Filmmakers@Google Presents Tom Shadyac "I AM"

Uploaded by AtGoogleTalks on 01.02.2012

>>Male Presenter: Good afternoon everyone, again, thank you very much for attending this
screening of "I AM." I will actually cut right to the chase. Today with us we have the director
of the film, Tom Shadyac, who really is an ordinary guy who has led a really exciting
and interesting journey in life. So, from his early days of directing films to some
life changing experiences that he under, underwent, he now created the film that you now see.
So we're very pleased to have him join us today and he will answer any questions that
you may have and without further ado, here's Tom.
>>Tom Shadyac: Thank you my brother, Cliff. Could we have a hand for Cliff?
[Applause] >>Tom Shadyac: I call Cliff, now, Saint Peter
because he just toured me around heaven. [Laughter]
>>Tom Shadyac: Uh, it's a little overwhelming to come here and see so many incredible things.
So much creative energy, so much, it's a look into how things can be, it's a look into how
things can be and I'd love to talk today about why things aren't that way. Why is it that
we come to Google and wow, I can't walk thirty feet without finding a carb? There's a kitchen
with carbohydrates, there's fruit here and I have to pee, oh it's right here. I can't
move without all the necessities of life taken care of. Oh, and there's dogs and babies,
it's phenomenal, right? You're well fed, you're well taken care of, you have insurance, you
don't have to worry about medical, why doesn't the world work this way? So, I'd love to talk
about that cause I sense such an incredible spirit here. That that's what you're about
is somehow opening up this world; somehow our collective energy has created you, created
this amazing place not just as an example, but as a source and a starting point for what
can be. I don't think you're here by accident so talk to me. What do ya got? By the way,
Yahoo was filled with questions, that's all I'm gonna say.
>>male #1: How's it going [inaudible] today?
>>Tom Shadyac: Thank you, brother.
>>male #1: I guess my question is
>>Tom Shadyac: What is your name?
>>male #1: My name's Jeff.
>>Tom Shadyac: Hello, Jeff.
>>male #1: Nice to meet you.
>>Tom Shadyac: Good to meet you. What do you do here, Jeff? What do you do? They have people
that do everything. That person makes sure the grass is parallel. Okay, good, the grass
is parallel, very nice. [Laughter]
>>Tom Shadyac: What do you do?
>>male #1: You know, I try to get user feedback on the products. So if you have any feedback
on Google products, now's the time.
>>Tom Shadyac: Yeah, I am such a lame and my feedback is awesome.
>>Tom Shadyac: So I use you every day. It's actually an amazing writing tool. As a writer
we used to clear our minds by going to picture books or, do you guys have ever heard this
word, encyclopedia? Okay, we would go to books to get other ideas to free our minds now we
just go on Google and you just, you get filled with info that can turn your creative thought
somewhere, so.
>>male #1: Cool, I think, I mean, we all love working here, we love Google. But my question
is, really, I think companies like Google are great and they're rare, but I think they
come about because of this entrepreneurial spirit. So how do you kind of, how can you
get that spirit and keep those, keep kind of the innovation alive? At the same time
have companies focus on the community? It seems like there's kind of two things at odds
and I wonder how we can kind of get both.
>>Tom Shadyac: Yeah, I find that that is a cultural, part of the cultural malaise, if
you will, Jeff, that these things are at odds. So how do we create the entrepreneurial spirit
and still have a focus on the community? Anybody have a thought? Okay, so, let's ask ourselves
why those things are mutually exclusive? What is it that you value most in your life? Our
culture teaches us that money is the motivator, right? If you don't have the incentive of
money you won't start anything, right? So that calls into question some people that
were really inspirational to me. Buddha, for example, walked away from his money, created
something beautiful, as Meng, one of your spiritual counselors here knows, created mindfulness,
created awareness, created peace. His motivation was to create, to spread love, ideas, truth.
Jesus, Gandhi , so we have all these moral leaders who are not motivated by money and
they, we all know, are the most powerful figures in our lives. Then we look at institutions.
My family runs St. Jude Children's Research Hospital; they help found it with Danny Thomas,
not a thought about money, not a thought, but the entrepreneurial spirit alive. 90 percent
of the kids, when this hospital started, died when they were diagnosed with cancer, 90 percent
mortality rate. Darn near 90 percent if I'm, plus or minus one or two percent. Now it's
completely inverted. It's near 90 percent kids live and there wasn't a thought about
how much money can we make, it's how can we serve? Because those things you go to your
graves and your death beds with are going to be, not how much money did I make, it's
gonna be how much did I serve that I give back? How creative was I? How was I able to
spread and add a value? And yet we have this poison in our culture that says without that
money, without that money it all goes away. It's a lie. And we know it through our experience
it's a lie but we don't quite recognize it and walk it. That's why we go to church every
Sunday to be reminded, hey it's all about love but Monday we close that door, as my
father said, and we become about something else. This is the poison, it's compartmentalization,
it's separation. Emerson said, "You must, integrity means to unify your life so that
any drawer I open you'll see exactly who a person is." So what we need to see in the
future is when we open our business drawers I just see love and compassion and creativity.
