The Cities | Rev. Ron Quay, Rabbi Tamar Grimm & Dr. Stephen Klien 9/11 Services | WQPT


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putting nine eleven in perspective
and walking for a good cause in the cities
for some nine eleven seems like yesterday and for others it was so long
ago
we certainly had no idea what the world would be like ten years later after all
december seventh nineteen fifty one was nothing like the date ten years earlier
when pearl harbor was attacked
but here we are
about the mark life changing anniversary
we are filled with reflections of what happened and
some dread of what could still occur
joining me now are some of the people who are actively involved in making sure
we don't forget about nine eleven my guest today
rev. ron quaid executive director of churches united
rabbi tomark graham with the congregation beth israel
and a doctor stephen kline with augustana college all actively involved
in nine eleven preparations for the quad cities
ron let me start with you this has been an event that you've been planning for
quite some time yet we began planning this event almost a year ago now just
after nine eleven of uh...
uh... wish it had been a celebration a remembrance at the uh... moline mosk
uh... of the uh...
muslim community
and coming out of that there was some talk about the tenth anniversary coming
up so it's been being planned for about a year
now i remember just days after the attacks being in le claire park
with a up for program that was done of music and speeches and bringing
together of people was repeated in the second where the first anniversary the
second time i was help is that when something that was that spark that you
just didn't want to let go no i wouldn't say it's that we just want to let go i
think we wanted to recognize that the world has changed and clearly this is
going to have more of a reflective nature then uh... that i believe that i
was not at in the community in or
i was here for the o two
uh... remembrance
this will have the uh... music uh... couple of uh... music groups from two
different churches there will be a speaker coming from a
seminary in california also is a trained lawyer and a um... muslim
and so she'll be talking about her reflections
there will be people reading from various faith traditions
speaking to some of the qualities that nine eleven invites us to think about
so i would say it's more reflective and future-oriented then then the event
itself of what happened ten years ago rabbi grim understand that you agree i
mean i like the idea being future
oriented what type of message do you hope to instill
you know i think that when you first
experience a tragedy that is on morning processing needs to happen ten years
later
we're are
are still remembering and certainly some people are still mourning but there is
the hopefulness there's a thought towards what can we do together how can
we make this world the kind of place we want to live and know its important two point out
that this is an inter faith
uh... uh... ceremonies service why is that important
part of what nine eleven was about
this hatred hatred of the other and what we're trying to promote now is loving
your neighbor
work together
don't promote
distance from each other but how can we actually work together
really interface services coming up on sunday but be is actually kind of the
coleman asian of a number of days with symposium speakers and different events
centered a lot in augustana college of course
and the doctor klein let's talk about that i mean you guys have been
organizing
are real discussion talking point kind of a uh... pivotal moment where people
can can discuss why is talking
so important ten years later
well certainly oncoming uh... at these events of from the standpoint of an
educator actually i began
my work at augustana college in the fall term of of two thousand one so
uh... one of the things that we of noticed um...
when the attacks on an eleven happened was away at the community was able to
come together
and engage in productive dialogue from a variety of different standpoints it was
of tremendous value to our students as well as ourselves
so when we think back about
nine eleven uh...
