leaving out the important parts of that. Don't cherry pick the bible.
The bit where god's holy angel kills 185,000 people in one night? (Isaiah 37:36)
What about the historical context? You're leaving out the important parts of that. Why do you have to take 1 verse on its own.
Children being killed by bears sent by Yahweh? (2 Kings 2:23-4)
Come on, you've twisted the meaning of that. You're just picking and choosing to suit your own agenda.
God giving out rewards for stabbing a foreign woman through the guts with a javelin? (Numbers 25:6-9)
You don't know the context of that. Read it with the culture it was written in. You're just picking and choosing...
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Hmmm! That's great.
I read some interesting passages.
Grr, let me guess, you're going to read something that sounds unkind or violent...
(John 13:34) Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.
Hmmm!
(Joshua 1:9) Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go.
Hmmm!
(Psalm 23:4) Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me;
Hmm!!!
(Matt 7:7) Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
Hmmmm!
(Prov 30:5) Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him.
Hmmmm!
(1 John 4:7) Let us love one another, for love comes from God.
Hmmm!!
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby
dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Out of context!! That's not what it means!!
You're leaving all the important parts! Don't cherry pick the bible. Come on, you've twisted the meaning of that.
(Lev 24:16) Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him.
What about the historical context? You're leaving out the important parts of that.
Why do you have to take one verse on its own. That's for a different time and a different culture.
I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle,...
[so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted. (Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)]
Hold on, I know what you're trying to do, but that's not actually God speaking there.
Look. The bible was written by fallible [human beings like you and me who..]
Hold on, hold on. No no, no, it's Yahweh.
From Verse 13 of that chapter Yahweh is speaking in the first person.
Oh, yeah? Well, you must have taken it out of context!!
Come on, look at the surrounding story. Read it with the culture it was written in.
You don't know the context of that. You're just picking and choosing to suit your own agenda.
God is love. (1 John 4:8 New International Version)
Hmmmm!
Right. So you're not concerned about knowing the context of that
No, no, no. That's fine.
Hmmmm!
(Nahum 1:7) The LORD is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him
Hmmmm!
(Joshua 10:39-40) And Joshua took all the cities thereof; and they smote them with the edge of
the sword, and utterly destroyed all the souls that were therein; he left none remaining
[... but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel had commanded.]
There must be a context for that!
You don't know the correct context of that...
Oh, the context? Well, Joshua had been Moses' apprentice, and in fact commanded the first battle after the exodus,
against the Amalekites in Rephadim. Having successfully spied upon Canaan, he was rewarded by god for his faith,
and was given divine assistance in slaughtering city after city in a lengthy invasion of the region known as the
Promised Land. [Securing it by force for Israel, vanquishing a total of 31 kings and their kingdoms, slaughtering
thousands and thousands and thousands of people leaving none alive, man woman or child. Later, he went on to...]
No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's not the correct context.
The context was God's overall plan for humanity! He had to protect the lineage of Jesus!
What, so, omnipotent god couldn't come up with any other way to do it than with iron
age barbarity and piles of dead children?
The correct context is one in which killing children was OK, OK?!! That's the correct context!
You're not a theologian! You can't understand this kind of thing!
Out of context!
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. (Phillipians 4:13)
Hmmmm!
"Now, O Lord GOD, You are God, and Your words are truth, (2 Samuel 7:28)"
Hmmmm.
O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived (Jeremiah 20:7)
Hmm?! What? Ummm- Hang on, hang on! Just go back one again---?
"Now, O Lord GOD, You are God, and Your words are truth (2 Samuel 7:28)"
Right. And the next one?
O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived (Jeremiah 20:7)
Umm. OK - that first one, that's OK,
but the second one about God deceiving someone
that's obviously completly taken out of context!
You're leaving out the important parts of that. You're just picking and choosing to suit your own agenda.
(Deuteronomy 28:53) Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege,
you will eat the fruit of the womb,
the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you
Context! Out of context!
Yes, it certainly is taken out of context.
But in what context is it OK for an infinitely powerful being to threaten puny petrified humans
that they'll be forced to eat their own children?
Well there must be a context in which making a threat like that is the epitome of kindness, generosity and love,
or else Yahweh wouldn't have done it, would he?!
And whatever that context is, you DEFINITELY took that verse OUT OF IT!
Hmmm! Well, how do we know whether or not a passage from the bible has been taken out of context?
Well, obviously if it sounds horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless,
immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous or disgusting
it's been taken out of context.
Otherwise... it's OK.
Well look I have to disagree with you on that. I think that if a scriptural verse sounds horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless,
immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous or disgusting,
then it probably IS horrendous, brutal, savage, merciless,
immoral, murderous, petty, heartless, unjust, sickening, appalling, barbaric, cruel, unfair, ridiculous and disgusting.
What!? That makes NO SENSE AT ALL!
This is Holy SCRIPTURE we're talking about!
Hmmm! Well how about this verse:
But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on
their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted;
22:21 And for them are hooked rods of iron. 22:22 Whenever, in their anguish, they would
go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning.
That's out of context!
No, no, sorry, that one was from the QUR'AN. (Qur'an 22:19-22)
That's a made-up book!! That is obviously an evil book.
God didn't write that book. Evil book! Despicable!
Yeah, I know, right? How about this one, too
when I sharpen my flashing sword and my hand grasps it in judgment, I will take vengeance
on my adversaries and repay those who hate me. I will make my arrows drunk with blood, while my
sword devours flesh: the blood of the slain and the captives, the heads of the enemy leaders.
That is morally repugnant. That book should be banned.
Those people are maniacs How can anyone take that seriously?
No, no, no, no, no. That's Yahweh speaking in the bible. (Deuteronomy 32:41-42)
That's obviously completly taken out of context! Come on, look at the surrounding story.
Read it with the culture it was written in.
What about the bit in the bible where Yahweh sends fire from heaven to burn 102 men to death? (2 Kings 1:10-12)
Out of context!! Don't cherry pick the bible.
Right, and the command to kill non-believing family members? (Deuteronomy 13:6-9)
That's not what it means. C'mon, you've twisted the meaning of that. You're leaving out the important parts of that.
Or the bit where god helps David kill a Philistine whose head he then cuts off and walks around with for a while? (1 Sam 17:57)
That's not what it means. You're leaving out the important parts of that. Don't cherry pick the bible.
The bit where god's holy angel kills 185,000 people in one night? (Isaiah 37:36)
What about the historical context? You're leaving out the important parts of that. Why do you have to take 1 verse on its own.
Children being killed by bears sent by Yahweh? (2 Kings 2:23-4)
Come on, you've twisted the meaning of that. You're just picking and choosing to suit your own agenda.
God giving out rewards for stabbing a foreign woman through the guts with a javelin? (Numbers 25:6-9)
You don't know the context of that. Read it with the culture it was written in. You're just picking and choosing...
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