That's what I see. Just the way you spread information here, we need to spread love.
What I really think Google is about is love. That's all I get when I get around here, people
love what they do, the love of food, the love of health, the love of community, the love
of family, the love of information freely accessible to the world. How beautiful? And
there may be another drawer we can open where love can spread. And that's up to you. I'm
gonna throw out something very radical, insanely radical. And there may be a laser beam that
kills me for saying it. But I'm simply going to quote a poet that challenges all of us,
his name is Wendell Berry, some of you may know him he's one of the most well regarded
poets, "Intellectual property names the deed in which the mind is bought and sold and the
world enslaved." Cliff and I were talking about that, "Intellectual property names the
deed by which the mind is bought and sold and the world enslaved." Hey, that's my idea.
Ace Ventura is my idea, give it to me. That was my idea. And yet I know there's no such
thing as my idea. I rest on the backs of all the creativity before me. I'm inspired, meaning
I am in spirit, and somehow an idea comes to you and to claim ownership of these things
is the poison. To say, "Wow, I am serving this idea and I offer it to the world" is
beautiful and that's the turn, I think, the human species, I think we're starting to make
here. So much you offer to the world freely. Where's the laser beam?
[pause] >>male #2: I believe, for a couple of years,
that there is actually nothing wrong with the world. And everything that is happening
is supposed to happen. We live perfectly in balance. Now I understand that had I, you
know, had I been fighting in Africa all my life, my beliefs might have been different
but, you know, not having to struggle for food every day, kind of gives me a different
set. I might be wrong, but this is what I believe correctly. My question is, if we are
so connected to the animal and the insects and if we are a part of nature then why are
we so different? And if we do embrace the philosophy that we should only take what we
need and not go out and invent things for the reason of money, how are we going to acknowledge
that what's happening to us is not, in fact, evolution and it's not, in fact, a, you know,
for the reason of the greater and the longest survival of the human species and the life
on the planet, for not just, you know, reasons I mean, not defending only against things
that are happening, like hunger and disease but bigger calamities that could happen to
this planet, how are we not to say that we're not here to protect the planet by inventing
things against bigger planetary things like meteoroids or
>>Tom Shadyac: Yeah, let me ask you a question was there, by the way I'm supposed to repeat
this for the internet, the question was, what's the meaning of life
[Laughter] >>Tom Shadyac: It was a big question cause
you said a lot of things that are profound that I can and may respond to but may not
get to. You said things like you believe that world is just as it ought to be, right? And
you're coming from a place being well fed; you might feel differently if you were not
well fed. That's a huge thing we could talk about. But now you're saying are we not to
use, potentially, our technologies that is maybe a protector of the planet? And is there
something in this film that told you that we ought to not do that? That we ought to
not be creative, that we ought to not expand in terms of, I love the colors of these seats,
I love the color of the human fabric, I love that each of you is a different experiential
model that adds another piece to the mosaic. Who wants a monochromatic world? I don't think
that whatever created us wants a monochromatic world because he made so many different creative
people, right? So, I don't think this film is about that. I think this film is about
what happens when you create? What do you do with that creativity? What is that? Do
we claim ownership of it? Do we share it freely with all that we are? So that love, the most
important thing to all us, love, love, love can be spread and community can be spread.
And goodness and the Google campus can be spread. What do we do when we create? I could
have easily done everything, I stand by every film I've made, as imperfect as they are,
they had ideas and energy I wanted to put into the world. I still stand by that. But
I didn't have to stand on top and say, "Pay me more, I'm worth more." I, as an artist,
can serve freely, take what I need and serve. The greatest story I will ever tell, the most
powerful story I will ever tell is the one I will tell of my life. Not the one you'll
see up there. So what story am I telling with my own life? That's the question that I have.
[Inaudible] did this in any way address one of your
>>male #2: Um, yeah, I mean, while watching the movie it did challenge a few of my beliefs
like I always questioned why is war wrong? You know, why does everyone say that war should
not happen and, yet, war is happening at all times. Bacteria, we're fighting with bacteria
and viruses at all times, in fact, there are hand sanitizers which we are using to kill
bacteria at all times. It's happening at every single level but only
>>Tom Shadyac: Can I just, uh, I don't mean to jump in but I wanna, cause they can't actually
hear you so are you getting him at all? I have to repeat what you say so I kind of have
to remember. Anyway, about the wars that are going on with bacteria, so that's actually
not true. I mean, it's true, the human species, for example, there are less wars. We are evolving
into a less violent species. If you read Jeremy Rifkin's "Empathic Civilization" there is
this moral progression, Rumi talks about it in his poetry. But the history of biology
is not that. Yes, there are, there are, quote, wars and aggression going on all the time
but the history of biology is this, read Elisabet Sahtouris, Elisabet Sahtouris is an evolutionary
biologist, she said let's look at life cause life has had 4 billion years, 13 billion if
you wanna go back to the beginning of the universe, 4 billion years to show us its mandates
and dictates. And what you found was this pattern, single cell life is the first life
to emerge, very, as you said, war like, angry, aggressive, anger that's actually a human
term, but aggressive, right? It realizes this isn't working through whatever communication
it has, it begins talking amongst itself, single cells, and they start cooperating,
they get creative. They create nucleated cells, nucleated cells are young, they do the same
thing, feisty, aggressive, competitive for nutrients, etcetera. Nucleated cells begin
communicating with each other, get creative and then create multi cell creatures which
is us. We are now young, we are 175 thousand year old species based on 4 billion years.