and we think about the conversations we're going to have this weekend
were thinking about memory but we're also thinking about vision and community
the idea is that if we discussed none of the very simple cations of nine eleven
uh... in the way forward from number of different perspectives it's going to
give us up better insight into how we can make our movement forward that much
more productive and that much more community im just thinking
who you're reaching out to because for possible lived through it is one thing
then you look at the kids if you've got going on the stand right now there
between eight
and eleven years old
when the towers and the pentagon
uh... was attacked as well as the uh... crash in
pennsylvania
hold different world that you're reaching out to there
absolutely of their memories of it by uh... as that has lived experience is
limited but they have uh... some sense of what happened in the gravity of it
but their primary understanding of nine eleven it has come from
the framing of the events in the media
in the framing of the events in their history classes
and so what we want to try to do is to make uh... the events and its
consequences uh... come alive for the students not the sense of
reliving a trauma as much as
uh... understanding in a rich way what happened at the issues the word state so
that they can see the relevance of their lives in two thousand eleven and rabbi
and so many ways when you look at this over the last ten years
the kids they're just going to augustana
or the kids who are now i can about fourth or fifth grade who were born in
two thousand one
all they have known is war
coming after the attacks
that's true with our country has been
at war for most of their lives and i think it's been a war this distant from
them though in many ways it's not the same as for example i think of children
growing up in israel that's my reference point
how close that feels them verses our kids so
they have a knowledgeable war but they also
our distance from it in some way and i think face away that they are protected
is there a bit of its attachments ought to be talking about peace in a time
when it was such a violent
uh... day that were remembering
i don't think so i think that's
smoothly when we should be talking about peace right when
we're remembering we learn from our past we learn from history and but how can we
insurer for the next generation a world in which they will not have to be afraid
all the time in which they can feel secure as they travel
on the plane as they travel in train systems we've seen violence perpetuated
throughout the world this isn't something that's isolated nine eleven
so we really want to work together to create
a peaceful world rev. quaid you you look at uh... what happened in nine
eleven and the hours days weeks immediately following
here at this feeling that americans have fallen for reverses
uh... especially as far as religions are concerned about type of mindset
do you think american did that
i think it was too easy for us to do that because the attackers
were coming from or at least reaching into
new particular religious traditionally the muslim tradition
and uh... most muslim scholars who say they were basically on the fringes
but nonetheless that's though that was the other two are so that i think there
was a great potential for that
we saw some of the controversy about a year ago when um... about building the
mosques to close to
and up
the pastor in florida who wanted to burn the koran if they're just examples of
the fear which is turned into can turn into a hatred of the other i would hope
a m gathering such as this in what augustana is doing would also help us
realize that there's a lot of commonality
in these various world religions we need to hear
from each other engine and the respective where they're coming from
dr. klien thats going to be part of some of the things that will be discussing how
during the symposium
absolutely of the uh... ways that we're going to talk about nine eleven in the
implications are coming from uh... everywhere from
politics and public policy to uh... how we understand uh...
how we treat one another from the standpoint of christian ethics how we're
going to talk about differing of cultural and philosophical world views
uh... there was a moments when nine eleven happened
where the world came together and uh... a lot of folks worldwide aware of the
united states side and of the framing of these events as war but it in of writing
of ways
uh... shifted that dynamic
uh... but we're going to be hearing of from all muslim scholars as well as
uh... scholars in christian perspectives
and um... and and those coming at it from a secular historical perspective no
harm in touching on how the media uh... has has been playing a role
since
uh... nine eleven and in some ways when i look back in those months immediately
after the attacks
it just seems wrong not to be hoover patriotic
and almost at the media fit into that with the flag waving in the making sure
that uh...
uh... that this was very much an attack on america every single american
is that something
that disturbs you at the time we were still does now
well uh... as of media scholar that was a particular point of personal conflict
for me because undeniably of this was an attack
on the american way of life
and uh... so to some extent the the outpouring of emotion and the rallying
behind i'd national patriotism seems perfectly natural that being said of the
nature of these events in an age that is television in an age where our
politics in our cultural discourse is mediated through images in through
sounds um... just about fed into the nature of that so when you've got the
images of the attacks occurring um... over and over again
and that gets fed into the use of the war metaphor that began that very day al
by president bush in his response in the oval office it's almost impossible then
not to
uh... see this play out as in us verses them
uh... dramatic that nation verses by people enemy their cuz you kind of look
at this is one of the three biggest event for t_v_ if you go back
perhaps the moon landing
and then uh... the assassination of uh... john f_ kennedy
there almost three of those
um... mindboggling except for maybe the moon landing almost uh... a gut punch
kind of event
that you almost had the rallied behind as a media source
it almost was the common hearts
well absolutely and so there's a sense in which when you have these kinds of
images
that were absolutely unavoidable
uh... the question then becomes okay so what do you do with those images and
nature does that rally take
and uh... many would argue that uh... thinking about it from the standpoint of
war as opposed to us is thinking about it as the standpoint
uh... principal given extreme crime
uh... transforms of the nature of the experience
and so while he's unavoidable that uh...
that the drama and the horror of the events was going to lead people to rally
uh... the big issue was how does one rally ideas it's uh... a rally of uh...
