Airline Flights Diverted, Security Threats, Pounding on Cockpit Door

Uploaded by MidweekPolitics on 13.05.2011

Announcer: The David Pakman Show at
David Pakman: Welcome to the show, David Pakman here. A lot to talk about. Later on we'll
talk to Dave Zirin. Louis, there's a plethora of anti-gay sports stuff going on, it just
seems the Kobe Bryant incident has unleashed a fury of anti-gay sports stuff, so we'll
talk to Dave Zirin. Also talk to David Morey. And Louis is looking over my shoulder like
there's just really strange stuff happening on the screen. I don't even...
Louis Motamedi: You don't even want to know. OK, never mind.
David: I don't even want to look.
Louis: We're good now.
David: Is it worse than the Michael Jackson ghost picture that popped up once?
Louis: Way worse. Way worse. It was a thousand times worse.
David: So I've got a bunch of flights coming up, and you kind of do, too, Louis, and all
of the airline news recently is not making me too thrilled about having to fly. Number
one, we have the bin Laden stuff, which some people say is just going to create a lot more
tense situations at airports.
Louis: Paranoia.
David: Paranoia, for sure. And listen to some of these stories. First of all, there was
a Delta flight that was diverted over New Mexico due to a security threat. And an airport
spokesman just said that the plane was going to Detroit to San Diego, it was diverted to
Albuquerque, and then it was cleared for takeoff after a potential security threat. Everybody
on-board, over 100 people, were interviewed, and passengers were allowed to continue on.
Sounds like there was somebody on-board with a beard probably, right? I mean, that, in
many cases, as we saw with a couple of pilots, that'll scare people.
Louis: We don't have any follow-up on this, any...
David: I've not seen anything about exactly what happened. And an FBI spokesman also declined
to add any more information. I wonder what it was. You would think by now we would've
heard from one of the 107 passengers that was on-board.
Louis: Right. Very strange.
David: And then we had an individual on an American Airlines flight into San Francisco,
minutes before the plane landed, he went up to the cockpit door and started pounding on
it. And I guess pretty quickly a male flight attendant tackled the guy. He was 28-year-old
Rageit Almurisi, and he had a Yemeni passport, living in California. He started yelling,
he brushed past flight attendants, he started banging on the door. This was American flight
1561. And I guess the guy was also assisted... the flight attendant was also assisted by
some passengers, and they were able to get the guy into plastic handcuffs. He was charged
with interfering with flight crew.
You know, I always wonder, if I was... I think about it, I don't know, I wouldn't say often,
but I do think what would I do if I was on one of those flights where I start seeing
someone charge the cockpit door and I'm right there, aisle seat? Would I get up and try
to tackle the guy, or would I be frozen by the confusion, you know? What would you do,
do you think? I mean, you...
Louis: Well, I mean, you have to see if the guy's running to the bathroom first.
David: That's the thing, where you...
Louis: You can't just, you know, always be completely paranoid, jump to conclusions,
and then punch some innocent guy in the face.
David: I assume in the moment, I would wait long enough to be sure that the guy was doing
something wrong before doing anything, and by then it might be too late, depending on
what it is.
Louis: Well, I mean... well, they keep the cockpit locked, so...
David: Or other-- or another situation, you see a guy take something out of his bag and
it looks like it's some kind of explosive and he starts, you know, a firecracker, like
the Underwear Bomber or whatever. How -- would I act quickly? I would like to think that
I would.
Louis: Yeah, but how... I mean, you never really know how your brain will process something...
David: Exactly.
Louis: So, yeah, I guess you can't really say until it happens.
David: There was another story, a 34-year-old man from Illinois tried to open a plane door
on a Continental flight during the flight.
Louis: Right, I heard about this.
David: And investigators questioned him but didn't file any charges, but what would he
try... why... what would encourage him to try to open a door in mid-flight? I don't
Louis: You have to assume he was trying to bring down the plane.
David: Well, if that was the case, then you would think there would be more than just
a questioning. It sounds more like it could've been some kind of confusion or a mental illness
type of situation. I don't know.
Louis: That seems to be the only other... only other answer.
David: I actually lately have been thinking more about security on trains. Not that I
don't... you've heard my rants.
Louis: Yeah, because there is none.
David: Because there is none. I've been using trains more lately to travel around, and I'm
just amazed how I just go up, don't even show ID, just buy a ticket and then run onto the
train. Usually I have about 15 seconds to spare, I'm usually right... almost late every
single time, but putting that aside, there's just no security. And we've seen some of the...
Louis: And how can you... how can you possibly secure the entire railway, right?
David: That's a given.
Louis: Yeah.
David: That... forget that. But I'm just talking about people on the train. But you're right.
Louis: Well, it's one and the same. If someone decides to go to some remote region where
there happens to be a railway, blow up a piece of the track, oh, that train's going to derail.
David: Right. Yeah. I actually just finished reading Agatha Christie's "Murder on the Orient
Express". That probably got me thinking more about trains, too. Not actually fearing murders
on the train, but just in general about the total lack of security.
Louis: Right. Yeah. Not so much a whodunit thing.
David: Right.
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