Incredibly young we are now through places like Google, talking to each other and realizing
hey this doesn't work. We can behave this way but does it help us thrive? Which way
must we tend as a society? And that's why instantly when a war happens nobody goes,
"Great! More war!" They go, "How does this end? How does this end? How does my child
come home safe? How does this end? Why are we in another war?" Because we are hardwired,
we are hardwired to thrive in cooperation. So, it's how we tend, everything you say does
exist but it is more than exception than the rule because life would not go if it was just
one big battle. You know, the simplest example is the lion. It can eat every gazelle, it
can take all the gazelles, it can take them down. It eats one it's full and everything
can live in peace around it, it's gotten what it needed.
>>Presenter: Alright, so we have one question here.
>>male #3: Better. Thanks for coming to visit us, I'm David. Much of what you had to say
in your documentary resonated with me that we should, that we're social creatures, we
should, we should have community and be connected with one another and love each other and that'll
give us a greater sense of presence and happiness. So that all, like I said, resonates with me,
towards the end of the movie you were talking about, also the part about how the endless
treadmill of wealth accumulation can distract us from enjoying what it is that we should
enjoy about life, towards the end you seem to be contending that if we redistribute the
wealth that we're accumulating to the homeless that that'll solve the problem. And it's probably
putting too much on you to try and solve a problem that's never been solved in thousands
of years but I'm not persuaded that the whole root of the issue with the homeless is that
we're not redistributing enough resources to them. I feel like resources are available
and caring people are available and yet the problem persists. Is there more to it that
I've missed? Do you have any more prescriptions for how we can fix that problem?
>>Tom Shadyac: Let me get to the meaning of life before I end homelessness.
[Laughter] >>Tom Shadyac: So, just to be clear, can you
give him the mic back, your name again was?
>>male #3: David.
>>Tom Shadyac: David. David, you did not see what, you did not see what exactly about homelessness
that I was not, I was too simplistic in my approach to ending homelessness? Yeah. I think
it's really simple. I just think it's incredibly simple. I think it's incredibly simple. It's
not simple that there issues, the alcoholism excreta which is from a culture that I believe
is mentally ill. I wasn't kidding when I called myself mentally ill. A mentally ill person
does not operate in reality, does not see things as they are. So I don't believe I was
seeing things as they are when I took so much, much more than I needed. So I find the solution
to, you know, the law of the province can be summed up in two ways. One will be a sort
of religious sounding thing, love God or whatever that source is, whatever the gift is of life
and the other is love each other. And, so, it's really simple but the manifestation of
that might be challenging. But if we made a decision today would it not end? If we as
a society made a decision, there is not homelessness in native culture, it doesn't exist because
the tribe, even the crazy guy in the tribe, is kind of enjoyed and laughed at but he's
a part of the tribe, he's fed, he's given a hut. It didn't exist in native cultures.
Inflation doesn't exist in native cultures. Price increases don't exist in native cultures.
It's a mentally that allows me to ignore there's someone I'm related to within 2000 generations
we know that we all come from the same tribe in Africa, Sub-Saharan Africa, someone I'm
actually related to has somehow fallen on hard times, didn't, the number one reason
for homelessness, I have a homeless shelter in Charlottesville Virginia that's why I know
about these things, and the number one reason why people are homeless is because they don't
have the support system that you may have. So they don't have a parent to turn to and
go, "Jeez, I had a bad year. I couldn't get a job out of school or I made a mistake or
I have an addiction problem" and they get stuck. They're out. So I see these things
as intensely simple and then the fun starts. Once we agree to take care of each other.
>>male #4: Hi, I'm Mark. Thank you for sharing your movie with us. I understand why you made
your point is if people understood how everything is connected and we are connected then they
would work with one another better and care for one another. I've seen, so you've shown
a few examples like the yogurt and so forth, and I think I've seen a few in a movie called
"What the bleep do you know?" do we know, like 10 years ago, I'm sure you've heard of
it or have seen it. And at the same time I watch a lot of science shows, I learned a
lot about science and very few such examples are given. At least I don't hear or see of
>>Tom Shadyac: Examples of what given?