togetherness and understanding
or is it a rally of we need to find out who's responsible blow them up
and rabbi there was also a rally as far as religions are concerned there were a
number of people may not have gone to a church or synagogue or mosque in the
years
the decided this is the time to renew my faith
how important was
faith during
not only that period of time ten years ago
but perhaps continuing to today
it's always interesting to me when
people feel the need call out to god in times of suffering and we often
forget to call out to god in times of joy and one of the things that i'm really
looking forward to about the commemoration that we're going to do is
where it's also a celebration in some ways of the
major accomplishments in the quad cities of interfaith programming and one of the
things that we're going to be talking about
is how can we
continue and promote ongoing interfaith programming
quad cities
i think that faith is something that
has the potential to really drives together
not just in terms of what
commonalities are there in our faiths but also
i wasn't this interesting how we look at this differently i can appreciate that
in your faith even if it's not my own
maybe i'll have something that i can learn from somebody else faith
her greater looks like you want to jump in on that issue for well i do i mean
only from the standpoint that i think that um... this kind of thing
invites the faith perspective to talk about from the ethical standpoint who is
of the other
uh... in this world and it was so much turned in nine eleven where that became
hate filled
yet as who are are scriptural tradition to judeo-christian
christian tradition and and this is true across the board with with other faces
well is is the other is somebody will reaching out to to understand to learn
from to be connected with him i would hope that this service
um...
perpetuates that that invites us to really realize that part of the core of
our faith
is to reach out to that person who may be other to us it does
ask to be ask ask you
where we go from here
um... because you're gonna be looking back
but you said you do forward
we go from here oh i think one of the things we do is we
try to recognize that the quad cities for instance is becoming more make much
more diverse even in the ten years
sense this event than there been people who've moved in here from other parts of the
world
so we are not uh... an island uh...
we we are part of the larger mix of populations on this globe
uh... there are people from all over the the the uh... the earth who are
we need to find ways to learn from here about
talk to uh... inet not only is faith lines but ethic lines to find ways to
just kind of recognize into begin to talk to each other into here
the differences and the as has rabbi was saying that i may have something
that i can learn
from that other person
so need to be more concrete we are anticipating coming out of this
uh... some other events
uh... inviting people together
trying to form a way for that particularly early interfaith dialogue
to occur in rabbi a lot of people thought that there are times several
times undeniably there were times during nine eleven
that he saw the best of being in america
certainly that i have been lost either hasn't
i think that is what we want to hold onto at this commemoration
what u saw coming out of nine eleven was a real desire
on the part of people to say
okay i'm waking up now to what this world has come to what do i want this
world to be
doctor klein i know you could just after a rabbi reverend they know and it
when there's a teachable moment obviously as a college president you
know listeners teachable moment as well i mean you don't want opportunity like
this to pass by
have slowly not behold rationale behind
uh... the events that were having on friday and saturday
is to bring our students in the college community together with the local
community but to really talked in in productive ways and to try to understand
this very complex set of events implications from a variety of
viewpoints especially as we're moving into uh... a presidential campaign cycle
there's going to be a real in pulse i think too
make the story simple which makes the response a simple and uh... in
the world after nine eleven is too complicated for that so we really need
to think about this from a variety of different perspectives and to be able to
talk about it openly instantly
and what do you want to tell me that goes to one of the symposium event what
do you want that person
to walk away with in the back of their mind
i want them i guess in a nutshell to walk away thinking
i never thought about it that way before uh... there's so many different
viewpoints and so many different lenses through which we can understand uh...
the complexity of nine eleven
and so uh... just hearing different points of view and coming away with it
was something new
is really what we're after ok doctor klein rabbi graham
reverend quay thank you so much for joining us
also thank you for doing this for the community
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thanks so much lora and this is an interesting year in the study of
alzheimer's disease
in april scientist announced a confirmed one gene variant they directly can link
late onset alzheimer's disease this after researcher studies samples from
some fifty six thousand study participants
but as with so many diseases the more we know the more we still need to
understand and alzheimer's is no exception
this weekend the quad cities branch of the alzheimer's association is holding its
annual walked in and alzheimer's and joining me now is jerry
schroeder from the association i think jerry ungraded right now that you've
been doing these uh... walks for quite some time
there is a great fundraiser but you know why i always think it's great about
these walks
is it's a coming together of people
the commonality absolutely right the family members and ah...