>>male #4: Oh, of everything being connected and my belief, especially after seeing this
is if there were more and we'd hear about more that people would be more willing to
believe and act on that and realize that yes, everything they do does impact other people.
Um, do you know why there aren't more and is it difficult
>>Tom Shadyac: Yes, well, there are. They're everywhere. You can't look at something and
not say there's connection. But when you're raised in a culture that says that's not true
that you separate. The basic ideology that you heard in this film is the ideology that
you've been taught in this culture. That you are separate and yet science, we know, if
you look there's no ending of me and beginning of you. Everything is intermixed. We all agree
that there's such a thing called the butterfly effect. We all look at the movie "Back to
the Future" and go, "yeah, that's true. Michael J. Fox goes back in time, he does one thing
different, he's nice to someone or mean to someone, 20 years later everything is different
in the future." We already know this, right? But we don't want you to see it cause with
that comes an incredible exigency. The exigency of love is intense. Much more so than the
law of separation, just take care of yourself, after you take care of yourself, this is the
poison, take care of yourself, get yourself set up then you can reach out to the world.
There's a mystic named Irwin Kula who says something very cool, "Everything is God in
drag" right? "Everything is God in drag." Another divine, beautiful walking manifestation,
another, another, that, there's stuff going on inside of that that is insane. That same
stuff that's going on, rotating, spinning, that same spinning goes on in the Sufi Mystic.
It's all connected and when we get that we'll understand and we'll behave differently. Desmond
Tutu said something to me and I'm writing a chapter of it in the book, I've got a book
deal with a group, not easy writing a book, Desmond Tutu talked about, when you talk about
something, he's a religious person but he doesn't speak about it in a religious way.
I said, "Desmond, what's wrong? What's wrong with the world?" He said, "Tom" and he uses
the word God, "God gives us instructions on the box of human being and we are not operating
according to the instructions on the box." And those instructions are the same instructions
that you see in nature. Connected, that's why Emerson wrote the essay "Compensation."
Everything is a compensation. That's why there's a full tide here, you know the saying, that
was the saying I wanted to remember, Harold. A tide rises, a tide rises all boats, no it
doesn't. What about the tide across the sea? Those boats are receding, right? There is
always ebb and flow, everything, we take from here something gets richer, something gets
less, we invent the car, we lose the use of our feet. The only thing with no compensation
is love. Only love multiplies, Emerson says, I agree because love is how things work. It's
the operating manual that Desmond Tutu was talking about. And until we get that, now
we already know that you know it deep in your DNA cause every time you share something at
Google, we were talking about China and how you want that to be more open and the dialogue
there and the information to be more open, that's love and you know it. So you applaud
when your leaders, Larry and Sergey come and say, "We wanna be more open" and you feel
it cause it's so deeply in you. Your operating manual is in you.
>>male #4: Hi, I'm Johnny. Um, no, so, you talk about Google here and where everything
is, there's lack of scarcity and we're kind of in a bubble of the world and you, likewise,
in Hollywood where it's kind of in the bubble and I would even argue that the US, the worst
situation in the US is far better than a lot of other situations outside the country. Now,
with the amount, the lack of scarcity in all the environments, right, how do you differentiate
between that and people that are actually struggling to survive and basically pushing
the message of collaboration when there's just not enough to go around in that society
or in that group?
>>Tom Shadyac: Be a little bit more clear about your question cause I'm not quite clear
on what you wanna address.
>>male #4: No, I think that what I'm saying is at Google it's very easy to say we should
all collaborate. There's no competition in terms of food, we walk a hundred feet there's
food. We walk, you know, ten feet and there's something else. And likewise, in the US, we,
you know, there's grocery stores and there's availability of
>>Tom Shadyac: So we have a relative abundance here in the US and
>>male #4: And how do you
>>Tom Shadyac: What do you mean by differentiate?
>>male #4: Well how do you push the message of collaboration to people that don't have
the abundance of
>>Tom Shadyac: The same way you push every message which is to be the thing that you
wish to see in the world. That's the whole simple message that Gandhi preached. It's
what I hope, I, I, impart here, be it. I just heard Warren Buffet did a great thing cause
I've spoken of it as a bit of an insane thing. Warren Buffet stood on, in the press recently
and said, "I have all this extra resources, I wanna help. Why doesn't the government tax
me more?" And I thought that's insane. Why don't you just help? Why are you waiting for
the government to tell you to be good? Be good. As Aristotle said, "Follow the action
of good and happiness is the right outcome." So be good. I heard he just did that, I gotta
find out if it's true. I think I'll Google it.
[Laughter] >>Tom Shadyac: But I heard he just did that
which is wonderful. That's extraordinary. He felt that he had something to share, he
didn't wait for somebody to make him share it and he shared it. So he is becoming the
message he wishes to see in the world. So if you want a more collaborative world, a
more equitable world, that's why I want to disassemble, I am a very imperfect work in
progress, I believe the principles that animate me are perfect. I hope that I am in touch
with the principles that have animated others. I hope that they animate me. That's my hope.
But, so, you can look at my life and see imperfection but I am whittling away my resources because
I wanna be more equitable. I wanna be more equitable so I must be more equitable in my
dealings. Yes? I'm sorry, someone else has the mic, we'll go to the back.
>>male #5: Hi, I'm Joe. So, in my limited experience when you're trying to change people's
perspectives and aware, increase awareness there's really nothing that can substitute
direct experience. Like, if you, if they experience that tragedy themselves and that's your story
as well. Do you ever look, like take a step back and be like why did it take me to have
so much taken away to finally be aware of what, something is wrong? And did you take
that approach when you started filming and kind of understand that? For many of us that
don't experience such tragedies to kind of put that, put life into perspective it's,
you can only tell someone so much before they actually go through it and then they realize,
like, it's true.
>>Tom Shadyac: Let me be clear about something. The accident and facing my own death did not
in any way shift my life in terms of my view on resources and the generosity I wanted or
didn't want to inhabit me. I had been on that path for years. After I did 'Liar, Liar' in
1995 or 6, I sat down with a dear friend and said, "This doesn't feel right." That's when
the money started coming and I said, "There's something not good about this. It doesn't
feel right. I feel like it should flow back." "No, no, no, keep it. Keep it." And I bought
into it. But I began to shift very early. What the concussion did and facing my own
death did was give me the courage to talk about it. So for ten years, I was already
in the mobile home park which is a beautiful place, the message is not, for me, necessarily
austerity for austerity sake but a reasonable life. What's enough for you? I love to surf,
I'm near the beach. I love the mountains, they're right behind me. I want everyone to
have what they love and are passionate about. I think that's how we beam. So, yes, you're
right when we experience something personally, of course, we are more compelled and propelled
into action. However, we do have a connective relationship with others and we do look to
others to say, "Hey, what do you know? What do you know?" So others and through their
energy offer their experience and their stories and that can shift us as well. We don't all
have to have a concussion and a near death experience.
>>Presenter: We have a functioning mic now.
>>male #6: My name is Mario. Thank you for coming. In [inaudible] I remember I grew up
in Mexico and I grew up in a Protestant family and never really got it but one day I prayed,
I say, "God, I have hard heart, why don't you give me a way that I can hear?" and somehow
I went to the bathroom and I thought, Oh, I think that must have arrived like coming
to Google and hear you just kind of predisposed me to really hear and make a change. But,
so I just wanted to share that testimony and the question is I wondered if because of [inaudible]
>>Tom Shadyac: I'm sorry you're going out there. Because of? We need to get some tech
people down here.
>>male #6: Somehow I'm not happy because I'm not loving enough and maybe it's because of
achievement [inaudible] that I'm not loving enough, that I'm not doing enough so the message
I took from [inaudible] it only takes what it needs, so I got that part, but when it
comes to give I wonder whether, what's your view on this, should we just give until we've,
like, I don't know how much I need to give and under which criteria and I somehow feel
I need to give a lot in order to be happy or I need to sacrifice myself, you know? I
don't know [inaudible] amount of giving. And I wonder [inaudible]
>>Tom Shadyac: My comment on that is first, thank you, brother. You've already given to
me with your journey and your beautiful spirit that seeks to be of service. My view on giving
is that you follow the beauty. And that, is this still on? Yeah, and that, I heard you,
you were raise Protestant? Is that what you said? I was raised Catholic and there's a
Catholic mentality that I'm always working to rid myself, to shed, and that is the feeling
of guilt. I don't think were to feel this feeling and that I should, the nuns say don't
should on yourself, right? So if you should on yourself you create energy, "Oh I should
have been better, I should have been more loving. I should have been more generous."
That creates and energy attention of lack that can actually prevent you from being more
loving. Just follow your heart. So, just give a little. Wow, that felt great. I gave a bike
to a kid once and that felt fantastic. One of my crew members, and then I did a crazy
thing, I said, cause she couldn't afford a bike and I said, "Well, I wonder if any of
my other crew members would like a bike?" and by the way if I give money, it's so not
about money, if you give in a moment you give in a moment of grace, so it's not about money.
I have money to give. So I asked my other crew members, "Who else would like a bike?"
I thought maybe 20 would pipe up. 400 crew members out of 400 crew members said, "Me!"
[Laughter] >>Tom Shadyac: So I gave away 400 bikes and
the feeling was beautiful because I saw people on the weekends enjoying nature getting out
into the beautiful countryside. We're from L.A., we were in Virginia at the time, I saw
this elevation and I felt so blessed to be a part of it. So now I give my class bikes.