professional caregivers and anybody who is who's got some
vested interest in helping us try to find a cure
for this terrible disease this is such an insidious disease not that there is
one that is unless incidents but
alzheimer's disease we seem to be learning
more and more about it each passing year
there's a lot of genetic research being done in genetic biomarkers are being
identified including the one you just mentioned
and what that will ultimately do
itll is that it will make it possible for up people to go to a doctor
to have either a blood test or spinal tap fluid sent off to a lab and the lab
results will indicate whether or not that person is predisposed
because of the genetic biomarkers in their body
that that the challenge of course is they're really to challenges of that one
is that
everybody who has alzheimer's has the genetic biomarkers
but not everybody who has a genetic
biomarkers gets alzheimer's
so there's still some mystery here number one and number two
just because we can identify the presence of this corruption in the body
doesn't mean we can do anything to stop it get and there's a real challenge what
is that some fifty six thousand people participated
but speaks volumes for those people as well
i mean the and people are anybody who any family that's faced with his illness
isn't is going to reach out for anyway
anything that
possible to try to stop it
it's uh... in uh... you know my
there are a don't know anybody who doesn't understand
the devastating progression of this disease people know what's in store for
them september is world alzheimer's monthly noted that
from one end of the planet for the other day
what do you want people to remember about alzheimer's it i mean some people
say well it's just another form of dementia
i want people to remember that the only way will ever defeat this disease is for
us to rise up this community's small local communities
and invest our time our energy at our resources into helping us find a cure
suggesting that we're living in
politically uh... speaking in economic times were living in there's a lot of
debate about whether the federal government should take on
more of responsibility for social causes and so forth
we're economically i'm not in a position to be able to do everything we would
like to do
so b
uh... we we discussed very clear that the federal government were hoping will
and commit more resources to finding a cure for alzheimer's but it's also
equally important that people who are directly impacted
will recognize a sense of obligation and privilege and responsibility
to help us defeat this disease is the only way it'll ever be defeated when it
really leads me to the next area
i was interested in that he is house somebody
who you can relate to
announces that they
have disease and you think of ronald reagan
president and his incredible letter to the american people announcing he had
alzheimer's disease
you must've gotten a great deal of response from that and now we're looking
at uh... uh... famous singer glen campbell releasing his album everyone
always says there and says what amazing dignity they're showing so early on
well the great gift that people like ronald reagan glen campbell can we give to the
rest of this is that that is the
is by making the issue publicly visible
and i think you know if it's not that it's more tragic that ronald reagan
or glen campbell got alzheimer's that it is for the man who lives next door to
me it's a tragedy for anybody who gets the disease but what's necessary for us
to find a cure is for people who were already publicly visible to stand up
courageously and say i have the disease
and that can happen to anybody it can happen to you
so this more together for the cure visit some home upsetting to you that i would
just say it
that is such a dignified thing to do in somehow insinuating that you become less
dignified
as the disease progresses
no i no not at all
you know what i yes i mean well it's a difficult thing because as
the disease progresses people
lose more and more of a cognitive abilities
the ability to think to reason and into remember all those things that our
brains do for us
become impaired
however
the human being is a wonderful we are wonderful creatures we heard you know
uh...
and we are far more than just our bodies and is and i think this a but in my line
of work i a often tell people that the brain is really in overrated oregon
i mean it's not everything there is to us
the people who are who have alzheimer's is still able to give and receive
affection
demand that remember five minutes from now that the person who just embrace
them
was the person they've been married to for fifty four years
but they'll remember that what it felt like to be embraced in that moment and
so we're always trying to get people to recognize that
there's a lot of good things that can happen to and for with people who
have alzheimer's even though their brains are impaired and then i'm sure
it's the people if you worry about day after day of the caregivers
absolutely right
it's a family disease is a cultural disease
uh... in if if the caregivers are doing their jobs well therefore all the
services service providers do well
right what happens is the person with the person with the illness being sort of happy
and and sort of flows through life
where and the caregivers a really bearing
the the the brunt of of that sorrow and pain there all but much more aware of
how tragic it is what's nice is that perhaps for cutting through some of the
fear of alzheimer's right now not only with the walk
but your day-to-day activities break the stigma is being reduced people are
much more likely today the just say openly i have alzheimer's
and uh...
this is a paradox i mean i i wanted him one says it's unfortunate that anybody
ever has to say that but on the other hand it's the only way
whatever again for the cure for it
jerry join us with a preview appreciating if you are
interested in getting involved in the walk
or even in the entire organization there is both a two-mile four-mile walk
that does take place outside the i wireless center in moline is just one of
the hundreds of walks taking place across the nation this fall and you can
support the alzheimer's association throughout the year find information on
ways you can help by going to the alzheimer's association website at alz
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