I teach a class at Pepperdine and I give them a bike not to be Oprah. It's not like, "Today's
a refrigerator! We're going to Australia!" [Laughter]
>>Tom Shadyac: "Oh my God!" No, I give them a bike because I want to remind that what
you already know so well as to remain child-like even though the world is saying get serious
with your life, if you do not remain child-like as some of the mystic have said, "You shall
not enter the kingdom of heaven." So I followed that joy and now I give bikes, we give them
to inner city kids. I once freed a slave, what? Freed a slave, there's 27 million slaves
in the world today. What? We ended slavery in 1865, aha, we didn't because we didn't
end the mentality that creates slavery. Which is the commoditization of everything, that
intellectual property that I talked about, this is what creates slavery. Hey, if I can
commoditize the human body which is a little operation from the best guy should cost a
hundred thousand, from a not so good guy ten thousand, commoditization, why not commoditize
the whole human body? It's the same mentality gone askew but it comes from the same mentality.
Does that make sense to you? So give and then follow the beauty. So, anyway, I freed a slave
and I wanted to say that now I've freed others with Harold and our foundation we've been
able to free a village, I believe it was in, the village was in Southern India and we've,
I don't know, we've freed a couple hundred people. There's a program that goes in and
they pull them out of slavery and trafficking and they reeducate them, they reintroduce
them to their families and there are people walking free and it's because of all of us,
because whatever resources come to us we spit back, we share back with the world and so
we followed that bliss. I've met these people; I've seen the pictures of the kids being driven
away. There's not a product in the world that I would wanna buy more than seeing the face
of that child who's driving away, free, for the first time since he was three years old
and captured. So I follow that. So I encourage you to follow that. Whatever makes your heart
open and expand and feel, you'll feel a tear and a smile, you know, it's not just oh the
joy we freed a child, it's the tear that others may be suffering and how do I do what I can
to connect?
>>female #1: My name's Vina, it was a great [inaudible] and thanks for coming. Um, I just
want, I actually have a lot of questions but [inaudible] off the question that was just
asked, in my day to day life I wonder at what point do I stop giving and I hope I'm not
repeating the same question but [inaudible] on the other side that it's not as appreciated
or valued or even acknowledged, somewhere in me it burns.
>>Tom Shadyac: What burns, that you're not acknowledged?
>> female #1: It burns that I'm able to, I want to remove the boundary of this is mine
and [inaudible] and I'm able to step outside of the boundary and [inaudible] and there's
not even an eye blinking at that thought, right, like no need for thanks, no need for
re, re, coming back with the same action but at least just the thought that, "Oh, she did
this" [inaudible] and I continue to do what I do but I question myself like I should not
feel this way, I'm not gonna have the thankfulness or the thoughtfulness and that's okay, but
intrinsically do you believe it's a human behavior that when on the other side it's
not appreciated or acknowledged and is that okay?
>>Tom Shadyac: Well, I think that there's something that's actually natural because
what I really think your reaching for is you don't necessarily want to be thanked, I don't
think it's that you wanna be, correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't want someone to go,
"Oh, you're such a wonderful person!" You wanna know that the gift, the giving reached
it source. To see the child's eyes light up, he didn't need to thank me, the thanks was
in the eyes. I think that's what you're reaching for that there is some understanding that
this moment has had a connection.
>>female #1: That's right. At a child, it's different because the other end is not able
to do it on their own so you're doing it but in cases where it's colleagues or friends
or roommates or spouses, you, they are equally capable of giving back. But at the same time
you see that they are not even thinking about it.
>>Tom Shadyac: Yes, well, this is a challenge for all of us. But we are called to continue
to be giving. You said you don't know when to stop giving, you don't ever stop giving.
Even when you're giving to yourself cause you need rest, you need perspective, you need
a moment, you never stop giving. It's all a gift and you don't give to change people.
That's what I think your tension may be. You give and then that roommate doesn't get it
or that parent doesn't get it. No, that's giving to change. You give, you share and
what gets in gets in. And you never know, you guys have this amazing thing where the
world, there's beams of light coming out wherever Google is being searched, I think that's gonna
be our human story that you have no idea what beams of light you sent out that you never
were aware of. How many people may have seen this film that I'm not aware of? How many
people may be touched by an act that you were not necessarily thanked for but you affected
somebody, you weren't aware it got in, and they effected somebody else? That's that beam
of light and I think they're happening all around us. So you give in faith. You give
because, as Aristotle said, "Follow the good"
>>female #2: Hi, my name is Lynn and I loved the movie. I thought it was wonderful. I'm
super excited, I'm gonna spread it, it's gonna happen.
>>Tom Shadyac: Fantastic.
>>female #2: yeah.
>>Tom Shadyac: This is Google, spread the frickin' thing!
>>female #2: Yeah! [Laughter]
>>Tom Shadyac: Can we not spread it?
>>female #2: Absolutely.
>>Tom Shadyac: All the proceeds are going to causes so spread.
>>female #2: What I thought was most interesting about it was it's not like the concept of
loving people and having that, that's not new. That's been around, everyone's talked
about that before, what I think is new and interesting is the way that you're talking
about it and the communication and the language, the narrative that you're using to describe
that. And I think you are in a unique position as someone who created characters in a narrative
such as like, Ace Ventura, that maybe it's more approachable to maybe a more of a mass
audience because they're like, "Well, he thought Jim Carrey was funny, I think Jim Carrey is
funny." I don't know. [Laughter]
>>female #2: But what my question is, is more about when you use these different communication
styles I would certainly expect some people to completely dismiss a lot of what you might
say sometimes when they think it's too out there or almost hurt by the kind of hippy
dippy movement where they think, "Oh, he must be just hallucinating something rather than
actually speaking truth." So you use science, you use humor, you used film to communicate
this message and do you ever find yourself tailoring your message or tailoring your language
to audiences in order to make more of an impact, in order to really grab onto that, the main
concept which is love?
>>Tom Shadyac: Yes all the time. But I don't see that as a downside. Emerson said, "If
you find nothing but the commonality that the rain, it rains on both you and your adversary,
find that commonality." So I need to find out what it is that grabs you. I'm an entertainer,
right? I knew when we did "Bruce Almighty", a lot of ideas about spirituality, prayer,
the energy we put out, love, but I knew that if it wasn't insanely funny nobody would see
it. So I know that humor is hardwired in us, it's a trait that's evolved so I like to reach
into that trait. It's, you know what a belly laugh is? It literally makes you vulnerable
because you get hit in the gut. When you get hit in the gut you get vulnerable and then
you can drop a seed. So I do it all the time. We're, Harold and I, are pitching a talk show
to MTV, I've been with Oprah for a long time but I think we may not be on the Oprah Winfrey
Network and we may actually go on MTV, they wanna do talk now. So the conversation is
now exactly what you said. How do ideas like this get in to a youth culture that's addicted
to the Jersey Shore? To Teen Mom 2? And we find the commonality and then we get in. So
we make them laugh, we do something that's visually exciting to them. But we say there's
a principle behind this, guys, there's a reason that we put this on. You see that silly stunt
you love in "Jackass" that made you go, "Oooh!" That's actually your vagus nerves firing because
you are hardwired to connect to someone. You actually felt that kick in the nuts. You felt
it in your own and if you don't have them, you felt it somewhere down there.
[Laughter] >>Tom Shadyac: So we can use that to connect
and say that there's a larger story that you're not being taught, that you are connected,
that you're not to be separate but it's in your biology. So we'll, you're very perceptive.
Join us on our talk show, please. How we doing on the time, Harold, we good? A couple more
minutes and we're done and then you're back to, it's been, what? 45 minutes since you've
eaten? [Laughter]
>>Tom Shadyac: I mean my goodness. [Sigh]
>>Tom Shadyac: By the way, so smart, there's so many things so smart at this company it
just is, I encourage you to expand that wisdom. Expand it. It's so smart when you look at
the food and you're saying like eat different, rotate your diet and eat organic and you were
saying, Cliff, how you're actually going to places now and asking them to use organic
products and it's fantastic.
>>female #3: Hey, hi, um, my name is Clarissa, how are you doing today? Thanks so much for
>>Tom Shadyac: Thank you very much, Clarissa, I'm doing very well, how are you? Take care,
bye, bye then. [Laughter]
>>female #3: Sorry about that. My question is what do you think the tipping point is
to effect change on a large scale level and if we look at food as an example, you know,
there's a huge organic movement here in California but, you know, if I wanna eat an organic mango
it's gonna cost 5 dollars or if I wanna help someone, it's gonna cost me 5 dollars to give,
to buy an organic mango and give it to somebody. And what do we do to counter other external
forces of the use of pesticides and different farming practices that are not organic and
related to this also is, you know, maybe this is a function of me being from New York, I
have a fear of if I help someone that I don't know I might get robbed or killed or raped
or what do I do to, as an individual, to counter these external and internal forces, if this
makes sense?
>>Tom Shadyac: Wow
[Laughter] >>Tom Shadyac: Jeez Where am I? At Google?
First of all let me answer you, there's a couple questions in there and I'm tempted
to give the shortest answer that I can give. You said what is the tipping point for these
changes and I think the tipping point is you. You, very specifically, you, you. Do you know
what I mean by that? Yes, so you wanna eat more organic so you can't go somewhere and
get a reasonably priced organic smoothie or apple from the store, what does a person do
when they're faced with that? They can blog about it, talk about it, talk to the produce
manager, look online, Google where can I find something and when enough of you do that a
revolution happens. We all know the word love is buried inside revolution but you have to
turn it around. So when you do that and then you add, and you and I, Egypt happens. You
already have the recipe here. You've cooked it. You've helped the world in revolution.
Look at the principle and be the principle. I don't even know what your second question
was. I forgot. [Laughter]
>>Tom Shadyac: I know it was something but that, there's enough to chew on there.
>>Presenter: So we have time for one final question.
>>Tom Shadyac: We have time for one final question.
>>female #4: And I win that privilege. I'm Jennifer.
>>Tom Shadyac: Hi Jennifer.
>>female #4: I wanted to make a couple comments about the film. First of all I thought the
little pictogram about the Indian village and the hunter was so, just amazing. I mean,
it was just very simple but something that we could show to elementary school kids, just
amazing. And it's something people can walk away with and really stick in your gut in
terms of understanding that kind of idea.
>>Tom Shadyac: Before you go on can I ask you about that?
>>female #4: Sure.
>>Tom Shadyac: So, does everyone remember what she's talking about? In the movie there's
a hunter that said, "Wait a second, I'm the best hunter." Do you see how I am also that
hunter? Do you see how many of us are also that hunter? I'm the best comedy director,
like of the '90s anyway, quote, unquote, cause of the grosses. I deserve more. Okay, I wanna
make sure that it's relatable because that really wasn't a tribe about a native culture
that was a tribe about us and me. Okay.
>>female #4: And that's why I said elementary school kids should watch that. My second comment
about the film was how you in there interspersed commentary about economy and how we've really
kind of taken the idea of using economy to serve the greater good to now it becoming
some, you know, money play and people fighting to be on top which kind of connects to that
tribe example. My question to you is, so given your success in Hollywood and how that has
really kind of given you this opportunity to spread this word about love and sharing
and all these great things, what's your philosophy about Hollywood and how do you balance that
very fine line because it sounds like you're still somewhat involved in media and talking
about the MTV thing, how do you get that balance right so that you're adding value and bringing
good media to the world but also not getting sucked kind of into that glitzy, money, Hollywood
>>Tom Shadyac: Well, I happen to love my friends in Hollywood even though they're crazy. I
love them and I'm in dialogue with them and I don't try to change them. Many have responded
to this film. I don't mind naming names; Courtney Cox is a dear friend, flipped over the movie.
Brian Grazer is not producing the Academy Awards, he's Ron Howard's partner, flipped
over the movie. And they're just like you and I. They're artists, they're creators,
they were raised in the same culture I'm raised in and something got stirred up. So I just
dialogue with them and live and don't say, "Why do you live in this big house?" Some
people think I think, "Well, you shouldn't live in that big house, that's what the movie's
about!" No it's not. It's what's true for you. What does your heart tell you? There
may be artistry, community, something about the place where you're living, I was a single
guy, I didn't need what I need, what I had and I moved from it. What's true for you?
So I judge none of them. I share with all of them. And as far as what I wanna put out
I'm only gonna put out what I wanna put out. And if that means starvation, I will starve.
I would much rather feed my soul than my body. My body's had enough. I'll feed the soul.
So I'm simply gonna put out what I, everybody thinks I'm nuts, I mean, I was the first one
to move into a quote, unquote, trailer park, this is an expensive trailer park, I wanna
be very clear because the headlines are "Moves to trailer park" if you came to where we lived
you'd go, "Jeez, I'd live here." It's beautiful but it was out of the paradigm, right? I was
looking at 20 million dollar homes and these were 1 and under 1 to 2 hundred thousand,
what? Is he crazy? You don't even own the land and you have to live with normal people.
[Laughter] >>Tom Shadyac: Or it's retired police officers
and teachers, what? That's why we put up walls and fences to not see them, right? And I found
such beauty there that many of my friends in show business, there's a an agent there,
a huge director who I won't name, has moved in. We have a community of 6 or 8 families
that have moved in because they see the beauty of what this is. So I just continue to live
what, to me, as I said to you, feels expansive. And so I encourage all of you, I think you're
all here for a reason besides a nap. I saw the napping pods; you don't have to come here
to nap. I think you're here for a reason. So whatever this film, however it touched
you and moved you, I hope it at least has opened you up to the idea that maybe there's
more conversation to be had at Google to how Google can actually break down whatever walls,
the bubble, we've created here or whatever bubble exists and spread this. Again, not
just the information but I kept digging into Cliff, what's the philosophy? And your founders
have so, they're onto something. And I think we just need to look in every drawer and say,
"Ah, is it in that drawer? Is it in that drawer? Wait a second, here's a drawer that doesn't
look like it's in. How do we get it in there?" You guys are a glimpse at our future. You're
a glimpse at our future but while we sit on the cushion of advantage let's not fall asleep,
right? Let's always be looking to see how can we expand this so that others can share
in the bounty? Cause there's absolutely, Gandhi said it, so many of our leaders, there's plenty
for the need, there's not enough for the greed.
>>Presenter: On that note, Tom, thank you very much for speaking at Google and for showing
us what's right in the world.
>>Tom Shadyac: Thank you, brother. Thank you, Cliff. Thanks for having us.